[00:22:41] James_F, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51622 -- can we please give this a kick? And where may I find status of real-time collaborative editing within VE? Thanks. [00:24:50] James_F, and I would like to have margin notes, like https://www.npmjs.com/package/ep_comments_page, when editing collaboratively in real time, so that these comments get stored in json or another format on-wiki somewhere too [00:25:10] James_F, if you have suggestions for a person who is awake at UTC+10 who would be good for me to contact, please let me know [00:27:05] James_F, as I would like to develop a few scripts, new toolbar buttons for VE, I remember last I tried it I got stuck. Having something different from dead silence at my daytime would be just amazing [00:59:45] as an example, I would like to have a VE toolbar button which opens Rater dialog (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gryllida/gadgets/rater.js) [01:00:08] not sure how to write this [01:02:14] I remember writing https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gryllida/gadgets/toolbar/modules/rater/init.js many months ago, but now that I read it, I only understand 5% at best [03:41:37] Sveta: for real-time collaboration, the core basically exists now. this was demoed at the vienna hackathon a couple weeks ago: http://visualeditor-test.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:CollabPad/Demo [03:41:53] but i don't think we've solved the issue of attribution for such edits yet [03:43:58] Sveta: for creating your own tools, i think the best thing we have right now is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Gadgets#User_script and stealing things from VE source code, or from existing tools (there's a list of a few at the bottom of that page) [03:47:05] Sveta: and this might also be a helpful overview (these docs are kind of in "beta" right now though): https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:DLynch_(WMF)/VisualEditor/GettingStarted [03:49:53] as for getting live help in different timezones - VE developers are mostly in Europe and the US, so you might have to ask early if you're in UTC+10 (or stay up very late)... i'm happy to help if you see me on IRC, but i'm in Europe normlly (in Canada right now for Wikimania) [03:52:31] Sveta: if you drop me an email (matma.rex@gmail.com), i can look into integrating that with the toolbar - hopefully it'll serve as a good example for the next time someone asks for this :) i'm about to head off to sleep right now, so email me with a reminder and i'll write you a script on Wednesday :) (after i'm home and slept off the flights) [04:27:27] MatmaRex_mobile, thanks, sleep well [04:40:59] email sent [06:53:04] 10WikiEditor, 10translatewiki.net, 10I18n: WikiEditor in translatewiki.net shows a message in Kannada instead of English - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173182#3520551 (10Nikerabbit) Search does not find ``ಸಗಾಯೊ`` anywhere in translatewiki.net. And I cannot reproduce. [07:39:09] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/371895 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [07:45:09] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/371904 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [09:25:48] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: New wikitext editor should anchordecode internal links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T160877#3523474 (10Fomafix) The new html5 fragment escaping from https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/362326 (fd6e9ef2d4) is not idempotent anymore: `bár` will encod... [09:38:38] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Patch-For-Review: Convert reference lists over to `responsive` on enwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173176#3523516 (10gh87) @Jdforrester-WMF I apologize, but the [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)&d... [10:21:52] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: Provide a way to insert nested templates to template parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173274#3523551 (10Aklapper) [10:29:35] 10WikiEditor, 10translatewiki.net, 10I18n: WikiEditor in translatewiki.net shows a message in Kannada instead of English - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173182#3523579 (10Amire80) It's supremely weird, but I'm not making this up: {F9066809} [11:49:05] 10WikiEditor, 10translatewiki.net, 10I18n: WikiEditor in translatewiki.net shows a message in Kannada instead of English - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173182#3523696 (10Nikerabbit) For starters, I don't even have the same toolbar :) [11:52:40] 10WikiEditor, 10translatewiki.net, 10I18n: WikiEditor in translatewiki.net shows a message in Kannada instead of English - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173182#3523700 (10Nikerabbit) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Nikerabbit I deleted https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikieditor-toolbar-section-help... [12:49:48] 10VisualEditor, 10Mobile-Content-Service, 10RESTBase, 10RESTBase-API, and 2 others: Support flagged revisions in RESTBase - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169116#3387536 (10ssastry) > /page/html/{title}/{revision}: Return specific revision, independent of whether it is stable or not. This should be au... [14:28:09] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth, 10MinervaNeue, 10Browser-Tests, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Edits sometimes fail for new users erroneously reporting them as anon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172835#3523969 (10zeljkofilipin) [16:35:55] 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep 2017), 10User-Ryasmeen: Visual editor for francophones at Wikimania 2017 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173053#3524405 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [17:22:11] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep 2017): Support wikis in converting reference lists over to `responsive` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T159895#3524489 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [17:22:14] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Patch-For-Review: Convert reference lists over to `responsive` on enwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173176#3524487 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03stalled Sure, no problem. [17:43:06] 10VisualEditor, 10User-Zppix: template images (that are SVG) tend to enlarge unexpectly, when entering VE edit mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173336#3524526 (10Zppix)