[00:03:22] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Investigate VE as default A/B test findings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232175 (10ppelberg) [00:03:59] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Investigate VE as default A/B test findings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232175 (10ppelberg) [00:04:01] 10VisualEditor, 10Epic: Test visual editor as the default mobile editor on select wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227338 (10ppelberg) [00:04:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Mobile page goes blank or flickers briefly when loading VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230552 (10matmarex) Still frames from the video in T230552#5433068: | {F30233444} | {F30233442} | {F30233443} | {F30233445} Frames 2 and 3 should not be here. I ex... [00:04:55] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Mobile page goes blank or flickers briefly when loading VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230552 (10matmarex) [00:04:57] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TemplateWizard: TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232168 (10Krinkle) a:05Krinkle→03None [00:05:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Investigate VE as default A/B test findings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232175 (10ppelberg) >>! In T229426#5453218, @ppelberg wrote: > During our 28 August team planning meeting, we discussed the initial results from the A/B test. Below is an unranked l... [00:16:09] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TemplateWizard: TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232168 (10AlgorithmGG) Thanks for responding @AKlapper To be honest I followed the instructions in the Template wizard found below. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help... [00:17:10] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (0b17a137b) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/534551 (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:19:11] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (0b17a137b) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/534551 (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:26:34] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TemplateWizard: TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232168 (10Samwilson) Which wiki are you using it on, and which template are you trying to insert? If it's English Wikipedia, then most infoboxes have templatedata defi... [00:35:53] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TemplateWizard: TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232168 (10AlgorithmGG) Hi @Samwilson I am using the latest stable version I am comfortable doing it. I used the stable version of TemplateData, when that failed I used... [01:41:44] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Check on VE as default A/B test results - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229426 (10ppelberg) >>! In T229426#5463187, @kzimmerman wrote: > ...Are the notes from discussion potential future tasks? @kzimmerman, yep. Althou... [04:49:46] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Wikimedia-User-Group-Basque, 10User-Ryasmeen: Make visual editor the default editor for redlinks at euwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T223705 (10Urbanecm) 05Open→03Resolved I think so! [05:07:02] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/534722 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [07:04:40] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TemplateWizard: TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232168 (10Aklapper) Hi @AlgorithmGG, please answer all my questions that I asked in T232168#5470065. Thanks! [07:39:22] 10Cite, 10Reference Previews: Collapsed string of note marks (aka references) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224741 (10awight) Just an off-the-bat suggestion: Keep multiple footnote markers, as in T224741#5227188, but make them clickable as a group, popping up a reference preview pane with all reference... [07:40:59] 10Cite, 10Reference Previews: Collapsed string of note marks (aka references) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224741 (10awight) Also, I'd love to give the footnotes click area a wide margin, e.g. 10px. Somehow this should take second priority to any other links in the text, z-index won't work but maybe t... [08:48:06] 10WikiEditor: Selection of text misses starting character(s) for complex scripts like Telugu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228611 (10Aklapper) > You can try if possible in your linux machine. I guess I'd need clearer steps which input method this refers to, plus information which keys I'd have to press o... [10:08:02] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TemplateWizard: TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232168 (10AlgorithmGG) @Aklapper Sorry I missed the question? [10:46:39] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TemplateWizard: TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232168 (10Aklapper) @AlgorithmGG: > Which exact MediaWiki version and which TemplateData and TemplateWizard versions is this about? [10:55:22] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TemplateWizard: TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232168 (10AlgorithmGG) @Aklapper the stable version of mediawiki 1.33.0 TemplateData version 0.1.2 (7ffe97a) TemplateWizard version 0.1.0 (096f34e) what versions shoul... [12:15:20] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Editing QA, 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.22; 2019-09-10), 10Regression, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Scroll-past-infobox code not working anymore - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232136 (10Esanders) [12:19:30] 10VisualEditor, 10OOUI, 10Design: Remove borders from toolbars in WMUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232003 (10Esanders) I don't think the action toolbar tools (on the right) need borders, see other page-level toolbars (top rows): >>! In T231815#5459454, @Esanders wrote: > Comparative analysis: > >... [12:23:13] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Design, 10Patch-For-Review: Consider removing toolbar borders - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T231815 (10Esanders) Updated the prototype with more compact dropdown indicators (75%): 320px: {F30236814,width=100%} 360px: {F30236816,width=100%} [12:25:31] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Check on VE as default A/B test results - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229426 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) >>! In T229426#5470251, @ppelberg wrote: > @MNeisler + @Neil_P._Quinn_WMF, thanks for pulling these results together.... [13:45:16] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Editing QA, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Auto-save not working when editing lede section on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T231825 (10matmarex) [13:45:26] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Editing QA, and 4 others: References pasted from read mode should be dropped until we can support them properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150418 (10matmarex) [13:46:36] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Editing QA, 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.22; 2019-09-10), 10VisualEditor (Current work): If logged out, editing lede section with an infobox takes you to the infobox, not the first paragraph - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T231848 (10matmarex) [15:18:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics: Edit Cards v3: instrumentation post-deployment data checks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230367 (10ppelberg) [15:19:22] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics: Edit Cards v3: instrumentation post-deployment data checks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230367 (10ppelberg) Updates to description: - Adding details about the additional event that was added in Edit Card v3 and will need to be chec... [16:29:20] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10Product-Analytics: Analyze impact of mobile visual editor structured workflows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221728 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) a:03MNeisler [16:30:36] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Product-Analytics, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Instrument each step of mobile VE edit flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229079 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) [17:11:57] 10Cite, 10Parsoid-Read-Views, 10Parsoid-Rendering: Add wiki-specific CSS styles for Parsoid Cite output so that it renders exactly like core Cite output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156351 (10ssastry) [17:12:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10Product-Analytics: Analyze impact of mobile visual editor structured workflows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221728 (10ppelberg) Our Edit Cards analysis is intended to come to conclusions about the following "Hypotheses" and answer the following "Research... [17:12:56] 10Cite, 10Parsoid-Read-Views, 10Parsoid-Rendering: Add wiki-specific CSS styles for Parsoid Cite output so that it renders exactly like core Cite output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156351 (10ssastry) 05Open→03Stalled [17:12:58] 10Cite, 10Parsoid-Read-Views, 10Parsoid-Rendering: Add language-specific CSS modules for Parsoid's Cite output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156350 (10ssastry) [17:13:12] 10Cite, 10Parsoid-Read-Views, 10Parsoid-Rendering: Add language-specific CSS modules for Parsoid's Cite output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156350 (10ssastry) 05Open→03Stalled [17:25:16] 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10VisualEditor (Current work): Edit cards: create measurement specifications and experiment plan - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221246 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) [17:25:40] 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10VisualEditor (Current work): Edit cards: create measurement specifications and experiment plan - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221246 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) Moving the details of the measure plan to T221728. [17:34:13] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Design, 10Patch-For-Review: Consider removing toolbar borders - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T231815 (10iamjessklein) What would it look like if we: 1. remove the chevron's completely from the type dropdown? 2. replace the VE/Wikitext dropdown ic... [17:35:45] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10Product-Analytics: Analyze impact of mobile visual editor structured workflows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221728 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) [17:44:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Edit Cards , 10Product-Analytics: Analyze impact of mobile visual editor structured workflows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221728 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) I just consolidated our different experiment plans into the task description here. >>! In T221728#5471720, @ppelberg...