[00:04:48] <wikibugs>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (2ac0e8b0c) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408721 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121347)
[00:06:15] <wikibugs>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add trailing linebreak to NWE's temporary wikitext editor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407499 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185632) (owner: 10Esanders)
[00:18:03] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10Technical-Debt: Abstract more selection handling by selection type - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121347#3951140 (10Jdforrester-WMF) With that merged, there are still 30 `instanceof` calls in ve.ce.Surface.js. How many is "done"?
[00:18:53] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10Patch-For-Review: Extending backwards selection beyond top of viewport doesn't scroll correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186472#3951146 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Normal a:03Esanders
[00:37:46] <wikibugs>	 (03PS1) 10VolkerE: Update OOUI to v0.25.2 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408727
[00:38:59] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Add trailing linebreak to NWE's temporary wikitext editor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407499 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185632) (owner: 10Esanders)
[00:39:33] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Update OOUI to v0.25.2 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408727 (owner: 10VolkerE)
[00:40:17] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10User-Ryasmeen: No trailing newline in temporary wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185632#3951205 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved p:05Triage>03Normal a:03Esanders
[00:45:29] <wikibugs>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update OOUI to v0.25.2 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408727 (owner: 10VolkerE)
[00:47:16] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Update OOUI to v0.25.2 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408727 (owner: 10VolkerE)
[00:55:46] <wikibugs>	 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10User-Ryasmeen: Create shortcut/alias for aligned parameter style in TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186632#3951229 (10Alsee) Is there a reason this is a  subtask of T179259? They both involve working on the same region of code, but the tasks ar...
[01:16:18] <wikibugs>	 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10User-Ryasmeen: Create shortcut/alias for aligned parameter style in TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186632#3951283 (10kaldari) I made it a subtask since it is designed to mitigate the effects of T179259, but doesn't entirely solve the issue.
[01:44:38] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Should be safe to merge now." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/405829 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185544) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[02:03:50] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (2ac0e8b0c) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408721 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121347) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[02:15:00] <wikibugs>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (2ac0e8b0c) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408721 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121347) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[02:16:49] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (2ac0e8b0c) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408721 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121347) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[09:08:18] <wikibugs>	 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10User-Ryasmeen: Create shortcut/alias for aligned parameter style in TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186632#3951773 (10Alsee) @kaldari it doesn't mitigate T179259 at all. It is as likely to //increase// dirty diffs as to reduce them, and it does...
[09:08:59] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10User-Ryasmeen: Visual Editor removing whitespace from infoboxes by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179259#3951775 (10Alsee)
[09:09:02] <wikibugs>	 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10User-Ryasmeen: Create shortcut/alias for aligned parameter style in TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186632#3951774 (10Alsee)
[10:47:27] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10Services (done), 10User-Ryasmeen: TypeError thrown and prevented citation of any website which contained multiple dublinCore identifiers, multiple bePress dois, or multiple highwirePress dois - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186395#3951909 (10Mvolz)
[10:51:33] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs: Remove added 15px of left margin from historical visual diffs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186636#3950168 (10Esanders) The padding is for showing the move markers: {F13186227}  In the historical diffs there is already a margin, so we should apply a negative m...
[10:59:28] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs: Remove added 15px of left margin from historical visual diffs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186636#3951945 (10Esanders) Removing the margin would be a problem in Monobook though: {F13186510}  These left margin markers may not exist after the next design iterat...
[11:02:06] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs: Remove added 15px of left margin from historical visual diffs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186636#3951962 (10Esanders) We could also track if there were any moves at all and only show the margin in those cases, similar to what we do with the right sidebar.
[11:21:28] <wikibugs>	 (03PS1) 10Esanders: DiffElement: Only show left margin if moves present [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408779 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186636)
[14:35:37] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: The insert menu in VE is awkward - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135099#3952589 (10jeblad) 05stalled>03Invalid
[14:36:31] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Revert "Workaround missing child selector in OOUI for menuLayout" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/405829 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185544) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:40:41] <wikibugs>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Revert "Workaround missing child selector in OOUI for menuLayout" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/405829 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185544) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:43:20] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Revert "Workaround missing child selector in OOUI for menuLayout" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/405829 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185544) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:47:54] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Patch-For-Review: Implement $.textSelection's encapsulateSelection in NWE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185917#3952631 (10Esanders) (NB there is another textSelection implementation in CodeMirror that is 90% encapsulateSelection)
[14:49:10] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: [feature request] User scenario to fix old raw references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179773#3952656 (10jeblad) Yes, but it is still very awkward to do the remaining updates.
[14:51:46] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 04-1] "Per James" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408466 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185917) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:56:15] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: Block duplicate parameter names when editing existing parameters (032 comments) [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407470 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166520) (owner: 10DLynch)
[15:05:06] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10I18n, 10RTL, 10Upstream: thgir sevom worra tfel+tfihs | shift+left arrow moves right - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186265#3952751 (10Esanders)
[15:07:50] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10I18n, 10RTL, 10Upstream: thgir sevom worra tfel+tfihs | shift+left arrow moves right - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186265#3952755 (10Esanders) 05Open>03declined We deliberately (and a great expense) defer to the browser for cursor movement.
[15:19:54] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown: MediaWiki's feedback tool interface is confusing, and may make it unclear how to submit reports - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100011#3952782 (10Elitre)
[16:05:17] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10Patch-For-Review: Remove added 15px of left margin from historical visual diffs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186636#3952927 (10TheDJ) I like that solution Ed ! nice work.
[17:09:51] <wikibugs>	 (03PS3) 10DLynch: Block duplicate parameter names when editing existing parameters [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407470 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166520)
[18:08:05] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor toolbar overlaps with Minerva header - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186735#3953467 (10Jdlrobson)
[18:08:30] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor toolbar overlaps with Minerva header - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186735#3953493 (10Jdlrobson)
[18:51:25] <wikibugs>	 (03PS3) 10Jforrester: build: Move PHP files to expected paths [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408332
[18:51:27] <wikibugs>	 (03PS4) 10Jforrester: phpcs: Don't try to be smart about excluding VE, it doesn't work [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408333
[18:53:10] <wikibugs>	 (03PS2) 10Jforrester: ve.ui.MWWikitextSurface: Remove unnecessary textSelection 'encapsulateSelection' override [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408466 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185917) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[18:53:16] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] ve.ui.MWWikitextSurface: Remove unnecessary textSelection 'encapsulateSelection' override [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408466 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185917) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[18:54:22] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ve.ui.MWWikitextSurface: Remove unnecessary textSelection 'encapsulateSelection' override [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408466 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185917) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[18:54:36] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] ve.ui.MWWikitextSurface: Remove unnecessary textSelection 'encapsulateSelection' override [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408466 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185917) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[19:48:51] <wikibugs>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Revert "Use wgEditSubmitButtonLabelPublish from upstream" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408860
[19:48:58] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Revert "Use wgEditSubmitButtonLabelPublish from upstream" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408860 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[19:52:53] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Switching from 2010 WTE (e.g. edit conflict) to VE and then to 2017 WTE throws a JS fatal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186743#3953875 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:52:57] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Switching from 2010 WTE (e.g. edit conflict) to VE and then to 2017 WTE throws a JS fatal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186744#3953885 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:57:29] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-02-13 (1.31.0-wmf.21)), 10User-Ryasmeen: Extending backwards selection beyond top of viewport doesn't scroll correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186472#3953919 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved
[19:58:17] <wikibugs>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Revert "Use wgEditSubmitButtonLabelPublish from upstream" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408860 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[19:59:24] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] DiffElement: Only show left margin if moves present [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408779 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186636) (owner: 10Esanders)
[20:00:01] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Revert "Use wgEditSubmitButtonLabelPublish from upstream" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408860 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[20:00:13] <wikibugs>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Revert "Use wgEditSubmitButtonLabelPublish from upstream" [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.31.0-wmf.20) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408861
[20:01:51] <wikibugs>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: DiffElement: Only show left margin if moves present [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408779 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186636) (owner: 10Esanders)
[20:03:39] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: DiffElement: Only show left margin if moves present [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408779 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186636) (owner: 10Esanders)
[20:08:51] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Block duplicate parameter names when editing existing parameters [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407470 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166520) (owner: 10DLynch)
[20:14:17] <wikibugs>	 (03PS1) 10Esanders: Assume wpTextbox1 has an API registered already [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408865 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186743)
[20:15:25] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Patch-For-Review: Switching from 2010 WTE (e.g. edit conflict) to VE and then to 2017 WTE throws a JS fatal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186743#3953875 (10Esanders) We don't unload the 2010 editor at all...
[20:16:49] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Patch-For-Review: Switching from 2010 WTE (e.g. edit conflict) to VE and then to 2017 WTE throws a JS fatal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186743#3953995 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T186743#3953977, @Esanders wrote: > We don't unload the 201...
[20:18:06] <wikibugs>	 (03PS3) 10Esanders: Show diffs for references lists in place [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408227 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183118) (owner: 10Tchanders)
[20:22:07] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Assume wpTextbox1 has an API registered already [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408865 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186743) (owner: 10Esanders)
[20:25:59] <wikibugs>	 (03PS4) 10Jforrester: build: Bring SVGO optimization to 'ci' step [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407189 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185596) (owner: 10VolkerE)
[20:26:33] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] build: Bring SVGO optimization to 'ci' step [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407189 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185596) (owner: 10VolkerE)
[20:29:28] <wikibugs>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Bring SVGO optimization to 'ci' step [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407189 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185596) (owner: 10VolkerE)
[20:29:30] <wikibugs>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Assume wpTextbox1 has an API registered already [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408865 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186743) (owner: 10Esanders)
[20:29:58] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Switching from 2010 WTE (e.g. edit conflict) to VE and then to 2017 WTE throws a JS fatal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186744#3954007 (10Esanders)
[20:30:01] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Patch-For-Review: Switching from 2010 WTE (e.g. edit conflict) to VE and then to 2017 WTE throws a JS fatal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186743#3954009 (10Esanders)
[20:31:14] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Assume wpTextbox1 has an API registered already [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408865 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186743) (owner: 10Esanders)
[20:31:16] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: build: Bring SVGO optimization to 'ci' step [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407189 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185596) (owner: 10VolkerE)
[20:31:56] <wikibugs>	 (03PS4) 10Jforrester: build: Move PHP files to expected paths [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408332
[20:31:58] <wikibugs>	 (03PS5) 10Jforrester: phpcs: Don't try to be smart about excluding VE, it doesn't work [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408333
[20:33:22] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: LinkContextItem: add a button to select the entire label (032 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272510 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124305) (owner: 10DLynch)
[21:13:08] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10VolkerE: "Excited about this, just for understanding: Why is 'ci' preferred?" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407189 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185596) (owner: 10VolkerE)
[21:19:17] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] ""By adding this to the 'ci' step, it won't slow down regular development," [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407189 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185596) (owner: 10VolkerE)
[21:21:02] <wikibugs>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Assume wpTextbox1 has an API registered already [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.31.0-wmf.20) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408924 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186743)
[21:26:18] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408918 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[22:05:46] <wikibugs>	 (03PS3) 10Jforrester: build: Use SVGO option of 'grunt-image' [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407184 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185596) (owner: 10VolkerE)
[22:06:34] <wikibugs>	 (03PS4) 10Jforrester: build: Use SVGO option of 'grunt-image' [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407184 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185596) (owner: 10VolkerE)
[22:07:21] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: build: Use SVGO option of 'grunt-image' (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407184 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185596) (owner: 10VolkerE)
[22:07:42] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] build: Use SVGO option of 'grunt-image' [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407184 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185596) (owner: 10VolkerE)
[22:22:39] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10StructuredDiscussions: Broken section links in VE in StructuredDiscussions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186088#3933316 (10Catrope) Does this happen in a "normal" VisualEditor instance (when editing an article) too, or only in SD?
[22:23:14] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10StructuredDiscussions: Broken section links in VE in StructuredDiscussions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186088#3954323 (10Catrope) Also what Elena said sounds like it's actually correct behavior: the href of the link is correct.
[22:39:30] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: "This should wait for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/408604/" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/408227 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183118) (owner: 10Tchanders)
[23:16:17] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Design: Have Show preview and Review your changes more directly accessible in the New Wikitext Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153306#3954464 (10Alsee) Adding [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:U77456xp6560xxv9 | another complain...