[00:13:22] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Product-Analytics (Kanban), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Spike : How will we Measure % of edits coming from users without JS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251464 (10DLynch) Client-side EventLogging respects browser do-not-track settings, and server-s... [00:31:43] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board): Visual Editor wgVisualEditorSkinToolbarScrollOffset seems to not work properly with Chameleon fixed header - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250600 (10Chrishel) I tried using that css setting, and it seems like it could work but I'm having issues w... [00:53:19] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10Spike, 10Vue.js: Research spike: vue.js and visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247083 (10JTannerWMF) a:05dchan→03DLynch [01:06:41] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0): New discussion v1.0: create mockups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243248 (10ppelberg) [01:08:48] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: [Epic] Enable DiscussionTools on pages not in a talk namespace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251653 (10ppelberg) [01:12:28] 10VisualEditor, 10ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension), 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.30; 2020-04-28), and 2 others: ReCaptchaNoCaptcha not working in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250488 (10ppelberg) 05Open→03Resolved @Florian I'm going to close... [01:14:05] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10Skipped QA: Navigation tab changed from "Translate" to "Edit" and "Edit source" in translated subpage when VE enabled and viewing diff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246518 (10ppelberg) [01:14:16] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10Skipped QA, 10User-Ryasmeen: Navigation tab changed from "Translate" to "Edit" and "Edit source" in translated subpage when VE enabled and viewing diff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246518 (10ppelberg)... [01:47:23] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Product-Analytics (Kanban), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Spike : How will we Measure % of edits coming from users without JS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251464 (10kaldari) @nettrom_WMF - Ugg, I imagine that means that everyone with an ad blocker wi... [02:47:18] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-extensions-LabeledSectionTransclusion, 10ProofreadPage, 10Wikisource: Allow Citation transclusion from a second page or series of page(s) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244346 (10Billinghurst) If you are just focusing on the main namespace output this can be done now. There are j... [04:20:44] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0): Evaluate how the text in the input window appears - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251469 (10Demian) >>! In T251469#6110005, @matmarex wrote: > The font in the reply box it meant to be exactly the same as in the norm... [06:47:01] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Team, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Technical-Debt: Cleanup and document code dealing with incomplete follow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245549 (10thiemowmde) [09:53:41] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), and 3 others: [Regression pre-wmf.31] The toolbar for VE is appearing outside the border of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648 (10ovasileva) I think we're okay for deployment as we won't be deploying to any of t... [09:53:54] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), and 3 others: [Regression pre-wmf.31] The toolbar for VE is appearing outside the border of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648 (10ovasileva) p:05Triage→03Medium [09:54:11] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), and 3 others: [Regression pre-wmf.31] The toolbar for VE is appearing outside the border of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648 (10ovasileva) [12:57:58] (03PS1) 10Esanders: TargetWidget: Re throw 'submit' event from the surface [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594705 [14:31:42] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10iamjessklein) Some thoughts (a mix of ui/ux feedback): * ** Increase width and match the spacing **around the @ sign to align with this... [15:20:58] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10Regression: [Regression pre-wmf.16] Citation needed template is not getting replaced by the citation added from the VE context menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243242 (10Esanders) Those wikis don't typically host articles, and so don't have the citation templates set up on... [15:23:56] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10Regression: [Regression pre-wmf.16] Citation needed template is not getting replaced by the citation added from the VE context menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243242 (10Esanders) For me it works fine on live and beta if an automatic citation is used. It appears it doesn't... [16:26:27] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update OOUI to v0.39.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594748 [16:26:36] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), and 3 others: [Regression pre-wmf.31] The toolbar for VE is appearing outside the border of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648 (10Esanders) `skin-vector-2` probably makes sense going forward, although we should u... [16:28:33] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), and 3 others: [Regression pre-wmf.31] The toolbar for VE is appearing outside the border of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648 (10Esanders) >>! In T251648#6112016, @ovasileva wrote: > I think we're okay for depl... [16:39:10] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Reply v2.0: conduct usability tests (usertesting.com) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246190 (10ppelberg) Note on timing based on the conversation @iamjessklein had today: - This work starting depends on us having a prototype available... [16:40:18] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), and 3 others: [Regression pre-wmf.31] The toolbar for VE is appearing outside the border of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648 (10Jdlrobson) > switch back to Vector-1 using a query string parameter. https://en.w... [16:45:47] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), and 3 others: [Regression pre-wmf.31] The toolbar for VE is appearing outside the border of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648 (10Demian) >>! In T251648#6113473, @Esanders wrote: > Is there a way to switch back t... [16:55:39] 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Tech (Kanban-2019-20-Q4), 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10User-Ryasmeen: Spike: Investigate Named References in VE [8 hours] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243300 (10ifried) 05Open→03Resolved This spike is complete. We have collected helpful information for the team, whic... [17:06:18] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Parsoid: Cite-ve-referenceslist-missingref is shown when the reference is not defined at all - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244671 (10matmarex) [17:22:20] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Parsoid: Cite-ve-referenceslist-missingref is shown when the reference is not defined at all - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244671 (10Arlolra) See T51538 and T251842 [17:40:36] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10Esanders) >>! In T251478#6112846, @iamjessklein wrote: > * ** Move IP addresses to the bottom of the list **- my assumption here is that... [17:42:05] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10DLynch) > Actually @DLynch was right, we don't notify IPs, so they should just be removed. We don't notify them... but might people want... [17:49:21] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10Esanders) Possibly, although it might be confusing to list them as that would lead users to believe will get notified, when they won't. [18:04:56] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0), 10Patch-For-Review: Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10Esanders) Another issue with linking to IPs is that signing as an IP links to your contributions page, not your use... [18:24:58] 10Editing-team, 10Core Platform Team, 10MediaWiki-API, 10ProofreadPage, and 2 others: ProofreadPage: There is no page number -25 in the pagination. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251829 (10Krinkle) [18:30:24] 10Editing-team, 10CodeEditor, 10Regression, 10Wikimedia-production-error: Error when using search in CodeEditor: dom.buildDom is not a function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251545 (10Krinkle) [18:53:19] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020: Run A/B test to evaluate impact of Reply tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252057 (10ppelberg) [18:53:45] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020: Run A/B test to evaluate impact of Reply tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252057 (10ppelberg) [18:56:50] 10VisualEditor, 10Product-Analytics, 10Editing-team (Tracking): VE mobile default: analyze A/B test results - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221198 (10ppelberg) [19:56:20] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Transient failure: "23:39:29 rmdir: failed to remove '/workspace/src': Device or resource busy"" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/589403 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T192974) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:56:29] (03PS3) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: DesktopArticleTarget.init: Set veEditSourceUri in SET mode too [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/589403 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T192974) [20:10:34] (03PS1) 10Esanders: TargetWidget: Don't assume surface exists in setReadOnly [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594790 [20:12:47] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 03+2] TargetWidget: Don't assume surface exists in setReadOnly [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594790 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:13:17] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 03+2] TargetWidget: Re throw 'submit' event from the surface [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594705 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:15:32] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: TargetWidget: Re throw 'submit' event from the surface [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594705 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:15:36] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: TargetWidget: Don't assume surface exists in setReadOnly [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594790 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:22:06] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Update toolbar styles for Vector changes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594793 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648) [20:22:31] (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Update toolbar styles for Vector changes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594793 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648) [20:25:46] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Update VE core submodule to master (1cce47f5c) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594794 [20:38:10] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Update toolbar styles for Vector changes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594793 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:46:58] (03PS3) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Update toolbar styles for Vector changes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594793 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648) [20:49:47] 10Cite, 10Editing QA, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review, 10good first task: Automatic references list after page-terminal ordered or bullet list generates unbalanced HTML - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148701 (10matmarex) [20:53:39] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Parsoid: Cite-ve-referenceslist-missingref is shown when the reference is not defined at all - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244671 (10ssastry) Should we merge this as a "duplicate" of T251842? [21:43:20] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Parsoid: Cite-ve-referenceslist-missingref is shown when the reference is not defined at all - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244671 (10matmarex) Fine by me [22:01:23] (03PS1) 10DLynch: Don't log VEFeatureUse from dicsussionTools [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594808 [22:08:44] (03PS2) 10DLynch: Don't log VEFeatureUse from DiscussionTools [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594808 [22:26:31] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10Browser-Support-Firefox: VE: Using mouse click to place cursor at beginning of an item in a bullet list is awkward - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251946 (10matmarex) I can reproduce it in Firefox only. It seems like the area of the marker itself is not... [22:28:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: VE: Selecting text with Shift-Cursor key does not work if text contains a link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251943 (10matmarex) This works correctly in Chrome but not Firefox. This might be a bug in our code, since we have some... [22:44:55] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.32; 2020-05-12), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10ppelberg) >>! In T251478#6113770, @Esanders wrote: > Actually @DLynch was right, we don't... [22:47:41] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.32; 2020-05-12), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10ppelberg) [23:00:31] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.32; 2020-05-12), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10ppelberg) [23:40:27] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10ppelberg) [23:44:20] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.32; 2020-05-12), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10ppelberg) Updates from this morning's team meeting: - Added the follow open questions to t... [23:45:45] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.32; 2020-05-12), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10ppelberg) [23:49:06] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Consider adding header to username suggestion list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252084 (10ppelberg) [23:52:54] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.32; 2020-05-12), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10Esanders) Logged out users get served heavily cached content so technically it would be di... [23:58:39] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Consider adding header to username suggestion list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252084 (10ppelberg) [23:59:31] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10ppelberg) a:05DLynch→03None