[00:08:21] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Make it possible to use {key tab} to select a user from the username suggestion list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254415 (10iamjessklein) nice @Esanders [00:11:27] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Make it possible to use {key tab} to select a user from the username suggestion list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254415 (10ppelberg) >>! In T254415#6191030, @Esanders wrote: > I noticed... [00:21:19] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Reply v2.0: conduct usability tests (usertesting.com) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246190 (10iamjessklein) Update: I've posted second round of tests on usertesting.com (this round has source mode as default). [01:23:49] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10kaldari) It seems like Approach #1B would be a lot more feasible as... [01:25:52] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10ppelberg) Documenting some the feedback @Dvorapa shared in https://... [04:13:41] 10Editing-team, 10MassMessage, 10Core Platform Team Workboards (Clinic Duty Team), 10User-DannyS712, 10User-notice: MassMessage: allow editing a spam list's description via the api - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226929 (10DannyS712) [05:37:19] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10Demian) >>! In T252083#6191172, @kaldari wrote: > It seems like App... [06:06:52] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Graph: Migrate graphs from Vega 1 to Vega 2 syntax on edit with VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120319 (10Yair_rand) >>! In T120319#6180341, @Jseddon wrote: > I'm inclined to change this task to scrubbing all instances of vega 1 graphs out right. Any disagreement?... [09:18:33] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: VE citation tool : frequent incorrect 3rd ISBN with no obvious reason for Worldcat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249425 (10Mvolz) Do you have any other examples? When I check this now I'm only seeing the two (correct) ISBNs. Maybe it was a temporary bug from Worldcat upstream? [10:11:32] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10Esanders) >>! In T252083#6191172, @kaldari wrote: > It seems like A... [10:49:21] 10VisualEditor: Add setting to not show "leave feedback" option - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254457 (10JeroenDeDauw) [10:49:42] 10VisualEditor: Add setting to not show "leave feedback" option - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254457 (10JeroenDeDauw) [10:55:44] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: VE citation tool : frequent incorrect 3rd ISBN with no obvious reason for Worldcat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249425 (10NicoV) @Mvolz I've seen this bug for a long time (several months) and still seeing it on a regular basis, and always the same problem 3rd ISBN completely w... [11:08:31] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: VE citation tool : frequent incorrect 3rd ISBN with no obvious reason for Worldcat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249425 (10NicoV) @Mvolz With the previous example, I tried using the citation tool : when I use "Istorijsko poreklo Srba" as the search critera, I got 2 suggestion... [11:22:19] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10Lofhi) What would happen when you write `[[User:NAME|OTHERNAME]]`? [11:36:45] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10Demian) >>! In T252083#6192301, @Lofhi wrote: > What would happen w... [11:37:58] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Make it possible to use {key tab} to select a user from the username suggestion list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254415 (10matmarex) Yeah, that's best. [11:38:12] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Make it possible to use {key tab} to select a user from the username suggestion list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254415 (10matmarex) [13:04:37] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] "This should also delete the localisation messages and other stuff added in ae86f7290b7245a49d9459d030c731273a82f7a2" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/599418 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253799) (owner: 10Esanders) [13:57:42] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Make it possible to use to select a user from the username suggestion list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254415 (10Esanders) [14:01:30] 10Citoid, 10Operations, 10Wikimedia-Logstash, 10observability, and 3 others: Move citoid logging to new logging pipeline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219919 (10Pchelolo) The patch above doesn't change anything in production. In general, having 'config.prod.yaml' in citoid source repo is misleading... [14:10:34] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10User-Ryasmeen: Decide on a strategy for the special-casing of auto-whitespace in front of colons for French output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106561 (10Arlolra) Probably related to when T94509 was being deployed. [14:12:03] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10User-Ryasmeen: Decide on a strategy for the special-casing of auto-whitespace in front of colons for French output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106561 (10Arlolra) Or maybe it only got fixed in T241906 [14:41:56] (03PS1) 10AdhamKhatean: Create initial UI for maps panel in TemplateData GUI [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602382 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254478) [14:45:19] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.30; 2020-04-28), and 2 others: Document corruption when inserting linebreak while annotating - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250702 (10Esanders) a:03dchan [14:45:56] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.30; 2020-04-28), and 2 others: Document corruption when inserting linebreak while annotating - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250702 (10Esanders) [14:46:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Editing QA, and 2 others: When VE is disabled but NWE is enabled and wiki is in multi-tab mode, initialization code for the "Edit" tab doesn't run - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178976 (10Esanders) a:03matmarex [14:47:09] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Editing QA, and 2 others: Can't paste into an empty paragraph in VisualEditor from a specific page (in Chrome) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244109 (10Esanders) a:03Esanders [14:47:47] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10Editing QA, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board): Switching a new Bullet point to Numbered list corrupts user input in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243852 (10Esanders) a:03matmarex [14:49:09] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing QA, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.10; 2019-12-10), 10Regression: Retried-load results in document showing twice - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238332 (10Esanders) a:03Esanders [14:49:50] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Editing QA, and 2 others: VisualEditor ignores autogenerated parameter info for templates without TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243868 (10Esanders) a:03TK-999 [14:50:16] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10Editing QA, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board): VisualEditor crashes when undoing paste of external link into nested list item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206278 (10Esanders) a:03matmarex [14:50:41] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Make it possible to use to select a user from the username suggestion list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254415 (10Esanders) a:03Esanders [14:50:59] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0), 10Patch-For-Review: RESTBase linting API is very slow (not cached) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253799 (10Esanders) a:03Esanders [14:52:42] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 03+2] When switching from wikitext to visual, preserve the edit checkboxes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/598873 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250388) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [14:53:23] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing QA, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10edittypes-modeling, and 2 others: Change from source code editing to visual editing: minor edit property not kept - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250388 (10Esanders) [15:06:11] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.36; 2020-06-09), 10covid-19: Noinclude with the VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937 (10Esanders) a:03matmarex [15:10:53] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: When switching from wikitext to visual, preserve the edit checkboxes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/598873 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250388) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:48:55] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review: [Regression] VisualEditor not available in WikiEditor's toolbar for logged out users at en.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253941 (10matmarex) [15:48:58] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board): [INVESTIGATE] Why is VisualEditor not available in UI for logged out users at en.wiki? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252482 (10matmarex) [15:52:57] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing QA, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.35; 2020-06-02): Visual editor breaks labeled sections, invisibly removes line breaks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247001 (10matmarex) [15:53:14] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing QA, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.36; 2020-06-09), 10covid-19: Noinclude with the VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937 (10matmarex) [15:56:39] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing QA, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.36; 2020-06-09), 10covid-19: Noinclude with the VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937 (10ppelberg) >>! In T250937#6165595, @matmarex wrote: > Do you think and the others ar... [16:13:46] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing QA, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.36; 2020-06-09), 10covid-19: Noinclude with the VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937 (10matmarex) >>! In T250937#6193332, @ppelberg wrote: > @matmarex: is what's live on patch demo [1... [16:50:39] (03PS3) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Drop linting from the VE API [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/599418 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253799) (owner: 10Esanders) [16:51:49] (03PS4) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Drop linting from the VE API [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/599418 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253799) (owner: 10Esanders) [16:52:25] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 03+2] "Removed localisation messages and other remains of the 'lint' option." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/599418 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253799) (owner: 10Esanders) [17:07:42] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review: [Regression] VisualEditor not available in WikiEditor's toolbar for logged out users at en.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253941 (10matmarex) Scheduled for today: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#deployc... [17:12:36] 10Citoid, 10Operations, 10Wikimedia-Logstash, 10observability, and 3 others: Move citoid logging to new logging pipeline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219919 (10Mvolz) >>! In T219919#6192799, @Pchelolo wrote: > The patch above doesn't change anything in production. In general, having 'config.prod.ya... [17:12:56] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Drop linting from the VE API [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/599418 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253799) (owner: 10Esanders) [17:14:54] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.36; 2020-06-09), and 2 others: RESTBase linting API is very slow (not cached) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253799 (10matmarex) [17:30:51] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Remove mw:Placeholder from mw:DisplaySpace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254502 (10cscott) [17:37:40] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Remove mw:Placeholder from mw:DisplaySpace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254502 (10Arlolra) See T94509 for context [17:42:08] 10VisualEditor, 10OOUI: Visual Editor Toolbar elements not accessible by keyboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254503 (10Bkudiess-msft) [17:45:37] 10VisualEditor, 10OOUI: Visual Editor Toolbar elements not accessible by keyboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254503 (10Bkudiess-msft) This one is a little tricky. The toolbar controls are only enabled is user has its focus on the editor textbox, because it needs to know where to insert elements and w... [17:45:52] 10VisualEditor, 10OOUI, 10Accessibility: Visual Editor Toolbar elements not accessible by keyboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254503 (10Bkudiess-msft) [17:50:50] (03PS1) 10C. Scott Ananian: French spacing (mw:DisplaySpace) doesn't have mw:Placeholder any more [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602437 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254502) [17:53:44] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Make it possible to use to select a user from the username suggestion list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254415 (10matmarex) (waiting for next OOUI release) [18:09:05] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] French spacing (mw:DisplaySpace) doesn't have mw:Placeholder any more [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602437 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254502) (owner: 10C. Scott Ananian) [18:30:21] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review: [Regression] VisualEditor not available in WikiEditor's toolbar for logged out users at en.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253941 (10matmarex) The patches were reverted, they didn't work as expected: * On eswiki, it res... [18:37:46] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board): [Regression] VisualEditor not available in WikiEditor's toolbar for logged out users at en.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253941 (10matmarex) [19:07:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10TemplateStyles, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.24; 2020-03-17): TemplateStyles not loaded in NWE preview - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212085 (10matmarex) >>! In T212085#6106391, @XanonymusX wro... [20:01:22] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Patch-For-Review: Remove mw:Placeholder from mw:DisplaySpace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254502 (10Arlolra) [20:05:51] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Patch-For-Review: Remove mw:Placeholder from mw:DisplaySpace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254502 (10Arlolra) [20:06:11] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Patch-For-Review: Remove mw:Placeholder from mw:DisplaySpace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254502 (10ssastry) p:05Triage→03Medium [20:21:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10TemplateStyles, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.24; 2020-03-17): TemplateStyles not loaded in NWE preview - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212085 (10XanonymusX) I have now opened T254518 for the rem... [20:22:06] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Patch-For-Review: Remove mw:Placeholder and data-parsoid from mw:DisplaySpace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254502 (10cscott) [20:22:52] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Patch-For-Review: Remove mw:Placeholder and data-parsoid from mw:DisplaySpace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254502 (10cscott) [20:33:12] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Patch-For-Review: Remove mw:Placeholder and data-parsoid from mw:DisplaySpace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254502 (10Arlolra) Depending on the resolution here, we might need to mark mw:DisplaySpace as uneditable in the TestRunner. See https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/medi... [21:08:27] (03PS2) 10Esanders: build: Drop the 'git-build' step [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595050 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:09:17] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Performance, 10MediaWiki-General, 10MediaWiki-Interface, and 10 others: [EPIC] Use Parsoid HTML for all page views - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55784 (10cscott) [21:13:41] (03CR) 10Esanders: "Seems like an upstream issue. Most commit messages are this long anyway but this is still an improvement over the tiny scrollbar." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/600927 (owner: 10Esanders) [21:21:30] 10VisualEditor, 10Product-Analytics, 10Editing-team (Tracking): VE mobile default: analyze A/B test results - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221198 (10MNeisler) @ppelberg Thanks for clarifying the scope. See answers to your open questions as well as some follow-up questions below: > How much time do... [21:41:26] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update OOUI to v0.39.1 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602501 [21:45:39] (03PS3) 10Esanders: Allow generic params to be passed to getWikitextFragment [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/587739 [22:09:08] (03CR) 10VolkerE: [C: 03+2] Update OOUI to v0.39.1 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602501 (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:12:10] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update OOUI to v0.39.1 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602501 (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:47:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10TemplateStyles: TemplateStyles not applied when loading VE/NWE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254518 (10Aklapper) [22:52:33] 10VisualEditor, 10Accessibility: Visual Editor Toolbar elements not accessible by keyboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254503 (10Volker_E) [23:03:28] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Make it possible to use to select a user from the username suggestion list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254415 (10Volker_E) [23:13:26] 10Cite, 10Contributors-Team, 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Configuration, and 5 others: Support listing modules in extension.json that are registered if another extension is installed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128012 (10Legoktm) >>! In T128012#6187030, @Krinkle wrote: > Spelled out example of what...