[02:03:44] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Reply v2.0: conduct usability test (MediaWiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246191 (10ppelberg) [02:09:45] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Reply v2.0: conduct usability test (MediaWiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246191 (10ppelberg) Prompted by the feedback @Samat, @TheDJ and others shared about the v2.0 mockups on mw.org [i][ii], I've updated the task description to... [02:14:01] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0): "Reply" link triggering the wrong message AR Wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251838 (10ppelberg) [10:26:03] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 03+2] build: Upgrade karma-related devDependencies to latest [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594299 (owner: 10Jforrester) [10:28:52] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Upgrade karma-related devDependencies to latest [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594299 (owner: 10Jforrester) [14:28:23] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor: Show "what links here" and context of those links in the editor when creating a page from a redlink - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251692 (10Esanders) [14:43:51] 10VisualEditor: New Wikitext Editor: Unable to add new group of tools to VisualEditor's toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251904 (10He7d3r) [14:49:39] 10VisualEditor: New Wikitext Editor: Unable to add new group of tools to VisualEditor's toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251904 (10Esanders) The toolbar does not include all groups automatically, in the same way that groups include all tools. In order to change the layout of groups within the toolba... [14:59:35] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Citoid error when searching for data at domain elhuyar.eus - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251746 (10Zoranzoki21) [15:01:24] 10Citoid: Citoid error when searching for data at domain elhuyar.eus - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251746 (10Zoranzoki21) Umm, not VisualEditor issue. I removed #wikimedia-site-requests as this isn't request for configuration change, this is bug report. [15:22:11] 10VisualEditor: New Wikitext Editor: Unable to add new group of tools to VisualEditor's toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251904 (10JTannerWMF) Unfortunately, the Editing Team can not prioritize this at this time. [15:23:03] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Tracking): Show "what links here" and context of those links in the editor when creating a page from a redlink - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251692 (10JTannerWMF) [15:26:27] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), and 2 others: [Regression pre-wmf.31] The toolbar for VE is appearing outside the border of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648 (10JTannerWMF) [15:27:28] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), and 2 others: [Regression pre-wmf.31] The toolbar for VE is appearing outside the border of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648 (10JTannerWMF) Hey @ovasileva @Volker_E @Jdlrobson What is our (Web Team's) plan for... [15:31:54] 10VisualEditor: Unable to search for the string " :" in the VisualEditor search and replace bar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251673 (10JTannerWMF) At this time the Editing team can't prioritize this task. However, @matmarex can provide some insight into this particular challenge. [15:35:37] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10UX-Debt: New Section - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251647 (10JTannerWMF) Perhaps when @iamjessklein has down time she can look into this [15:35:57] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), and 3 others: [Regression pre-wmf.31] The toolbar for VE is appearing outside the border of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648 (10ovasileva) [15:38:38] 10VisualEditor, 10Structured-Data-Backlog, 10StructuredDataOnCommons, 10TimedMediaHandler-TimedText: Create a visual VisualEditor plugin tool or Visual CC to add/edit video captions (Timed Text) to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251655 (10JTannerWMF) I believe this may be a Structur... [15:39:43] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Implement more robust search for auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250334 (10JTannerWMF) [15:40:06] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10UX-Debt: New Section - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251647 (10matmarex) You can create new sections by adding a heading (see screenshot below) and just typing underneath it. But it might not be intuitive, especially since you're not the first person... [15:42:55] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Do not preserve line breaks at the end of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250848 (10JTannerWMF) There doesn't appear to be an action for the Editing team [15:44:48] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Do not preserve line breaks at the end of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250848 (10matmarex) [15:51:23] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0): Evaluate how the text in the input window appears - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251469 (10JTannerWMF) [15:52:00] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0): Evaluate how the text in the input window appears - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251469 (10JTannerWMF) @matmarex will provide some context here and @iamjessklein will look into this when she has time. [15:54:01] 10Citoid: Citoid error when searching for data at domain elhuyar.eus - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251746 (10Mvolz) a:03Mvolz [15:54:55] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.19; 2020-02-11), and 2 others: Provide a mechanism for in-surface autocomplete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232601 (10JTannerWMF) [15:55:26] 10Citoid: Citoid error when searching for data at domain elhuyar.eus - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251746 (10Mvolz) Very odd, and definitely a bug. It should at least be giving you a proper error (like a 404). [16:00:00] 10Citoid: Citoid error when searching for data at domain elhuyar.eus - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251746 (10Mvolz) A quick cursory look suggest we're having trouble with their security cert: "Caught at recursion: HTTPError: unable to verify the first certificate" - but the browser seems to handle it fine. [16:08:02] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Oh, I thought we already did. Sure." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594288 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:08:07] (03Abandoned) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Update VE core submodule to master (0010fd6c0) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594288 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:43:54] (03Restored) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (0010fd6c0) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594288 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:44:29] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (d1220be78) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594288 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:44:53] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Update VE core submodule to master (d1220be78) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594288 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:44:58] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Reply v2.0: conduct usability test (MediaWiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246191 (10ppelberg) [16:45:29] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Reply v2.0: conduct usability test (MediaWiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246191 (10ppelberg) [16:46:43] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Do not preserve line breaks at the end of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250848 (10matmarex) [16:47:02] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Do not preserve line breaks at the end of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250848 (10matmarex) [16:47:05] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: VisualEditor adds
when changing category order only - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248138 (10matmarex) [16:47:08] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Editing-team (Tracking): VisualEditor: templates with custom TemplateData formats beginning with "\n" insert a "
" tag when placed below precisely one new line - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247913 (10matmarex) [16:47:16] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Reply v2.0: conduct usability test (MediaWiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246191 (10ppelberg) [16:48:43] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Reply v2.0: conduct usability test (MediaWiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246191 (10ppelberg) Updating the task description with the specific below in response to the feedback we mentioned receiving in T246191#6107400 and T246191#6... [16:49:49] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Reply v2.0: conduct usability tests (usertesting.com) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246190 (10ppelberg) [16:50:03] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Reply v2.0: conduct usability tests (usertesting.com) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246190 (10ppelberg) >>! In T246191#6109613, @ppelberg wrote: > Updating the task description with the specific below in response to the feedback we me... [17:00:55] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (d1220be78) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594288 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [17:08:15] 10Citoid: Citoid error when searching for data at domain elhuyar.eus - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251746 (10ElhuyarFundazioa) 05Open→03Resolved I have checked and there seems indeed to be a problem with Elhuyar's certificate, something related to the intermediate certificate, which does not happen wi... [17:09:58] 10Citoid: Citoid error when searching for data at domain elhuyar.eus - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251746 (10Theklan) Thanks @Mvolz and @ElhuyarFundazioa. But I wonder if this could be happening with other websites with the same certificate configuration. [17:16:27] 10Citoid: Citoid error when searching for data at domain elhuyar.eus - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251746 (10ElhuyarFundazioa) I guess it does, but I do not know how usual this is. I mean, I don't know if there are many websites with this configuration. However, as I understand, it is a wrong, somehow in... [17:28:02] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0): The Reply tool should not create a list gap before an association (definition) list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250129 (10ssastry) >>! In T250129#6091151, @ppelberg wrote: > @cscott I'm adding this task as a child of T250184 assumi... [17:28:20] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0): The Reply tool should not create a list gap before an association (definition) list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250129 (10ssastry) [17:35:26] 10VisualEditor: Unable to search for the string " :" in the VisualEditor search and replace bar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251673 (10matmarex) The space is not represented as a real space in our data model, and that's why you can't find it. This is somewhat similar to {T151671} (where line breaks are a... [17:45:15] 10VisualEditor: Unable to search for the string " :" in the VisualEditor search and replace bar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251673 (10Amire80) >>! In T251673#6109888, @matmarex wrote: > The space is not represented as a real space in our data model, and that's why you can't find it. This is somewhat sim... [17:58:24] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0): Evaluate how the text in the input window appears - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251469 (10matmarex) The font in the reply box it meant to be exactly the same as in the normal editing interface. This seems to be wo... [18:16:36] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: VisualEditor adds
when changing category order only - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248138 (10ssastry) I created https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:SSastry_(WMF)/Sandbox&oldid=3825989 for testing this 1. I can use the steps in the description to reproduce t... [19:23:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: VE: Selecting text with Shift-Cursor key does not work if text contains a link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251943 (10AxelBoldt) [19:31:27] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update OOjs to v5.0.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594559 [19:35:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: VE: Using mouse click to place cursor at beginning of an item in a bullet list is awkward - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251946 (10AxelBoldt) [19:44:49] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0): "Reply" link triggering the wrong message AR Wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251838 (10matmarex) The tool can't find the comments on that page, because the timezone indicators in the timestamps (`(UTC)` in English) are written as... [20:24:34] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board): [Regression ?] "TypeError: Cannot read property '$element' of null" appears while adding a template - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251577 (10matmarex) I think I've seen this once or twice but I don't have the reproduction steps. I think what hap... [20:36:34] 10Editing-team, 10EasyTimeline, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): EasyTimeline outputs an image with no width and height dimensions which is incompatible with MobileFrontend lazy loading - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T216318 (10Aklapper) Ping - would the Editing Team please review... [20:36:40] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0): "Reply" link triggering the wrong message AR Wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251838 (10matmarex) Apparently the wikEd tool replaces the entities like this, the problem is common enough that en.wp has a shortcut link to the explana... [21:25:01] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0): The Reply tool should not create a list gap before an association (definition) list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250129 (10matmarex) The following association list in this example was not part of a comment, so I think the current be... [21:26:55] (03Abandoned) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [WIP] Username completion action, split out [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/550897 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232601) (owner: 10DLynch) [21:39:04] (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: DesktopArticleTarget.init: Set veEditSourceUri in SET mode too [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/589403 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T192974) [21:49:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.22; 2020-03-03), 10Mobile, 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): VisualDiff feature on mobile has an inconsistent style/layout - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244673 (10matmarex) a:05matmarex→03None I am not planning to work on... [21:53:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review: At IE11, URL address bar changes while using the NWE and selecting "Always give me the source editor" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T192974... [21:54:25] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] DesktopArticleTarget.init: Set veEditSourceUri in SET mode too [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/589403 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T192974) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:55:50] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board): Visual Editor wgVisualEditorSkinToolbarScrollOffset seems to not work properly with Chameleon fixed header - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250600 (10matmarex) @Chrishel Have you had the time to try setting the position in CSS? [21:56:31] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing QA, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.30; 2020-04-28): Merge vehidebetadialog and hidewelcomedialog URL parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249954 (10matmarex) [22:56:52] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), and 3 others: [Regression pre-wmf.31] The toolbar for VE is appearing outside the border of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648 (10Jdlrobson) >>! In T251648#6109099, @JTannerWMF wrote: > Hey @ovasileva @Volker_E @... [23:04:36] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Product-Analytics (Kanban), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Spike : How will we Measure % of edits coming from users without JS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251464 (10nettrom_WMF) One thing I keep thinking is relevant here is that ad-blockers can block... [23:31:27] 10Cite: For talk pages have references occur in each section - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245700 (10Izno) Treating talk pages differently from main pages doesn't seem necessary and the work around exists already as noted.