[00:45:24] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (57689b9ed) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/563001 [01:56:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: VisualEditor: Automatically use "smart quotes" and convert other typing to more advance characters (as an option) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40724 (10matmarex) VisualEditor now has a framework for implementing autocorrection (and more generally, doing t... [01:56:59] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 03+2] Update VE core submodule to master (57689b9ed) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/563001 (owner: 10Jforrester) [01:59:06] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "It could be useful for debugging RESTBase problems in other installation as well, I guess." [extensions/VisualEditor] (REL1_34) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/560452 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234564) (owner: 10Paladox) [02:06:54] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor should pre-parse subst: wikitext while loading templateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241586 (10matmarex) That could be reasonable… I think there are some caveats to consider: * The `subst:` would be expanded immediately while editing, rather than when t... [02:08:51] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (57689b9ed) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/563001 (owner: 10Jforrester) [02:16:21] 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.11; 2019-12-17), 10VisualEditor (Current work): Collapsible elements are not visible in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236247 (10matmarex) Thanks! [02:16:34] 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.11; 2019-12-17), 10Skipped QA, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Collapsible elements are not visible in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236247 (10matmarex) [02:34:19] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10Alsee) >>! In T235923#5761825, @ppelberg wrote: > Updating the task description to include the ideas @MMiller_WMF + @Whatamidoing-WMF raised during today's staff me... [03:21:14] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Determine our approach for displaying date and time a comment was made, in a user's local timezone and preferred date format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240360 (10Alsee) # Localized times will confuse and disrupt communica... [03:48:20] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Team, 10Regression: References with no visible content are reported as empty now - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240548 (10Alsee) I don't think I have ever before seen the software dump a message like this into an article, outside of preview or the reflist-blo... [04:00:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), 10Regression: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Masumrezarock100) [04:04:17] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), 10Regression: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Masumrezarock100) [04:07:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), 10Regression: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Masumrezarock100) [04:08:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), 10Regression: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Masumrezarock100) Adding the parent task's assignee as a subscriber. [04:21:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), 10Regression: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Masumrezarock100) [04:21:57] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), 10Regression: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Masumrezarock100) [04:24:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), 10Regression: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Masumrezarock100) [04:25:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), 10Regression: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Masumrezarock100) [05:11:28] 10VisualEditor, 10Cloud-VPS (Debian Jessie Deprecation): "visualeditor" Cloud VPS project jessie deprecation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236548 (10bd808) a:03Esanders [05:31:01] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.3; 2019-04-30), 10Skipped QA, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Editing timing data incorrect for second load - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217825 (10Alsee) @Esanders it looks like this task is specific to mobile-VE. Did or does the same exis... [06:39:04] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10VisualEditor-Mobile-UsabilityImprovements, 10Editing Design, 10MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.7; 2019-05-28), and 2 others: Mobile table editing should default to cell contents - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211240 (10DLynch) {F31505745} That's the experience with a mar... [06:41:24] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor should pre-parse subst: wikitext while loading templateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241586 (10NicoV) Yes, maybe other tools can consider doing this also? (I'm doing it in WPCleaner when inserting text) @Samwilson : what do you think for TemplateWizard? [09:52:55] 10Citoid: Consider keeping user entered URL and removing tracking parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242089 (10Mvolz) @Xaosflux I think this was what you were trying to report on the other task. [10:00:57] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Team, 10Regression: References with no visible content are reported as empty now - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240548 (10thiemowmde) Personally, I agree. But as said the feature behaves like this since 2005. There are some ideas how this can be improve... [10:02:23] 10Citoid, 10Security: Consider keeping user entered URL and removing tracking parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242089 (10Mvolz) [10:29:46] 10Cite, 10Analytics, 10Reference Previews, 10Research, and 3 others: Instrument Cite to record the nubmer of footnote marks and references list entries rendered in each article - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241833 (10awight) [10:49:31] 10Citoid, 10Security: Consider keeping user entered URL and removing tracking parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242089 (10Mvolz) [10:58:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror: 2017 wikitext editor shows incorrect output and source code - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240014 (10Aklapper) 05Open→03Declined Unfortunately closing this Phabricator task as no furt... [11:37:49] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Using VE to add a link to text that includes a template with , adds an unnecessary HTML blob - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242336 (10Amire80) [11:44:38] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Team, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.14; 2020-01-07), and 3 others: Bad numbering of reused sub-references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242110 (10WMDE-Fisch) Should we consider the task done now with the patch merged? Or what about the comment on the last patc... [11:55:53] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Using VE to add a link to text that includes a template with , adds an unnecessary HTML blob - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242336 (10ssastry) > This means that VE (or Parsoid) understands that a footnote is not supposed to appear in a link, and quietly truncates what the... [12:09:05] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Using VE to add a link to text that includes a template with , adds an unnecessary HTML blob - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242336 (10Amire80) Thanks for the explanation. As I noted in the description, I wasn't sure whether the truncating of the link before happens i... [12:19:08] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Team, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.15; 2020-01-14), and 2 others: Bad numbering of reused sub-references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242110 (10awight) >>! In T242110#5789469, @WMDE-Fisch wrote: > Should we consider the task done now with the patch merged? O... [12:22:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: VisualEditor: Automatically use "smart quotes" and convert other typing to more advance characters (as an option) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40724 (10XanonymusX) Hm, fair enough. Sounds a bit English-centered, but I get that the number of potentially su... [12:38:26] 10VisualEditor: Simple page transclusions are wrongly treated as templates in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241933 (10XanonymusX) Well, calling something a template when it’s not does look wrong to me. Plus, if it can’t be edited, giving users an edit dialogue is very misleading as well. Sure... [12:54:06] 10Citoid, 10Security: Consider keeping user entered URL and removing tracking parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242089 (10Xaosflux) @Mvolz in T210871 the problem isn't so much about "removing parameters" but it seems to be that the process is following third party redirects and then replacing the... [16:34:02] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2019-20-Q3), 10Regression: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Jdlrobson) p:05Triage→03Unbreak! a:03Jdlrobson Possibly deploy b... [16:42:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2019-20-Q3), 10Regression: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Masumrezarock100) >>! In T242310#5790039, @Jdlrobson wrote: > Possibly... [16:48:58] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2019-20-Q3), 10Regression: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Jdlrobson) It was QAed but we're only human :) There are lots of exten... [16:57:46] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2019-20-Q3), 10Regression: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Masumrezarock100) >>! In T242310#5790088, @Jdlrobson wrote: > The patr... [17:12:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10Mobile, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): VisualDiff mode button appears in diff pages (disabled) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242351 (10Jdlrobson) [17:13:14] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10Mobile, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): VisualDiff mode button appears in diff pages (disabled) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242351 (10Jdlrobson) [17:27:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10Mobile, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): HTML for VisualDiff mode button appears in mobile diff pages (disabled) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242351 (10Jdlrobson) [17:34:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10Mobile, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): HTML for VisualDiff mode button appears in mobile diff pages (disabled) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242351 (10Masumrezarock100) VisualDiff feature doesn't work without JS, so why not load the button using JS? I... [17:37:49] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), 10Patch-For-Review, and 2 others: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Jdlrobson) > I have granted you patrol rights on beta Commons so you should be able to see the pat... [17:43:28] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10Mobile, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): HTML for VisualDiff mode button appears in mobile diff pages (disabled) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242351 (10Jdlrobson) [17:49:51] 10WikiEditor: [Accessibility] Form elements must have labels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242354 (10Akinwale-microsoft) [17:50:51] 10WikiEditor, 10Accessibility: [Accessibility] Form elements must have labels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242246 (10Akinwale-microsoft) 05Open→03Resolved [17:51:06] 10WikiEditor, 10Accessibility: [Accessibility] Form elements must have labels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242246 (10Akinwale-microsoft) 05Resolved→03Invalid [17:57:40] 10WikiEditor, 10Accessibility: [Accessibility] Form elements must have labels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242354 (10Peachey88) [17:58:56] 10WikiEditor, 10Accessibility: [Accessibility] Form elements must have labels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242246 (10Peachey88) [17:59:00] 10WikiEditor, 10Accessibility: [Accessibility] Form elements must have labels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242354 (10Peachey88) [18:07:13] 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor accessibility bugs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242357 (10Akinwale-microsoft) [18:12:34] 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor accessibility bugs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242357 (10matmarex) I'm generally wary of installing random applications on my machines. If it produces any useful output, can you just copypaste it here? [18:47:55] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Using VE to add a link to text that includes a template with , adds an unnecessary HTML blob - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242336 (10matmarex) This sounds a lot like T207303, or even the older T71876. [18:54:02] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Using VE to add a link to text that includes a template with , adds an unnecessary HTML blob - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242336 (10Amire80) Yeah, possibly related, but I'm not sure it's the same. One thing I'm sure of is that this bug here is easily reproducible :) [19:31:39] 10VisualEditor: [Regression] None of the options under any drop down are visible on mobile VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242362 (10Ryasmeen) [19:37:41] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.15; 2020-01-14), 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), and 3 others: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Jdlrobson) should be all fixed now. Thanks @Urbanecm for the SWAT! [19:37:49] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.15; 2020-01-14), 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), and 3 others: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Jdlrobson) p:05Unbreak!→03High [19:54:41] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.15; 2020-01-14), 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), and 3 others: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Masumrezarock100) == 4. Possible diff style issues I am noticing some sty... [19:55:57] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.15; 2020-01-14), 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), and 3 others: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Jdlrobson) > I am noticing some style issues. Background colors (red and... [19:55:58] 10VisualEditor: Data loss during entry while using VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217847 (10Pols12) I think it is a caching issue: the browsers may keep pages fully in cache while browsing to display them instantly when using Previous Page button. In the past, visual editor effectively edited the old v... [20:10:28] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.14; 2020-01-07), 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), and 2 others: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Masumrezarock100) >>! In T242310#5790856, @Jdlrobson wrote: >> I am notic... [20:21:09] 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor accessibility bugs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242357 (10Akinwale-microsoft) {F31506473} @matmarex Most of these accessibility issues largely fail to include some label that will allow screen readers read aloud the content to visually impaired audience. There accessibility... [20:23:54] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.14; 2020-01-07), 10MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), and 2 others: Regression: issues with MobileDiff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242310 (10Jdlrobson) [20:49:52] 10VisualEditor: [Regression] "<" appearing over the text of some table action options - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242368 (10Ryasmeen) [21:07:13] 10VisualEditor, 10User-Ryasmeen: [Epic] Build an audience for Q4 work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221340 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) 05Open→03Resolved [21:36:48] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Create mockup for a new approach to previewing a reply - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238177 (10iamjessklein) I posted a few iterations for preview on [[ https://wikimedia.invisionapp.com/freehand/OWC-x-Real-Time-Preview-RzWN8eBKi?v=2gd43CuY7vJp%2Bcc7IrNriA%... [22:02:36] 10VisualEditor, 10Accessibility: Visual Editor accessibility bugs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242357 (10Akinwale-microsoft) [22:07:02] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Create mockup for a new approach to previewing a reply - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238177 (10RhinosF1) V2 looks better but I’d like the logged out warning in the V3 style but on top of the reply box personally [22:12:16] 10VisualEditor: PageUp and PageDown act as Home and End in Visual editing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T222243 (10matmarex) Related: T231988 (Firefox bug causing this behavior, should be fixed soon). It looks like you used Firefox for your video. You're saying this also occurs in Chrome so I'm leaving th... [22:26:31] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Drop back-compat. for MagicWordFactory, this extension requires 1.34+ anyway [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/563292 [22:53:47] 10VisualEditor: [Regression] None of the options under any drop down are visible on mobile VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242362 (10matmarex) I can't reproduce this. [22:56:09] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10OWC2020: Send Editing Team's January-2020 newsletter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242384 (10ppelberg) [23:13:37] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor should pre-parse subst: wikitext while loading templateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241586 (10matmarex) (I just had a thought that maybe doing this should be an option in the action=templatedata API.) [23:57:10] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Create mockup for a new approach to previewing a reply - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238177 (10AronManning) Thanks for the previews, great work! 1. I prefer preview immediately below the edited textarea (V3). On V1 I had to look for the preview, on V2 ther...