[00:04:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards : [Pre-deployment bug] Adding an external link makes the edit card go away once it comes back to the document unlike other cases making it an inconsistent experience - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227630 (10Ryasmeen) @Esanders, here is a screen capture if that he... [00:05:16] 10VisualEditor: A reflist under a section shows only the reference from the previous section and then suddenly expands to show the remaining upon pressing return - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228118 (10matmarex) (Related: T131563) [02:55:32] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: build: Updating dependencies [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/523457 (owner: 10Libraryupgrader) [05:02:23] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: build: Updating dependencies [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/523533 (owner: 10Libraryupgrader) [10:47:37] 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.13; 2019-07-09), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Enhance instrumentation for context items and inspectors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221252 (10JTannerWMF) Hey @DLynch and @matmarex, marcella mentioned this patch is d... [12:06:15] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Editing QA, 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.14; 2019-07-16), 10Regression, 10VisualEditor (Current work): No loading progress shown when switching from mobile wikitext to mobile VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228096 (10iamjessklein) Nice catch @Esanders The fix h... [12:11:20] 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.13; 2019-07-09), 10OOUI (OOUI-0.33.0): Add 'unLink' icon to Wikimedia Design Style Guide and OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226031 (10Volker_E) Design Style Guide part covered in https://github.com/wikimedia/WikimediaUI-Style-Guide/pull/218. [12:20:05] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Editing QA, 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.14; 2019-07-16), 10Regression, 10VisualEditor (Current work): No loading progress shown when switching from mobile wikitext to mobile VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228096 (10Esanders) We just fixed the regression, so it... [12:56:09] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Design: Improve loading progress appearance when loading MF, or switching from MF to VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228159 (10Esanders) [12:56:27] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Editing QA, 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.14; 2019-07-16), 10Regression, 10VisualEditor (Current work): No loading progress shown when switching from mobile wikitext to mobile VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228096 (10Esanders) Filed T228159 as follow up. [13:06:46] (03CR) 10Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE): [C: 03+2] Fix descriptions to point to correct message [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/523110 (owner: 10Mvolz) [13:12:17] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix descriptions to point to correct message [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/523110 (owner: 10Mvolz) [13:14:30] 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.13; 2019-07-09), 10OOUI (OOUI-0.33.0): Add 'unLink' icon to Wikimedia Design Style Guide and OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226031 (10Volker_E) 05Open→03Resolved PR 218 is merged and pushed to DSG server. [13:14:32] 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Editing Design, 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.13; 2019-07-09), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Design Edit Cards "v2.0" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225725 (10Volker_E) [13:32:45] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Hide "options" bar under edit summary input when hidden - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228165 (10Esanders) [13:32:54] (03PS1) 10Esanders: SaveDialog: Hide options bar when empty [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/523714 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228165) [13:33:43] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Hide "options" bar under edit summary input when hidden - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228165 (10Esanders) [13:48:39] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "I feel like it needs to fade in now or something…" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/523714 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228165) (owner: 10Esanders) [13:49:50] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Hide "options" bar under edit summary input when hidden - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228165 (10iamjessklein) +1 thanks for creating this ticket @Esanders I quickly drafted a few initial thoughts - what do you think?... [14:03:52] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Hide "options" bar under edit summary input when hidden - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228165 (10Esanders) I don' think this is for showing "progress" but rather for "warning" the user when they are about to run out of... [14:07:49] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Hide "options" bar under edit summary input when hidden - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228165 (10Esanders) An inline counter is used in old wikitext editor: {F29782124} although that editor doesn't use a multi-line inpu... [14:10:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Assess the mobile visual editor's loading performace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228167 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) [14:10:22] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics: Assess the mobile visual editor's loading performace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228167 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) [14:12:06] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Hide "options" bar under edit summary input when hidden - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228165 (10Esanders) In VE it would look like this: {F29782136,size=full} [14:41:02] 10VisualEditor: A reflist under a section shows only the reference from the previous section and then suddenly expands to show the remaining upon pressing return - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228118 (10Esanders) I was unaware of this functionality, although I think in practice this is never done because i... [15:16:01] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 03+2] Update VE core submodule to master (311a3dff1) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/523344 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:22:33] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10VisualEditor-Mobile-UsabilityImprovements, 10OOUI, 10Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Scrolling a ProcessDialog scrolls the page behind on iOS Safari - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212159 (10Esanders) Could we apply this to just fullscr... [15:41:13] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Editing Design, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Design "refreshed toolbar" v1.0 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225634 (10iamjessklein) I drafted a version of the toolbar where the toolbar has a static state. In order to get to this I made the following changes: - Remo... [15:41:50] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (311a3dff1) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/523344 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:44:49] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (311a3dff1) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/523344 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:07:16] 10VisualEditor: A reflist under a section shows only the reference from the previous section and then suddenly expands to show the remaining upon pressing return - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228118 (10JTannerWMF) @Esanders provided the reason above of deprioritizing [16:08:19] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics: Assess the mobile visual editor's loading performace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228167 (10JTannerWMF) Pending discussion between @ppelberg and @Neil_P._Quinn_WMF [16:08:21] 10VisualEditor: A reflist under a section shows only the reference from the previous section and then suddenly expands to show the remaining upon pressing return - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228118 (10matmarex) >>! In T228118#5337236, @Esanders wrote: > I was unaware of this functionality, although I thi... [16:09:42] 10VisualEditor, 10MobileFrontend, 10UI-Standardization, 10Design, 10UX-Debt: Errors in mobile editor appear unstyled and are not obviously errors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228100 (10JTannerWMF) We aren't prioritizing #mobilefrontend at this time. [16:14:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Design: Improve loading progress appearance when loading MF, or switching from MF to VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228159 (10JTannerWMF) Hi @marcella please consider this for the usability backlog. [16:15:33] 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10VisualEditor (Current work): [Pre-deployment bug] Adding an external link makes the edit card go away once it comes back to the document unlike other cases making it an inconsistent experience - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227630 (10JTannerWMF) [16:16:21] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Consider creating a way for contributors to navigate between sections, while still in edit mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228109 (10JTannerWMF) We will work on this sometime this fiscal year. [16:19:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Revise how an article's top-most edit pencil is presented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228107 (10JTannerWMF) We will consider this in future quarters. [16:22:57] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Parsoid: Several {{Collapse top}} templates render incorrectly in Meta wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227921 (10JTannerWMF) The #editing-team believes this ticket should be looked at by #parsoid, we are not prioritizing at this time. [16:25:21] 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10VisualEditor (Current work): [Pre-deployment bug] While trying to change label for a link in Edit card V2 the page scrolls up making the link go out of view - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227627 (10JTannerWMF) @matmarex will take a look [16:27:00] 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10Editing Design, 10VisualEditor (Current work): [Pre-deployment bug] Scrolling the page when a link is selected resizes the edit card itself it seems. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227628 (10JTannerWMF) Hey @iamjessklein we need you to conduct a design review on this and d... [16:27:36] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Parsoid: Several {{Collapse top}} templates render incorrectly in Meta wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227921 (10ssastry) >>! In T227921#5334508, @matmarex wrote: > The `{{Collapse bottom}}` template generates the `|}`, and for it to work correc... [16:29:20] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Context items: verify logging events are firing properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227933 (10JTannerWMF) @ppelberg is awaiting feedback from @marcella of whether or not @Ryasmeen is going to QA this or if we should pursue another course of action. [16:29:59] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Inserting special character after link links that character, too - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228006 (10JTannerWMF) [16:34:46] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Inserting special character after link links that character, too - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228006 (10JTannerWMF) This task isn't within scope at this time for the #editing-team [16:34:56] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Inserting special character after link links that character, too - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228006 (10Esanders) [16:34:58] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel: Can't reliably gather list of annotation views from a DM offset - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221967 (10Esanders) [16:36:08] 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Copying and pasting table cell is broken in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227852 (10JTannerWMF) We will take a look at this. [16:38:11] 10VisualEditor: Copying from Excel and pasting into Visual Editor in Firefox pastes plain text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228010 (10JTannerWMF) We will take a look at this [16:39:15] 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Copying and pasting table cell is broken in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227852 (10matmarex) [16:39:18] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Problems to copy in the Visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227993 (10matmarex) [16:39:22] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10Product-Analytics: Edit Cards v2: instrumentation post-deployment data checks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227354 (10JTannerWMF) Waiting for the release of V2 [16:40:55] 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10VisualEditor (Current work): Edit card: get legal approval for workflow instrumentation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221250 (10JTannerWMF) We can decline this task, there is no action here considering we are not making changes to the schema so there is nothing for legal to... [16:41:03] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Problems to copy in the Visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227993 (10matmarex) Thanks for reporting this, we'll have a look. There is another bug report that seems to be about the same problem, so I merged them. Please note that most of us don't speak Span... [16:41:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10Product-Analytics: Analyze impact of mobile visual editor structured workflows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221728 (10JTannerWMF) Waiting on V2 to go live [16:41:46] 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Copying and pasting table cell is broken in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227852 (10matmarex) Per the merged task, this works correctly in Edge, so maybe it's a browser-specific problem. [16:43:22] 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Copying and pasting table cell is broken in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227852 (10Esanders) Bisect blames https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/VisualEditor/VisualEditor/+/498528/, cc @dchan [16:44:24] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Revert "Call handleInsertion on beforeinput" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/523770 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227852) [16:44:33] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Revert "Call handleInsertion on beforeinput" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/523770 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227852) [16:46:41] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor fails to load randomly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227330 (10JTannerWMF) The Editing team is investigating T213214, which we believe is related to this bug. [16:48:38] 10VisualEditor, 10Section Editing: Section editing doesn't work on sections which are not children of the root, e.g. div-wrapped sections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227944 (10JTannerWMF) We can revisit this when working on Section Editing on Desktop. [16:49:04] 10VisualEditor, 10Section Editing: Section editing doesn't work on sections which are not children of the root, e.g. div-wrapped sections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227944 (10Esanders) This wikitext is unlikely to occur on articles, and is more commonly used on project pages or user pages. [16:49:31] 10VisualEditor, 10Section Editing: Section editing doesn't work on sections which are not children of the root, e.g. div-wrapped sections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227944 (10Esanders) [16:49:34] 10VisualEditor: Deploy visual section editing on Desktop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221908 (10Esanders) [16:49:49] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Oversampling changes edit completion rate - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227931 (10JTannerWMF) [16:51:17] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Edit cards: deploy v2 to all wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225834 (10JTannerWMF) a:03Esanders [16:52:43] 10VisualEditor: Investigate mapping PHP HTML to Parsoid HTML for talk page features - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227686 (10JTannerWMF) @Esanders please add a description [16:57:26] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Editing an existing link's label has no effect if label < 3 characters long - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227673 (10JTannerWMF) [16:58:18] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Editing an existing link's label has no effect if label < 3 characters long - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227673 (10JTannerWMF) @Esanders is evaluating what to do with this [16:59:59] 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.13; 2019-07-09), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Enhance instrumentation for context items and inspectors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221252 (10DLynch) I guess that since we have that separate ticket for the QA (T2212... [17:00:37] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design: Find an easier way to put testing content on server(s) for testing purposes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227658 (10JTannerWMF) Hey @iamjessklein, @ppelberg and I need a little more clarity on this one [17:14:47] 10VisualEditor, 10I18n: VE does not support wikitext in system messages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227325 (10Revansx) Thanks, Tgr.. how do this kind of things get prioritized? Is this feature request in the dead-letter office? [17:19:42] 10VisualEditor: Investigate mapping PHP HTML to Parsoid HTML for talk page features - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227686 (10matmarex) I figured we would just identify the DOM node position of a talk page comment in PHP HTML, relative to the root (`
`), and then use that to fin... [17:35:59] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10VisualEditor-Mobile-UsabilityImprovements, 10OOUI, 10Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Scrolling a ProcessDialog scrolls the page behind on iOS Safari - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212159 (10matmarex) >>! In T212159#5337412, @Esanders w... [17:37:59] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "Should this get tagged against T217223 as presumably that'll be re-opened?" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/523770 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227852) (owner: 10Esanders) [17:52:25] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Editing QA, 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.14; 2019-07-16), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Editing lede section in VE mobile loads the whole article - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227897 (10ppelberg) After talking with @Esanders, we confirmed this patch will apply to t... [18:01:14] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: [Epic] Mobile VE loading performance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227930 (10ppelberg) [18:07:48] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10VisualEditor-Mobile-UsabilityImprovements, 10OOUI, 10Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Scrolling a ProcessDialog scrolls the page behind on iOS Safari - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212159 (10Esanders) The abandon changes dialog in VE is... [18:54:08] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10VisualEditor-Mobile-UsabilityImprovements, 10OOUI, 10Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Scrolling a ProcessDialog scrolls the page behind on iOS Safari - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212159 (10matmarex) Alright, I updated the patch. [19:43:26] 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10Editing Design, 10VisualEditor (Current work): [EPIC] User Testing Outcomes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227894 (10ppelberg) [19:43:44] 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10Editing Design, 10VisualEditor (Current work): [EPIC] User Testing Outcomes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227894 (10ppelberg) [20:07:53] 10VisualEditor: Is support of "cross-domain requests" an intentional prerequisite to SSO integration for enterprise use cases? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227329 (10matmarex) >>! In T227329#5317344, @Revansx wrote: > Normally, with simpleSAMLphp SSO integration, when the client's session expires, the ve... [20:11:43] 10VisualEditor: A re-used reference that's been added after adding a reflist appears as "Cite error" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228209 (10Ryasmeen) [20:23:02] 10VisualEditor, 10MobileFrontend, 10I18n, 10Patch-For-Review, and 2 others: MobileFrontend should not use moment.js for a single line - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224635 (10JTannerWMF) Tagging some folks for visibility @ppelberg @marcella @Esanders [20:26:57] 10VisualEditor, 10I18n: VE does not support wikitext in system messages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227325 (10matmarex) The messages you're referring to are not error messages, but rather the heading of an error message and a button underneath it. It would be somewhat complicated to support wikitext i... [20:39:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: [Epic] Mobile VE loading performance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227930 (10Esanders) So I had a quick look at the `abort_type` data. First some data-integrity observations: * We aren't logging any `preinit` events on mobile, only desktop. That said thi... [20:46:55] 10VisualEditor: Trying to open VE while the toast is open shows an overlapping view of Read mode and edit mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228216 (10Ryasmeen) [20:48:42] 10VisualEditor: Impossible to copypaste a specific template across windows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226374 (10matmarex) This happens because the template HTML starts with a `