[00:33:38] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0): New discussion v1.0: create mockups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243248 (10Esanders) From https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Vpxmgw1ysjhqwdaf: >Ad Huikeshoven: >Here are examples of how to start a discussion on o... [01:09:17] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools: Discussion tools misplaces signature with lists - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263217 (10Urbanecm) [06:45:29] 10Editing-team, 10DynamicPageList (Wikimedia), 10Platform Engineering, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, and 3 others: DPL extension has been disabled on Russian Wikinews - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262391 (10Krassotkin) Perhaps we should hand over such critical software to Foundation developers? Not onl... [07:36:50] 10Editing-team, 10DynamicPageList (Wikimedia), 10Platform Engineering, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, and 3 others: DPL extension has been disabled on Russian Wikinews - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262391 (10Aklapper) See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_stewardship_reviews [07:52:32] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10MobileFrontend, and 4 others: MobileFrontend overlay toolbar can have no top border in Chrome 69 on Android - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T204691 (10Aklapper) [07:53:10] 10Citoid, 10Operations, 10Wikimedia-Logstash, 10serviceops, 10Platform Engineering (Icebox): Citoid is logging all request / response headers as separate fields - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239713 (10Aklapper) [08:08:22] 10Editing-team, 10DynamicPageList (Wikimedia), 10Platform Engineering, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, and 3 others: DPL extension has been disabled on Russian Wikinews - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262391 (10Krassotkin) @Aklapper Sorry, but I didn't get it. Doesn't the Foundation have its own developers? [08:09:24] 10Editing-team, 10DynamicPageList (Wikimedia), 10Platform Engineering, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, and 3 others: DPL extension has been disabled on Russian Wikinews - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262391 (10RhinosF1) >>! In T262391#6473688, @Krassotkin wrote: > @Aklapper Sorry, but I didn't get it. Doe... [08:14:09] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Patch-For-Review, and 2 others: Highlight on VE not covering full button area - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259331 (10ovasileva) Discussed this with @ppelberg yesterday and I think we can drop the priority for now and try to fix it... [08:15:09] 10Editing-team, 10DynamicPageList (Wikimedia), 10Platform Engineering, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, and 3 others: DPL extension has been disabled on Russian Wikinews - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262391 (10Krassotkin) @RhinosF1 And why can't we identify and transfer critical code to WMF staff support? [08:19:43] 10Editing-team, 10DynamicPageList (Wikimedia), 10Platform Engineering, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, and 3 others: DPL extension has been disabled on Russian Wikinews - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262391 (10RhinosF1) >>! In T262391#6473696, @Krassotkin wrote: > @RhinosF1 And why can't we identify and t... [08:46:52] 10Editing-team, 10DynamicPageList (Wikimedia), 10Platform Engineering, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, and 3 others: DPL extension has been disabled on Russian Wikinews - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262391 (10Krassotkin) As written above it turned out that we have unsupported bomb-level code. I don't kno... [08:50:53] 10Editing-team, 10DynamicPageList (Wikimedia), 10Platform Engineering, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, and 3 others: DPL extension has been disabled on Russian Wikinews - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262391 (10RhinosF1) > I don't know how to solve this problem. You already have @Bawolff, @Urbanecm, @Maro... [09:25:45] 10Editing-team, 10DynamicPageList (Wikimedia), 10Platform Engineering, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, and 3 others: DPL extension has been disabled on Russian Wikinews - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262391 (10Bawolff) Not sure the bomb metaphor is helpful. There's other features in mediawiki that would a... [09:59:42] 10Editing-team, 10DynamicPageList (Wikimedia), 10Platform Engineering, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, and 3 others: DPL extension has been disabled on Russian Wikinews - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262391 (10Krassotkin) >>! In T262391#6473815, @Bawolff wrote: > [...] > The proposed alternative is to rew... [11:40:47] 10VisualEditor: Failure on publishing the page if past a multi-row text from other website on Chinese Wikipedia under VisulEditor. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263245 (10Koala0090) [11:46:25] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: Failure on publishing the page if past a multi-row text from other website on Chinese Wikipedia under VisulEditor. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263245 (10Xiplus) [11:51:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: Failure on publishing the page if paste a multi-row text from other website on Chinese Wikipedia under VisulEditor. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263245 (10Koala0090) [12:18:04] (03PS4) 10Esanders: ve.ce.Surface: Allow tabbing out of surfaces without indentation features [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/612422 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172694) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [12:22:39] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10DiscussionTools, 10Growth-Team, and 4 others: User can't tab out VisualEditor surfaces, e.g. comment input widgets, media dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172694 (10Esanders) @ppelberg I think that behaviour is deliberate, you are supposed to use arrow... [13:02:47] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10MW-1.35-release, and 3 others: Zeroconf VisualEditor/Parsoid doesn't seem to work on SQLite - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259685 (10daniel) p:05Triage→03Medium [13:16:20] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10MinervaNeue, 10MobileFrontend: Add option to hide page protection editnotices on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263255 (10Proc) [13:17:19] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10MinervaNeue, 10MobileFrontend: Add option to hide page protection editnotices on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263255 (10Proc) [13:18:15] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10MinervaNeue, 10MobileFrontend: Add option to hide page protection editnotices on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263255 (10Proc) [13:29:44] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2020-21-Q1): [Regression] UI regressions in VE on Beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259083 (10alexhollender) [13:29:46] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Patch-For-Review, and 2 others: Highlight on VE not covering full button area - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259331 (10alexhollender) [13:47:32] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE): [POC] Update parameter list design in editor [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628329 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261873) [13:51:14] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE): Update a few confusing variable names in editor code [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628332 [13:51:23] 10VisualEditor, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2020-21-Q1): [Regression] UI regressions in VE on Beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259083 (10alexhollender) I've merged this into T259331 because: >1. There is an extra line appe... [13:54:25] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE): Add missing ResourceLoader module for the trash icon [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628333 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258820) [14:00:57] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10Spike, 10Vue.js: Research spike: vue.js and visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247083 (10marcella) [14:14:00] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [POC] Update parameter list design in editor [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628329 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261873) (owner: 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE)) [14:35:39] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Add missing ResourceLoader module for the trash icon [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628333 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258820) (owner: 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE)) [14:58:45] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add missing ResourceLoader module for the trash icon [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628333 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258820) (owner: 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE)) [15:16:47] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board): [SPIKE] Understand how editing interface preferences are set - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261978 (10Esanders) This user preference is called `visualeditor-tabs`. * It is only show in Single-Edit-Tab wikis[1]. Th... [15:16:49] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing QA, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board): Visual Editor adds link= parameter to image when only caption is edited - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257581 (10Esanders) [15:17:45] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing QA, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board): Visual Editor adds link= parameter to image when only caption is edited - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257581 (10Esanders) Looks like Parsoid has put in a fix so hopefully there is nothing more for us to do here. [16:14:09] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE): Fix all eslint warnings [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628402 [16:18:45] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE): [POC] Update parameter list design in editor [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628329 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261873) [16:34:30] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Fix all eslint warnings [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628402 (owner: 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE)) [16:52:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fixes: Error: Bad constructor arguments [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628142 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [17:28:09] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board): Mobile should inherit desktop editing preferences - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261423 (10Esanders) If we check if either `visualeditor-hidebetawelcome` or `visualeditor-hideusered` is set, that should catch almo... [17:43:18] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review: Mobile should inherit desktop editing preferences - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261423 (10Esanders) The first patch (628409) applies the logic of checking the hidebetawelcome/hideusered pref... [18:04:09] 10VisualEditor, 10Growth-Team, 10ProofreadPage, 10StructuredDiscussions, and 2 others: Deprecate SkinMinervaDefaultModules hook - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256086 (10Jdlrobson) The proof read page example will need some input from VisualEditor (editing team) about what the best way to disable the... [18:25:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board): Deleting extraneous line breaks in a section creates a duplicate paragraph when using visual editor on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262515 (10Esanders) [18:40:22] 10Editing-team, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10MinervaNeue, 10MobileFrontend: Add option to hide page protection editnotices on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263255 (10matmarex) Can you clarify what you mean, or include a screenshot? As far as I can tell, editnotices are... [18:53:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: Failure on publishing the page if paste a multi-row text from other website on Chinese Wikipedia under VisulEditor. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263245 (10matmarex) Same error message as T259730, T191487 [19:16:10] 10VisualEditor, 10Product-Analytics, 10Editing-team (Tracking): VE mobile default: analyze A/B test results - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221198 (10ppelberg) **18-Sep update** Megan and I are finalizing the draft update that we will post to the [VisualEditor on mobile/VE mobile default](https://www.me... [20:21:40] (03PS1) 10Krinkle: build: Remove Gemfile and rubocop files [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628437 [20:26:09] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "I was waiting for the final removal of the Ruby files for the jsduck work, as you can see from the conflict…" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628437 (owner: 10Krinkle) [20:27:41] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10User-Ryasmeen: [Regression pre-wmf.2] VE is not opening on Beta cluster using Chrome - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258988 (10Ryasmeen) 05Resolved→03Open [20:29:20] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10User-Ryasmeen: [Regression pre-wmf.2] VE is not opening on Beta cluster using Chrome - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258988 (10Ryasmeen) Reopening since this still happens sometimes for me. [20:45:58] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Editing-team (Tracking), 10MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.4; 2020-08-11), and 2 others: Remove mw:Placeholder and data-parsoid from mw:DisplaySpace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254502 (10Arlolra) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Arlolra [20:53:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: Failure on publishing the page if paste a multi-row text from other website on Chinese Wikipedia under VisulEditor. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263245 (10matmarex) This is the same as T191487 – the star icons on that page are inline nodes with no content, same... [20:54:09] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10User-Ryasmeen: VisualEditor crashes with "Annotation with hash not found in store" when saving after pasting certain rich text content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191487 (10matmarex) [20:54:20] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: Failure on publishing the page if paste a multi-row text from other website on Chinese Wikipedia under VisulEditor. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263245 (10matmarex) [20:54:48] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10User-Ryasmeen: VisualEditor crashes with "Annotation with hash not found in store" when saving after pasting certain rich text content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191487 (10matmarex) a:... [20:55:26] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board): Exception when pasting specific text: Uncaught Error: Annotation with hash h239fd2c5223f3ea1 not found in store - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259730 (10matmarex) a:03matmarex [20:57:54] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board): Exception when pasting specific text: Uncaught Error: Annotation with hash h239fd2c5223f3ea1 not found in store - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259730 (10matmarex) This is caused by the following markup there: ` (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: ElementLinearData: Remap annotations on nodes too when sanitizing pastes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628440 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259730) [20:59:10] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: ElementLinearData: Remap annotations on moved meta nodes too [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628441 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191487) [20:59:12] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: ElementLinearData: Remove moved metadata too when removing metadata [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628442 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191487) [20:59:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review: VisualEditor crashes with "Annotation with hash not found in store" when saving after pasting certain rich text content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191487 (10matmarex) [20:59:44] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review: Exception when pasting specific text: Uncaught Error: Annotation with hash h239fd2c5223f3ea1 not found in store - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259730 (10matmarex) [21:00:07] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] "Needs unit tests" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628441 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191487) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:00:13] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] "Needs unit tests" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628442 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191487) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:00:19] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] "Needs unit tests" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628440 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259730) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:00:52] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ElementLinearData: Remap annotations on nodes too when sanitizing pastes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628440 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259730) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:01:13] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ElementLinearData: Remap annotations on moved meta nodes too [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628441 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191487) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:01:14] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ElementLinearData: Remove moved metadata too when removing metadata [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/628442 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191487) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:26:00] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools: Discussion tools misplaces signature with lists - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263217 (10matmarex) In visual mode it actually behaves the way you want. I think we didn't do it for wikitext because we didn't want to get into wikitext parsing. As a workaround, you can ty... [21:28:42] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Identify visual enhancement design questions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263296 (10ppelberg) [21:29:01] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Identify visual enhancement design questions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263296 (10ppelberg) [21:30:19] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Identify visual enhancement design questions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263296 (10ppelberg) [21:30:57] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Identify visual enhancement design questions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263296 (10ppelberg) **Next steps** - [ ] @iamjessklein and @ppelberg to refine the scope of this task. [21:34:36] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: [RESEARCH SPIKE] Identify visual enhancement design questions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263296 (10ppelberg)