[00:07:36] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-23_(1.30.0-wmf.2)), 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): VisualDiffs: Add custom messages for reference changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T160589#3994870 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:05Tchanders>0... [00:08:00] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-23_(1.30.0-wmf.2)), 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): VisualDiffs: Add custom messages for reference changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T160589#3104489 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Only one, pretty t... [01:20:54] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Simplify 2017 wikitext editor config when Beta Features is enabled [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413656 [01:20:56] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Make it possible for wikis to have the 2017 wikitext editor by default [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413657 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150578) [01:21:57] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 04-2] "Id12e08f9dca0a66 needs to be deployed before this is merged." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413656 (owner: 10Jforrester) [01:24:55] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Create a config option to enable NWE by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150578#3995034 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:03Jdforrester-WMF [01:25:18] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Deploy the 2017 wikitext mode as the default editing environment for all users at office.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188028#3995036 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:03Jdforrester-WMF [01:30:54] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Simplify 2017 wikitext editor config when Beta Features is enabled [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413656 (owner: 10Jforrester) [01:31:18] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make it possible for wikis to have the 2017 wikitext editor by default [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413657 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150578) (owner: 10Jforrester) [01:34:53] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 04-2] "Eurgh, sucky CI, sucky." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413656 (owner: 10Jforrester) [01:49:00] 10Editing-team, 10CodeEditor: add immediate save button to CodeEditor (live editing) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188063#3995088 (10Gryllida) [04:28:24] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Text on category page is invisible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188069#3995238 (10Anon126) [04:31:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Text on category page is invisible when syntax highlighting is enabled - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188069#3995249 (10Anon126) [04:39:43] 10Editing-team, 10CodeEditor: add immediate save button to CodeEditor (live editing) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188063#3995088 (10MZMcBride) This sounds similar to . [04:53:28] 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Cutting and pasting some text on one article emits JS error and doesn't let you save - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187690#3995263 (10Kerry_Raymond) How about a button on the VE that takes a screenshot (or better still a Start/Stop recording) so y... [10:45:59] 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-02-27 (1.31.0-wmf.23)), 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Invalid diff mode should be ignored - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173400#3995786 (10Deskana) 05Open>03Resolved [11:24:23] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Text on category page is invisible when syntax highlighting is enabled - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188069#3995238 (10TheDJ) Confirmed. Suspect this is somehow due to differences in the views between the normal Category view, and the parsoid... [11:51:51] 10VisualEditor: Bug in Basque Wikipedia Visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187699#3995978 (10Deskana) @inaki-ll I'm really sorry, and I genuinely don't mean to be rude, but again I need to repeat my last two requests: please provide me with specific reproduction steps to show me how to recreate t... [11:53:37] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413606 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [13:46:06] (03CR) 10Esanders: ve.dm.Change: Allow unsafe deserialization (032 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413455 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:02:45] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10User-Ryasmeen: After Citoid looks up doi, links to WP becomes red in preview - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95986#3996515 (10Deskana) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Deskana No longer reproducible. This was probably fixed a while ago. {F13971115} [16:08:08] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 10Technical-Debt: Write tests for ve.dm.APIResultsProvider - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95416#3996528 (10Deskana) 05Open>03declined [16:14:32] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata.org: VisualEditor does not work well on Wikidata:Project chat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91252#3996537 (10Deskana) p:05Low>03Lowest Editing discussion pages with the visual editor is not officially supported. [16:16:26] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10User-Ryasmeen: Cursor positioned too high (like superscript) when adding new item to numbered list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86928#3996552 (10Deskana) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Deskana {F13971625} [16:19:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: On mobile, Skeirs font for Gothic only show blocks in Categories; typing in Gothic on Android shows latin letters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184275#3996560 (10Deskana) p:05Low>03Lowest [16:21:18] 10VisualEditor: Some VE system message keys shown after MW upgrade - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180358#3996563 (10Deskana) 05Open>03Invalid This issue could not be reproduced. [16:25:13] 10VisualEditor, 10MobileFrontend, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Difficulty appealing deletion requests from mobile device - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174418#3996575 (10Deskana) p:05Triage>03Lowest [16:26:03] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10WikiEditor, 10Design: WikiEditor's Search and Replace icon is very similar to VisualEditor's "Switch to visual editing button", which is right next to it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143508#3996579 (10Deskana) p:05Low>03Lowest [16:27:06] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 10UI-Standardization, 10Design: Use consistent icons for same/similar functions between editors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91467#3996594 (10Deskana) [16:27:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10WikiEditor, 10Design: WikiEditor's Search and Replace icon is very similar to VisualEditor's "Switch to visual editing button", which is right next to it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143508#2570100 (10Deskana) 05Open>03declined I highly doubt that eit... [16:28:12] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Page-Banner, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Parsoid has no special handling for the properties set by WikidataPageBanner - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107941#3996597 (10Deskana) p:05Normal>03Lowest [16:28:48] 10VisualEditor: Please generate a list of Most referenced domains on the German Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108689#3996600 (10Deskana) 05Open>03declined [16:30:53] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: TemplateData: Add a tracking category to all templates that don't have a TemplateData block - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72242#3996620 (10Deskana) p:05High>03Lowest [16:31:07] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: TemplateData: Implement hook for extensions to document magic words and parser functions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54607#3996622 (10Deskana) p:05High>03Lowest [16:34:39] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor Edit bar font size issue in 1.25 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104903#3996628 (10Deskana) 05Open>03declined If anyone's still having this issue then I recommend upgrading. 1.25 is very old now. [16:35:28] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10Patch-For-Review: When inserting an image, set its caption by default to be the Commons image description - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53032#3996630 (10Deskana) p:05Normal>03Lowest [16:38:23] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Citoid's behavior with Wikipedia links is unhelpful (maybe broken) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95390#3996649 (10Deskana) p:05Normal>03Lowest [16:40:31] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Toolbar scrolling off the screen on longer articles, possibly due to touch-screen environment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55550#3996656 (10Deskana) 05Open>03Invalid [16:41:49] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10User-Ryasmeen: VisualEditor: Floated node's action icon (e.g. for template) appearing in wrong location, relative to its initial position, not its actual position - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54547#3996661 (10Deskana) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Deskan... [16:47:18] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10Design: VisualEditor: Find a way to make the link button is more discoverable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71364#3996675 (10Deskana) 05Open>03declined The link button is prominent enough. I do not agree that making it more prominent would be a good i... [16:49:25] 10VisualEditor, 10Technical-Debt: VisualEditor: Merge the media editing and gallery editing dialogs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64677#3996680 (10Deskana) 05Open>03declined >>! In T64677#2710576, @Tchanders wrote: > I suspect the real problem is that the media dialog is more mature, so a better sol... [16:51:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Suggestions list should not be cropped to the dialog they're in, but to the document - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76235#3996691 (10Deskana) 05Open>03Invalid This can no longer be reproduced. [16:57:50] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-07-25_(1.30.0-wmf.11)), 10User-Ryasmeen, and 3 others: Allow editing of image captions in place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149753#3996723 (10Deskana) [16:57:52] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: Make image captions directly editable in the main surface, without going into a dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76552#3996725 (10Deskana) [17:00:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10Browser-Support-Google-Chrome: VisualEditor: "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'getSurface' of null" when applying a heading format on citation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72888#3996733 (10Deskana) 05Open>03Invalid This three year old task w... [17:04:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-LanguageTool, 10Contributors-Team, 10Language-Team, and 2 others: Unified language proofing tools integration framework - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89107#3996739 (10Deskana) p:05High>03Lowest [17:05:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: Unable to remove bold and italic formatting from pastes of external sources - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101212#3996742 (10Deskana) 05Open>03Invalid Neither of these issues can be reproduced any more. [17:13:47] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-LabeledSectionTransclusion: Labelled section transclusion appears incorrectly, but only for user that added it and only immediately after it is added - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172607#3996782 (10Deskana) p:05Low>... [17:13:58] 10VisualEditor: Don't show links that I can't click on in the title area - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171783#3996785 (10Deskana) p:05Low>03Lowest [17:14:15] 10VisualEditor: Trying to force the visual editor to load on a talk page whilst logged out causes the welcome dialogue to have no buttons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176125#3996787 (10Deskana) p:05Low>03Lowest [17:15:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Disambiguator, 10Easy: In the "Page Settings" menu, "This is a disambiguation page" is not adequately explained to the user - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187116#3996790 (10Deskana) p:05Low>03Lowest [17:17:15] 10VisualEditor, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10StructuredDiscussions, 10JavaScript: "TypeError: cur is null" in jQuery - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112879#3996807 (10Deskana) 05Open>03Invalid This can no longer be reproduced. [17:18:41] 10VisualEditor, 10Contributors-Team, 10MobileFrontend, 10Mobile, and 2 others: Make mobile web editor use edit stashing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137338#3996822 (10Deskana) p:05High>03Low [17:19:36] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: TempateData: Provide a way to list all documented (and undocumented) templates on a wiki (beyond Special:PagesWithProp/templatedata) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52368#3996823 (10Deskana) p:05High>03Lowest [17:19:58] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 10VisualEditor-Performance: Reduce VisualEditor's memory usage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55825#3996835 (10Deskana) p:05High>03Low [17:20:50] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media: Move media to top level icon on toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90299#3996836 (10Deskana) 05Open>03declined [17:28:56] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror: CodeMirror & 2017 Wikitext editor on OSX/Firefox sometimes doesn't 'Replace all' correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188119#3996861 (10TBolliger) [17:30:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 10Technical-Debt: Write tests for ve.dm.APIResultsProvider - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95416#3996875 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:46:50] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Performance, 10Documentation: Document coding patterns followed to help Javascript optimisation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155021#3997387 (10Deskana) p:05Normal>03Low [19:49:13] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10ProofreadPage: [Page: pages] Default header and footer from Index: pages are not preloaded in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139985#3997404 (10Deskana) p:05High>03Normal [19:56:26] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror: CodeMirror & 2017 Wikitext editor on OSX/Firefox sometimes doesn't 'Replace all' correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188119#3996861 (10Perhelion) I use Chrome 63 on Windows 7 x64. [20:28:26] (03PS3) 10Esanders: ve.dm.Change: Allow unsafe deserialization [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413455 [20:28:28] (03PS3) 10Esanders: ve.dm.Change: Serialize empty stores to null [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413475 [20:31:06] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ve.dm.Change: Serialize empty stores to null [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413475 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:52:46] 10VisualEditor: Intermittent "Error loading data from server" error using VE in Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187951#3997521 (10Capt_Swing) Thanks, @Deskana. I'll do that. Also, FWIW this occurred for me repeatedly on Chrome (Version 64.0.3282.167 (Official Build) (64-bit)) yesterday as well. How... [20:53:00] 10VisualEditor: Intermittent "Error loading data from server" error using VE in Firefox and Chrome - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187951#3997522 (10Capt_Swing) [21:28:55] 10VisualEditor, 10TemplateStyles: VisualEditor does not like TemplateStyles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188143#3997644 (10Nirmos) [21:31:35] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: TemplateData: Add a tracking category to all templates that don't have a TemplateData block - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72242#3997662 (10Krinkle) >>! In T72242#991276, @Amire80 wrote: > ... It is related to T87444, which was merged here as a... [22:06:53] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413875 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [22:19:40] (03PS4) 10Esanders: ve.dm.Change: Serialize empty stores to null [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413475 [22:23:46] _ _ _ _ _ _ _______ _______ _______ _______ [22:23:54] ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( \ ( \ ( ___ )( )( ___ )( ____ \ [22:24:01] _| |_| |_ _| |_| |_ | ( | ( | ( ) || () () || ( ) || ( \/ [22:24:10] (_ _ _)(_ _ _)| | | | | (___) || || || || (___) || (_____ [22:24:14] _| (_) |_ _| (_) |_ | | | | | ___ || |(_)| || ___ |(_____ ) [22:24:16] (_ _ _)(_ _ _)| | | | | ( ) || | | || ( ) | ) | [22:24:18] | | | | | | | | | (____/\| (____/\| ) ( || ) ( || ) ( |/\____) | [22:24:19] (_) (_) (_) (_) (_______/(_______/|/ \||/ \||/ \|\_______) [22:24:20] ##LLAMAS [22:24:25] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] ve.dm.Change: Serialize empty stores to null [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413475 (owner: 10Esanders) [22:24:30] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] ve.dm.Change: Allow unsafe deserialization [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413455 (owner: 10Esanders) [22:24:57] (03CR) 10Esanders: SessionStorage: Return booleans for setters (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413627 (owner: 10Esanders) [22:26:21] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] SessionStorage: Return booleans for setters [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413627 (owner: 10Esanders) [22:29:10] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: SessionStorage: Return booleans for setters [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413627 (owner: 10Esanders) [22:31:20] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: SessionStorage: Return booleans for setters [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413627 (owner: 10Esanders) [22:37:21] 10VisualEditor, 10StructuredDiscussions, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-This-Quarter), 10User-MarcoAurelio: Flow with VE breaks when trying to insert links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172634#3997912 (10matmarex) [22:40:40] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-deletion, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-Page-protection, and 2 others: Update web UI for increased comment length - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185948#3997936 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:43:39] 10VisualEditor, 10TemplateStyles: VisualEditor does not like TemplateStyles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188143#3997644 (10Tgr) Does this happen when you change the parameters of a template that uses templatestyles? Or on any edit to a page containing such a template? [22:55:54] 10VisualEditor, 10TemplateStyles: VisualEditor does not like TemplateStyles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188143#3998046 (10Nirmos) No, I did not try to edit the template call with VE. I just changed "febsdfsdfsdfruari" to "febsdfsdfsdfrsdfsdfsdfuari" in https://sv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=42504675 [22:58:49] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10TemplateStyles: VisualEditor does not like TemplateStyles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188143#3998048 (10Tgr) p:05Triage>03High [23:03:46] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10TemplateStyles: VisualEditor does not like TemplateStyles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188143#3998062 (10Tgr) Parsoid translates the wikitext to ```

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