[00:07:49] (03Restored) 10Krinkle: dm.MWTemplateSpecModel: Remove broken deprecation description method [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129857 (owner: 10Krinkle) [00:08:13] (03PS2) 10Krinkle: dm.MWTemplateSpecModel: Remove broken deprecation description method [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129857 [00:08:16] (03PS3) 10Krinkle: dm.MWTemplateSpecModel: Remove broken deprecation description method [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129857 [00:09:15] (03PS4) 10Krinkle: tests: [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129857 [00:15:36] (03PS5) 10Krinkle: tests: [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129857 [00:15:53] (03PS6) 10Krinkle: tests: Remove QUnit.newMwEnvironment from ve.test.utils.mwEnvironment [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129857 [00:15:56] (03CR) 10Krinkle: "Passes :)" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129857 (owner: 10Krinkle) [00:21:22] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] tests: Remove QUnit.newMwEnvironment from ve.test.utils.mwEnvironment [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129857 (owner: 10Krinkle) [00:30:43] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: tests: Remove QUnit.newMwEnvironment from ve.test.utils.mwEnvironment [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129857 (owner: 10Krinkle) [08:22:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs: In visual diff, parameter changes to templates inside references are shown out of place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169398#3455527 (10Schnark) When I originally reported this, the two change annotations were at the top of the annotation column, while the act... [09:03:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Performance, 10Performance-Team: Performance review of VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171093#3453831 (10Deskana) This would be very much appreciated. In particular, the performance of the [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/2017_wikitext_editor | 2017 Wikitext... [09:36:19] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep 2017), 10User-notice: Support WMF communities in run-up to switching EditPage over to OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162849#3455735 (10TheDJ) [09:45:21] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs: New comment shows up as an added space in the content in the VisualDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170134#3455739 (10Prtksxna) >>! In T170134#3422388, @Tchanders wrote: > This is a bit more complicated than it looks - we don't have a way yet of describing c... [10:11:47] 10VisualEditor, 10MobileFrontend, 10Reading-Web-Backlog, 10Design, and 4 others: Regression: Editor hash fragment behaviour results in editor staying open - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162128#3153377 (10Deskana) >>! In T162128#3453561, @HairyDude wrote: > Has this patch been deployed to Wikipedia? I... [10:41:41] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Design: Please rearrange the order of items in the Insert menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169801#3455853 (10Prtksxna) NOTE: The following assumes that: "//A major overhaul does not seem worth the effort.//" – @deskana I have a pretty bad proposal in mind... [10:57:42] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Automated archiving of URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89438#3455889 (10Elitre) If anybody can provide details around the relationship between this tool and Citoid, they are welcome to do so at the page linked above. TY. [10:58:49] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10User-Urbanecm: TemplateData: Normalisation should not assume paramOrder - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138200#3455891 (10Elitre) Adding current PM. [11:02:08] 10WikiEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10JavaScript, 10Tracking: Bugs in WikiEditor's "Live preview" feature (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41272#3455909 (10Fomafix) [11:04:31] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs: Nothing shown in visual diff when editing invisible templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170107#3455920 (10Prtksxna) [11:18:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs: Nothing shown in visual diff when editing invisible templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170107#3455933 (10Prtksxna) Borrowing the yellow from T169325, and the icons from T170134 we could: {F8801061,size=full} {F8801063,size=full} [12:53:04] 10WikiEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10JavaScript, 10Tracking: Bugs in "Live preview" feature (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41272#3456099 (10Fomafix) [12:55:11] 10WikiEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10JavaScript, 10Tracking: Bugs in "Live preview" feature (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41272#3456102 (10Fomafix) I removed "WikiEditor" from task description because live preview is mainly a feature of core and not of the extension WikiEditor. The e... [14:32:20] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10Operations, 10Services (blocked): Separate citoid service for beta that runs off master instead of deploy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92304#3456390 (10mobrovac) 05Open>03declined The source repo is never ahead of the deploy repo for more than a couple of days, so th... [14:32:33] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10Operations, 10Services (done): Separate citoid service for beta that runs off master instead of deploy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92304#3456392 (10mobrovac) [15:09:15] 10VisualEditor, 10MobileFrontend, 10Reading-Web-Backlog, 10Design, and 4 others: Regression: Editor hash fragment behaviour results in editor staying open - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162128#3456598 (10Jdlrobson) @HairyDude it should be yes. Works for me too. Wmf9 went live on Monday. [16:28:35] hello! i'm using a "turnkey-linux" instance of mediawiki on AWS that uses version 1.19 -- i'm investigating whether or not i can upgrade this successfully to 1.27 (LTS) and am wondering whether or not i can get a version of VisualEditor compatible w/ 1.19 in the meantime [16:29:40] maybe there is an archive of VisualEditor versions that are not listed as downloadable on the support site? [16:34:36] steveemmons: Development of VisualEditor started after MediaWiki 1.19. [16:35:09] steveemmons: Note that the version of VisualEditor built for MediaWiki 1.27 is now two years old, and misses quite a lot of features (as well as bug fixes etc.) [16:39:46] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-Ryasmeen: On serialising, if a parameter alias is used Parsoid should use its main item's paramOrder - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154718#3456994 (10Arlolra) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Arlolra [16:43:35] ok... thanks for the update... our thought was not to support the parsoid approach to keep our installation simple... i suppose we can upgrade even higher than an LTS version, but we still aren't sure we can upgrade the TurnKey instance at all [16:44:43] * James_F nods. [16:45:05] 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Liaisons, 10Editing-team: Future of the visual editor newsletter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139305#3457028 (10Elitre) Also, we'll want to investigate related answers in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Engagement_Insights/2016-17_Report/Technical_Collaborations#... [16:45:35] steveemmons: On the plus side, there are no known security issues (jinx) with any version of VisualEditor, so using an old version shouldn't be an issue from that perspective. [16:57:00] (03CR) 10DLynch: [C: 032] ve.ui.MWEducationPopupTool: Don't show if not inside a BarToolGroup [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/366325 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170919) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [17:01:25] (03CR) 10C. Scott Ananian: "ed: I haven't gotten any responses from languages community wrt better names for these rules. Could you remove your C-1 and we can discus" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/356739 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49411) (owner: 10C. Scott Ananian) [17:07:21] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: ve.ui.MWEducationPopupTool: Don't show if not inside a BarToolGroup [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/366325 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170919) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [17:29:46] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: ve.ui.MWEducationPopupTool: Don't show if not inside a BarToolGroup [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/366325 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170919) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:00:46] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor: Make 'monospace' the default font for the wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171201#3457275 (10Esanders) [18:01:03] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 10Design: Make 'monospace' the default font for the wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171201#3457287 (10Esanders) [18:05:31] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 10Design: Make 'monospace' the default font for the wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171201#3457275 (10matmarex) See also {T170223}? [18:20:25] 10VisualEditor, 10Flow, 10TemplateStyles, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), and 2 others: Add class mw-parser-output to Flow comment- or content- containing elements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164791#3457347 (10Anomie) Looks good on https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w... [18:54:28] hi, how can I get the OOUI save button instance object? (e.g $('#wpSaveWidget') will return the $element not the ooui instance) [19:00:53] asking because I had to do some ugly stuff as workaround: https://he.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D7%9E%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94_%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99:Nosaving.js&diff=21182615&oldid=17332446 [19:03:08] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 10Design: Make 'monospace' the default font for the wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171201#3457521 (10Esanders) Yeah, that would be the next logical step, but I didn't mention it here to limit the scope. [19:11:15] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10Design, 10User-notice: Make 'monospace' the default font for the wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171201#3457528 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:15:21] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-User-preferences, and 3 others: Make 'monospace' the default font for the wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171201#3457537 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:15:56] eranroz: var wpSummary = OO.ui.infuse( $( '#wpSummaryWidget' ) ); [19:16:07] eranroz: (From mediawiki.action.edit.js .) [19:34:28] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (be80158a9) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/366619 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171055) [20:02:55] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-User-preferences, and 3 others: Make 'monospace' the default font for the wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171201#3457744 (10Esanders) This is still a fairly big change for a large percentage of users, so will need some... [20:45:03] 10WikiEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10UI-Standardization, 10Design: "Cancel" button in action=edit must not look like a red link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165122#3257618 (10Tgr) FWIW clicking a red link while you are editing a form destroys your work just the same clicking a blue one would (... [21:03:42] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/366703 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [21:11:32] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: tests: Align setup/teardown function naming with QUnit 2.x [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/365682 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170872) [21:12:41] 10Cite, 10Editing-team, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Technical-Debt: Align Cite's naming of setup/teardown methods to QUnit 2.x - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170873#3457970 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Lowest [21:14:09] 10Cite, 10Editing-team, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Technical-Debt: Align Cite's naming of setup/teardown methods to QUnit 2.x - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170873#3445626 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [21:14:31] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/366718 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [21:15:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Technical-Debt: Align VisualEditor-MediaWiki's naming of setup/teardown methods to QUnit 2.x - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170872#3457994 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Normal>03Lowest [21:15:21] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Technical-Debt: Align VisualEditor-MediaWiki's naming of setup/teardown methods to QUnit 2.x - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170872#3445612 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [21:17:02] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] tests: Align setup/teardown function naming with QUnit 2.x [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/365682 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170872) (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:27:08] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-User-preferences, and 3 others: Make 'monospace' the default font for the wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171201#3457275 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T171201#3457744, @Esanders wrote: > This is still a fairly big change... [22:11:54] (03CR) 10Deskana: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (be80158a9) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/366619 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171055) (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:12:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-07-25_(1.30.0-wmf.11)), 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-Ryasmeen: Insert menu scrolls vertically and horiztonally, and has clipped message at the bottom of it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170919#3458339 (10Deskana) 05O... [22:14:38] 10VisualEditor, 10Contributors-Team, 10MobileFrontend, 10Accessibility, and 2 others: Stop jumping all the way to the beginning of the wikicode when the user starts typing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132848#3458373 (10Jdlrobson) [22:22:52] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (be80158a9) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/366619 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171055) (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:27:33] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (be80158a9) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/366619 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171055) (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:30:31] 10Cite, 10TCB-Team: Implement "extends"-attribute for ref-tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151301#3458465 (10Izno) >>! In T151301#3377587, @thiemowmde wrote: >This does not solve the problem we want to solve here, because we want each `extends` to be a separate, non-concatenated reference with a separa... [22:36:52] 10Cite, 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Design: Harv style citations based on T95702 solution - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144695#2607593 (10Izno) It seems to me that T151301 and specifically the task for VE at {T151308} would mitigate this task. [22:46:23] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror, 10Community-Tech-Sprint, 10Performance: Investigation: CodeMirror + New WikiText Editor performance issues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161054#3458601 (10kaldari) To make sure we test against https://g... [22:59:40] 10VisualEditor, 10Flow, 10TemplateStyles, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), and 2 others: Add class mw-parser-output to Flow comment- or content- containing elements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164791#3458685 (10Etonkovidova) Checked in betalabs mw-parser-output is added:... [22:59:50] 10VisualEditor, 10Flow, 10TemplateStyles, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), and 3 others: Add class mw-parser-output to Flow comment- or content- containing elements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164791#3458686 (10Etonkovidova) 05Open>03Resolved [23:15:47] (03PS4) 10Krinkle: tests: Align setup/teardown function naming with QUnit 2.x [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/365682 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170872) (owner: 10Jforrester) [23:17:15] (03CR) 10Krinkle: tests: Align setup/teardown function naming with QUnit 2.x (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/365682 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170872) (owner: 10Jforrester) [23:23:07] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] tests: Align setup/teardown function naming with QUnit 2.x [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/365682 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170872) (owner: 10Jforrester) [23:25:16] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror, 10Community-Tech-Sprint, 10Performance: Investigation: CodeMirror + New WikiText Editor performance issues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161054#3458773 (10TheDJ) FYI on MacOS Apple has something called...