[01:29:01] 10VisualEditor, 10Section Editing: [Regression ?] "Next" button stays disabled on Mobile NWE after switching from Mobile VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217617 (10Ryasmeen) Btw, this is happening on en.wiki too, therefore setting up the priority as High. Talked to @ppelberg about it. [01:29:15] 10VisualEditor, 10Section Editing: [Regression ?] "Next" button stays disabled on Mobile NWE after switching from Mobile VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217617 (10Ryasmeen) p:05Triage→03High [01:33:16] 10VisualEditor, 10MobileFrontend, 10MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.21; 2019-03-12), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Readers-Web-Kanbanana-Board-2018-19-Q3): Make EditorOverlay usable on Firefox by disabling auto-resizing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T216547 (10Jdlrobson) [01:34:00] 10VisualEditor, 10MobileFrontend, 10MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.21; 2019-03-12), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Readers-Web-Kanbanana-Board-2018-19-Q3): Make EditorOverlay usable on Firefox by disabling auto-resizing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T216547 (10Jdlrobson) a:03Edtadros Over to you Edward. [06:45:41] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Incorrect handling references with ISBN13 starting with 979 (ISBN is truncated to 10 digits) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217677 (10NicoV) @matmarex Yes, that's wrong, ISBN-13 can start either with 978 or with 979 (currently 979-10 to 979... [09:50:34] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Incorrect handling references with ISBN13 starting with 979 (ISBN is truncated to 10 digits) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217677 (10Mvolz) p:05Triage→03Normal a:03Mvolz [10:08:32] 10Citoid, 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Allow for conditional field mapping in Citoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190841 (10Mvolz) >>! In T190841#5000864, @Aschmidt wrote: > I am sorry to say that the issue has come up again on Geman Wikipedia, so I have reopened the task for re-evaluation. @Cirda... [10:08:41] 10Citoid, 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Allow for conditional field mapping in Citoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190841 (10Mvolz) 05Open→03Declined [10:13:30] 10Citoid, 10serviceops: JSTOR is blocking citoid IPs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T216456 (10Mvolz) >>! In T216456#5000567, @Joe wrote: > @Mvolz this means we can reconfigure citoid to use both proxies? I don't know, but I'll email you the IPs I sent them :). [10:16:35] 10VisualEditor, 10Operations, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase, and 5 others: Consider stashing data-parsoid for VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215956 (10ema) p:05Triage→03Normal >>! In T215956#4977137, @mobrovac wrote: > it seems like we will need to add a rule to Varnish to pass on these requests Woul... [11:28:26] (03PS12) 10Esanders: Separate document HTML promise from edit metadata promise [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473198 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209078) [11:33:31] 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10Regression, 10VisualEditor (Current work): [regression] Historical visual diffs not always working properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217752 (10Esanders) [11:39:05] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Fix section param in historical diffs [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/494697 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217752) [11:42:57] 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Regression, 10VisualEditor (Current work): [regression] Historical visual diffs not unwrapping section tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217752 (10Esanders) [11:51:57] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Fix section param in historical diffs [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/494697 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217752) (owner: 10Esanders) [12:02:12] (03CR) 10Divec: [C: 03+2] rebaser: pushState when calling showForm [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/494216 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:13:04] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: rebaser: pushState when calling showForm [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/494216 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:15:34] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: rebaser: pushState when calling showForm [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/494216 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:15:59] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor adds nowiki-tags around ISBNs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217187 (10Cirdan) This is perhaps also related to {T162291} and/or {T213255}. [13:30:31] 10Cite, 10TCB-Team: Add browser test for highlighting code destroying up-arrow back links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217767 (10WMDE-Fisch) [13:30:46] 10Cite, 10TCB-Team, 10MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.19; 2019-02-26), 10Regression, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-02-20: Accessibility and/or highlighting code destroys up-arrow back links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215317 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:32:07] 10Cite, 10TCB-Team: Add browser test for highlighting code destroying up-arrow back links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217767 (10WMDE-Fisch) [13:34:27] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design : Isolate Section Editing: Determine New Workflows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209984 (10iamjessklein) Through user testing, we've identified another edge case which is: if a user wants to edit the section and then quickly move back to editing the whole page. There a... [13:36:30] 10VisualEditor, 10MobileFrontend: Consider adding a button to let users edit the whole page in MobileFrontend - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T203151 (10iamjessklein) This could be a solution or part of a solution to the edge case of a user wanting to return to the entire article after editing a section T2... [13:39:16] 10Editing-team, 10Advanced Mobile Contributions, 10Discovery, 10MobileFrontend, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Design): Search results on Mobile web don't include a red link to create a new article - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211006 (10alexhollender) I think this task is almost ready to go. The blocking... [13:48:45] 10VisualEditor: Excessive white space after article completes in section editing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217769 (10iamjessklein) [14:40:57] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+1] "Is this for third party wikis? Private Wikimedia wikis? Something else?" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/493300 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129546) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:07:09] 10VisualEditor, 10Section Editing: [Section Editing] New feature request: add sections while editing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217563 (10ppelberg) I agree this is a feature we should consider for future iterations; however, I think any conversation around prioritization is better suited for a time w... [15:41:29] 10VisualEditor, 10Section Editing: Excessive white space after article completes in section editing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217769 (10JTannerWMF) [15:44:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Contributors-Team, and 2 others: Allow switching between editors with changes on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128422 (10JTannerWMF) [15:52:48] 10VisualEditor: Change naming in Dutch Visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217779 (10Ciell) [16:29:17] 10VisualEditor, 10Section Editing: [Section Editing} Lose edits if idle on page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217783 (10JTannerWMF) [16:30:12] 10VisualEditor, 10Section Editing: [Section Editing} Lose edits if idle on page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217783 (10JTannerWMF) Comment pulled from [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uux8an52caeo4fad | Talk Page ]] from @Whatamidoing-WMF : I don't know what we can do about it in the end (beyon... [16:31:29] 10VisualEditor, 10I18n: Change naming in Dutch Visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217779 (10Mainframe98) Usually, translation requests are handled on [[ https://www.translatewiki.org | translatewiki ]]. If you have an account, you can make the translations yourself. Optionally, if there's cons... [16:32:18] 10VisualEditor: Speed up the animation of the toolbar in loading overlay - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217784 (10iamjessklein) [16:34:21] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design : Speed up the animation of the toolbar in loading overlay - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217784 (10iamjessklein) [16:38:54] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design : Speed up the animation of the toolbar in loading overlay - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217784 (10Esanders) >>! In T210630#5003426, @Volker_E wrote: > After looks already like a good step forward! > One user expectation comment: Could we show the toolbar a bit earlier w... [16:40:23] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design : Speed up the animation of the toolbar in loading overlay - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217784 (10Esanders) I don't think the title summarises the original request: It sounds like Volker is asking for the bar to be shown earlier, not animated quicker. We can't build a... [16:40:55] 10VisualEditor, 10I18n: Change naming in Dutch Visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217779 (10Ammarpad) @Ciell This does not require developer work. You can translate [[https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&showMessage=cite-ve-toolbar-group-label&group=ext-cite-visualeditor&la... [16:45:54] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design : Speed up the animation of the toolbar in loading overlay - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217784 (10Esanders) > The best we could do have a placeholder. The placeholder could be empty, or a generic version of the toolbar (although that would require manually duplicating... [16:48:13] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design : Toolbar in loading overlay should display sooner in sequencing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217784 (10iamjessklein) [16:56:53] 10VisualEditor, 10I18n: Change naming in Dutch Visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217779 (10Ciell) @Ammarpad: thank you, I even have an account there! @Mainframe98: see https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_Wikipedia:Opinielokaal/Inschakelen_visuele_tekstverwerker_voor_nieuwe_gebruikers#vragen... [17:28:16] 10VisualEditor, 10I18n: Change naming in Dutch Visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217779 (10Ammarpad) >>! In T217779#5005773, @Ciell wrote: > I translated it now an Translatewiki: can you deploy it Mainframe98? No need. It'll be automatically transferred and merged by bots. Just give it some... [17:32:29] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design : Toolbar in loading overlay should display sooner in sequencing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217784 (10Volker_E) Yes, a placeholder!1! [17:33:24] 10VisualEditor, 10I18n, 10User-Ryasmeen: Change naming in Dutch Visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217779 (10Ciell) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Ciell Great, thanks. [17:44:04] 10VisualEditor, 10Section Editing: [Section Editing} Lose edits if idle on page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217783 (10DLynch) I don't think this is section-editing specific? This is just the page getting kicked out of memory, and us not having autosave working on mobile (I think). [17:51:20] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Section Editing: [Regression ?] "Next" button stays disabled on MobileFrontend wikitext editor after switching from Mobile VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217617 (10Esanders) [17:52:08] 10VisualEditor, 10Section Editing: [Section Editing} Lose edits if idle on page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217783 (10DLynch) Specifically: there's no autosave in wikitext mode, because that's not in the VE codebase -- there's no NWE on mobile currently. As far as I know we //should// have autosave wo... [18:12:44] 10Editing-team, 10Advanced Mobile Contributions, 10MobileFrontend, 10OOUI, and 2 others: Add 'articleAdd' icon to OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217790 (10Volker_E) [19:29:51] worker1 you should ask in #mediawiki-parsoid [19:47:55] 10Citoid, 10MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.9; 2018-12-18), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Allow restbase url to be set directly in Citoid extension, overwriting the VE url. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202271 (10ppelberg) 05Open→03Resolved [19:55:55] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10TestMe: VisualEditor:After deleting a reference list along with reference, the order of the first reference does not get deleted in FireFox 25 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60921 (10matej_suchanek) [19:57:50] 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.14; 2019-01-22), 10Verified, 10VisualEditor (Current work): After changing a link target, the link is selected such that typing will delete the link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211236 (10ppelberg) 05Open→03Resolved [20:04:56] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: EPIC: Fix selection issues on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209505 (10Esanders) [20:04:58] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Editing Q1 2018-19 mobile improvements, 10MW-1.32-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-08-21 (1.32.0-wmf.18)), 10User-Ryasmeen, and 2 others: Cursor appears over the drop down menu for text styling in Mobile VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109529 (10Esanders) [20:05:22] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: EPIC: Fix selection issues on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209505 (10Esanders) [20:05:24] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10MW-1.32-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-08-21 (1.32.0-wmf.18)), 10User-Ryasmeen, 10Verified, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Mobile: Hide keyboard while menus are open - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201329 (10Esanders) [20:13:09] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Selection can appear on top of toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217797 (10Esanders) [20:13:17] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: EPIC: Fix selection issues on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209505 (10Esanders) [20:13:19] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Selection can appear on top of toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217797 (10Esanders) [20:13:59] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Selection can appear on top of toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217797 (10Esanders) > @DLynch > Switch to fake-selection during scroll, transform it back the instant scrolling stops? [20:14:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Selection can appear on top of toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217797 (10Esanders) yeah - (unless the selection has moved off screen) you would still lose copy/paste I think, but that's not so bad, you are unlikely to select->scroll->copy [20:15:51] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Selection can appear on top of toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217797 (10Esanders) If we absolutely position the surface down 3em so it doesn't go under the toolbar, this fixes the issue on Android (and nicely), but iOS still fails. [20:18:11] 10VisualEditor: [EPIC: Focus] Isolate Section Editing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209955 (10ppelberg) [20:43:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics, 10Performance: Analyze impact of parallel loading of page content and mobile visual editor code - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214450 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) @Esanders, @ppelberg and I talked this week and thought it would be good if... [21:01:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Selection lags behind scroll on iPhone - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217798 (10Esanders) [21:01:13] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: EPIC: Fix selection issues on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209505 (10Esanders) [21:01:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Selection lags behind scroll on iPhone - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217798 (10Esanders) [21:02:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Selection lags behind scroll on iPhone - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217798 (10Esanders) This could be fixed by the solution proposed in T217797#5006489 [21:04:10] 10VisualEditor, 10Section Editing: [Section Editing] Research Performance Time SPIKE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217564 (10ppelberg) @dchan's foresight to //intentionally// test Section Editing on 1) entry level devices (i.e. Xiaomi Redmi 6A) and 2) with //longer/bigger articles// is a learning I thin... [21:04:54] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Selection lags behind scroll on iPhone - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217798 (10Esanders) [21:32:31] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics, 10Performance: Analyze impact of parallel loading of page content and mobile visual editor code - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214450 (10Esanders) Thanks, fixed typos: `lang=mysql select date_format(dt, "YYYY-mm-dd") as day,... [21:43:18] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics, 10Performance: Analyze impact of parallel loading of page content and mobile visual editor code - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214450 (10Esanders) Here's the 10th/50th percentiles for 2019 (90th looks similar). The data is very noi... [21:50:01] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics, 10Performance: Analyze impact of parallel loading of page content and mobile visual editor code - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214450 (10Esanders) If you wanted to read the tea leaves you could say there was a slowdown on the Frida... [21:55:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics, 10Performance: Analyze impact of parallel loading of page content and mobile visual editor code - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214450 (10Esanders) The change we are analysing was in wmf14 which went out on Jan 22 (so 24-25th before... [21:58:46] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics, 10Performance: Analyze impact of parallel loading of page content and mobile visual editor code - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214450 (10Esanders) Just did a test on live and something weird is happening: {F28338654} More investi... [23:38:10] 10Editing-team, 10Advanced Mobile Contributions, 10MobileFrontend, 10UI-Standardization, and 3 others: Add 'articleAdd' icon to OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217790 (10Volker_E) [23:38:43] 10Editing-team, 10Advanced Mobile Contributions, 10Discovery, 10MobileFrontend, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Design): Search results on Mobile web don't include a red link to create a new article - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211006 (10Volker_E) [23:38:50] 10Editing-team, 10Advanced Mobile Contributions, 10MobileFrontend, 10UI-Standardization, and 2 others: Add 'articleAdd' icon to OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217790 (10Volker_E) 05Open→03Resolved p:05Triage→03Normal a:03Volker_E