[00:05:23] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0): Consider a blank edit summary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254117 (10ppelberg) [00:07:45] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Revise how edit summaries behave in the Reply tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254207 (10ppelberg) [00:08:41] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Revise how edit summaries behave in the Reply tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254207 (10ppelberg) [00:08:54] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Revise how edit summaries behave in the Reply tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254207 (10ppelberg) [00:08:56] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0): Consider a blank edit summary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254117 (10ppelberg) [00:15:08] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Consider changing the presentation of the visual mode's editing toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252445 (10ppelberg) [00:50:45] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020: Revise position of Reply tool's text input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254208 (10ppelberg) [01:00:50] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020: Revise behavior of Reply tool's text input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254208 (10ppelberg) [01:04:51] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020: Revise position and behavior of Reply tool's text input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254208 (10ppelberg) [01:07:58] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Revise position and behavior of Reply tool's text input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254208 (10ppelberg) [03:02:12] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] build: Updating mediawiki/mediawiki-phan-config to 0.10.2 [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601537 (owner: 10Libraryupgrader) [03:02:42] (03PS2) 10DannyS712: build: Updating mediawiki/mediawiki-phan-config to 0.10.2 [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601537 (owner: 10Libraryupgrader) [03:26:34] 10VisualEditor: Visual editing: process for editing Cite interview is not consistent with editing Cite web when wrapped in tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254113 (10Goldenshimmer) I see, so it would need to clutter up the menu to be able to be detected then... I guess this is a request to either... [03:58:29] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Revise position and behavior of Reply tool's text input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254208 (10Demian) Thank you @ppelberg for finding and collecting these feedback! [04:31:38] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] build: Updating mediawiki/mediawiki-phan-config to 0.10.2 [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601537 (owner: 10Libraryupgrader) [04:48:11] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] build: Updating composer dependencies [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601576 (owner: 10Libraryupgrader) [04:49:12] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] build: Updating composer dependencies [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601576 (owner: 10Libraryupgrader) [06:05:40] 10VisualEditor: Please centralize enwiki's feedback for VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224851 (10Pelagic) So, ... this depends on the user's current wiki having Flow extension loaded so that it can post to Structured Discussions on mw-wiki? I think I'm going to need a "Bex and a good lie down... [09:09:48] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0): Consider a blank edit summary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254117 (10Marc) To summarize the reasoning I expressed [[https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Vju7lfcav875rt8r&topic_showPostId=vn9su96r4qei5z8g#flow-post-vn9su96r4qei5z8g|here]]: *... [13:00:19] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Revise position and behavior of Reply tool's text input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254208 (10Esanders) WIP sticky reply widget: http://patchdemo.wmflabs.org/wikis/7a9167060277b7c311ff7045ca1a1e9e/w/index.php/Talk:Main_Page?dtvisual=1 [16:57:35] (03PS1) 10Esanders: build: Update eslint-config-wikimedia to 0.16.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601797 [16:58:59] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] build: Update eslint-config-wikimedia to 0.16.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601797 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:59:37] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020: [Technical Investigation] What constraints limit what notifications can be sent and how they can be delivered? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254263 (10ppelberg) [17:00:08] (03PS2) 10Esanders: build: Update eslint-config-wikimedia to 0.16.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601797 [17:00:55] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020: [Technical Investigation] What constraints limit what notifications can be sent and how they can be delivered? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254263 (10ppelberg) **Next steps** - [ ] @ppelberg needs to continue filling in "Use cases" and add evidence to the task description tha... [17:01:41] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] build: Update eslint-config-wikimedia to 0.16.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601797 (owner: 10Esanders) [17:38:48] 10VisualEditor, 10MW-1.35-release: Bundle VisualEditor extension with MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243258 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [17:41:40] 10VisualEditor, 10MW-1.35-release: Bundle VisualEditor extension with MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243258 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [17:41:46] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Editing-team (Tracking): Uncached VisualEditor w/ Parsoid/PHP (no JS, no RESTBase) for MW 1.35 LTS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248343 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [17:42:01] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10MW-1.35-release: Uncached VisualEditor w/ Parsoid/PHP (no JS, no RESTBase) for MW 1.35 LTS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248343 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:06:21] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10MW-1.35-release: Uncached VisualEditor w/ Parsoid/PHP (no JS, no RESTBase) for MW 1.35 LTS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248343 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage→03High Deadline for this is a few weeks away now. [18:08:16] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020: [Technical Investigation] What constraints limit what notifications can be sent and how they can be delivered? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254263 (10ppelberg) **Notes from conversation with Ed** - A key question for us to answer in the context of delivering people notificati... [19:09:00] (03PS3) 10Esanders: build: Update eslint-config-wikimedia to 0.16.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601797 [19:11:42] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] build: Update eslint-config-wikimedia to 0.16.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601797 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:25:42] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Reply v2.0: conduct usability tests (usertesting.com) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246190 (10iamjessklein) All the tests are logged - you can read the write up here. I will be running the second round of tests (with source mode as de... [19:33:45] (03PS4) 10Esanders: build: Update eslint-config-wikimedia to 0.16.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601797 [19:36:34] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] build: Update eslint-config-wikimedia to 0.16.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601797 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:15:38] (03PS5) 10Esanders: build: Update eslint-config-wikimedia to 0.16.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601797 [20:30:25] (03PS1) 10Esanders: build: Update eslint-config-wikimedia to 0.16.0 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601850 [20:37:47] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] build: Update eslint-config-wikimedia to 0.16.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601797 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:40:58] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Update eslint-config-wikimedia to 0.16.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601797 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:49:08] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] "Now it goes back-and-forth when typing quickly. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F31851524" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/600927 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:57:45] 10VisualEditor, 10AbuseFilter, 10Core Platform Team, 10MediaWiki-API: {{FULLPAGENAME}} returns "Special:Badtitle/ApiErrorFormatter::getDummyTitle" in abusefilter warning with VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247661 (10eprodromou) [20:58:54] 10VisualEditor, 10AbuseFilter, 10Core Platform Team, 10MediaWiki-API: {{FULLPAGENAME}} returns "Special:Badtitle/ApiErrorFormatter::getDummyTitle" in abusefilter warning with VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247661 (10eprodromou) [21:12:12] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] Fetch lint errors from MW API, not RESTBase [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/599418 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253799) (owner: 10Esanders) [21:13:59] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: build: Replace jsduck with jsdoc for documentation [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601861 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250843) [21:19:55] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "ping" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595052 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:24:38] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] build: Replace jsduck with jsdoc for documentation [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/601861 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250843) (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:24:53] 10VisualEditor: Visual editing: process for editing Cite interview is not consistent with editing Cite web when wrapped in tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254113 (10Goldenshimmer) [21:25:20] 10Cite, 10Contributors-Team, 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Configuration, and 5 others: Support listing modules in extension.json that are registered if another extension is installed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128012 (10Legoktm) In Gerrit @Krinkle wrote: > I'd prefer this be something specific to t... [21:58:48] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Add additional events to VisualEditorFeatureUse - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254291 (10ppelberg) [21:59:16] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Instrument Reply tool v2.0 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252931 (10ppelberg) >>! In T252931#6163891, @DLynch wrote: > We need to go over the events for the mode-switching and ensure that they're firing appropriately. > > A quick tes... [21:59:48] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board): Pre-deployment QA: VisualEditorFeatureUse schema changes to other editing interfacess - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254292 (10ppelberg) [23:01:28] 10Cite, 10Contributors-Team, 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Configuration, and 5 others: Support listing modules in extension.json that are registered if another extension is installed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128012 (10Krinkle) Spelled out example of what these could look like. `name=1 - Separate... [23:03:41] 10Cite, 10Contributors-Team, 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Configuration, and 5 others: Support listing modules in extension.json that are registered if another extension is installed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128012 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Would require flag be `string|string[]` like other dependencie... [23:25:57] 10Cite, 10Contributors-Team, 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Configuration, and 5 others: Support listing modules in extension.json that are registered if another extension is installed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128012 (10Tgr) > We should also look to enforce this via code rather than socially by dep...