[10:28:29] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: VE on officewiki is removing spaces (dirty diffs) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225217 (10matmarex) The earlier instance I know of is these diffs posted by @gpaumier on IRC on 30 May: https://office.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=252216&oldid=252101 and https://office.wikimedi... [13:16:02] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: VE on officewiki is removing spaces (dirty diffs) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225217 (10Anomie) I just saw an edit on wikitech with a similar dirty diff: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Logstash&diff=1828764&oldid=1827679 ---- I have no idea if it's a vali... [14:49:56] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid-Edit-Support: VE on officewiki is removing spaces (dirty diffs) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225217 (10ssastry) p:05Triage→03Normal [14:52:28] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid-Edit-Support: VE on officewiki is removing spaces (dirty diffs) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225217 (10ssastry) >>! In T225217#5242971, @Anomie wrote: > I just saw an edit on wikitech with a similar dirty diff: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Logstash&diff=182... [15:20:39] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid-Edit-Support, 10Patch-For-Review: VE on officewiki is removing spaces (dirty diffs) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225217 (10cscott) Hm! Turns out that we've been worrying about the complex caching semantics required of RESTbase during edits, while all along merrily ignoring... [16:13:02] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] build: Updating mediawiki/mediawiki-codesniffer to 26.0.0 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/515107 (owner: 10Libraryupgrader) [16:19:13] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] build: Updating mediawiki/mediawiki-codesniffer to 26.0.0 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/515107 (owner: 10Libraryupgrader) [16:36:52] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: build: Updating mediawiki/mediawiki-codesniffer to 26.0.0 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/515107 (owner: 10Libraryupgrader) [16:40:08] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid-Edit-Support, 10Patch-For-Review: VE on officewiki is removing spaces (dirty diffs) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225217 (10ssastry) >>! In T225217#5243157, @cscott wrote: > .... while all along merrily ignoring caching altogether.... Only on private wikis. [16:42:40] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid-Edit-Support, 10Patch-For-Review: VE on officewiki is removing spaces (dirty diffs) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225217 (10Arlolra) > Only on private wikis. If RESTBase decides (based on these complex semantics) that it doesn't have cached data for an edit, it applies to no... [16:54:56] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid-Edit-Support, 10Patch-For-Review: VE on officewiki is removing spaces (dirty diffs) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225217 (10ssastry) >>! In T225217#5243305, @Arlolra wrote: >> Only on private wikis. > > If RESTBase decides (based on these complex semantics) that it doesn't h... [17:17:36] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid-Edit-Support, 10Patch-For-Review: VE on officewiki is removing spaces (dirty diffs) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225217 (10Anomie) >>! In T225217#5243119, @ssastry wrote: > Did you not provide an oldhtmlfile deliberately to mimic absence of RESTBase? Or was it unintentional?... [18:56:09] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Wiktionary: Clicking on "edit source" beside a section open the visual editor on the French Wiktionary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225316 (10matej_suchanek) [19:13:33] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Wiktionary: Clicking on "edit source" beside a section open the visual editor on the French Wiktionary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225316 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Yes, this was [[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2019/23|announced in... [19:47:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Wiktionary: Clicking on "edit source" beside a section open the visual editor on the French Wiktionary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225316 (10Pamputt) Just to be clear, we have two link: "Edit" and "Edit source". Clicking on "Edit" or "Ed... [21:07:47] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Wiktionary: Clicking on "edit source" beside a section open the visual editor on the French Wiktionary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225316 (10matmarex) VisualEditor produces the correct output: `lang=html

(03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 03+2] Update VE core submodule to master (e531c251e) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/514628 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:18:50] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Wiktionary: Clicking on "edit source" beside a section open the visual editor on the French Wiktionary (due to broken local gadget) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225316 (10Aklapper) [21:19:13] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Clicking on "edit source" beside a section open the visual editor on the French Wiktionary (due to broken local gadget) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225316 (10Aklapper) Removing #Wiktionary, please see its project description. [21:19:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Clicking on "edit source" beside a section open the visual editor on the French Wiktionary (due to broken local gadget) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225316 (10Aklapper) 05Open→03Invalid Closing task as invalid as local on-wiki content is... [21:29:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Clicking on "edit source" beside a section open the visual editor on the French Wiktionary (due to broken local gadget) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225316 (10matmarex) For the record, I think the issue is entirely unrelated to the VE change... [21:37:42] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (e531c251e) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/514628 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:39:59] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (e531c251e) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/514628 (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:07:25] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Enable creation of new articles straight with Visual Editor in elwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T194128 (10ppelberg) [22:07:30] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.8; 2019-06-04), 10User-notice, 10VisualEditor (Current work): On non-SET wikis (two edit tabs), links to new pages (red links) should open the user's preferred editor (last used) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T223793 (10ppelberg) 05Open→03Resol... [22:43:57] 10VisualEditor: How many VE load sessions are initiated via red links? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225333 (10ppelberg) [23:19:58] 10VisualEditor: How many VE load sessions are initiated via red links? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225333 (10Jdforrester-WMF) //Very// quick and dirty query for the last month and a bit's data: hive (event)> SELECT year, month, day, event.init_type, event.init_mechanism, COUNT(dt) as number FROM event.... [23:30:31] 10VisualEditor: How many VE load sessions are initiated via red links? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225333 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Anyway, short answer to your actual question is 15.12%. :-)