[00:33:10] 10VisualEditor, 10Analytics, 06Editing-Analysis, 06Performance-Team, 07Graphite: Statsv down, affects metrics from beacon/statsv (e.g. VisualEditor, mw-js-deprecate) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141054#2485441 (10ori) Odd: ``` $ service statsv status ● statsv.service - statsv Loaded: loaded (... [08:27:13] 10VisualEditor, 10Analytics, 06Editing-Analysis, 06Performance-Team, 07Graphite: Statsv down, affects metrics from beacon/statsv (e.g. VisualEditor, mw-js-deprecate) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141054#2485441 (10fgiunchedi) the dns failures were likely due to network maintenance, at some point w... [11:09:43] (03PS10) 10Esanders: Rewrite TOCWidget based on Linker::generateTOC [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/297693 [11:13:38] (03PS33) 10Esanders: [WIP/POC/POS] Wikitext surface [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479) [11:17:26] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP/POC/POS] Wikitext surface [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479) (owner: 10Esanders) [11:17:59] 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs-UI, 13Patch-For-Review: OOjs UI: Responsive VE toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92315#2486572 (10Esanders) >>! In T92315#1532095, @Esanders wrote: > "⁋/P/Para", "H1", ..., "H6", "Quote", "Pre", but I don't know about localisation Actually H1-H6 won't work as we call them "... [12:56:34] (03PS34) 10Esanders: [WIP/POC/POS] Wikitext surface [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479) [13:01:47] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP/POC/POS] Wikitext surface [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479) (owner: 10Esanders) [14:29:55] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation-CXserver, 06Operations, and 4 others: Decom legacy ex-parsoidcache cxserver, citoid, and restbase service hostnames - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133001#2487147 (10BBlack) Re the `rest.wikimedia.org`: we effectively shut off service back in April ( http... [14:57:26] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation-CXserver, 06Operations, and 4 others: Decom legacy ex-parsoidcache cxserver, citoid, and restbase service hostnames - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133001#2487284 (10mobrovac) Hm, I can see 40k log entries for this domain in the logs for requests coming f... [15:21:23] (03PS4) 10Zfilipin: WIP Run language screenshots from Jenkins [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/299159 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139613) [15:29:45] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation-CXserver, 06Operations, and 4 others: Decom legacy ex-parsoidcache cxserver, citoid, and restbase service hostnames - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133001#2487399 (10BBlack) Sounds good to me, you want to do it, or me, or @gwicke since he sent the first one? [15:34:02] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation-CXserver, 06Operations, and 4 others: Decom legacy ex-parsoidcache cxserver, citoid, and restbase service hostnames - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133001#2487410 (10mobrovac) >>! In T133001#2487399, @BBlack wrote: > Sounds good to me, you want to do it,... [15:35:59] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation-CXserver, 06Operations, and 4 others: Decom legacy ex-parsoidcache cxserver, citoid, and restbase service hostnames - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133001#2487415 (10GWicke) Okay, I'll send out an announcement today. Lets say we'll switch it off by Septem... [15:37:39] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation-CXserver, 06Operations, and 4 others: Decom legacy ex-parsoidcache cxserver, citoid, and restbase service hostnames - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133001#2487421 (10mobrovac) >>! In T133001#2487415, @GWicke wrote: > Okay, I'll send out an announcement to... [16:17:50] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation-CXserver, 06Operations, and 4 others: Decom legacy ex-parsoidcache cxserver, citoid, and restbase service hostnames - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133001#2487642 (10BBlack) [16:18:06] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation-CXserver, 06Operations, and 4 others: Decom legacy ex-parsoidcache cxserver, citoid, and restbase service hostnames - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133001#2216638 (10BBlack) thanks! [17:30:59] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Ensure document slices which consist of content nodes get wrapped [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/300578 [19:03:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Beta-Feature, 07Epic: Provide a Beta Feature of a modern wikitext editor integrated into the visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141149#2488569 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:03:48] 10VisualEditor, 05Design Research and product team collaboration, 07Epic: Design Research evaluates new Wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141068#2488585 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:04:42] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 13Patch-For-Review: Link with annotations gets split on re-render - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140538#2488586 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03High a:03dchan [19:05:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Design, 13Patch-For-Review: Category suggestions too narrow / not usable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139189#2488592 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Low [19:06:44] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 13Patch-For-Review, 07User-notice: Add support for actual format strings to TemplateData's "format" parameter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138492#2488596 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:03cscott [19:10:47] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Regression: [Regression pre-wmf.8] Cite menu -> Citoid button doesn't happen when content language and user language differ or on uselang=XXX any more - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138855#2488599 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Resol... [19:10:57] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Regression: [Regression pre-wmf.8] Cite menu -> Citoid button doesn't happen when content language and user language differ or on uselang=XXX any more - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138855#2488601 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open... [20:07:37] 10VisualEditor, 06Operations, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Performance: fix chromium-browser startup script on osmium (was: fix puppet run on osmium ) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141023#2488698 (10Dzahn) [20:33:00] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Intermittent corruptions on saves, likely related to data-parsoid mis-matches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134593#2488722 (10AlexMonk-WMF) a:05AlexMonk-WMF>03None >>! In T134593#2476426, @GWicke wrote: > @AlexMonk-WMF, is there any chance that VE [...] would... [20:40:00] James_F: what is "in-editor help"? [20:40:54] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Design, 07Epic, 13Patch-For-Review: Provide a modern wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479#2488751 (10Esanders) [20:41:34] edsanders: There's "how to do wikitext" help built into the WikiEditor's toolbar (after special characters, before switch). [20:42:25] does the toolbar make that redundant? [20:42:34] also why have you listed and
tools? [20:45:30] edsanders: They're in the toolbar. We need to decide if we can justify not having them. Also I thought I'd struck them through as "not doing". [20:45:44] edsanders: Note that the big/small ones have a patch from me outstanding for two years. ;-P [20:46:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Design, 07Epic, 13Patch-For-Review: Provide a modern wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479#2488764 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:47:19] I mean VE doesn't have big/small - I'm not sure they're particularly useful [20:47:27] (nowiki/br) [20:47:31] They're used quite often. [20:47:38] For nowiki and br I agree, we shouldn't do them. [20:49:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 13Patch-For-Review: Tool to set/unset text as small - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53614#2488770 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:49:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 13Patch-For-Review: VisualEditor: Tool to set/unset text as big - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53613#2488771 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:49:17] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Design, 07Epic, 13Patch-For-Review: Provide a modern wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479#2488769 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [21:04:24] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Intermittent corruptions on saves, likely related to data-parsoid mis-matches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134593#2488789 (10GWicke) One thing I did recently notice is that sometimes quick repeat edits (save, then hit the edit tab again) in VE end up loading an... [21:51:23] 10VisualEditor, 05Design Research and product team collaboration: Develop usability testing template for DR testing of Wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141069#2488847 (10Capt_Swing) @JAufrecht is this task the same as T140196? I created that task based on your notes from our KIT a few weeks... [22:19:53] 10VisualEditor, 05Design Research and product team collaboration: Develop usability testing template for DR testing of Wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141069#2488965 (10JAufrecht) I think T140196 a specific instance, whereas T141069 is a broader set of work.