[00:45:46] 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Copy-pasting section headings emits JS error and doesn't let you save - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187690#4052232 (10matmarex) 05Open>03Resolved The patch is live on all non-Wikipedia wikis now, and will reach Wikipedias tomorrow, per the usu... [00:46:38] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-20 (1.31.0-wmf.26)), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Find out why a tag are causing edits to get mangled - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189118#4052236 (10matmarex) 05Open>03Resolved The patch is live on all non-Wikipedia... [00:49:00] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-13 (1.31.0-wmf.25)), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Invisible templates are unexpectedly large - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189267#4052244 (10matmarex) 05Open>03Resolved The fix is live on all Wikimedia wikis now. [00:57:23] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-20 (1.31.0-wmf.26)), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Clear VE autosave when making changes in 2010 editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189381#4052256 (10matmarex) 05Open>03Resolved The fixes are live on all Wi... [00:57:57] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-20 (1.31.0-wmf.26)), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Close VE gracefully when the 'Article' tab is clicked, so that changes are not "recovered" when they shouldn't be - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189380#4052262 (10... [00:59:30] 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor: "Changes recovered: Your unsaved changes have been automatically recovered." - creates edit conflicts that are NOT detected and allows subsequent edits to be lost! - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189337#4052265 (10matmarex) >>! In T189337#4040440, @Esanders wrote: > Article ta... [01:01:13] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Hmm… Why is this not "always* a prompt?" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/419169 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:09:39] D J is my nickname [01:11:21] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 10Performance-Team, 10Patch-For-Review: safemode parameter doesn't work with VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185303#4052271 (10Krinkle) [01:11:42] I would like to add a comment to Lynyrd Skynrd plane crash [01:14:25] I'm watching a Documentary called Gone With The Wind The remarkable rise and tragic fall of Lynyrd Skynyrd [01:24:10] They say the reason the plane crashed, because the pilot put the landing gear down to early trying to land in a field but the trees got stuck in the landing gear and put the plane at a 45 degree angle and basically slammed the plane right into the earth. Told by the drummer of the band and a survivor from the crash. These are eye witness from the plane. [01:28:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 10Performance-Team, 10Patch-For-Review: safemode parameter doesn't work with VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185303#3912314 (10Krinkle) I'm going to evaluate the feasibility of addressing this from ResourceLoader's perspective... [01:28:57] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 10Performance-Team, 10Patch-For-Review: safemode parameter doesn't work with VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185303#4052294 (10Krinkle) a:05matmarex>03Krinkle [02:17:19] 10VisualEditor: Turn off switching between editing modes if access to LocalStorage is restricted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189572#4052302 (10jeblad) 05Open>03Invalid [02:58:16] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Community-Liaisons: Help some smaller Wikipedias' communities by writing the TemplateData and enabling citoid for them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127354#4052322 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) >>! In T127354#3949054, @Ivi104 wrote: >>>! In T12... [09:00:31] 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 10Chinese-Sites, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Annotation ordering is hazily defined in Transactions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188709#4052542 (10dchan) Well, it should improve such situations by giving us the precision to treat them all properly. H... [10:25:30] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 032] "Tested against beta and it works as expected." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/417739 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [10:32:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Use new version of commons_upload Ruby gem for language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/417739 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [10:34:18] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: build: Use new version of commons_upload Ruby gem for language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/417739 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [11:35:11] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Community-Liaisons, 10OOUI, 10Patch-For-Review: Change OOUI WikimediaUI theme to be optimized for font-size of 14px (0.875em×16px), instead of 12.8px (0.8em×16px), like MediaWiki's Vector skin - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97631#1248353 (10Trizek-WMF) Wi... [11:58:26] (03CR) 10Santhosh: "I just updated VE code in CX and CX stopped working." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/419145 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [12:06:37] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Community-Liaisons, 10OOUI, 10Patch-For-Review: Change OOUI WikimediaUI theme to be optimized for font-size of 14px (0.875em×16px), instead of 12.8px (0.8em×16px), like MediaWiki's Vector skin - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97631#4052869 (10Elitre) [13:27:30] 10VisualEditor: Unchecked lastError value: Error: Could not establish connection. Receiving end does not exist. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189748#4051726 (10matmarex) This error message does not come from VisualEditor. We don't have any code like that. From a quick Google search it appears to be some i... [13:29:21] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Design, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Have Show preview and Review your changes more directly accessible in the New Wikitext Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153306#4053092 (10Alsee) @Dvorapa, the proposed change doesn't fix the... [13:32:18] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Allow copy/paste of cell formatting in Visual Editor Tables - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189583#4053095 (10matmarex) [13:33:46] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Allow copy/paste of cell formatting in Visual Editor Tables - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189583#4046352 (10matmarex) VE only pastes the cell formatting that it understands and can edit – it will copy-paste the cell "type" (header vs content) and rowspan/colspan va... [13:43:07] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor: "Cannot read property 'node' of null" when editing table with merged rows (rowspan > 1) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189543#4045180 (10matmarex) Something freaky is going on, ve.dm.TableMatrix seems to think that some of that table's rows have 5 cells instead of 4. {F15505... [13:51:44] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: VisualEditor: "Cannot read property 'node' of null" when editing table with merged rows (rowspan > 1) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189543#4053130 (10matmarex) Seems to be caused by the comments like `` at the beginning of table rows. Simpl... [13:52:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: VisualEditor: "Cannot read property 'node' of null" when editing table with HTML comments between table cells - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189543#4053132 (10matmarex) [13:53:51] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Design, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Have Show preview and Review your changes more directly accessible in the New Wikitext Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153306#2952607 (10Deskana) I'm not convinced that this idea makes the... [13:55:15] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Design, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Have Show preview and Review your changes more directly accessible in the New Wikitext Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153306#4053135 (10Deskana) @alsee Your catastrophising isn't helping. [14:07:11] 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-06 (1.31.0-wmf.24)), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Small change to section header not displayed in historical visual diff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187913#4053163 (10matmarex) 05Open>03Resolved The patch was merged some d... [14:07:55] 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-06 (1.31.0-wmf.24)), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Small change to section header not displayed in historical visual diff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187913#4053169 (10Deskana) [14:38:27] 10VisualEditor: Unchecked lastError value: Error: Could not establish connection. Receiving end does not exist. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189748#4053231 (10Stryn) [14:38:29] 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Copy-pasting section headings emits JS error and doesn't let you save - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187690#4053234 (10Stryn) [14:45:04] 10VisualEditor, 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure (shipyard), 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-20 (1.31.0-wmf.26)), 10Patch-For-Review, and 3 others: Migrate language-screenshots-VisualEditor off of Nodepool to Docker containers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122#4053238 (10zeljkof... [14:55:03] 10VisualEditor, 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure (shipyard), 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-20 (1.31.0-wmf.26)), 10Patch-For-Review, and 3 others: Migrate language-screenshots-VisualEditor off of Nodepool to Docker containers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122#4053264 (10zeljkof... [15:10:01] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/419747 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [15:10:26] 10VisualEditor, 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure (shipyard), 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-20 (1.31.0-wmf.26)), 10Patch-For-Review, and 3 others: Migrate language-screenshots-VisualEditor off of Nodepool to Docker containers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122#4053293 (10zeljkof... [15:18:11] 10VisualEditor, 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure (shipyard), 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-20 (1.31.0-wmf.26)), 10Patch-For-Review, and 3 others: Migrate language-screenshots-VisualEditor off of Nodepool to Docker containers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122#4053300 (10zeljkof... [15:18:56] 10VisualEditor, 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure (shipyard), 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-20 (1.31.0-wmf.26)), 10Patch-For-Review, and 3 others: Migrate language-screenshots-VisualEditor off of Nodepool to Docker containers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122#4053314 (10zeljkof... [16:06:13] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Parsoid: "Templates used" doesn't get updated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189322#4053462 (10Esanders) [16:32:53] (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: build: Use commons_upload v1.2.1 Ruby gem for language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/419777 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122) [16:39:45] (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] build: Use commons_upload v1.2.1 Ruby gem for language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/419777 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [16:47:15] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Liaisons: Enabling citoid on Japanese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189485#4053699 (10patilise) @Mvolz: We have not received any objections so far regarding the change in Issue 2, as well as enabling citoid before Issues 1 and 3 are implemented. Neverthe... [16:48:44] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] build: Use commons_upload v1.2.1 Ruby gem for language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/419777 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [16:49:12] (03CR) 10Zfilipin: build: Use commons_upload v1.2.1 Ruby gem for language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/419777 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [16:49:19] (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] build: Use commons_upload v1.2.1 Ruby gem for language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/419777 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [16:57:18] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Use commons_upload v1.2.1 Ruby gem for language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/419777 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [16:59:16] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: build: Use commons_upload v1.2.1 Ruby gem for language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/419777 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [17:09:21] 10VisualEditor, 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure (shipyard), 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-20 (1.31.0-wmf.26)), 10Patch-For-Review, and 3 others: Migrate language-screenshots-VisualEditor off of Nodepool to Docker containers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189122#4053802 (10zeljkof... [17:12:25] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Design, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Have Show preview and Review your changes more directly accessible in the New Wikitext Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153306#4053806 (10Esanders) >>! In T153306#4053133, @Deskana wrote: >... [17:37:55] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Add ellipsis to "Publish changes" button when editing to indicate it's not the final step - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189803#4053939 (10Deskana) [17:38:17] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Add ellipsis to "Publish changes" button when editing to indicate it's not the final step - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189803#4053951 (10Deskana) p:05Triage>03Normal [17:39:48] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Epic, 10VisualEditor (Current work): [Epic] Do not "recover" edits that were intentionally abandoned (in the visual and 2017 wikitext editors) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189576#4053956 (10Deskana) [17:40:36] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Epic, 10VisualEditor (Current work): [Epic] Do not "recover" edits that were intentionally abandoned (in the visual and 2017 wikitext editors) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189576#4046112 (10Deskana) 05Open>03stalled Some of the cases where changes we... [17:40:49] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-20 (1.31.0-wmf.26)), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Close VE gracefully when the 'Article' tab is clicked, so that changes are not "recovered" when they shouldn't be - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189380#4053962 (10... [17:40:53] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Epic, 10VisualEditor (Current work): [Epic] Do not "recover" edits that were intentionally abandoned (in the visual and 2017 wikitext editors) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189576#4053961 (10Deskana) [17:42:45] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Add ellipsis to "Publish changes" button when editing to indicate it's not the final step - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189803#4053990 (10Deskana) [17:42:50] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Toolbar "Save page" button is confusing as it merely opens the dialog to save the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44138#4053989 (10Deskana) [20:26:27] (03Abandoned) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Support 'safemode' parameter [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/405993 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185303) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:37:17] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 10Performance-Team, 10Patch-For-Review: safemode parameter doesn't work with VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185303#4054452 (10matmarex) @Krinkle Thanks for picking this up. Your proposal makes more sense than what I imagined w... [21:26:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Users are requesting a "Cancel and exit without saving" option - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85470#4054703 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) We've also talked about adding it to one of the existing menus, e.g., in the Help menu next to "Read the user guide" and "Leave feedba... [21:38:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Performance: Use stashedit in new wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189821#4054736 (10Esanders) [21:39:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Performance: Use stashedit in new wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189821#4054746 (10Esanders) [21:44:44] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Performance: Use stashedit in new wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189821#4054756 (10Esanders) See https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/master/resources/src/mediawiki.action/mediawiki.action.edit.stash.js [21:55:32] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: VisualEditor: "Cannot read property 'node' of null" when editing table with HTML comments between table cells - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189543#4054785 (10matmarex) A very similar issue happens with lists with HTML comments between list items: ``` * foo