[00:08:59] 10VisualEditor: Edited transclusion with multiple paragraphs/block elements in a parameter serialised onto one line, breaking semantics when TemplateData missing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131444#3739353 (10ssastry) Not sure if there is anything to be done here for Parsoid or VE, but will let @Deskana... [04:31:00] (03PS2) 10Krinkle: Depend on new mediawiki.editfont.styles module [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/386204 (owner: 10Esanders) [04:31:20] (03PS3) 10Krinkle: Depend on new mediawiki.editfont.styles module [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/386204 (owner: 10Esanders) [04:31:30] (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 031] "Depends-On before Change-Id (fix build)" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/386204 (owner: 10Esanders) [07:46:40] 10VisualEditor: Provide easy interface for manipulating/replacements of ve Document - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106996#3739861 (10Strainu) I put in the proposal at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2017_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Bots_and_gadgets/Provide_easy_interface_for_manipulating/replacements_in_the_... [09:51:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Re-use a citation isn't finding citations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179870#3738797 (10Schnark) The search seems only to take the number and the `name` attribute (if it has one) of the reference into consideration. Yes, searching the content of the... [09:56:13] 10Cite: Separate reference page for glossaries, bibliographies, etc - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T12092#3740392 (10MarcoAurelio) [10:32:09] 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Liaisons, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10User-Ladsgroup: Change VE tabs default preferences to multitab in fawiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154070#3740487 (10Elitre) Hi, thanks for your note. I dug a bit to find out that what we meant to investigate in the first place w... [10:35:59] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-06-27_(1.30.0-wmf.7)), 10Patch-For-Review: NWE: Categories, language links and indicators are missing in preview - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153534#3740495 (10Elitre) Actually categories seem to b... [10:40:32] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Categories title appear in blue in preview, even when the description page hasn't been created - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179913#3740513 (10Elitre) [10:41:13] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Category title appears in blue in preview, even when the description page hasn't been created - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179913#3740517 (10Elitre) [11:21:26] 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Liaisons (Oct-Dec 2017), 10User-Ryasmeen: Second phase of centralisation of VE user feedback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162664#3740613 (10Elitre) Wikidata [[ https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Project_chat&oldid=587906928#Redirects | doesn't seem interes... [12:10:24] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MediaWiki-Gallery, 10Multimedia: Images in galleries are scaled up, instead of being re-fetched at the correct size - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151551#3740724 (10Aklapper) Dup of / related to T15214 ? [12:47:48] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Copying (Ctrl+C) with no text selected shouldn't remove contents of clipboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179920#3740810 (10Kaartic) [13:02:35] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor should handle connections dying more gracefully (and not cache errors) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173867#3740856 (10Deskana) [13:02:50] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor should handle connections dying more gracefully (and not cache errors) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173867#3542707 (10Deskana) [13:02:53] 10VisualEditor: Error handling in preview: request not retried - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179785#3740861 (10Deskana) [13:14:19] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Visual Editor removing whitespace from infoboxes by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179259#3740880 (10Deskana) >>! In T179259#3730216, @cscott wrote: > Another middle ground might be to always respect the original argument order (ignoring templatedata), while still honor... [13:18:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs: Remember previous choice of visual/wikitext diff for next edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178691#3740882 (10Deskana) >>! In T178691#3735436, @Esanders wrote: >> we can avoid adding yet another user preference > > Of course if we persist it in the database... [13:18:59] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs: Remember previous choice of visual/wikitext diff for next edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178691#3740883 (10Deskana) [13:34:20] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor (Citoid?) inserts Special:BookSources links when ISBN is added - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174303#3740908 (10Deskana) >>! In T174303#3737730, @Jonesey95 wrote: > This is still happening, and gnomes need to clean up every time it happens. Can you please fix it? Here's one of... [14:25:01] 10Cite: Allow s from multiple pages to be collected into one on another page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T17070#3741113 (10Nemo_bis) [14:25:05] 10Cite: Separate reference page for glossaries, bibliographies, etc - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T12092#3741115 (10Nemo_bis) [15:00:06] 10VisualEditor: Most references lost when saving - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179633#3741390 (10Halibutt) @Deskana Browser is Firefox x64, latest version at the moment of writing (updated to 56.0.2 since then), Windows 10 x64. Beta: Edit Review Improvements, Two column edit conflict, Content translatio... [15:35:41] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Do nothing if selection is empty on wikitext surface [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389724 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179920) [15:42:20] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Re-use a citation isn't finding citations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179870#3738797 (10Esanders) This is probably a jQuery 3 async regression... [15:54:57] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Visual Editor removing whitespace from infoboxes by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179259#3741618 (10cscott) >>! In T179259#3735895, @EEng wrote: > You idea that "Perhaps the editor community who works on creating templatedata specifications could also write a bot which... [15:57:46] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Re-use a citation isn't finding citations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179870#3741619 (10Esanders) I've gone back to the creation of PreviewWidget, and it looks like it never actually used the CE rendering, which we assumed it did: https://github.com... [16:04:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Re-use a citation isn't finding citations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179870#3741641 (10Esanders) The connection to PreviewWidget (now PreviewElement), is that the index is built by creating previews of each reference and running them through jQuery... [16:04:08] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Actually use the CE node while waiting for the DM render [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389729 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179870) [16:04:17] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Regression: Re-use a citation isn't finding citations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179870#3741646 (10Esanders) [16:09:37] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: ce.MWWikitextSurface#onCopy: Do nothing if selection is empty [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389724 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179920) (owner: 10Esanders) [16:09:46] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] ce.MWWikitextSurface#onCopy: Do nothing if selection is empty [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389724 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179920) (owner: 10Esanders) [16:12:37] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 031] Depend on new mediawiki.editfont.styles module [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/386204 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:18:22] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: ce.MWWikitextSurface#onCopy: Do nothing if selection is empty [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389724 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179920) (owner: 10Esanders) [16:19:49] (03CR) 10Esanders: Use position:sticky for floating toolbar when supported (032 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/384579 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:21:48] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: ce.MWWikitextSurface#onCopy: Do nothing if selection is empty [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389724 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179920) (owner: 10Esanders) [16:25:44] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Depend on new mediawiki.editfont.styles module [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/386204 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:31:27] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Visual Editor removing whitespace from infoboxes by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179259#3741747 (10EEng) No doubt the Germanic love of order and regimentation plays a role in that. More seriously... I should have been more specific: no such bot would ever be approved... [16:32:44] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Depend on new mediawiki.editfont.styles module [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/386204 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:34:27] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Depend on new mediawiki.editfont.styles module [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/386204 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:35:42] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor should handle connections dying more gracefully (and not cache errors) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173867#3741769 (10jberkel) Would just like to add that it's not just dying connections, but all sorts of backend errors (timeouts etc). Anyway, I've been hitting this bug more... [16:44:30] 10VisualEditor: Undoing after indenting a bullet/numbered list throws error "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'getSurface' of null" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179750#3734865 (10DLynch) I can't persuade this to happen with the reproduction steps given. More details? [17:21:22] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: ce.ContentBranchNode: onTeardown, check if we have a root [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/386419 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179574) (owner: 10DLynch) [17:23:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-DataModel: data-ve-clipboard-key attribute added in wikitable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121588#1883127 (10DLynch) Reproduction note: we only add the `data-ve-clipboard-key` span in browsers which don't support [clipboardData custom data form... [17:40:27] (03PS1) 10DLynch: ce.Surface: on paste, make sure clipboardKey spans don't show up [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389750 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121588) [17:53:01] (03CR) 10DLynch: "Note: the actual "destruction" seemed to mostly be removing the `id="mwAg"` type of Parsoid attributes. This may be desired, since it lead" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389750 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121588) (owner: 10DLynch) [17:58:19] Is there a ticket around somewhere for that cross-document paste Parsoid id corruption? [17:59:44] Well, collision more than corruption. [18:07:15] (03CR) 10DLynch: "I do agree with Bartosz' concern about having two paths to test for this code now, making it much easier for us to not notice problematic " [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/384579 (owner: 10Esanders) [18:53:16] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-11-14 (1.31.0-wmf.8)), 10User-Ryasmeen: Copying (Ctrl+C) with no text selected shouldn't remove contents of clipboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179920#3742318 (10Jdfor... [19:23:34] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Visual Editor removing whitespace from infoboxes by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179259#3718435 (10Alsee) A lot of the discussion here is appears to be missing the point. As it see it, the issue is fairly simple: Dirty diffs are bad in general. In this case, scrambli... [19:55:25] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Category title appears in blue in preview, even when the description page hasn't been created - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179913#3740500 (10Dvorapa) Related: T153535 [20:38:39] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Actually use the CE node while waiting for the DM render [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389729 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179870) (owner: 10Esanders) [20:41:36] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Actually use the CE node while waiting for the DM render [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389729 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179870) (owner: 10Esanders) [20:52:58] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Actually use the CE node while waiting for the DM render [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389729 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179870) (owner: 10Esanders) [21:02:45] 10VisualEditor: Undoing after indenting a bullet/numbered list throws error "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'getSurface' of null" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179750#3742751 (10Ryasmeen) [21:05:44] 10VisualEditor: Undoing after indenting a bullet/numbered list throws error "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'getSurface' of null" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179750#3742770 (10Ryasmeen) >>! In T179750#3741796, @DLynch wrote: > I can't persuade this to happen with the reproduction steps given.... [21:07:02] 10VisualEditor: Undoing after indenting a bullet/numbered list throws error "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'getSurface' of null" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179750#3742772 (10Ryasmeen) [21:15:09] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser, 10Epic, 10Patch-For-Review: Pre-save transform skips extensions using wikitext (gallery, references, footnotes, Cite, status indicators, pipe trick, subst, signatures) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T4700#3742802 (10Thryduulf) Am I correct in thinking that {{subst:CURRENTMO... [21:19:33] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser, 10Epic, 10Patch-For-Review: Pre-save transform skips extensions using wikitext (gallery, references, footnotes, Cite, status indicators, pipe trick, subst, signatures) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T4700#3742812 (10XanonymusX) Yes, substituting within refs won't work if th... [22:04:30] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389863 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [22:10:15] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Parsoid, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-11-14 (1.31.0-wmf.8)): Auto-generated list can't be moved in VE. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153754#3742942 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:03DLynch [22:13:22] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Parsoid, and 2 others: Auto-generated list can't be moved in VE. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153754#3742961 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved [22:56:27] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update OOjs UI to v0.24.2 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389885 [23:01:37] (03CR) 10VolkerE: [C: 032] Update OOjs UI to v0.24.2 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389885 (owner: 10Jforrester) [23:05:51] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update OOjs UI to v0.24.2 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389885 (owner: 10Jforrester) [23:06:32] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Copy-pasting linked ISBN numbers from view mode HTML into VisualEditor inserts wikitext links to Special:BookSources (it should turn them into magic links?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174303#3743059 (10matmarex) [23:06:58] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Copy-pasting linked ISBN numbers from view mode HTML into VisualEditor inserts wikitext links to Special:BookSources (it should turn them into magic links?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174303#3557412 (10matmarex) 05stalled>03Open... [23:21:19] 10VisualEditor: Page does not scroll to correct position when doing find and replace while a focusable node is selected - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179993#3743109 (10Ryasmeen) [23:24:01] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Link to action=edit of a specific revision shows current revision in NWE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179994#3743128 (10MusikAnimal) [23:26:53] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror: CodeMirror on NWE: pasting problems from one surface to another - line size? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175961#3743147 (10MaxSem) [23:38:26] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Update OOjs UI to v0.24.2 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389885 (owner: 10Jforrester) [23:51:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror: Use NWE + CodeMirror for JS/CSS pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170129#3743199 (10Niharika) p:05Normal>03Low [23:56:36] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror, 10User-Ryasmeen: Investigation: CodeMirror + New WikiText Editor syncing issues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161052#3743243 (10Niharika) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Niharika No compla... [23:59:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror: CodeMirror on NWE: pasting problems from one surface to another - line size? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175961#3743260 (10Niharika) p:05Triage>03Low