[04:55:04] (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 032] DesktopArticleTarget.init: Load 'mediawiki.action.view.postEdit' via loader [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/382614 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164148) (owner: 10Jforrester) [05:04:26] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: DesktopArticleTarget.init: Load 'mediawiki.action.view.postEdit' via loader [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/382614 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164148) (owner: 10Jforrester) [05:07:20] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: DesktopArticleTarget.init: Load 'mediawiki.action.view.postEdit' via loader [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/382614 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164148) (owner: 10Jforrester) [06:27:05] 10VisualEditor, 10Hindi-Sites: Publish Changes button not working some times on hindi wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177814#3671147 (10Jayprakash12345) p:05Triage>03High [07:05:53] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10User-Ryasmeen: Fix the automatic cite feature of VisualEditor in Sundanese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176571#3671171 (10Mvolz) 05Open>03Resolved [07:05:55] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Community-Liaisons: Help some smaller Wikipedias' communities by writing the TemplateData and enabling citoid for them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127354#3671172 (10Mvolz) [08:44:01] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10ProveIt-Gadget: Error when gadget is enabled and NWE beta is enabled at the same time - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177817#3671240 (10TheDJ) [09:01:08] 10VisualEditor, 10Hindi-Sites: Publish Changes button not working some times on hindi wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177814#3671264 (10Deskana) 05Open>03stalled I can't reproduce this in my sandbox. Please give more detailed reproduction steps. [09:29:34] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep 2017), and 2 others: Support WMF communities in run-up to switching EditPage over to OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162849#3671340 (10Dvorapa) The summary label is broken again since yesterday and also id of... [09:58:49] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor says I have "2 notices" but only one is shown. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177822#3671516 (10Nikerabbit) [10:35:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, 10User-Nikerabbit: Changes made using NWE are blocked by Translate extension but copied into OWE they're accepted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154500#3671588 (10Nikerabbit) I can confirm my guess: ``` st... [10:42:19] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, 10User-Nikerabbit: Changes made using NWE are blocked by Translate extension but copied into OWE they're accepted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154500#3671591 (10Nikerabbit) Update: apparently the newlines... [10:45:59] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MediaWiki-ContentHandler, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, and 2 others: Changes made using NWE are blocked by Translate extension but copied into OWE they're accepted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154500#3671610 (10Nikerabbit) I consid... [11:35:00] 10VisualEditor, 10Hindi-Sites: Publish Changes button not working some times on hindi wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177814#3671663 (10Aklapper) @Capankajsmilyo: Please manually add `debug=true` in the URL (see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Locating_broken_scripts for more information, th... [11:54:24] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-10-10 (1.31.0-wmf.3)), and 3 others: Load module 'mediawiki.action.view.postEdit' only when needed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164148#3671705 (10Deskana) 05Open>03Resolved [11:58:08] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor no remove dialog for adding template(s) after adding in palemoon browser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176773#3671717 (10Deskana) p:05Triage>03Lowest >>! In T176773#3638746, @Zoranzoki21 wrote: > "Use of "wgScriptPath" is deprecated. Use mw.config instead." load.php:154:96... [12:17:49] (03CR) 10Esanders: ce.Surface: handle table-adjacent observed selection changes better (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/381805 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148679) (owner: 10DLynch) [14:31:32] Hello all! I've upgraded to 1.30 and my visualeditor still breaks when I hit any button in the interface. Actually breaks it so hard the scrollbar doesn't work any longer. [14:31:38] No errors, just sadness [15:09:27] 10Cite, 10OOjs-UI: Merge Cite icons into OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177847#3672297 (10Esanders) [15:18:21] 10VisualEditor: VE REL1_30 silently fails after any action which opens a dialogue window - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177849#3672344 (10UlfrTheRed) [15:25:24] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-10-10 (1.31.0-wmf.3)), and 2 others: jQuery.IME not working in VisualEditor/2017 wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176104#3672368 (10Desk... [15:25:29] 10VisualEditor: VE REL1_30 silently fails after any action which opens a dialogue window - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177849#3672371 (10UlfrTheRed) [15:27:59] 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Liaisons (Oct-Dec 2017): Second phase of centralisation of VE user feedback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162664#3672374 (10Elitre) [15:33:20] 10Cite, 10OOjs-UI: Merge Cite icons into OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177847#3672382 (10Esanders) [15:58:12] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep 2017), and 2 others: Support WMF communities in run-up to switching EditPage over to OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162849#3672465 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T162849#3671340, @Dvorapa wrote: > The summary la... [15:58:41] 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Liaisons (Oct-Dec 2017): Second phase of centralisation of VE user feedback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162664#3672466 (10Elitre) I have sent some 35 messages to all the wikis involved. In 2 weeks we'll see which ones are staffed by volunteers, and which ones aren't. [16:09:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-10-10 (1.31.0-wmf.3)), and 2 others: jQuery.IME not working in VisualEditor/2017 wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176104#3672476 (10Kart... [16:15:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-10-10 (1.31.0-wmf.3)), and 2 others: jQuery.IME not working in VisualEditor/2017 wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176104#3672506 (10Anoo... [16:20:25] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-10-10 (1.31.0-wmf.3)), and 2 others: jQuery.IME not working in VisualEditor/2017 wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176104#3672541 (10Desk... [16:55:47] Ulfr: do you get any errors in the console? Which browser are you using? [16:56:01] Firefox, and no errors appear in console. [16:57:08] behavior also happens in chrome. a number of other machines have also reported similar behavior [16:58:13] If I click save or advanced settings the interface does a hard nope and stops responding, stuff like LTR and RTL switching will still work [17:03:34] edsanders: ^ I'm getting foods, I'll be back shortly. [17:20:56] 10VisualEditor: VE REL1_30 silently fails after any action which opens a dialogue window - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177849#3672344 (10Deskana) Thanks for the report. So we can take a look, please open your browser console and paste in here any errors that are shown. [17:28:16] 10VisualEditor: VE REL1_30 silently fails after any action which opens a dialogue window - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177849#3672875 (10UlfrTheRed) Well, I would, except there aren't any. Console doesn't register anything, be it notice, script, log, or error. [17:34:58] 10VisualEditor: VE REL1_30 silently fails after any action which opens a dialogue window - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177849#3672896 (10Deskana) >>! In T177849#3672875, @UlfrTheRed wrote: > Well, I would, except there aren't any. Console doesn't register anything, be it notice, script, log, or error. If... [17:36:46] 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation, 10Contributors-Team, 10Design, 10WorkType-NewFunctionality: Content Translation feature parity checklist post VisualEditor integration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150652#3672898 (10Arrbee) [17:37:02] 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation, 10Contributors-Team, 10Design, 10WorkType-NewFunctionality: Content Translation feature parity checklist post VisualEditor integration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150652#2792172 (10Arrbee) [17:37:50] 10VisualEditor: VE REL1_30 silently fails after any action which opens a dialogue window - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177849#3672902 (10UlfrTheRed) Done. You should've recieved an e-mail with your username and password. >>! In T177849#3672896, @Deskana wrote: >>>! In T177849#3672875, @UlfrTheRed wrote:... [17:51:20] 10VisualEditor, 10User-Ryasmeen: [Regression wmf.18] Media Settings dialog is opening with a solid gray disabled selection in a slug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175939#3672939 (10Ryasmeen) 05Open>03Resolved [17:51:49] 10VisualEditor, 10User-Ryasmeen: [Regression wmf.18] Media Settings dialog is opening with a solid gray disabled selection in a slug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175939#3672945 (10Deskana) [17:52:44] 10VisualEditor, 10User-Ryasmeen: [Regression wmf.18] Media Settings dialog is opening with a solid gray disabled selection in a slug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175939#3672947 (10Ryasmeen) It got fixed somehow, can't reproduce it anymore. Was happening consistently for all images and other dialogs wh... [17:58:07] I'd reaaaally rather not upgrade to the current master version of MW, but I will if I have to. [18:06:24] 10VisualEditor: VE REL1_30 silently fails after any action which opens a dialogue window - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177849#3672990 (10Deskana) This error appears in my console when clicking the media dialogue: ``` jQuery.Deferred exception: OO.ui.CardLayout is not a constructor TypeError: OO.ui.CardLa... [18:08:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Score, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-Ryasmeen: [Regression wmf.1] Context menu for Score extension (and nothing else?) are opening up in random positions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176766#3673004 (10Ryasmeen) The misalignment issue f... [18:13:06] 10VisualEditor: VE REL1_30 silently fails after any action which opens a dialogue window - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177849#3672344 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Hey. The error `jQuery.Deferred exception: OO.ui.CardLayout is not a constructor ` means you've got code that's trying to use CardLayout, which was remo... [18:14:48] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Score, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-10-03 (1.31.0-wmf.2)), and 2 others: [Regression wmf.1] Context menu for Score extension (and nothing else?) are opening up in random positions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176766#3673034... [18:15:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Score, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-10-03 (1.31.0-wmf.2)), and 2 others: [Regression wmf.1] Context menu for Score extension (and nothing else?) are opening up in random positions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176766#3635976... [18:16:25] 10VisualEditor: VE REL1_30 silently fails after any action which opens a dialogue window - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177849#3673037 (10UlfrTheRed) Done. Also amazed you got a response from this, I'm unable to get that to appear :( [18:23:34] James_F: I restarted both frontends, and I have no idea how he managed to bring up that error. :( [18:23:48] Ulfr: Does it now work? [18:24:21] Negative [18:26:12] and if I run it in debug=true nothing shows up in that log or the error log. [18:26:19] Deskana: Can you repeat what you did before and see if you can replicate? [18:26:34] Let me see. [18:26:54] Deskana: And if you can, please gimmie the serverID [18:26:55] http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/ServerID [18:27:10] that way it's not a 50/50 shot I'm puttering on the right server [18:27:16] Whoa. [18:27:44] The start of the exception is the same, but it's very different after that. [18:27:47] I'll put it in the task. [18:28:09] What's the ID? [18:28:24] Ulfr: I can't copy and paste it. It ends in 8FHT. [18:28:37] thanks [18:29:08] 10VisualEditor: VE REL1_30 silently fails after any action which opens a dialogue window - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177849#3673054 (10Deskana) I tried again, and I got a similar, but different, error: ``` load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=000t46t:... [18:29:13] OK, if y'all want me to wipe out what I pulled from git and do it again I'd be happy to [18:29:44] I mean, the whole UI of the site is broken. [18:30:11] When I click on the notifications bubble I get "load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=000t46t:177 TypeError: mw.echo.ui.alertWidget.badgeButton.debouncedUpdateThemeClasses is not a function" [18:30:32] Looks like there's a lot more wrong here than VE. [18:30:39] Sorry, I have to dash to a meeting. [18:31:52] Is it still my install's fault if I disable every extension aside from Cite and Citoid and VE still doesn't work? Because I'll do that. [18:34:33] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor says I have "2 notices" but only one is shown. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177822#3671516 (10Deskana) What page is this on? [18:44:42] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror: Unexpected linebreaks added to edits - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177804#3670818 (10Deskana) I can't even get syntax highlighting to work. I enabled both the "New wikitext mode" beta feature. Neither the "... [18:44:56] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror: Unexpected linebreaks added to edits - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177804#3673178 (10Deskana) @Ryasmeen Could you take a look at this? I have no idea what's happening. [18:55:13] 10VisualEditor: Interwiki with a colon inside ref tag are replaced by "wikipedia" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177784#3673227 (10Deskana) p:05Triage>03Low Please give detailed reproduction steps next time. It took me quite a while to figure out how to reproduce the problem, and I very nearly stopped... [18:59:46] 10VisualEditor: [regression wmf.2] Typing in a newly created empty 
 doesn't work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177517#3673237 (10Deskana) 05Open>03Invalid I can't reproduce this either, so I'm closing as invalid. @catrope If you can still reproduce, please reopen with some more details.  Side-not...
[19:04:38] 	 10VisualEditor: VE REL1_30 silently fails after any action which opens a dialogue window - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177849#3673285 (10UlfrTheRed) That different error is still sourced from CardLayout, which as Jdforrester-WMF mentioned isn't supposed to be loading for REL1_30 in the first place.  I'd b...
[19:14:07] 	 James_F: Is there any point in me keeping track of that phabricator ticket any longer? seems like he clicked something irrelevant and then pushed it into a backlog category that doesn't actually exist.
[19:39:12] 	 Well, that Echo extension is permanently in the trash heap. VE is still having troubles though. Thanks for taking a look Deskana James_F 
[20:03:35] 	 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 10Contributors-Team, 10MobileFrontend, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): WikiEditor and MobileFrontend seem to be incompatible - redirect to void - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162708#3673605 (10MBinder_WMF)
[20:03:43] 	 10VisualEditor, 10Contributors-Team, 10Wikidata-Page-Banner, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Banners do not show up in mobile editor preview or new beta feature "wikitext editor" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110843#3673611 (10MBinder_WMF)
[20:13:36] 	 (03PS1) 10Divec: WIP: Get a ve.ce.BranchNode position's corresponding DOM position [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/383404
[20:21:01] 	 (03PS1) 10DLynch: init.mw.Target: make getSurfaceConfig aware of modes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/383410 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153959)
[21:07:25] 	 (03PS2) 10Divec: Get a ve.ce.BranchNode position's corresponding DOM position [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/383404
[21:13:33] 	 (03CR) 10Divec: "One aim here is to merge the metadata change more easily. Currently there are two incompatible improvements to ve.ce.BranchNode#onSplice:" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/383404 (owner: 10Divec)
[21:29:19] 	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/383458 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[21:33:35] 	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/383465 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[21:55:26] 	 (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] init.mw.Target: make getSurfaceConfig aware of modes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/383410 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153959) (owner: 10DLynch)
[22:02:36] 	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: init.mw.Target: make getSurfaceConfig aware of modes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/383410 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153959) (owner: 10DLynch)
[22:04:31] 	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: init.mw.Target: make getSurfaceConfig aware of modes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/383410 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153959) (owner: 10DLynch)
[22:10:57] 	 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep 2017), and 2 others: Support WMF communities in run-up to switching EditPage over to OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162849#3674021 (10Dvorapa) I've tried French Wikipedia, where the label is much longer and...
[22:18:25] 	 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep 2017), and 2 others: Support WMF communities in run-up to switching EditPage over to OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162849#3674034 (10matmarex) I don't see the issue either. Can you take and upload another s...
[22:19:03] 	 (03CR) 10DLynch: ce.Surface: handle table-adjacent observed selection changes better (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/381805 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148679) (owner: 10DLynch)
[22:22:52] 	 (03PS3) 10DLynch: ce.Surface: handle table-adjacent observed selection changes better [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/381805 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148679)
[22:29:48] 	 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep 2017), and 2 others: Support WMF communities in run-up to switching EditPage over to OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162849#3674066 (10Dvorapa) Logged out, Opera 48, Arch linux + Gnome 3.26: {F10127539}
[22:43:41] 	 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep 2017), and 2 others: Support WMF communities in run-up to switching EditPage over to OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162849#3674114 (10Dvorapa) Caused by max-width: 50em, it really looks as if the former bug...
[23:14:18] 	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] ce.Surface: handle table-adjacent observed selection changes better [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/381805 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148679) (owner: 10DLynch)
[23:47:40] 	 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep 2017), and 2 others: Support WMF communities in run-up to switching EditPage over to OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162849#3674276 (10matmarex) Huh, indeed. The font my system ends up using is narrow enough...