[00:19:57] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: When TemplateData defines Suggested wikitext formatting as "block", but no parameters are specified, an unnecessary line break is added - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211387 (10Dvorapa) We complained about this issue on cswiki a few days ago [01:48:09] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (860f28129) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/477850 (owner: 10Jforrester) [02:00:53] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (860f28129) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/477850 (owner: 10Jforrester) [02:03:04] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (860f28129) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/477850 (owner: 10Jforrester) [09:10:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Let me visit a red-linked page without opening the editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211379 (10Schnark) The "What if I wanted to start that page in the visual mode?" part is more or less {T55441} (i.e. use default editor for redlinks), whic... [10:11:17] 10Citoid, 10RESTBase, 10Services (next): RESTBase x-amples test started failing for citoid in beta cluster due to zotero being disabled. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211386 (10mobrovac) Checks are known not to work in Beta. If we wanted to correct this situation we would need to reapply [PR #1082](ht... [10:27:19] 10Citoid, 10RESTBase, 10Services (next): RESTBase x-amples test started failing for citoid in beta cluster due to zotero being disabled. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211386 (10mobrovac) Ah, now I understand. The RB travis checks are failing because of this. I think the best way forward for this issue... [10:32:43] 10Citoid, 10Operations, 10Prod-Kubernetes, 10Core Platform Team Backlog (Watching / External), 10Services (watching): Citoid automated monitoring times out due to Zotero v2 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211411 (10mobrovac) p:05Triage>03High [10:57:29] 10Citoid, 10RESTBase, 10Core Platform Team Kanban (Done with CPT), 10Services (done): RESTBase x-amples test started failing for citoid in beta cluster due to zotero being disabled. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211386 (10mobrovac) 05Open>03Resolved a:03mobrovac [PR #1086](https://github.com/w... [13:19:22] 10VisualEditor, 10Math, 10Mathoid: Larger chemical formula are not displayed correctly in block mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166380 (10Pkra) [13:33:27] 10Cite, 10Math: Many articles containing UNIQ--postMath-00000001-QINU - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138453 (10Pkra) Is this issue a duplicate of T94344 ? [14:21:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Task Request: Change the default ref name produced by visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169841 (10Pbsouthwood) These names bother a lot of people who spend their time cleaning up the mess left by others using visual editor, which is a waste... [14:31:28] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Task Request: Change the default ref name produced by visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169841 (10Pbsouthwood) Try suggesting a ref name based on the available parameters and requiring the editor to confirm that it is a reasonable choice or... [14:39:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Task Request: Change the default ref name produced by visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169841 (10JenOttawa) Thanks for the suggestion {{Ping|Pbsouthwood}} . It is my understanding that there is not a place in the visual editor to add in a r... [15:10:21] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Task Request: Change the default ref name produced by visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169841 (10JenOttawa) [16:02:44] 10WikiEditor, 10Browser-Support-Google-Chrome, 10Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 10MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.6; 2018-11-27), and 2 others: WikiEditor dialogs kill the undo buffer - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T33780 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved a:03TheDJ Worked around for everyone e... [16:22:46] 10VisualEditor, 10Math, 10Mathoid: Larger chemical formula are not displayed correctly in block mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166380 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05duplicate>03Open [16:22:56] 10VisualEditor, 10Math, 10Mathoid: Larger chemical formula are not displayed correctly in block mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166380 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [17:31:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Patch-For-Review: Add a useful call-to-action in the context for citation needed templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211243 (10Esanders) This requires a per-wiki definitions file to map template names to handler code. Proposal: `lang=json,name=MediaWiki... [17:33:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Patch-For-Review: Add a useful call-to-action in the context for citation needed templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211243 (10Jdforrester-WMF) WFM. Maybe "citationNeededInline" vs. "citationNeededEncapsulate" for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:C... [17:41:20] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Patch-For-Review: Add a useful call-to-action in the context for citation needed templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211243 (10Esanders) We can pass an "encapsulate" meta-param: it.wiki: `lang=json { "citationNeeded": [ { "title": "Senza fo... [17:49:03] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Patch-For-Review: Add a useful call-to-action in the context for citation needed templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211243 (10Esanders) The downside of this is that we are putting all template definitions in one place (we already do this for citation ma... [18:19:58] 10Cite, 10Math: Many articles containing UNIQ--postMath-00000001-QINU - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138453 (10Tacsipacsi) It doesn’t seem to be, the issue is quite different. There, the math tag is not replaced with actual content based on its location (within title anchor). Here, it seems to be because... [18:36:09] 10Editing-team, 10Advanced Mobile Contributions, 10Discovery, 10MobileFrontend, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Design): Search results on Mobile web don't include a red link to create a new article - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211006 (10alexhollender) Just for clarification, this is what happens on deskt... [18:49:28] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Remove TitleBlacklist handling code [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478050 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211242) (owner: 10Esanders) [18:49:30] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Pass error data to SaveErrorHandler on error [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478049 (owner: 10Esanders) [18:53:57] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Technical-Debt: Remove SpamBlacklist error handling from ApiVisualEditorEdit.php - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211443 (10matmarex) [18:56:34] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10TitleBlacklist, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Move TitleBlacklist error handling code from VE to TitleBlacklist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211242 (10matmarex) [19:02:48] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Pass error data to SaveErrorHandler on error [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478049 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:03:50] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove TitleBlacklist handling code [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478050 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211242) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:05:18] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Pass error data to SaveErrorHandler on error [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478049 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:07:38] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Remove TitleBlacklist handling code [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478050 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211242) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:21:19] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Make SaveErrorHandler receive entire API response [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478241 [19:24:37] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Support for defined template context items [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478246 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211243) [19:27:11] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Make SaveErrorHandler receive entire API response [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478241 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:30:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Patch-For-Review: Add a useful call-to-action in the context for citation needed templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211243 (10Esanders) i18n suggestions welcome: {F27395104} [19:33:45] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Patch-For-Review: Add a useful call-to-action in the context for citation needed templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211243 (10Jdforrester-WMF) "An editor has suggested that this needs a citation. Do you have one?" // "Replace with a citation" maybe? [19:34:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Add handler for [[Template:Citation needed span]] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211447 (10Esanders) [19:35:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10TitleBlacklist, 10User-Ryasmeen: Move TitleBlacklist error handling code from VE to TitleBlacklist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211242 (10matmarex) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Esanders (Let's do Editing team QA/product review on T211157, these are all rel... [19:36:23] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension), 10MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.6; 2018-11-27), and 2 others: Move ConfirmEdit-related code out of VisualEditor-MediaWiki and into the ConfirmEdit extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141676 (10matmarex) [19:36:25] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension), 10MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.6; 2018-11-27), 10User-Ryasmeen: Provide a system in VisualEditor-MediaWiki to properly integrate CAPTCHAs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136859 (10matmarex) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Esanders... [19:36:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension), 10MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.6; 2018-11-27), and 2 others: Move ConfirmEdit-related code out of VisualEditor-MediaWiki and into the ConfirmEdit extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141676 (10matmarex) 05Open>03Resolved... [19:36:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension), 10MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.6; 2018-11-27), and 2 others: Move ConfirmEdit-related code out of VisualEditor-MediaWiki and into the ConfirmEdit extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141676 (10matmarex) (Let's do Editing te... [19:37:40] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Drop EducationProgram hacks, now that it's undeployed [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478053 (owner: 10Jforrester) [19:38:17] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Technical-Debt, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Allow VE plugins to handle save errors generated by extensions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211157 (10matmarex) QA notes: try to make an edit that will fail to save because of an error generated by ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA) / Spam... [19:40:23] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make SaveErrorHandler receive entire API response [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478241 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:42:48] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Make SaveErrorHandler receive entire API response [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478241 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:50:23] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Drop EducationProgram hacks, now that it's undeployed [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478053 (owner: 10Jforrester) [19:52:38] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Drop EducationProgram hacks, now that it's undeployed [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478053 (owner: 10Jforrester) [20:29:23] 10Editing-team, 10Advanced Mobile Contributions, 10Discovery, 10MobileFrontend, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Design): Search results on Mobile web don't include a red link to create a new article - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211006 (10Amire80) I love @alexhollender's proposed design! [21:01:33] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Let me visit a red-linked page without opening the editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211379 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) Are we sure that opening an editor is the best behavior? Maybe it should take you to "This page doesn't currently exist; you c... [21:09:21] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Task Request: Change the default ref name produced by visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169841 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) Diberri's tool, which WikiProject Medicine used to use as its primary source, used to provide a ref name of `pmid1234567` for... [21:16:14] (03Abandoned) 10Nouman: Support recaptcha for visual editor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/474619 (owner: 10Nouman) [21:28:19] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478331 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [21:54:56] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Support for defined template context items [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478246 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211243) [22:06:36] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Patch-For-Review: Add a useful call-to-action in the context for citation needed templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211243 (10Esanders) On en.wiki there are 60 redirects to {{Citation needed}}, two of which are actually listed in the documentation. We c... [22:15:50] 10Cite, 10Math: Many articles containing UNIQ--postMath-00000001-QINU - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138453 (10Pkra) Thanks for clarifying, @Tacsipacsi. [22:24:00] (03PS3) 10Esanders: Support for defined template context items [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478246 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211243) [22:53:48] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Section edit endpoints in RESTBase: Still needed? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211461 (10ssastry) [22:59:45] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase, 10Core Platform Team Backlog (Later), 10Services (blocked): Section edit endpoints in RESTBase: Still needed? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211461 (10Pchelolo) From the #restbase perspective, it means deleting a huge chunk of complicated code and a lot of sim... [23:14:19] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Come up with a better way to auto-label references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92432 (10Mathglot) >>! In T92432#4722691, @matmarex wrote: > While this would be easy to implement for any specific language (e.g. only for English), keep in mi...