[04:14:09] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Intermittent corruptions on saves, likely related to data-parsoid mis-matches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134593#2517900 (10GWicke) Since the VE changes, there have been no new reports on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback, which is e...
[05:25:55] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10GlobalUserPage, 10MediaWiki-extensions-EducationProgram: VisualEditor redlink detection should obey Title::isAlwaysKnown (so that links to Special pages, EducationProgram pages and GlobalUserPages render correctly) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72123#2517928...
[05:25:56] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Direct link to a non-extant local file ([[:File:Foo]]) is red even if there is an extant file in a remote repo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65355#2517930 (10Krinkle)
[05:28:51] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Direct link to a non-extant local file ([[:File:Foo]]) is red even if there is an extant file in a remote repo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65355#2517931 (10Krinkle) >>! In T65355#2517538, @Quiddity wrote: > These are probably...
[05:59:33] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Consider multi line formula editing with Math inspector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141950#2517512 (10Krinkle) Hi. Thanks for the report.  The LaTE
[07:09:21] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10GlobalUserPage, 10MediaWiki-extensions-EducationProgram: VisualEditor redlink detection should obey Title::isAlwaysKnown (so that links to Special pages, EducationProgram pages and GlobalUserPages render correctly) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72123#726825...
[07:14:14] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Check if links on load are 'known' rather than 'exist' locally - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104604#1421989 (10Legoktm) I don't think this works - or it has regressed since. Visiting <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateData?veaction=edit> I s...
[10:04:49] <wikibugs>	 10Cite, 06Wikisource: Within <ref> the <noinclude> and <includeonly> tags are ignored - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141971#2518385 (10Billinghurst)
[10:05:29] <wikibugs>	 10Cite, 06Wikisource: Within <ref> the <noinclude> and <includeonly> tags are ignored, problematic when transcluded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141971#2518397 (10Billinghurst)
[11:25:36] <wikibugs>	 10Cite, 06Wikisource: Within <ref> the <noinclude> and <includeonly> tags are ignored, problematic when transcluded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141971#2518385 (10Izno) This seems like a pathological edge case and can't personally understand what the desire is there.
[12:03:29] <wikibugs>	 10Cite, 06Wikisource: Within <ref> the <noinclude> and <includeonly> tags are ignored, problematic when transcluded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141971#2518690 (10Billinghurst) Definitely an edge case, but it is one that should be queued for Cite addressing as we have numbers of situations of mediawiki...
[13:53:30] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Table not rendering how it has been designed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141984#2518868 (10Trizek-WMF)
[14:00:59] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Table not rendering how it has been designed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141984#2518868 (10matmarex) Diff of the VE edit: https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liste_des_additifs_alimentaires&diff=prev&oldid=128348925  Looks like a newline is missing before the `|---` (new table row...
[14:08:18] <wikibugs>	 10Cite, 06Wikisource: Within <ref> the <noinclude> and <includeonly> tags are ignored, problematic when transcluded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141971#2518913 (10Izno) >>! In T141971#2518690, @Billinghurst wrote: > Definitely an edge case, but it is one that should be queued for Cite addressing as we...
[15:13:17] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep-2016): Facilitate deployment of the visual editor at Arabic script wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141994#2519198 (10Elitre)
[15:13:55] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep-2016): Facilitate deployment of the visual editor at Arabic script wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141994#2519219 (10Elitre)
[15:13:59] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 07User-notice: Enable VisualEditor by default for all users of all "phase 6" Wikipedias - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93387#2519218 (10Elitre)
[16:19:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10DLynch: [C: 032] Use more surface fragments in paste [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/300262 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140924) (owner: 10Esanders)
[16:21:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use more surface fragments in paste [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/300262 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140924) (owner: 10Esanders)
[16:26:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Use surface fragment in resizable node [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/300069 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140924) (owner: 10Esanders)
[16:39:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10DLynch: [C: 032] Use surface fragment in resizable node [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/300069 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140924) (owner: 10Esanders)
[16:41:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use surface fragment in resizable node [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/300069 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140924) (owner: 10Esanders)
[16:42:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update OOjs UI to v0.17.7 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302737 
[16:45:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Update OOjs UI to v0.17.7 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302737 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[16:45:37] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 07Technical-Debt: Use surface fragments instead of dm.Surface#change directly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140924#2519614 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[16:45:41] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 07Technical-Debt: Use surface fragments instead of dm.Surface#change directly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140924#2481131 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Anything left?
[16:49:27] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 07Technical-Debt: Use surface fragments instead of dm.Surface#change directly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140924#2519636 (10Jdforrester-WMF) FWICT, there's `ve.dm.MetaList#insertMeta` and `#removeMeta`, and a few in TableAction.
[16:54:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update OOjs UI to v0.17.7 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302737 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[17:25:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Add maintainIndices param to SurfaceFragment#getText [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302243 (owner: 10Esanders)
[17:25:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Make keepEmptyContentBranches an option of #sanitize and simplify usage [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302256 (owner: 10Esanders)
[17:27:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add maintainIndices param to SurfaceFragment#getText [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302243 (owner: 10Esanders)
[17:27:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Factor out creation of invisible 'icon' for overriding [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302407 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141861) (owner: 10Esanders)
[17:29:34] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07User-notice: Add inline labels to invisible template icons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141861#2519794 (10Catrope)
[17:30:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Factor out creation of invisible 'icon' for overriding [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302407 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141861) (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:02:01] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Phlogiston (Burnup-Support), 15User-JAufrecht: Tranche charts missing from VE report - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141793#2519913 (10JAufrecht) p:05Triage>03Normal
[18:32:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Mark context wrappers as wrappers [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/301850 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141639) (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:33:14] <James_F>	 Kemayo: Want to merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/141617/ ? :-)
[18:34:01] <Kemayo>	 James_F: Hm, give me a few minutes to read it over.
[18:40:10] <James_F>	 Kemayo: Thank you. :-)
[18:40:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 031] "Good to merge once Id842389d is pulled through" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302411 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141861) (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:49:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10DLynch: [C: 04-1] "Applying big or small by selecting text and then using the menu item throws this error: `ve.dm.TransactionProcessor.js:200 Uncaught Error:" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/141617 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53613) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[18:51:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (2567ca9) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302764 
[18:52:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jforrester: Show name of template for invisible templates [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302411 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141861) (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:52:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jforrester: build: Bump stylelint-related devDependencies to latest [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302609 
[18:54:28] <James_F>	 Kemayo: Oh dear. That's… different from when I last tested it. :-( I'll have a look at some point (or if you want you can adopt the patch ;-)).
[18:58:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] "Per Roan." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302411 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141861) (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:58:56] <James_F>	 Kemayo: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/302764/ would be nice to merge (but I'm distracting you from 'real' work).
[19:10:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10DLynch: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (2567ca9) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302764 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[19:11:59] <Kemayo>	 James_F: It's actually *possible* that it seemed to work when you tested it. It errors, but the annotation still applies when it's done by selecting text.
[19:12:13] <Kemayo>	 So if you didn't have the console open...
[19:13:53] <James_F>	 Kemayo: Ho-hum.
[19:14:56] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 07Tracking, 07User-notice: Enable VisualEditor by default for all users of all Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52000#2520241 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF)
[19:19:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (2567ca9) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302764 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[19:19:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Show name of template for invisible templates [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302411 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141861) (owner: 10Esanders)
[19:26:28] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07User-notice: Add inline labels to invisible template icons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141861#2520302 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved
[19:27:12] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Microsoft-Edge, 05WMF-deploy-2016-08-09_(1.28.0-wmf.14): Cannot cut or copy from VisualEditor using Microsoft Edge - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141611#2520305 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved
[19:27:22] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07User-notice, 05WMF-deploy-2016-08-09_(1.28.0-wmf.14): Add inline labels to invisible template icons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141861#2514791 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:31:28] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 07Tracking, 07User-notice: Enable VisualEditor by default for all users of all Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52000#2520332 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:48:03] <legoktm>	 James_F: should https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104604#2518083 be re-opened or I file a new ticket?
[19:49:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10DLynch: Provide tools to make text bigger or smaller [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/141617 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53613) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[19:52:55] <Kemayo>	 James_F: I rewrote the big/small patch a bit, so it doesn't need to add new annotation actions and surfacefragment methods. Rather, it can just behave exactly like subscript/superscript do.
[19:53:09] <James_F>	 Kemayo: Oh.
[19:53:22] <James_F>	 Kemayo: Does that handle nested annotations though?
[19:53:39] <James_F>	 Most of the complexity is dealing with <big><big>Foo</big></big>, ISTR.
[19:54:27] <James_F>	 (It's literally two years since I wrote the main code, though, so…)
[19:56:48] <Kemayo>	 No, nested sub/superscripts don't get allowed (even though they work in non-VE HTML like 2<sup>n<sup>3</sup></sup>, if you make them happen). Do we actually want <big>Big <big>bigger <big>biggest</big></big></big> to be facilitated?
[20:04:36] <Kemayo>	 James_F: I would note that the previous version of the patch doesn't seem to allow you to create nested <big>s anyway.
[20:05:09] <Kemayo>	 (This delay between messages brought to you by me trying to remember the syntax for specifying a specific patch number to git review.)
[20:08:15] <Kemayo>	 (For reference: `git review -d <changeid>,<patchnumber>`
[21:12:28] <James_F>	 Kemayo: Yeah. Multiple <big>s (more normally, multiple <small>s) are actually used from time to time on wiki (much, much more often than multiple <sup>s). And I'm unsurprised that my code didn't work. Maybe we could merge it as-is and make it able to handle multiples later?
[21:15:16] <Kemayo>	 James_F|Away: Seems like a workable plan.
[21:20:39] <Kemayo>	 The model treats nested <big>s applied via editing the HTML as multiple instances of the textStyle/big annotation, so I think the major change to your previous patch would just be having to make the commands not register as already-applied if the annotation is already present.
[21:22:58] <Kemayo>	 Hm, or combine big/small into a single annotation type (textStyle/sized?) which can have an attribute for how many levels up/down it's gone, and serializes into big/small/removing-itself depending on being positive/negative.
[23:21:23] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10WikiCite, 10Wikidata, and 3 others: [Story] Support for citoid in Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131661#2521150 (10czar) @BrillLyle Not sure what you mean by inter-operability with Wikidata or how it might relate to this ticket, but if you're looking for URL → wik...
[23:23:11] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10GlobalUserPage, 10MediaWiki-extensions-EducationProgram: VisualEditor redlink detection should obey Title::isAlwaysKnown (so that links to Special pages, EducationProgram pages and GlobalUserPages render correctly) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72123#726825...