[00:21:39] 10VisualEditor, 10Browser-Support-Firefox: Press backspace to remove a space before a colon make any chars typed then not considered while publishing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241906 (10matmarex) I can reproduce this. Example test page: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avant_et..._après?veaction=edit... [00:39:25] 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Press backspace to remove a space before a colon make any chars typed then not considered while publishing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241906 (10matmarex) a:03matmarex [00:41:49] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Add handling for mw:DisplaySpace [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562663 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241906) [00:48:19] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: conduct usability testing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236921 (10ppelberg) [00:48:21] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): [Spike] How do we have a test instance that supports a relatively larger number of people testing prototypes? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240063 (10ppelberg) 05Open→03Resolved a:03ppelberg I am marking this as resolved considering the p... [00:51:27] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Security Readiness Reviews, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Security Review For Talk pages project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242134 (10ppelberg) [00:52:26] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Security Readiness Reviews: Security review for the DiscussionTools extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240472 (10ppelberg) >>! In T240472#5732648, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: >>>! In T240472#5732642, @sbassett wrote: >> Friendly reminder: https://www.mediawiki.org... [00:53:05] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Security Readiness Reviews, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Security Review For Talk pages project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242134 (10ppelberg) [00:53:09] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Security Readiness Reviews: Security review for the DiscussionTools extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240472 (10ppelberg) [00:54:59] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Thanks for updating the patch, I'll take a closer look tomorrow to see how all remaining possible notices behave." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/561673 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241693) (owner: 10Lens0021) [01:07:11] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10ppelberg) [01:09:31] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Abandon changes dialog appears unexpectedly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241393 (10ppelberg) [01:09:47] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Unable to respond to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241391 (10ppelberg) [01:10:08] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): When inserting {{welcome}} reply preview is different to saved content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241388 (10ppelberg) [01:13:12] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Security Readiness Reviews: Security review for the DiscussionTools extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240472 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T240472#5784632, @ppelberg wrote: >>>! In T240472#5732648, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: >> Yes, I'm creating this task structura... [01:13:51] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10ppelberg) [01:14:16] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10ppelberg) [01:16:07] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: Create mockups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235592 (10ppelberg) [01:16:54] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: Create mockups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235592 (10ppelberg) **Task description update** - ADDING: Know my IP address will be published along with my comment if I do not log in or create an account [1] --- 1. The above has already been d... [01:18:59] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10ppelberg) [01:21:51] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools: Undertake and pass a security review for the DiscussionTools extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240471 (10ppelberg) [01:21:53] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Security Readiness Reviews: Security review for the DiscussionTools extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240472 (10ppelberg) 05duplicate→03Open [01:22:55] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Security Readiness Reviews, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Security Review For Talk pages project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242134 (10ppelberg) [01:22:57] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Security Readiness Reviews: Security review for the DiscussionTools extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240472 (10ppelberg) [01:24:03] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Security Readiness Reviews: Security review for the DiscussionTools extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240472 (10ppelberg) >>! In T240472#5784670, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: > Then you should put that task into the hierarchy that it's blocking. (Also, you should... [01:24:57] 10VisualEditor: Simple page transclusions are wrongly treated as templates in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241933 (10matmarex) We handle all transclusions in the same way, whether the page is in the Template namespace or not. The dialog talks about "templates" because that's easier to unders... [01:35:04] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10ppelberg) [02:16:14] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Create mockup for a new approach to previewing a reply - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238177 (10ppelberg) [02:21:56] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10ppelberg) [02:39:03] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Create a change tag for edits made using DiscussionTools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242184 (10ppelberg) [02:39:37] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10ppelberg) [02:46:08] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10ppelberg) [06:10:09] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10ppelberg) [06:10:17] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10ppelberg) [08:51:38] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Team, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-12-11, 10Wikimedia-Incident: Retrospective and learnings from the Parser/Cite clone incident - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240671 (10WMDE-Fisch) I scheduled a little retro session for next Monday. [10:27:09] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): When inserting {{welcome}} reply preview is different to saved content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241388 (10Jc86035) >>! In T241388#5779747, @ppelberg wrote: > @Jc86035, are you able to expand on the "reliable" point a b... [10:33:47] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10Book-Referencing, 10TCB-Team, 10German-Community-Wishlist: Make VisualEditor compatible with "extends" parameter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151308 (10thiemowmde) I had a quick look at the #parsoid code. What I found worries me a little bit: * Parsoid does indeed **not*... [12:36:16] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10MediaWiki-Parser, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.14; 2020-01-07), and 4 others: does not work anymore - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241303 (10WMDE-Fisch) 05Open→03Resolved Deployed and back-ported, should be fine now. [12:39:24] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Technical-Debt, and 3 others: Clean up implementation for "follow" cases - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240858 (10WMDE-Fisch) [12:40:31] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10TCB-Team, 10WMDE-Design, and 5 others: Decide whether to support "extends" in the references section - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240424 (10WMDE-Fisch) [12:43:49] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Technical-Debt, and 3 others: Clean up implementation for "follow" cases - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240858 (10awight) [12:48:04] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10TCB-Team, 10WMDE-Design, and 5 others: Decide whether to support "extends" in the references section - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240424 (10awight) Just a note during sprint planning: I think we can omit this feature from the MVP, by agreeing to always error if a ref i... [12:50:17] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Team, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.14; 2020-01-07), and 3 others: Bad numbering of reused sub-references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242110 (10WMDE-Fisch) [12:50:45] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Team, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-12-11, and 2 others: Retrospective and learnings from the Parser/Cite clone incident - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240671 (10WMDE-Fisch) [13:01:58] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10TCB-Team, 10WMDE-Design, and 5 others: Decide whether to support "extends" in the references section - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240424 (10WMDE-Fisch) 05Open→03Resolved For now we decided on supporting this feature by using the technique described in {T242141}. We... [13:03:21] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Team, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2020-01-08: Bad numbering when reusing a sub-reference before it's defined - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242141 (10WMDE-Fisch) [13:03:23] 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10Editing QA, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.11; 2019-12-17), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Collapsible elements are not visible in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236247 (10ti_infotrad) Sorry for the delay. I confirm the fix functions as expected. [15:56:59] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing: Edge case: don't allow following a subreference - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242227 (10awight) [15:58:34] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing: Edge case: don't allow following a subreference - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242227 (10awight) [15:58:42] (03CR) 10Tchanders: ApiVisualEditor.php: Add notices also when not blocked (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/561673 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241693) (owner: 10Lens0021) [16:16:19] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10Security-Team, 10User-Ryasmeen: Security review of Citoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98096 (10chasemp) [16:22:25] 10Citoid: Bloomberg - Are you a robot? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210871 (10Coffeeandcrumbs) In the mean time, we should at least force the user to do it manually. Much like how Washingtonpost.com fails to generate. [16:58:36] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: doc: Point to gerrit, not Phabricator Diffusion [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562872 [17:05:42] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: doc: Point to gerrit, not Phabricator Diffusion [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562874 [17:05:43] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: doc: Update copyright statement for new year [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562875 [17:45:03] 10WikiEditor, 10Accessibility: [Accessibility] Form elements must have labels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242246 (10Akinwale-microsoft) [18:49:40] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10Book-Referencing, 10TCB-Team, 10German-Community-Wishlist: Make VisualEditor compatible with "extends" parameter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151308 (10Izno) I honestly see the implementation of citation content (and other extensions) in Parsoid as technical debt to be c... [18:51:04] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Team, 10Regression: References with no visible content are reported as empty now - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240548 (10thiemowmde) * This is the same article that's already listed above, and the only one we know was affected. Are you aware of another one?... [21:17:01] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 03+2] Update OOUI to v0.36.2 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562641 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:19:17] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update OOUI to v0.36.2 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562641 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:23:49] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 03+2] doc: Bump copyright year for 2020 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562880 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:24:26] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 03+2] doc: Update copyright statement for new year [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562875 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:24:46] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 03+2] doc: Point to gerrit, not Phabricator Diffusion [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562874 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:24:54] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 03+2] doc: Point to gerrit, not Phabricator Diffusion [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562872 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:26:57] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: doc: Point to gerrit, not Phabricator Diffusion [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562874 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:27:13] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: doc: Update copyright statement for new year [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562875 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:27:15] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: doc: Point to gerrit, not Phabricator Diffusion [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562872 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:52:00] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 03+2] Add handling for mw:DisplaySpace [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562663 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241906) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [22:08:59] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Determine our approach for displaying date and time a comment was made, in a user's local timezone and preferred date format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240360 (10ppelberg) [22:11:02] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Determine our approach for displaying date and time a comment was made, in a user's local timezone and preferred date format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240360 (10ppelberg) As discussed during today's team meeting, we will... [22:11:25] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Determine our approach for displaying date and time a comment was made, in a user's local timezone and preferred date format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240360 (10ppelberg) [22:11:25] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v2.1: create mockups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236918 (10ppelberg) [22:11:27] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: Create mockups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235592 (10ppelberg) [22:13:10] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10ppelberg) Task description update per T240360#5788185: - **REMOVED**: //"T240360 | Determine our approach for v1.0 for displaying date and time... //" [22:13:13] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10ppelberg) [22:27:28] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: doc: Bump copyright year for 2020 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562880 (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:31:57] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add handling for mw:DisplaySpace [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/562663 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241906) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [22:57:11] 10Citoid: Bloomberg - Are you a robot? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210871 (10Xaosflux) Notably the behavior is different (and much worse) on VE then source editor. [23:12:15] 10Citoid: Citoid is changing the editors provided URL without notification - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210871 (10Xaosflux) [23:12:29] 10Citoid: Citoid is changing the editors provided URL without notification - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210871 (10Xaosflux) p:05Low→03Normal [23:14:30] 10Citoid: Citoid is overwriting editor provided values without notification - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210871 (10Xaosflux) [23:47:53] 10Citoid: Citoid is overwriting editor provided values without notification - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210871 (10Izno) [23:48:08] 10Citoid: Citoid is overwriting editor provided values without notification (was "Bloomberg - Are you a robot?") - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210871 (10Izno)