[00:01:52] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 07Easy, 03Google-Code-In-2016: Show "we were unable to make citation for you" instead of offering completely empty template. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92428#2826087 (10Aklapper) Imported as https://codein.withgoogle.com/tasks/5709684757495808/ [00:16:46] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 07Easy, 03Google-Code-In-2016: Show "we were unable to make citation for you" instead of offering completely empty template. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92428#2826102 (10Mvolz) On second reading, this is really two distinct tasks (but still difficult for the same reasons.) [00:17:16] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 07Easy, 03Google-Code-In-2016: Show "we were unable to make citation for you" instead of offering completely empty template. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92428#2826105 (10Mvolz) [00:19:08] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 07Easy, 03Google-Code-In-2016: Show "we were unable to make citation for you" instead of offering completely empty template. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92428#1110478 (10Mvolz) If there's no matching map, we do already have an error for that (unable to make a citation for... [00:20:08] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 07Easy, 03Google-Code-In-2016: Show "we were unable to make citation for you" instead of offering completely empty template. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92428#2826109 (10Mvolz) [00:24:25] 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Score, 07Documentation, 03Google-Code-In-2016: Make a new section for musical scores in the user guide for VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117437#2826118 (10John_Broughton) Okay, I've registered. Am I supposed to create the ta... [01:41:53] 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Score, 07Documentation, 03Google-Code-In-2016: Make a new section for musical scores in the user guide for VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117437#2826171 (10Aklapper) @John_Broughton: Thank you! Imported as https://codein.with... [06:03:20] (03PS6) 10Divec: Rebase logic [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/322714 [06:31:05] (03PS7) 10Divec: Rebase logic [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/322714 [06:31:25] (03PS42) 10Divec: WIP Surface synchronizer (sockets) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/303572 (owner: 10Esanders) [06:54:38] (03PS25) 10Divec: [WIP] docserver [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/309812 (owner: 10Catrope) [10:25:13] 10VisualEditor: User getting HTTP 400 error with VE on frwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141226#2826549 (10Trizek-WMF) After a new feedback about an article shorter than others, I've been able to test some cases, to isolate a problematic bit of wikitext. You can trigger an error 400 when you are in a... [10:48:50] (03CR) 10Hashar: "recheck" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320829 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150435) (owner: 10Ryasmeen) [11:50:59] 10VisualEditor: User getting HTTP 400 error with VE on frwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141226#2826856 (10Trizek-WMF) Note: if I paste one of the examples I've found in VE mode of Flow, I have a clear warning concerning parsing : "Unable to transfer content: Error contacting the server for conversion... [12:01:20] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10MobileFrontend, 06Reading-Web-Backlog, and 5 others: Long overlays have gray backgrounds - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148794#2826882 (10ovasileva) 05Open>03Resolved tested and behaving as expected. resolving. [12:50:56] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 15User-Urbanecm: TemplateData: Normalisation should not assume paramOrder - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138200#2826985 (10Urbanecm) [12:56:28] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Credit the source of the ISBN data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145463#2826997 (10Mvolz) a:03Mvolz [12:57:20] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 07Epic, 15User-mobrovac: Add ISBN as look-up option to the citoid service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1084#2826999 (10Mvolz) >>! In T1084#2817172, @Elitre wrote: > Can this help mitigate T117165 somehow? Seems unrelated. [13:35:01] (03CR) 10Esanders: "well I've tagged a few reviewers. anyone?" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/322598 (owner: 10Esanders) [13:44:33] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 06Parsing-Team, 06Services, 07Technical-Debt: Restructure so that citoid can be run without Zotero - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93579#2827078 (10Mvolz) a:05Mvolz>03None [13:57:51] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Add ability to request base types in citoid, and offer use of both in extension for backwards compatibility until all templateData has been updated, and undo its use in extension, including use of templateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114515#2827103 (10Mvolz) [14:46:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery, 05WMF-deploy-2016-11-15_(1.29.0-wmf.3): Impossible to create a gallery on some wikis using VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150638#2827222 (10Trizek-WMF) Tried on [[ https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citadelle_du_Ch%C3%A2teau-d%27Ol%C3... [14:46:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery, 05WMF-deploy-2016-11-15_(1.29.0-wmf.3): Impossible to create a gallery on some wikis using VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150638#2827223 (10Trizek-WMF) 05Resolved>03Open [15:16:56] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 06Parsing-Team, 06Services, 07Technical-Debt: Restructure so that citoid can be run without Zotero - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93579#2827292 (10GWicke) [15:54:04] 10VisualEditor, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Notifications, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Tackling Chat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149661#2827360 (10Halfak) Some relevant links: * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Live_Chat_System * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Live_Chat_System/... [15:55:03] (03PS15) 10Zfilipin: WIP Selenium test for loading VisualEditor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320829 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150435) (owner: 10Ryasmeen) [16:05:19] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP Selenium test for loading VisualEditor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320829 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150435) (owner: 10Ryasmeen) [16:05:34] (03PS16) 10Zfilipin: WIP Selenium test for loading VisualEditor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320829 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150435) (owner: 10Ryasmeen) [16:11:19] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP Selenium test for loading VisualEditor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320829 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150435) (owner: 10Ryasmeen) [16:13:07] (03PS17) 10Zfilipin: WIP Selenium test for loading VisualEditor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320829 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150435) (owner: 10Ryasmeen) [16:39:47] 10VisualEditor, 07Browser-Tests, 13Patch-For-Review, 15User-zeljkofilipin: Selenium tests for VisualEditor in Node.js - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150435#2827475 (10zeljkofilipin) [16:45:33] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Search and replace should be able to operate on multiple lines in NWE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151671#2824241 (10Esanders) Given that we currently store lines in the model as wrapped paragraphs, this is not going to be trivial. [16:50:26] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Search and replace should be able to operate on multiple lines in NWE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151671#2827526 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Low [16:53:52] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Replace deprecated $.andSelf with $.addBack [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323529 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:54:23] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] "We should i18n-ise these at some point." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323535 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:55:05] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Add diffing to mobile SA demo [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323386 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:58:10] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Replace deprecated $.andSelf with $.addBack [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323529 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:59:44] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix labels on diff dialog [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323535 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:59:46] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add diffing to mobile SA demo [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323386 (owner: 10Esanders) [17:16:13] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery: VE Gallery editor adds a description called Undefined when editing some galleries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146190#2827588 (10Esanders) [17:37:10] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Handle missing pipes in Gallery syntax, and remove them when caption is empty [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323858 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146190) [17:38:08] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Clear preview when document is modified [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323859 [17:39:03] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 04-1] "awaiting response on PS4" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313605 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147067) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [17:46:04] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Analytics-EventLogging, 10ArchCom-RfC, and 10 others: RFC: Use YAML instead of JSON for structured on-wiki content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147158#2827766 (10MarkTraceur) I stumbled over this while looking at the Multimedia board, and apart from being baffled w... [17:53:59] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid: Update extension node renderings without building XML/wikitext in the client - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151720#2827786 (10Esanders) [17:54:03] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery: Update gallery dialog to work with Parsoid's native implementation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150621#2827785 (10Esanders) [17:56:22] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid: Update extension node renderings without building XML/wikitext in the client - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151720#2827791 (10Esanders) This is blocking our new gallery implementation as we will want to get an updated rendering of the gallery from Pa... [18:05:06] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, and 2 others: [Regression] Users can no longer edit reference features of citations to e.g. change their group or add {{openaccess}} or {{deadlink}} - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133255#2827821 (10Quiddity) [18:11:09] (03CR) 10Divec: "I'm working on these, including making the test harness a bit more reliable" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320068 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149753) (owner: 10Esanders) [18:13:38] 10VisualEditor, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-11-29_(1.29.0-wmf.4): Opening help dialog in Flow VE (CTRL+?) throws an exception - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151096#2827864 (10Etonkovidova) Checked the fix in betalabs. [18:13:46] (03CR) 10DLynch: "@divec: as a separate patch, or did you want to fold it into this?" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320068 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149753) (owner: 10Esanders) [18:16:58] (03CR) 10Esanders: "Oh yes, I have my brain in upside down." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/305563 (owner: 10Divec) [18:18:22] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] ve.dm.Change class with rebase operations [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/305563 (owner: 10Divec) [18:20:18] (03CR) 10Jforrester: Rebase logic (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/322714 (owner: 10Divec) [18:24:54] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: ve.dm.Change class with rebase operations [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/305563 (owner: 10Divec) [18:29:15] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 04-1] Rebase logic (032 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/322714 (owner: 10Divec) [18:31:46] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid: Update extension node renderings without building XML/wikitext in the client - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151720#2825464 (10ssastry) I don't understand this last bit. We are providing specialized HTML (with data-mw, etc.) is that you can provided c... [19:27:57] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 15User-Urbanecm: TemplateData: Normalisation should not assume paramOrder - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138200#2828322 (10Urbanecm) Any progress on it? This is a high priority problem but last comment was made before almost half a year! [19:32:13] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid: Update extension node renderings without building XML/wikitext in the client - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151720#2828343 (10Esanders) For example we have a "show filenames" checkbox. How do you propose we update our view once that property is added... [19:38:17] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid: Update extension node renderings without building XML/wikitext in the client - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151720#2825464 (10Arlolra) Sending back `
` wouldn't be sufficient though, b... [19:42:03] (03PS4) 10Jforrester: build: Load OOjs from npm as a dependency, not from lib/ [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323353 (owner: 10Divec) [19:42:05] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: build: Load jQuery from npm as a dependency, not from lib/ [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323884 [19:42:07] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: build: Load OOjs UI from npm as a dependency, not from lib/ [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323885 [19:48:47] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] build: Load OOjs from npm as a dependency, not from lib/ [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323353 (owner: 10Divec) [19:50:26] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] build: Load OOjs UI from npm as a dependency, not from lib/ [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323885 (owner: 10Jforrester) [19:51:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid: Update extension node renderings without building XML/wikitext in the client - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151720#2828423 (10ssastry) >>! In T151720#2828343, @Esanders wrote: > For example we have a "show filenames" checkbox. How do you propose we u... [20:11:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid: Update extension node renderings without building XML/wikitext in the client - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151720#2825464 (10cscott) I think an html2html mechanism would work fine for the general case, although I also support subbu's contention that... [20:37:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid: Update extension node renderings without building XML/wikitext in the client - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151720#2828611 (10ssastry) **Other related thoughts** It would also be helpful to think of the general problem of content-model constraints.... [20:56:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid: Update extension node renderings without building XML/wikitext in the client - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151720#2828775 (10Esanders) I'm specifically talking about doing a live mid-edit update of the view HTML. The new spec for galleries is view a... [20:57:22] (03CR) 10Hashar: "recheck" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323884 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:04:15] (03CR) 10Hashar: "recheck" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323353 (owner: 10Divec) [21:04:24] (03CR) 10Hashar: "recheck" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323885 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:09:35] 10VisualEditor, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Notifications, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Tackling Chat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149661#2828855 (10Capt_Swing) @Halfak what about a chatbot? @MelodyKramer helped build one for new employee onboarding at at previous employer: htt... [21:16:16] edsanders: You OK with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/323885/ and its parents? If so, want to merge them? [21:20:04] 10VisualEditor, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Notifications, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Tackling Chat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149661#2828911 (10Halfak) https://www.mattermost.org/ has been around for a while. In the work I did around Live Chat, I looked into XMPP (protoco... [21:32:33] James_F: last thing I saw was me -1ing and David suggesting we abandon [21:33:26] edsanders: This is the pattern we have for e.g. OOUI already, though. [21:34:03] edsanders: If we want to do an especially-packed npm release of VE or whatever, we can, but… [21:49:46] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Removing _ (underscore) from link didn't work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151822#2829052 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) [22:33:00] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: DebugBar: Remove hard-coded i18n [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323977 [23:11:35] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (c17e71e) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323984