[00:08:04] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10DLynch) Considerations: * Visual and source modes have different in... [00:09:50] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Consider adding header to username suggestion list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252084 (10ppelberg) We will revisit this task after we completed usability testing: - T246190 - T246191 [00:11:02] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10ppelberg) [00:12:43] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Product-Analytics (Kanban), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Spike : How will we Measure % of edits coming from users without JS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251464 (10DLynch) Perhaps we could work out some sort of baseline adblocker-but-JS rate by look... [01:01:02] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10Skipped QA, 10User-Ryasmeen: Navigation tab changed from "Translate" to "Edit" and "Edit source" in translated subpage when VE enabled and viewing diff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246518 (10Xiplus) 0... [12:02:25] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10Esanders) Links becoming out of sync with their labels is not a pro... [13:33:41] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Refactor getPreferredEditor and expose reusable parts [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594952 [14:32:54] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 04-1] "WIP" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594952 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:51:45] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Product-Analytics (Kanban), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Spike : How will we Measure % of edits coming from users without JS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251464 (10mpopov) >>! In T251464#6114946, @DLynch wrote: > Perhaps we could work out some sort... [15:34:40] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Product-Analytics (Kanban), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Spike : How will we Measure % of edits coming from users without JS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251464 (10DLynch) > I keep wondering if we could add a server-side EventLogging component to VE... [16:19:15] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Product-Analytics (Kanban), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Spike : How will we Measure % of edits coming from users without JS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251464 (10mpopov) >>! In T251464#6116354, @DLynch wrote: > That's a very enwiki-centric viewpoi... [16:19:54] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: Placing cursor leads to selection of one character - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252130 (10Esanders) [16:22:55] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: Placing cursor leads to selection of one character - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252130 (10Esanders) [16:27:59] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Product-Analytics (Kanban), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Spike : How will we Measure % of edits coming from users without JS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251464 (10DLynch) @mpopov there's also the `visualeditor-nondefault` group in config, which mos... [16:30:59] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10DLynch) > Links becoming out of sync with their labels is not a pro... [16:45:29] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Update data to 13.0.0 [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594999 [16:47:41] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Update data to 13.0.0 [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594999 [17:22:07] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Update data to 13.0.0 [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594999 (owner: 10Esanders) [17:22:28] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: Update data to Unicode 13.0.0 [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594999 (owner: 10Esanders) [17:22:32] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] "…" [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594999 (owner: 10Esanders) [17:23:02] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update data to Unicode 13.0.0 [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594999 (owner: 10Esanders) [17:29:40] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) I'm concerned about creeping perfectionism here.... [17:30:44] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Product-Analytics (Kanban), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Spike : How will we Measure % of edits coming from users without JS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251464 (10DLynch) @mpopov here's a quick implementation of respecting the DNT header server-sid... [18:11:43] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Move generated files to spearate folders and cleanup when building [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595011 [18:11:45] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Cleanup tools [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595012 [18:19:22] 10VisualEditor: Noinclude with the VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937 (10Sdkb) This issue just [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Impact_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_on_the_environment&type=revision&diff=955195189&oldid=955168446&diffmode=source | occurred ]] [[ https://en.wikipedia.... [18:21:17] 10VisualEditor, 10covid-19: Noinclude with the VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937 (10Sdkb) [18:27:45] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Move generated files to spearate folders and cleanup when building [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595011 [18:27:48] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Cleanup tools [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595012 [18:27:50] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Fix linting in build/ and remove unused files [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595017 [18:28:19] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Fix linting in build/ and remove unused files [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595017 (owner: 10Esanders) [18:30:42] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Product-Analytics (Kanban), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking): Spike : How will we Measure % of edits coming from users without JS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251464 (10DLynch) ...and that got merged. So, adblockers may still be cutting off the beacon re... [18:33:04] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Fix package.json files list, everything is copied to dist [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595020 [18:33:06] (03PS1) 10Esanders: package.json: Use tabs [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595021 [18:33:33] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] package.json: Use tabs [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595021 (owner: 10Esanders) [18:33:35] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Fix package.json files list, everything is copied to dist [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595020 (owner: 10Esanders) [18:50:51] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Add `grunt update` task to run update tools [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595024 [18:51:20] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add `grunt update` task to run update tools [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595024 (owner: 10Esanders) [18:51:40] (03CR) 10Esanders: "https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252087" [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594999 (owner: 10Esanders) [18:57:43] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Fix linting in build/ and remove unused files [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595017 [18:57:45] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Fix package.json files list, everything is copied to dist [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595020 [18:57:47] (03PS2) 10Esanders: package.json: Use tabs [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595021 [18:57:49] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Add `grunt update` task to run update tools [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595024 [19:18:35] (03CR) 10Esanders: "Ready for review." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594952 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:31:11] 10VisualEditor, 10covid-19: Noinclude with the VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937 (10Sdkb) @Certes just identified a possible reason for this bug; see [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Excerpt#Noinclude_tags_are_getting_removed_every_time_someone_uses_the_VisualEditor%2C_mess... [19:49:15] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: DesktopArticleTarget.init: Identify our events on multi section edit links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595035 [19:51:52] (03CR) 10DLynch: [C: 03+2] DesktopArticleTarget.init: Identify our events on multi section edit links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595035 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:56:07] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 03+2] Update VE core submodule to master (1cce47f5c) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594794 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:58:42] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: Placing cursor leads to selection of one character - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252130 (10matmarex) Silly question, but, are you sure you didn't press the Insert key to activate this mode? [20:05:05] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: DesktopArticleTarget.init: Identify our events on multi section edit links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595035 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:09:08] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (1cce47f5c) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594794 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:12:26] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10Regression: [Regression pre-wmf.16] Citation needed template is not getting replaced by the citation added from the VE context menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243242 (10Ryasmeen) >>! In T243242#6113042, @Esanders wrote: > For me it works fine on live and beta if an automat... [20:13:17] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10Regression, 10User-Ryasmeen: [Regression pre-wmf.16] Citation needed template is not getting replaced by the citation added from the VE context menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243242 (10Ryasmeen) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Ryasmeen [20:27:40] 10VisualEditor, 10covid-19: Noinclude with the VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937 (10matmarex) This problem is basically the same as T247001. [20:27:47] 10VisualEditor, 10covid-19: Noinclude with the VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937 (10Certes) VE appears to simplify piped links in a way incompatible with transclusion, specifically to replace [[Foo bar|Foo bar]] by [[Foo bar]], This is helpful and harmless on the... [20:32:58] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: Move generated files to spearate folders and cleanup when building [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595011 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:33:14] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Move generated files to spearate folders and cleanup when building (031 comment) [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595011 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:33:42] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Move generated files to spearate folders and cleanup when building [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595011 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:33:58] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: Cleanup tools [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595012 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:34:05] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Cleanup tools [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595012 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:34:11] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: Fix linting in build/ and remove unused files [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595017 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:34:39] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Cleanup tools [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595012 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:35:26] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "This means that non-release builds don't have "-pre" on their version numbers any more, making it harder to work out if your local copied " [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595017 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:35:39] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: Fix package.json files list, everything is copied to dist [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595020 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:36:08] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] "Eh, may need to change the imports in MW or whatever, but sure." [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595020 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:36:38] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix package.json files list, everything is copied to dist [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595020 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:39:08] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: package.json: Use tabs [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595021 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:39:20] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] package.json: Use tabs [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595021 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:39:25] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: Add `grunt update` task to run update tools [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595024 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:39:49] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: package.json: Use tabs [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595021 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:41:44] (03PS4) 10Jforrester: Add `grunt update` task to run update tools [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595024 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:42:10] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Add `grunt update` task to run update tools [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595024 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:42:40] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add `grunt update` task to run update tools [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595024 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:43:14] (03PS4) 10Jforrester: Fix linting in build/ and remove unused files [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595017 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:46:39] (03PS5) 10Jforrester: build: Fix linting in build/ and remove unused 'copy' task [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595017 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:46:41] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: build: Drop the 'git-build' step [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595050 [20:47:07] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] "I split out the bit I didn't like. ;-)" [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595017 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:47:38] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "(Split out from parent so that that could merge.)" [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595050 (owner: 10Jforrester) [20:47:45] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Fix linting in build/ and remove unused 'copy' task [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595017 (owner: 10Esanders) [21:06:02] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Consider including IPs within the username suggestion llist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252169 (10ppelberg) [21:06:05] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.32; 2020-05-12), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10ppelberg) >>! In T251478#6114906, @Esanders wrote: > Logged out users get served heavily c... [21:14:19] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Consider including IPs within the username suggestion llist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252169 (10ppelberg) a:05DLynch→03None [21:15:19] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.32; 2020-05-12), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10ppelberg) **Wrapping things up...** > * ** Increase width and match the spacing **around... [21:16:21] (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: ve.dm.MWAlienMetaItem: Never match mw:Extension nodes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/577350 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247001) [21:16:23] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Handle etc. as nodes rather than metaitems [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595052 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937) [21:16:27] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "This change is ready for review." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/577350 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247001) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:17:17] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.32; 2020-05-12), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10ppelberg) [21:20:28] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.32; 2020-05-12), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Create UI for in-surface auto-complete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251478 (10ppelberg) [21:24:23] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review, 10covid-19: Noinclude with the VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937 (10matmarex) [21:24:31] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Consider including IPs within the username suggestion llist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252169 (10ppelberg) [21:35:52] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Parsoid: Cite-ve-referenceslist-missingref is shown when the reference is not defined at all - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244671 (10ssastry) Actually, this can be a VE-specific task to address the VE UX part of it once T251842 is implem... [21:36:09] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 10Parsoid: Cite-ve-referenceslist-missingref is shown when the reference is not defined at all - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244671 (10ssastry) [21:38:10] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Cite-ve-referenceslist-missingref is shown when the reference is not defined at all - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244671 (10ssastry) [21:45:06] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), and 3 others: [Regression pre-wmf.31] The toolbar for VE is appearing outside the border of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251648 (10ppelberg) >>! In T251648#6112016, @ovasileva wrote: > I think we're okay for depl... [21:53:01] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Consider including IPs within the username suggestion llist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252169 (10DLynch) Implementation detail (which is not yet implemented): as in the signature, the I... [22:26:04] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools: Revise error message copy when trying to reply to a comment transcluded from another page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252174 (10ppelberg) [23:13:40] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review, 10covid-19: Noinclude with the VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937 (10Sdkb) @matmarex thanks! The noinclude tags are being used because of the spread of [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Excerpts |...