[00:01:45] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Release-Engineering-Team-TODO, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Deploy DiscussionTools to Wikimedia production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240470 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [00:01:47] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020, 10Patch-For-Review, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Deploy DiscussionTools to beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240468 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Jdforrester-WMF [00:01:49] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): [Spike] How do we have a test instance that supports a relatively larger number of people testing prototypes? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240063 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [00:32:58] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update OOUI to v0.36.1 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/556507 [00:49:45] (03CR) 10VolkerE: "hmm, why are the SVGs not prettified?" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/556507 (owner: 10Jforrester) [01:01:30] (03CR) 10VolkerE: [C: 03+2] Update OOUI to v0.36.1 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/556507 (owner: 10Jforrester) [01:03:21] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update OOUI to v0.36.1 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/556507 (owner: 10Jforrester) [01:04:01] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (b1617fdca) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/555631 [01:04:08] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Use mw.Api#getErrorMessage instead of custom handling [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/556510 [01:06:36] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use mw.Api#getErrorMessage instead of custom handling [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/556510 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [01:09:02] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10MediaWiki-General: Upstream API error handling from VisualEditor to MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240519 (10matmarex) [01:10:00] (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Use mw.Api#getErrorMessage instead of custom handling [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/556510 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240519) [01:19:14] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Update VE core submodule to master (b1617fdca) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/555631 (owner: 10Jforrester) [01:24:27] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use mw.Api#getErrorMessage instead of custom handling [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/556510 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240519) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [01:34:17] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] Support wikitext link editing (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/550359 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:34:29] (03PS14) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Support wikitext link editing [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/550359 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:34:41] (03PS4) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Wikitext links: File/Category support [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/554128 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:34:49] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 03+2] Wikitext links: File/Category support [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/554128 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:34:57] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 03+2] Support wikitext link editing [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/550359 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:47:09] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Support wikitext link editing [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/550359 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:49:22] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Wikitext links: File/Category support [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/554128 (owner: 10Esanders) [02:44:55] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: conduct usability testing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236921 (10iamjessklein) [02:47:07] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Conduct a control test of as-is reply workflow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239175 (10iamjessklein) @Whatamidoing-WMF this is the current state (no changes - no reply button) and is a mix of mobile and desktop web users. [02:49:34] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: conduct usability testing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236921 (10iamjessklein) I launched the tests on usertesting.com. The idea is that these tests will be identical to the control test conditions T239175 except that they are using the new l... [08:06:48] 10WikiEditor, 10Documentation: "The button for adding user signatures (four tildes) is available on talk pages and in namespaces specified in $wgExtraSignatureNamespaces." appears to be invalid for current versions. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240448 (10Wikinaut) I had to deactivate the delete command... [08:24:44] 10WikiEditor, 10Documentation: "The button for adding user signatures (four tildes) is available on talk pages and in namespaces specified in $wgExtraSignatureNamespaces." appears to be invalid for current versions. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240448 (10Wikinaut) It's not correctly working: We have i... [08:25:19] 10WikiEditor, 10Documentation: "The button for adding user signatures (four tildes) is available on talk pages and in namespaces specified in $wgExtraSignatureNamespaces." appears to be invalid for current versions. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240448 (10Wikinaut) 05Invalid→03Open Reopened, because... [08:28:42] 10WikiEditor, 10Documentation: "The button for adding user signatures (four tildes) is available on talk pages and in namespaces specified in $wgExtraSignatureNamespaces." appears to be invalid for current versions. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240448 (10Wikinaut) It appears to be an issue of the corre... [08:29:39] 10WikiEditor, 10Documentation: "The button for adding user signatures (four tildes) is available on talk pages and in namespaces specified in $wgExtraSignatureNamespaces." appears to be invalid for current versions. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240448 (10Wikinaut) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Wikinaut I... [08:33:48] 10WikiEditor, 10Documentation: "The button for adding user signatures (four tildes) is available on talk pages and in namespaces specified in $wgExtraSignatureNamespaces." appears to be invalid for current versions. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240448 (10Wikinaut) @Aklapper: Additional quesion: is ther... [09:13:04] 10VisualEditor: Adding {{other uses}} before an infobox doesn't add a proper line break - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240538 (10Amire80) [10:42:38] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Team, 10Regression: References with no visible content are reported as empty now - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240548 (10thiemowmde) [12:05:17] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation, 10Language-Team (Language-2019-October-December): Blank page when CX is used without Cite - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236802 (10Pginer-WMF) [12:05:17] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation, 10Language-Team (Language-2019-October-December): Blank page when CX is used without Cite - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236802 (10Pginer-WMF) [12:05:50] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation, 10Language-Team (Language-2019-October-December): Blank page when CX is used without Cite - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236802 (10Pginer-WMF) p:05Triage→03Low [12:05:51] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation, 10Language-Team (Language-2019-October-December): Blank page when CX is used without Cite - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236802 (10Pginer-WMF) p:05Triage→03Low [12:07:42] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Determine our approach for v1.0 for displaying date and time a comment was made, in a user's local timezone and preferred date format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240360 (10AronManning) Personal views: # I think "**Browser-... [12:07:43] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Determine our approach for v1.0 for displaying date and time a comment was made, in a user's local timezone and preferred date format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240360 (10AronManning) Personal views: # I think "**Browser-... [12:13:57] 10WikiEditor, 10Documentation: Incorrect array syntax for $wgExtraSignatureNamespaces." in docs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240448 (10Aklapper) [12:13:57] 10WikiEditor, 10Documentation: Incorrect array syntax for $wgExtraSignatureNamespaces." in docs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240448 (10Aklapper) [12:14:03] 10WikiEditor, 10Documentation: Incorrect array syntax for $wgExtraSignatureNamespaces in docs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240448 (10Aklapper) [12:14:04] 10WikiEditor, 10Documentation: Incorrect array syntax for $wgExtraSignatureNamespaces in docs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240448 (10Aklapper) [12:16:52] 10WikiEditor, 10Documentation: Incorrect array syntax for $wgExtraSignatureNamespaces in docs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240448 (10Aklapper) @Wikinaut: Not sure why you're asking **me** specifically. :) For "How to...?" questions, please ask on the [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_de... [12:16:54] 10WikiEditor, 10Documentation: Incorrect array syntax for $wgExtraSignatureNamespaces in docs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240448 (10Aklapper) @Wikinaut: Not sure why you're asking **me** specifically. :) For "How to...?" questions, please ask on the [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_de... [14:22:10] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10Parsing-Team, 10WMDE-Design, 10Design: [Spike] Decide how to guarantee Cite footnote body numbering - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239911 (10awight) >>! In T239911#5734326, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: > To my knowldge, Parsoid's DOM output renders correctly (for certain va... [14:23:46] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10Parsing-Team, 10WMDE-Design, 10Design: [Spike] Decide how to guarantee Cite footnote body numbering - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239911 (10awight) I don't see this being incompatible with Cite subreferencing, we could simply include two CSS list counters at each foot... [15:13:04] 10WikiEditor, 10Documentation: Incorrect array syntax for $wgExtraSignatureNamespaces in docs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240448 (10Wikinaut) (I already did so, see here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Vct1uox3qprm3eak ) [16:39:18] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020: [SPIKE] What talk-related events are being tracked? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239328 (10ppelberg) The information you shared in T239328#5707395 is helpful – thank you, @DLynch. I've included the ideas/questions you raised as comments in the [OWC/Measurement Plan/Replying](... [16:43:12] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Add auto-save to the reply widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240257 (10Jc86035) [17:50:54] (03PS5) 10DLynch: [WIP] Completion framework [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/540436 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232601) [17:55:21] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] Completion framework [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/540436 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232601) (owner: 10DLynch) [17:59:38] (03CR) 10DLynch: "recheck" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/540436 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232601) (owner: 10DLynch) [18:04:21] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] Completion framework [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/540436 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232601) (owner: 10DLynch) [18:05:22] (03CR) 10DLynch: "Failure seems to be FirefoxHeadless being broken." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/540436 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232601) (owner: 10DLynch) [18:09:22] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid removes all newlines from the page when editing a table inside a list item `:{|` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240280 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) > Maybe we should consider marking fostered content such that it is uneditable? Maybe? I think that something needs to be done a... [18:21:16] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid removes all newlines from the page when editing a table inside a list item `:{|` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240280 (10DLynch) I'm not convinced this should be invalid -- it's a pretty bad page-corruption issue if bad wikitext goes through Parsoid. [18:23:44] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid removes all newlines from the page when editing a table inside a list item `:{|` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240280 (10ssastry) Fostered markup and dealing with the mess it creates has been one of the biggest sources of complexity in the parsoid codebase. We handle a... [18:28:22] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid removes all newlines from the page when editing a table inside a list item `:{|` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240280 (10ssastry) >>! In T240280#5737052, @DLynch wrote: > I'm not convinced this should be invalid -- it's a pretty bad page-corruption issue if bad wikitex... [18:43:04] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid removes all newlines from the page when editing a table inside a list item `:{|` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240280 (10Esanders) I think what makes this case unique is that the failure is so catastrophic. The entirety of the page (or just after the table?) gets corru... [18:47:12] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid removes all newlines from the page when editing a table inside a list item `:{|` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240280 (10ssastry) >>! In T240280#5737136, @Esanders wrote: > I think what makes this case unique is that the failure is so catastrophic. The entirety of the... [19:22:43] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10OWC2020: How should DiscussionTools be released? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240607 (10ppelberg) [19:23:57] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10OWC2020: How should DiscussionTools be released? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240607 (10ppelberg) [19:35:16] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid removes all newlines from the page when editing a table inside a list item `:{|` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240280 (10DLynch) > Is it just that list item pr everything else on the page beyond the list item? Reading the title and description, I got the impression it... [19:57:58] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid removes all newlines from the page when editing a table inside a list item `:{|` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240280 (10Esanders) In [[ http://visualeditor-prototype.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AReply_test&type=revision&diff=579&oldid=578 | this example ]] a l... [19:58:39] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid removes all newlines from the page when editing a table inside a list item `:{|` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240280 (10Esanders) 05Invalid→03Open (re-opening as the discussion is active) [20:08:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Autolinking for URLs and magic links (ISBN etc.) not applied when copy-pasting a block of text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162291 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) Given that these magic links were removed a couple of years ago, it doesn't seem... [20:16:23] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Multi-Content-Revisions, 10TechCom, and 4 others: Standardise a control for switching diff types from side by side to inline/visual - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240608 (10Jdlrobson) [20:21:47] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Multi-Content-Revisions, 10TechCom, and 5 others: Standardise a control for switching diff types from side by side to inline/visual - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240608 (10Esanders) > Designers: Is the ButtonWidget appropriate here The current widget is a B... [20:23:54] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Multi-Content-Revisions, 10TechCom, and 5 others: Standardise a control for switching diff types from side by side to inline/visual - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240608 (10Esanders) NB we also use this control in the save dialog {F31474023} [20:24:59] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Multi-Content-Revisions, 10TechCom, and 5 others: Standardise a control for switching diff types from side by side to inline/visual - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240608 (10Jdlrobson) Is there any reason not to fold the code in VisualEditor into core and hook... [20:42:55] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: conduct usability testing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236921 (10ppelberg) [20:43:14] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: conduct usability testing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236921 (10ppelberg) **Updating task description** - ADDED: "Confirm prototype is working as it should on [beta labs](https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Talk:Dog)" [20:44:17] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: conduct usability testing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236921 (10ppelberg) [20:45:04] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: conduct usability testing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236921 (10ppelberg) [21:16:13] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020, 10Verified: [Pre-deployment testing] Getting error " Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'then' of undefined" while replying to a nested reply - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239864 (10Ryasmeen) This seems to be working now for me. [21:16:17] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020, 10Verified: [Pre-deployment testing] Getting error " Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'then' of undefined" while replying to a nested reply - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239864 (10Ryasmeen) [23:13:08] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Highlighting of the replies is incorrect on Beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240639 (10Ryasmeen) [23:13:50] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Highlighting of the replies is incorrect on Beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240639 (10Ryasmeen) [23:23:08] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: [Feedback] Not supporting adding multiple signatures in a comment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240640 (10Ryasmeen) [23:24:38] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: [Feedback] Not supporting adding multiple signatures in a comment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240640 (10Ryasmeen) [23:52:03] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: One of the replies get lost during a race condition - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240643 (10Ryasmeen) [23:52:30] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: One of the replies get lost during a race condition - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240643 (10Ryasmeen) [23:56:08] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: One of the replies get lost during a race condition - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240643 (10Ryasmeen) [23:56:36] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: One of the replies get lost during a race condition - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240643 (10Ryasmeen)