[09:05:09] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 06Community-Liaisons, 07Notice: Tech Talk for the 2017 wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145417#2864245 (10Tchanders) Yes - very happy to do that [10:14:32] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Editing a section in NWE scrolls to somewhere in the middle of the section - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152946#2864322 (10Schnark) [10:24:11] 10VisualEditor, 15User-Urbanecm: Add possibility to add links using button in template dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152947#2864343 (10Urbanecm) [10:28:36] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Tech Talk about visual diffs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152948#2864366 (10Elitre) [10:29:08] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 06Community-Liaisons, 07Notice: Tech Talk for the 2017 wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145417#2864382 (10Elitre) That's now T152948 for your convenience. Thanks everyone. [13:19:03] how can I make visualEditor.diffing module be part of the grunt build? [13:25:42] seems it should be in there [13:33:18] I don't get it, the dependency is there in modules.json but it is not getting concated into visualEditor.js [13:46:16] ok I finally got it [15:20:07] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Ensure content is selected after async source insert [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326439 [15:20:49] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Select links after creation in source mode [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326440 [16:28:07] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Ensure content is selected after async source insert [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326439 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:33:45] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Ensure content is selected after async source insert [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326439 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:37:49] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (721f591) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326470 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152645) [17:02:11] (03CR) 10DLynch: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (721f591) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326470 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152645) (owner: 10Jforrester) [17:14:32] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (721f591) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326470 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152645) (owner: 10Jforrester) [17:28:24] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: "Tech Talk" about visual diffs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152948#2865320 (10Elitre) [17:29:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Accessibility, 07Browser-Support-Firefox: The keyboard shortcut doesn't trigger save in the Save dialog in Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121183#1871853 (10DLynch) I don't see this happening in Firefox (any more?). Its behavior migh... [17:33:38] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Add ability to request base types in citoid, and offer use of both in extension for backwards compatibility until all templateData has been updated, and undo its use in extension, including use of templateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114515#2865352 (10Mvolz) [17:34:08] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Add ability to request base types in citoid, and offer use of both in extension for backwards compatibility until all templateData has been updated, and undo its use in extension, including use of templateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114515#1844467 (10Mvolz) Weirdly, nl h... [17:38:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Accessibility, 07Browser-Support-Firefox: The keyboard shortcut doesn't trigger save in the Save dialog in Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121183#2865355 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03stalled [17:41:25] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Adding wikilinks to citations leads to weird link behaviour - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152645#2865357 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved p:05Triage>03High a:03Catrope [17:43:42] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Automatic conversion of localized name for "File" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2865379 (10Elitre) [17:49:06] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Automatic conversion of localized name for "File" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2865379 (10ssastry) As fas as I can tell, this is because of {T110910} being deployed. T151367 exists to investigate how bad the normalizations are. [17:49:41] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Automatic conversion of localized name for "File" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2865398 (10ssastry) p:05Triage>03Normal a:03Arlolra [17:52:22] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Automatic conversion of localized name for "File" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2865404 (10Elitre) [18:01:12] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Automatic conversion of localized name for "File" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2865473 (10Arlolra) > this is because of {T110910} being deployed If it is, then I messed up. That should have only affected rendering, `extsrc` and, hence, serialization s... [18:02:25] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Automatic conversion of localized name for "File" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2865476 (10ssastry) >>! In T152981#2865393, @ssastry wrote: > As fas as I can tell, this is because of {T110910} being deployed. T151367 exists to investigate how bad the norm... [18:12:31] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Automatic conversion of localized name for "File" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2865518 (10Arlolra) ``` > echo -e "\nImmagine:Sandbox Not.svg\n" | node bin/parse --wt2wt --prefix itwiki Immagine:Sandbox Not.svg ``` [18:17:14] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Automatic conversion of localized name for "File" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2865545 (10ssastry) @esanders, @Krenair: can you look at the VE end of this? Is VE now relying on HTML-based serialization for galleries? [18:19:38] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Automatic conversion of localized name for "File" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2865554 (10Arlolra) It looks like VE is returning, ```
    (03PS3) 10Esanders: Support section=new in NWE [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326003 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150709) [19:26:09] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery, 10Parsoid: [Regression] Editing a gallery converts localized name for "File:" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2865786 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Normal>03High [19:29:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 07Epic: Rebaser: Make VE-rebaser functionality equivalent to Etherpad - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152993#2865807 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:29:31] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 07Epic: Rebaser: Make VE-rebaser functionality equivalent to Etherpad - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152993#2865825 (10Jdforrester-WMF) (Lots still to do, most notably including working out all the ways in which it isn't "fu... [19:29:46] 10VisualEditor: Rebaser: Persist data beyond memory - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152464#2865829 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:29:48] 10VisualEditor: Rebaser: Only show cursors for connected users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152487#2865828 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:29:50] 10VisualEditor: Rebaser: Make users persistent - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152463#2865830 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:29:52] 10VisualEditor: Rebaser: Allow users to set an alias - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152461#2865831 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:29:54] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 07Epic: Rebaser: Make VE-rebaser functionality equivalent to Etherpad - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152993#2865827 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:30:08] 10VisualEditor: Rebaser: Persist data beyond memory - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152464#2849186 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Low [19:30:22] 10VisualEditor: Rebaser: Make users persistent - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152463#2849172 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Low [19:30:40] 10VisualEditor: Rebaser: Allow users to set an alias - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152461#2849070 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Low [19:30:52] 10VisualEditor: Rebaser: Only show cursors for connected users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152487#2850033 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Low [19:31:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: "Tech Talk" about visual diffs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152948#2865854 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Normal [19:31:21] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Editing a section in NWE scrolls to somewhere in the middle of the section - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152946#2865855 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Normal [19:32:12] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Support section=new in NWE [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326003 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150709) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:58:22] 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht (This Week), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: Run VE/Editing Design SLU Round 2 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153002#2866035 (10JAufrecht) [19:58:43] 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht (This Week), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: Run VE/Editing Design SLU Round 3 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153003#2866051 (10JAufrecht) [19:59:14] 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht (This Week), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: Run VE/CL SLU Review Round 2 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153004#2866066 (10JAufrecht) [19:59:55] 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht (This Week), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: Run VE/CL SLU Review Round 3 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153005#2866081 (10JAufrecht) [20:03:33] 10VisualEditor, 07Category, 07Epic, 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: [EPIC] Conduct second round of VE SLU checkups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149621#2866104 (10JAufrecht) [20:03:36] 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht (This Week), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: Book and prep SLU Review between VE and CL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150352#2866102 (10JAufrecht) 05Open>03Resolved Fully broken out into smaller tasks [20:04:06] 10VisualEditor, 07Category, 07Epic, 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: [EPIC] Conduct second round of VE SLU checkups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149621#2758156 (10JAufrecht) [20:04:08] 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht (This Week), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: Book and prep SLU between VE and Editing Design - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150351#2866106 (10JAufrecht) 05Open>03Resolved Fully broken into smaller tasks. [20:04:14] 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht (This Week), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: Book and prep SLU between VE and Editing Design - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150351#2866110 (10JAufrecht) [20:04:16] 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht (This Week), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: Run VE/Editing Design SLU Round 2 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153002#2866109 (10JAufrecht) 05Open>03Resolved [20:04:26] 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht (This Week), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: Book and prep SLU Review between VE and CL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150352#2866112 (10JAufrecht) [20:04:28] 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht (This Week), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: Run VE/CL SLU Review Round 2 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153004#2866111 (10JAufrecht) 05Open>03Resolved [20:06:01] (03CR) 10Jforrester: Support section=new in NWE (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326003 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150709) (owner: 10Esanders) [20:08:49] (03PS4) 10Jforrester: Support section=new in NWE [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326003 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150709) (owner: 10Esanders) [20:09:57] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: MWWikitextLinkAnnotationInspector: Select links after creation [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326440 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:10:04] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] MWWikitextLinkAnnotationInspector: Select links after creation [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326440 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:15:02] 10VisualEditor, 10Phlogiston (Technical Debt), 15User-JAufrecht (This Week), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: Phlogiston velocity charts are missing old data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144514#2866160 (10JAufrecht) This is fixed and live on production. Velocity charts now have complete historical data. [20:15:21] 10VisualEditor, 10Phlogiston (Technical Debt), 15User-JAufrecht (This Week), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: Phlogiston velocity charts are missing old data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144514#2866161 (10JAufrecht) 05Open>03Resolved [20:23:49] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: MWWikitextLinkAnnotationInspector: Select links after creation [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326440 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:41:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery: Update gallery dialog to work with Parsoid's native implementation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150621#2866242 (10Esanders) [20:41:31] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid: Update extension node renderings without building XML/wikitext in the client - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151720#2866241 (10Esanders) [20:42:01] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid: Update extension node renderings without building XML/wikitext in the client - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151720#2825464 (10Esanders) //Removing gallery block as we may take a native rendering approach to support in-line caption editing.// [21:02:15] 10VisualEditor, 10Phlogiston (Burnup-Support), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: In Open Task and Recently Closed task reports, Phlogiston should visually differentiate between zero and null point tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146221#2866310 (10JAufrecht) a:03JAufrecht [21:02:52] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Add VE support [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/325238 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152230) (owner: 10Esanders) [21:05:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add VE support [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/325238 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152230) (owner: 10Esanders) [21:05:55] 10VisualEditor, 10Phlogiston (Burnup-Support), 15User-JAufrecht (This Week), 15User-Jaufrecht Backlog: In Open Task and Recently Closed task reports, Phlogiston should visually differentiate between zero and null point tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146221#2654118 (10JAufrecht) [21:07:14] (03PS5) 10Esanders: Support section=new in NWE [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326003 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150709) [21:08:38] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] "This is harmless. None of the remaining translations with $2 are actually using gender-specific text, it's all just `{{GENDER:$2|Foo}}`, w" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/325047 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:09:20] Thanks MatmaRex. [21:09:48] sure [21:10:13] Want to merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/326003/ ? :-) [21:11:12] 10VisualEditor, 07Browser-Support-Apple-Safari: Clicking the Save button in the toolbar scrolls the page to the end in Safari 10 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153010#2866333 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) [21:11:58] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Browser-Support-Apple-Safari: Clicking the Save button in the toolbar scrolls the page to the end in Safari 10 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153010#2866345 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03High [21:13:39] :o [21:14:42] James_F: i'll review it later, unless it's high priority [21:15:20] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery, 10Parsoid: [Regression] Editing a gallery converts localized name for "File:" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2866351 (10Esanders) Appears to be working fine on fr.wiki: {F5043918} Maybe the is a config issue w... [21:15:38] MatmaRex: We want it in the 'cut' for tomorrow but it's not crisis-urgent. [21:16:53] well, neither is anything else i have to do, so might as well do it now [21:20:10] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Follow-up ae8a2750: Stop passing long-dead second parameter [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/325047 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:23:38] James_F: hm, how do i even enable NWE on my wiki? i did $wgVisualEditorEnableWikitext = true; and turned on the beta feature in preferences, but it's not working. [21:24:10] Hmm. That should work… [21:24:23] Cached code? [21:25:04] If not, I'd ask edsanders. [21:25:17] hmmm, apparently it was just that, because it works now :o [21:26:25] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery, 10Parsoid: [Regression] Editing a gallery converts localized name for "File:" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2866380 (10Tchanders) @ssastry The version that relies on HTML-based serialization hasn't been deploy... [21:31:29] Ha. [21:43:18] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery, 10Parsoid: [Regression] Editing a gallery converts localized name for "File:" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2866425 (10Arlolra) https://it.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces... [21:50:52] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery, 10Parsoid: [Regression] Editing a gallery converts localized name for "File:" to English one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152981#2865379 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Yup, Italian (for whatever reason) has "File" and "Discussioni_file" as t... [21:51:40] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] "I've not reviewed the code, just tested. There's at least one big bug:" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326003 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150709) (owner: 10Esanders) [23:03:16] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Editing-UX-Research, 07Epic: Editing Design evaluates the new wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141068#2866566 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved [23:03:18] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 07Beta-Feature, and 2 others: Provide a Beta Feature of a modern wikitext editor integrated into the visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141149#2866567 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:04:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 06Community-Liaisons (Oct-Dec-2016), 07Notice: Announce the new 2017 wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142645#2866570 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Text for VP posting now being translated at https://meta.wiki... [23:05:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 07Beta-Feature, and 2 others: Provide a Beta Feature of a modern wikitext editor integrated into the visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141149#2488569 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:05:03] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10RESTBase, 06Services (watching): Wikitext surface needs an etag to use RESTBase - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142861#2866571 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Invalid I'm provisionally closing this as Invalid a... [23:06:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 07Design, 07Epic: Provide a second version of a beta modern wikitext editor integrated into the visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142523#2866575 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:06:03] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Indent/outdent tools don't work in NWE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147858#2866574 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:06:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 07Beta-Feature, and 2 others: Provide a Beta Feature of a modern wikitext editor integrated into the visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141149#2866576 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:06:21] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 07Beta-Feature, and 2 others: Provide a Beta Feature of a modern wikitext editor integrated into the visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141149#2488569 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:17:18] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid should be able to understand HTML entities in links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98960#2866640 (10Arlolra)