[00:08:19] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.31; 2020-05-05), and 2 others: Provide a mechanism for in-surface autocomplete - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232601 (10ppelberg) [00:44:36] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review: Apply VisualEditorFeatureUse schema changes to all editing interfaces - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252925 (10ppelberg) [04:17:38] 10WikiEditor: Preview scrolls the edit window to the top of the wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254962 (10Jonesey95) [04:18:00] 10WikiEditor: Preview scrolls the edit window to the top of the wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254962 (10Jonesey95) [07:09:35] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] build: Update devDependencies [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/603955 (owner: 10Esanders) [07:15:22] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "Should we do the same for noinclude and onlyinclude, which are also invalid as singleton tags?" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604131 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [07:27:28] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Update devDependencies [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/603955 (owner: 10Esanders) [07:33:39] 10WikiEditor: Preview scrolls the edit window to the top of the wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254962 (10Aklapper) @Jonesey95: Which web browser(s) and versions has this been tested with? Wondering if this is the same underlying issue as T254705 [11:04:49] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Replace browser blacklist/whitelist with (un)supportedList [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604342 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) [11:09:08] (03PS1) 10Esanders: ve.Filibuster: 'blacklist' -> 'nowrapList' [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604344 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) [11:09:51] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Replace browser blacklist/whitelist with (un)supportedList [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604342 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [11:10:44] (03PS2) 10Esanders: ve.Filibuster: 'blacklist' -> 'nowrapList' [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604344 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) [11:13:42] (03PS1) 10Esanders: ve.dm.Node: blacklistedAnnotationTypes -> disallowedAnnotationTypes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604346 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) [11:14:49] (03PS1) 10Esanders: VE BetaFeatures: Use unsupportedList [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604347 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) [11:15:53] (03PS1) 10Esanders: ve.dm.Node: blacklistedAnnotationTypes -> disallowedAnnotationTypes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604348 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) [11:20:52] (03PS2) 10Esanders: ve.dm.Node: blacklistedAnnotationTypes -> disallowedAnnotationTypes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604346 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) [11:25:49] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Various documentation fixes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604352 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) [11:26:37] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] ve.Filibuster: 'blacklist' -> 'nowrapList' [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604344 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [11:29:20] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: ve.Filibuster: 'blacklist' -> 'nowrapList' [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604344 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [11:32:06] (03CR) 10Jforrester: ve.dm.Node: blacklistedAnnotationTypes -> disallowedAnnotationTypes (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604346 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [11:33:23] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] VE BetaFeatures: Use unsupportedList [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604347 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [11:33:57] (03CR) 10DannyS712: [C: 03+1] Various documentation fixes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604352 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [11:34:15] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "We don't actually use this any more… we could just drop it?" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604342 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [11:59:01] 10Citoid: Citoid can't load CzechTV articles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251468 (10matej_suchanek) A today's highlight (`https://ct24.ceskatelevize.cz/svet/3116117-slovensky-expremier-pellegrini-opousti-smer-sd-zalozi-novou-stranu`) still doesn't work. I receive Code 404 `Error: Not Found`. @Mvolz May... [12:05:26] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Various documentation fixes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604352 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [12:07:58] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Various documentation fixes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604352 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [14:19:44] 10Editing-team, 10Commons, 10ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension), 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 5 others: Mediawiki maintenance job "generate-fancycaptcha" - fatal error when trying to copy new captchas to storage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230245 (10Reedy) The jump to 7.2.31 didn't help ` reedy@... [15:04:13] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Factor out revision fetching and validation logic from ApiVisualEditor to ApiParsoidTrait [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604418 [15:05:11] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Factor out revision fetching and validation logic from ApiVisualEditor to ApiParsoidTrait [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604418 [15:12:33] (03PS3) 10Esanders: Factor out revision fetching and validation logic from ApiVisualEditor to ApiParsoidTrait [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604418 [15:16:57] (03PS4) 10Esanders: Factor out revision fetching and validation logic from ApiVisualEditor to ApiParsoidTrait [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604418 [15:19:37] (03PS1) 10Esanders: ApiParsoidTrait: Add typehints [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604422 [15:20:20] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Remove 'blacklist' in documentation [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604423 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) [15:24:17] (03CR) 10Esanders: "I believe we serve JS to these browsers as they mostly pass our feature checks. It may be that we can update the list or even reduce it to" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604342 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:29:01] (03CR) 10Esanders: "Tests are failing with "Exception caught: GlobalVarConfig::get: undefined option: 'VisualEditorBrowserBlacklist'" but I can't find any oth" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604342 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:31:20] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: Replace browser blacklist/whitelist with (un)supportedList [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604342 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:33:30] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: VE BetaFeatures: Use unsupportedList [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604347 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:33:59] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Replace browser blacklist/whitelist with (un)supportedList [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604342 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:34:32] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Remove 'blacklist' in documentation [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604423 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:35:02] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+1] "Lovely to see." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604422 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:37:37] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Factor out revision fetching and validation logic from ApiVisualEditor to ApiParsoidTrait [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604418 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:40:39] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ApiParsoidTrait: Add typehints [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604422 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:55:57] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Replace browser blacklist/whitelist with (un)supportedList [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604342 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:56:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: VE BetaFeatures: Use unsupportedList [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604347 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:56:17] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove 'blacklist' in documentation [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604423 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254646) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:58:08] (03CR) 10DLynch: Factor out revision fetching and validation logic from ApiVisualEditor to ApiParsoidTrait (033 comments) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604418 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:59:15] 10WikiEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror, 10Browser-Support-Google-Chrome, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.36; 2020-06-09): Links, images, tables, and citations added at top instead of position in WikiEditor when syntax highlighting is enable... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254612 [16:44:46] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "They behave differently, so this is not relevant (they have two separate nodes, one for the opening tag and one for the closing tag)." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604131 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250937) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [17:57:55] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor wgVisualEditorSkinToolbarScrollOffset seems to not work properly with Chameleon fixed header - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250600 (10JTannerWMF) The Editing team hasn't heard anything back regarding this task so we are moving it to the freezer. [18:07:54] (03CR) 10Urbanecm: [C: 03+2] "backport" [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.35.0-wmf.35) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604138 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253941) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:24:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make VisualEditorDisableForAnons only hide the tabs, not disable the editor [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.35.0-wmf.35) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604138 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253941) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:26:04] (03PS5) 10Esanders: Factor out revision fetching and validation logic to ApiParsoidTrait [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604418 [18:26:06] (03PS2) 10Esanders: ApiParsoidTrait: Add typehints [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604422 [18:28:08] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10ppelberg) [18:29:34] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10ppelberg) [18:31:13] (03CR) 10Urbanecm: [C: 03+2] "backport" [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.35.0-wmf.36) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604139 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253941) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:48:26] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make VisualEditorDisableForAnons only hide the tabs, not disable the editor [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.35.0-wmf.36) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604139 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253941) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:49:38] 10WikiEditor: Preview scrolls the edit window to the top of the wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254962 (10Aklapper) And does this also happen without syntax highlighting? [18:50:26] 10WikiEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror, 10Browser-Support-Google-Chrome, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.36; 2020-06-09): Links, images, tables, and citations added at top instead of position in WikiEditor when syntax highlighting is enable... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254612 [18:58:22] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review: [Regression] VisualEditor not available in WikiEditor's toolbar for logged out users at en.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253941 (10matmarex) This seems to work as expected now: on English or Spanish Wikipedia I see th... [18:58:38] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 03+2] "Per Ed, backports were merged" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602740 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253941) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:08:55] (03CR) 10Esanders: Factor out revision fetching and validation logic to ApiParsoidTrait (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604418 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:18:00] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make VisualEditorDisableForAnons only hide the tabs, not disable the editor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602740 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253941) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:20:00] (03CR) 10DLynch: [C: 03+2] ApiParsoidTrait: Add typehints [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604422 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:24:51] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: api: Specify PARAM_TYPE => 'text' for multi-line text parameters [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604491 [19:26:23] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing QA, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.35; 2020-06-02): [Regression] VisualEditor not available in WikiEditor's toolbar for logged out users at en.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253941 (10matmarex) [19:28:43] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 03+2] Update VisualEditorFeatureUse with new fields [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/603545 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252925) (owner: 10DLynch) [19:28:46] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 03+2] Update VisualEditorFeatureUse with new fields [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/603549 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252925) (owner: 10DLynch) [19:32:53] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Move restbaseId stripping to ve.utils.parsoid [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604494 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253584) [19:53:47] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VisualEditorFeatureUse with new fields [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/603545 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252925) (owner: 10DLynch) [19:53:50] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VisualEditorFeatureUse with new fields [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/603549 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252925) (owner: 10DLynch) [20:12:23] 10VisualEditor, 10OWC2020, 10Product-Analytics, 10Editing-team (Tracking): Analyze the number of distinct contributors using DiscussionTools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240704 (10ppelberg) **CLOSING AS DUPLICATE** //Documenting an outcome from the meeting @MNeisler, @Mayakp.wiki and I had today..... [20:12:37] 10VisualEditor, 10OWC2020, 10Product-Analytics, 10Editing-team (Tracking): Analyze the number of distinct contributors using DiscussionTools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240704 (10ppelberg) [21:12:36] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor: Add support for editing templates' parameters as DOM elements ("visually"), including supporting nested templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52355 (10ssastry) [21:25:13] (03PS2) 10C. Scott Ananian: French spacing (mw:DisplaySpace) doesn't have mw:Placeholder any more [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602437 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254502) [21:26:24] 10Citoid: Set up the citoid service for xhwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255076 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) [21:31:58] (03CR) 10DannyS712: [C: 03+2] api: Specify PARAM_TYPE => 'text' for multi-line text parameters [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604491 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:33:58] (03CR) 10DannyS712: [C: 04-2] "We shouldn't be introducing new uses of Revision objects - the class is deprecated (T246284)" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604418 (owner: 10Esanders) [21:51:38] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: api: Specify PARAM_TYPE => 'text' for multi-line text parameters [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604491 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [22:06:27] 10VisualEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), 10OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0): Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252083 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) I don't want "1B" (the "let's put templates on ev... [22:57:06] 10VisualEditor, 10Product-Analytics, 10Editing-team (Tracking): VE mobile default: analyze A/B test results - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221198 (10Mayakp.wiki) Moving this task to Upcoming Quarter on the Product Analytics board as confirmed in weekly 1:1 with Peter and Megan.