[00:55:19] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: 2017 Wikitext Editor: Tweak Beta Feature i18n to be less expansive [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324001 [01:02:33] 10VisualEditor, 10Flow, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), 07Regression, 05WMF-deploy-2016-11-29_(1.29.0-wmf.4): [betalabs-regression] Flow board - switching to VE produces "TypeError: this.parseHtml is not a function" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151233#2829549 (10Jdforres... [01:04:14] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery, 07Design: "Add new image" button in gallery is difficult to discover after adding 4/5 images, since the button floats down as the list grows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151506#2829551 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Normal P... [01:05:44] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery: Gallery dialog's search results aspect ratio is different to the media dialog's search results - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151509#2829556 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Low [07:10:37] (03PS1) 10Divec: Hijack EventSequencer timeouts in unit testing [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324028 [07:19:32] (03PS1) 10Divec: Focusable cursor tests: place cursor in cursorHolders [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324029 [07:24:01] (03PS8) 10Divec: Factor out active node functionality from SectionNode for captions [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320068 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149753) (owner: 10Esanders) [08:26:53] (03CR) 10Divec: "@DLynch: I've rebased onto the test harness improvements." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320068 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149753) (owner: 10Esanders) [09:17:47] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor hardly usable for talk and discussion pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151854#2829968 (10JAnD) [09:23:45] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10Wikidata, 03Wikidata-Sprint-2016-11-15: [Task] Handle title language properly as part of citoid support for Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141856#2829982 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [10:23:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 06Multimedia, 10TimedMediaHandler: After adding a video using VE and save the page, the Play button is in the middle of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150978#2803380 (10TheDJ) Probably. And I suspect that this only happens if there already is another... [11:03:45] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Hijack EventSequencer timeouts in unit testing [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324028 (owner: 10Divec) [11:03:47] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Focusable cursor tests: place cursor in cursorHolders [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324029 (owner: 10Divec) [11:05:30] 10VisualEditor, 10ArchCom-RfC, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto, 10Research-and-Data-VisualEditor , and 3 others: [RFC] Visual Templates: Authoring templates with Visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114454#2830255 (10Qgil) This proposal hasn't registered much interest or renewed discussion i... [11:09:09] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Hijack EventSequencer timeouts in unit testing [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324028 (owner: 10Divec) [11:09:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Focusable cursor tests: place cursor in cursorHolders [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324029 (owner: 10Divec) [11:09:47] 10VisualEditor, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 06Editing-Department, 10Editing-UX-Research, and 4 others: Next Steps for Real Time Collaboration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149663#2830279 (10Qgil) This proposal seems to have enough interests, but there is no discussion so far. I am moving it to "on... [11:11:15] (03CR) 10Esanders: "I tested a simple true/false/true CE nested in Firefox using CE-sandbox and it seems to capture the cursor correctly - so must be somethin" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320068 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149753) (owner: 10Esanders) [11:28:46] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 07Design, 07I18n, and 3 others: reconsider terminology about template parameters in VisualEditor and ContentTranslation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151865#2830335 (10Amire80) [12:43:12] 10VisualEditor, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Notifications, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Tackling Chat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149661#2830457 (10Qgil) Since this proposal doesn't fit in any main topic and there are other proposals that have received more support, maybe it w... [16:20:32] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Wait until search panel is shown before setting a search query [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324223 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151659) [16:28:07] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Wait until search panel is shown before setting a search query [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324223 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151659) (owner: 10Esanders) [17:19:46] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Use upstream media search widget from core [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324232 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140166) [17:31:42] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Removing _ (underscore) from link didn't work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151822#2829052 (10DLynch) The underscores get added back in when you do the add-a-blank-line step. Only when adding one above the link, not below. [18:11:42] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] "I like it." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324001 (owner: 10Jforrester) [18:29:47] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: 2017 Wikitext Editor: Tweak Beta Feature i18n to be less expansive [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324001 (owner: 10Jforrester) [19:00:48] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] [BREAKING CHANGE] Allow target widgets to be re-used [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/322598 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:03:55] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 07Design, 07I18n, and 4 others: reconsider terminology about template parameters in VisualEditor and ContentTranslation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151865#2832078 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) +1 for making everything match. However, the term //pa... [19:05:05] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BREAKING CHANGE] Allow target widgets to be re-used [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/322598 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:05:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Category, 07Epic: Let users choose a visual or wikitext diff in the review-your-changes tab - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143350#2832100 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:05:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Accessibility, 05WMF-deploy-2016-12-06_(1.29.0-wmf.5): Consider using semantic elements in addition to colours for visual diffs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149702#2832097 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved >>! In T149702#2822244, @Esanders wrote:... [19:05:51] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 07Design, 05WMF-deploy-2016-12-06_(1.29.0-wmf.5): Have the visual diff system display tree node moves more clearly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151405#2832106 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [Re-tagging as the merge commit didn't make wmf.4.] [19:06:19] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (0879bb2) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323984 [19:06:43] edsanders: Can you merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/323984/ so I can do the pull-through cleanly? [19:13:59] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: Wait until search panel is shown before setting a search query [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324223 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151659) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:14:30] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Wait until search panel is shown before setting a search query [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324223 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151659) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:15:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery: In Gallery, the order of images in search result section changes randomly while trying to re-edit it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151659#2832151 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved p:05Triage>03Normal a:03Esanders [19:16:09] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Accessibility, 05WMF-deploy-2016-12-06_(1.29.0-wmf.5): Consider using semantic elements in addition to colours for visual diffs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149702#2832165 (10Pginer-WMF) >>! In T149702#2832097, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: >>>! In T149702#2822... [19:16:49] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Handle missing pipes in Gallery syntax, and remove them when caption is empty [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323858 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146190) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:17:08] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery: VE Gallery editor adds a description called Undefined when editing some galleries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146190#2832169 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Esanders [19:22:13] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 07Design, 07I18n, and 4 others: reconsider terminology about template parameters in VisualEditor and ContentTranslation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151865#2832187 (10Pginer-WMF) Along the lines of what @Whatamidoing-WMF mentioned, I found... [19:24:48] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Wait until search panel is shown before setting a search query [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324223 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151659) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:24:57] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Clear preview when document is modified [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323859 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:27:53] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Handle missing pipes in Gallery syntax, and remove them when caption is empty [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323858 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146190) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:39:13] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (0879bb2) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323984 (owner: 10Jforrester) [19:48:43] (03PS4) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (9625e8f) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/322599 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:51:28] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (0879bb2) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/323984 (owner: 10Jforrester) [19:52:02] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Use upstream media search widget from core [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324232 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140166) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:52:50] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 06Multimedia, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Technical-Debt: Upstream VisualEditor's media search tool into mw.widgets so other extensions/core can use it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140166#2832314 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Esanders [20:04:46] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use upstream media search widget from core [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324232 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140166) (owner: 10Esanders) [20:06:27] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor hardly usable for talk and discussion pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151854#2832410 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03declined From https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:VisualEditor/FAQ: > **Will the visual editor be enabled on talk pages?** > ​No. This question comes up q... [20:08:43] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: i18n: Kill last two uses of 'parameter' in lieu of 'field' [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/324256 [20:11:19] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 07Design, and 5 others: reconsider terminology about template parameters in VisualEditor and ContentTranslation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151865#2832446 (10Jdforrester-WMF) In 2012 or 2013 we changed VE to use "field" eve... [20:11:48] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Accessibility, 05WMF-deploy-2016-12-06_(1.29.0-wmf.5): Consider using semantic elements in addition to colours for visual diffs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149702#2832463 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) I'm not aware of any discussions on wiki or involving the WMF,... [20:13:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media: Drag-and-drop of image from the file page into VisualEditor should insert a thumbnail, not an external link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151647#2832469 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Normal Hmm, this sounds like a regress... [20:13:45] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Copy-paste of wikitext from "Use this file" on Commons into VisualEditor does not work when the filename is too long because it's limited for performance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151646#2832480 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>0... [20:14:31] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Copy-paste of wikitext from "Use this file" on Commons into VisualEditor does not work when the filename is too long because it's limited for performance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151646#2823597 (10Jdforrester-WMF) We could bump t... [20:15:18] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: insertContent for MWWikitextSurfaceFragment has a bit unexpected behavior with multi-line strings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151613#2832486 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Low [20:15:42] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown: Visual Editor unable to create Categories in Spanish Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151592#2832494 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03stalled [20:21:01] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Removing _ (underscore) from link didn't work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151822#2832526 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Low Content attribute (de)normalisation? [20:21:35] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown: Visual Editor unable to create Categories in Spanish Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151592#2832531 (10ProtoplasmaKid) Sorry for the delay. 1. Opening EV everything is normal editing EV. 2. Using the button to Add Categories you add some of them,... [20:24:14] 10VisualEditor: Nowiki added to links that use article title plus a suffix - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151628#2832547 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Invalid No. If you write the equivalent of `[[neutron]]s` in VE, that is the wikitext you get from Parsoid. Specifically, that is `neu... [20:25:09] 10Cite, 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 15User-Josve05a: When converting bare link by pressing convert and then back and filling it out manually, it will create a second footnote - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151692#2832550 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Normal [20:25:42] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 06Language-Team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, and 4 others: Amazing Article Annotations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149667#2832554 (10cscott) >>! In T149667#2795750, @Psychoslave wrote: > Ok, T147896 seems a subproject for this one, doesn't it? It's a potenti... [20:26:25] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 06Language-Team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, and 4 others: Amazing Article Annotations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149667#2832555 (10cscott) [20:29:36] 10VisualEditor, 06Discovery-Search: List of links in VisualEditor should have better prioritazion of included links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151473#2832575 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Invalid This would require strong AI, or some other kind of magical technology, to avoid the self-clustering p... [20:32:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 06Community-Liaisons, 07Notice: Tech Talk for the 2017 wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145417#2832609 (10cscott) [20:32:24] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (9625e8f) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/322599 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:46:55] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (9625e8f) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/322599 (owner: 10Esanders) [22:09:01] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor hardly usable for talk and discussion pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151854#2833141 (10JAnD) 05declined>03Open > Will the visual editor be enabled on talk pages? > ​No. This question comes up quite often. But now IS enabled and flow have even more bugs so is not enab... [22:39:09] 10VisualEditor, 10Phlogiston (Technical Debt), 15User-JAufrecht: Phlogiston velocity charts are missing old data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144514#2833330 (10JAufrecht) @Jdforrester-WMF , is there another, more recent/more urgent bug related to the backlog zeroing? Or is this the behavior you need... [22:39:31] 10VisualEditor, 10Phlogiston (Technical Debt), 15User-JAufrecht (This Week): Phlogiston velocity charts are missing old data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144514#2833331 (10JAufrecht) [22:40:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Mobile VE is not loading on Beta Cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151959#2833341 (10Ryasmeen) [23:06:06] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] DiffElement: Use document slices with full internal lists [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/322797 (owner: 10Esanders) [23:08:26] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: DiffElement: Use document slices with full internal lists [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/322797 (owner: 10Esanders) [23:42:53] 10VisualEditor, 06Discovery-Search: List of links in VisualEditor should have better prioritization of included links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151473#2833594 (10Aklapper)