[00:02:22] 10Cite, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.8; 2019-11-26), 10Patch-For-Review, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20, 10Wikimedia-production-error: "PHP Notice: Undefined index: key" and similar in Cite.php and ReferenceStack.php - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240248 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Not fully fixed yet. :-( [00:16:54] 10Cite, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.8; 2019-11-26), 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20, 10Wikimedia-Incident, 10Wikimedia-production-error: "PHP Notice: Undefined index: key" and similar in Cite.php and ReferenceStack.php - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240248 (10awight) Draft of incident report: https... [00:18:39] 10Cite, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.8; 2019-11-26), 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20, 10Wikimedia-Incident, 10Wikimedia-production-error: "PHP Notice: Undefined index: key" and similar in Cite.php and ReferenceStack.php - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240248 (10brennen) [00:25:32] 10Cite, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.8; 2019-11-26), 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20, 10Wikimedia-Incident, 10Wikimedia-production-error: "PHP Notice: Undefined index: key" and similar in Cite.php and ReferenceStack.php - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240248 (10awight) @thiemowmde @WMDE-Fisch This ha... [01:04:50] 10Cite: More specific Cite error categories - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240304 (10Reedy) [01:15:10] 10Cite, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.8; 2019-11-26), 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20, 10Wikimedia-Incident, 10Wikimedia-production-error: "PHP Notice: Undefined index: key" and similar in Cite.php and ReferenceStack.php - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240248 (10Reedy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta... [01:17:49] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: Create mockups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235592 (10ppelberg) [01:19:42] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: Create mockups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235592 (10ppelberg) **Task description update** - ADDING: Click "Cancel" and not need to worry my drafted comment will be discarded without confirming my intent - ADDING: Navigate away from web pag... [01:46:58] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10TCB-Team, 10WMDE-Design, and 4 others: More edge case handling for "extends" parameter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151305 (10Izno) >>! In T151305#5723309, @awight wrote: > I think we should forbid `extends` inside the references tag. I'd like to provide feedback, but... [02:15:01] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 10GrowthExperiments-Homepage, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents, and 6 others: Propagate editing_session_id and oversampling flag from newcomer homepage to EditAttemptStep - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238249 (10MMiller_WMF) 05Open→03Resolved I have been succes... [03:27:42] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Enhance the VisualEditor table editor to allow sorting and saving sorted tables - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240114 (10Xaosflux) [03:32:41] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Enhance the VisualEditor table editor to allow sorting and saving sorted tables - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240114 (10Xaosflux) [07:21:11] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid removes all newlines from the page when editing a table inside a list item `:{|` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240280 (10ssastry) 05Open→03Invalid [07:54:00] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10TCB-Team, 10WMDE-Design, and 4 others: More edge case handling for "extends" parameter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151305 (10awight) >>! In T151305#5726751, @Izno wrote: >>>! In T151305#5723309, @awight wrote: >> I think we should forbid `extends` inside the reference... [08:19:21] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Implement `unload handlers` for compose - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240259 (10Schnark) See https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/js/#!/api/mw-method-confirmCloseWindow [08:32:01] 10Cite, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.8; 2019-11-26), 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20, 10Wikimedia-Incident, 10Wikimedia-production-error: "PHP Notice: Undefined index: key" and similar in Cite.php and ReferenceStack.php - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240248 (10awight) Here's a test request which has... [09:44:43] 10VisualEditor: Browser spellchecking broken in VE for words with special characters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240327 (10Schnark) [10:21:39] 10Citoid: Keep anchor when generating reference from URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212608 (10Mvolz) >>! In T212608#5644908, @Tkarcher wrote: > > Wouldn't it be an easy solution to just keep whatever URL was entered in the first place? It sure would! In fact, that's how it used to be. The reason we... [10:36:30] 10Citoid: Keep anchor when generating reference from URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212608 (10Tgr) Use the short URL, keep the anchor? It's not typically used for tracking (although in theory it could). If you want to be super paranoid, maybe verify that there's a HTML id matching the anchor. (Note tho... [14:44:53] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser, 10ParserFunctions: {{#expr: expression }} breaks references in the whole article if expression throws an error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240345 (10Reedy) [14:46:15] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser, 10ParserFunctions, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: {{#expr: expression }} breaks references in the whole article if expression throws an error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240345 (10Reedy) >Since yesterday there is no reference in the references tag. I'm guessing this... [14:50:14] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser, 10ParserFunctions, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: {{#expr: expression }} breaks references in the whole article if expression throws an error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240345 (10Dvorapa) [14:52:15] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser, 10ParserFunctions, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: {{#expr: expression }} breaks references in the whole article if expression throws an error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240345 (10Dvorapa) [14:52:31] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser, 10ParserFunctions, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: {{#expr: expression }} breaks references in the whole article if expression throws an error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240345 (10Dvorapa) [14:52:33] 10VisualEditor: Browser spellchecking broken in VE for words with special characters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240327 (10Esanders) > VE seems to insert some invisible word breaks before the umlauts What are you seeing in the DOM? An actual or a segmented text node, or neither? [14:52:58] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser, 10ParserFunctions, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: {{#expr: expression }} breaks references in the whole article if expression throws an error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240345 (10Dvorapa) [14:53:28] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Add auto-save to the reply widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240257 (10Esanders) [15:14:16] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Open - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240041 (10Vargas04) p:05Triage→03Unbreak! [15:14:22] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: wgPostEdit does not work with VE or 2017 wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240041 (10Vargas04) p:05Unbreak!→03Triage [15:15:42] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: wgPostEdit does not work with VE or 2017 wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240041 (10Vargas04) p:05Triage→03Unbreak! [15:22:21] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Add auto-save to the reply widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240257 (10Jc86035) What happens if the parent comment is deleted or moved? Will the reply be discarded? [15:44:05] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Warn contributors before they discard a draft - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240271 (10Esanders) These are the default messages for AbandonEdit, which we can override: {F31465518} Note that we will eventually have at least... [15:47:45] 10Cite, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.8; 2019-11-26), 10Patch-For-Review, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20, and 2 others: "PHP Notice: Undefined index: key" and similar in Cite.php and ReferenceStack.php - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240248 (10thiemowmde) What we have done so far: * Some of the errors... [16:09:54] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Warn contributors before they discard a draft - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240271 (10ppelberg) >>! In T240271#5728480, @Esanders wrote: > These are the default messages for AbandonEdit, which we can override: > {F31465518... [16:31:40] Hello [16:32:30] I've installed visual editor on a machine behind a proxy and I've got 500 errors. Does the editor needs to be connected to internet to work? [16:35:21] I read the "Troubleshooting" guide on the Wiki but it does not help me [16:45:13] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Determine our approach for v1.0 for displaying date and time a comment was made, in a user's local timezone and preferred date format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240360 (10marcella) [16:58:47] 10Editing-team, 10Growth-Team, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Audit notifications received by new users upon opening the editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229887 (10marcella) [17:10:04] 10VisualEditor, 10Cloud-VPS (Debian Jessie Deprecation): "visualeditor" Cloud VPS project jessie deprecation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236548 (10DLynch) > Maybe a good first step would be to make a new server and see there's any problems getting vagrant going on it, then we can move to migrating nee... [17:19:43] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid removes all newlines from the page when editing a table inside a list item `:{|` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240280 (10Esanders) Being able to corrupt the entire document just because of some unbalanced wikitext elsewhere on the page seems less than ideal... [17:39:38] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid removes all newlines from the page when editing a table inside a list item `:{|` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240280 (10Arlolra) Maybe we should consider marking fostered content such that it is uneditable? [17:40:02] 10VisualEditor, 10Cloud-VPS (Debian Jessie Deprecation): "visualeditor" Cloud VPS project jessie deprecation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236548 (10Esanders) @bd808 We're in the middle of migrating visualeditor-prototype2 and visualeditor-test2, but would like an extension as we have a lot of important... [18:16:15] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser, 10ParserFunctions, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: {{#expr: expression }} breaks references in the whole article if expression throws an error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240345 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:16:30] 10Cite, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.8; 2019-11-26), 10Patch-For-Review, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20, and 2 others: "PHP Notice: Undefined index: key" and similar in Cite.php and ReferenceStack.php - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240248 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:18:54] 10Cite, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.8; 2019-11-26), 10Patch-For-Review, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20, and 2 others: "PHP Notice: Undefined index: key" and similar in Cite.php and ReferenceStack.php - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240248 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open→03Resolved Provisionally declar... [18:23:20] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser, 10ParserFunctions, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: {{#expr: expression }} breaks references in the whole article if expression throws an error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240345 (10Reedy) Is this still broken now T240248 is probably fixed? [18:23:27] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Conduct a control test of as-is reply workflow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239175 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) > Cancelling out of task mid-edit Which editing environment were these people using? [18:33:58] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: wgPostEdit does not work with VE or 2017 wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240041 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Unbreak!→03Triage Leaving to the team to triage. Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management... [19:24:39] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser, 10ParserFunctions, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: {{#expr: expression }} breaks references in the whole article if expression throws an error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240345 (10Vachovec1) >>! In T240345#5728991, @Reedy wrote: > Is this still broken now T240248 is p... [19:28:00] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser, 10ParserFunctions, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: {{#expr: expression }} breaks references in the whole article if expression throws an error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240345 (10Reedy) p:05Unbreak!→03High [19:55:23] 10VisualEditor: No need to replace empty values with autovalue in parameters that already exist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240372 (10putnik) [19:56:15] 10VisualEditor: VE shoudn't replace empty values with autovalue in parameters that already exist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240372 (10putnik) [20:04:02] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Add auto-save to the reply widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240257 (10ppelberg) >>! In T240257#5728421, @Jc86035 wrote: > What happens if the parent comment is deleted or moved? Will the reply be discarded? Or is it expected that the user will only be... [20:04:30] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Add auto-save to the reply widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240257 (10ppelberg) [20:14:47] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Add auto-save to the reply widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240257 (10ppelberg) === Update: 10-Dec **Approach to auto-save:** For v1.0 of replying, we are planning to take a "disaster recovery" approach (read: `sessions storage`) to auto-save. This... [20:16:18] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Add auto-save to the reply widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240257 (10ppelberg) [20:42:02] 10Cite, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.10; 2019-12-10), 10Patch-For-Review, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20, and 2 others: "PHP Notice: Undefined index: key" and similar in Cite.php and ReferenceStack.php - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240248 (10TheDJ) That was an awesome explanation @thiemowmde ! I gue... [20:55:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: wgPostEdit does not work with VE or 2017 wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240041 (10Nirmos) [21:05:12] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Determine target wikis for project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T233627 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) I'm talking to a couple of editors at the French and Hungarian Wikipedias. They are going to take my request to their communities, so we are in a wait...