[02:23:45] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020, 10Beta-Feature: Make the Reply Tool available as a Beta Feature at en.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273146 (10ppelberg) [02:42:46] 10WikiEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Page_Forms, 10Patch-For-Review: "editor=wikieditor" no longer works in Page Forms for MW 1.34 and higher - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246199 (10Yaron_Koren) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Yaron_Koren I believe this now works again, with the latest code for both Page... [02:44:57] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020, 10Beta-Feature: Consult with volunteers at en.wiki about offering the Reply Tool as a Beta Feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273147 (10ppelberg) [02:55:32] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020, 10Beta-Feature: Make the Reply Tool available as a Beta Feature at en.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273146 (10ppelberg) [02:57:27] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020, 10Beta-Feature: Consult with volunteers at en.wiki about offering the Reply Tool as a Beta Feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273147 (10ppelberg) [04:58:14] (03PS5) 10Divec: WIP: use mutation observer to detect structural deletions [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/574517 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230323) [05:05:23] (03PS6) 10Divec: WIP: use mutation observer to detect structural deletions [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/574517 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230323) [05:13:17] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.29; 2021-02-02): Do not save unused (or deliberately removed) suggested parameters when inserting or editing transclusions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101075 (10Krinkle) >>! In... [09:58:27] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Wrong tab for switch field - Insert a template with VE quickly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273104 (10Aklapper) 05Open→03Stalled @NemoLePoisson: Hi, then how/when to get to the buttons by using the tab key, given that I do not or cannot use a mouse pointer (#accessib... [10:07:29] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Wrong tab for switch field - Insert a template with VE quickly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273104 (10thiemowmde) 05Stalled→03Declined I understand the idea, but as Andre said, this would make it impossible to reach the skipped buttons for users that can't use a mous... [11:37:37] 10VisualEditor: Remove unused config options VisualEditorNewAccountEnableProportion and VisualEditorAutoAccountEnable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273177 (10matmarex) [11:40:23] 10VisualEditor: Remove unused config options VisualEditorNewAccountEnableProportion and VisualEditorAutoAccountEnable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273177 (10matmarex) CC @Jdforrester-WMF in case you have some historical context to add. I found: * 2015: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/mediawi... [12:07:10] 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor tabs preferences work incorrectly in the Zulu Wiktionary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200016 (10matmarex) 05Open→03Invalid a:03matmarex I had a look today and I could not reproduce this problem (I was searching for any bugs related to T271434). Please re-open if it sti... [12:49:00] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-User-preferences: Rephrase "Temporarily disable the visual editor while it is in beta" in Special:Preferences - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197282 (10matmarex) I agree that we should change it. Current wording implies two things which are not true: * That visual editor is in... [14:47:23] 10Editing-team, 10Analytics, 10Event-Platform: EditAttemptStep Event Platform Migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267343 (10Ottomata) [14:47:34] 10Editing-team, 10Analytics, 10Event-Platform: EditAttemptStep Event Platform Migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267343 (10Ottomata) [14:49:23] 10Editing-team, 10Analytics, 10Event-Platform: VisualEditorFeatureUse Event Platform Migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267353 (10Ottomata) a:03Ottomata This schema will be migrated starting the week of Feb 1 - Feb 5 2021. [14:49:39] 10Editing-team, 10Analytics, 10Event-Platform: EditAttemptStep Event Platform Migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267343 (10Ottomata) a:03Ottomata This schema will be migrated starting the week of Feb 1 - Feb 5 2021. Let us know if there are any objections and we can delay. [14:50:22] 10VisualEditor: Contradictory (or duplicate) user preferences for enabling/disabling VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273188 (10matmarex) [15:10:08] 10VisualEditor: Preference "Editing mode" always appears on single-edit-tab wikis where VisualEditor is a beta feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273189 (10matmarex) [15:12:57] 10VisualEditor: Preference "Editing mode" always appears on single-edit-tab wikis where VisualEditor is a beta feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273189 (10matmarex) (I noticed this bug in the code – the beta-feature and not-beta-feature mode were handled inconsistently – when working on T271434, and t... [15:51:15] 10VisualEditor: Preference "Editing mode" always appears on single-edit-tab wikis where VisualEditor is a beta feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273189 (10matmarex) There's a second issue: the same bug caused users on those wikis to never get the prompt about editing tabs when those wikis were switche... [15:52:59] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Clarify code setting 'visualeditor-autodisable' user option [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659298 [15:53:01] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Remove unused config options VisualEditorNewAccountEnableProportion and VisualEditorAutoAccountEnable [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659299 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273177) [15:53:03] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Do not define contradictory user preferences for enabling/disabling VE [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659300 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273188) [15:53:05] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Ignore user prefs for enabling/disabling VE which are not settable [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659301 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T271434) [15:53:07] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Only show "Editing mode" preference when VE enabled (on SET beta-feature wikis) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659302 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273189) [15:58:08] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] "I proposed a different patch: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/659301" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/654894 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T271434) (owner: 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE)) [15:58:35] 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-GlobalPreferences, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), and 2 others: VisualEditor does not show up after (re)enabling it via normal preference, when VE is a beta feature and had been set to disabled in g... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T271434 [16:15:22] (03CR) 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE): [C: 03+1] "I did not tested this, but it makes a lot of sense. I dug deep into this code and believe I understand the meaning and behavior of all 3 p" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659301 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T271434) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:17:52] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] "Pending discussion on the task about what to do with the dialog" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659302 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273189) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:18:55] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review: Contradictory (or duplicate) user preferences for enabling/disabling VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273188 (10matmarex) [16:19:13] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review: Remove unused config options VisualEditorNewAccountEnableProportion and VisualEditorAutoAccountEnable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273177 (10matmarex) [16:21:49] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review: Preference "Editing mode" always appears on single-edit-tab wikis where VisualEditor is a beta feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273189 (10ppelberg) **Notes from conversation with Bartosz** //We came to wonder...// - [ ]... [16:22:23] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10Patch-For-Review: Preference "Editing mode" always appears on single-edit-tab wikis where VisualEditor is a beta feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273189 (10matmarex) [16:23:15] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10WMDE-Templates-FocusArea, and 2 others: Add suggested values to TemplateData and the related input in VE (ENUM) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T271825 (10ppelberg) [16:31:25] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board): Unable to open or switch to VE within UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T269194 (10ppelberg) >>! In T269194#6779943, @matmarex wrote: > Maybe this was the same as T271434? It looks like it was; I now have access to VE. I'm closing this ticket as a d... [16:32:15] 10VisualEditor, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board): Unable to open or switch to VE within UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T269194 (10ppelberg) [16:32:44] 10VisualEditor, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-GlobalPreferences, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), and 2 others: VisualEditor does not show up after (re)enabling it via normal preference, when VE is a beta feature and had been set to disabled in g... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T271434 [16:35:07] 10VisualEditor, 10WMDE-Templates-FocusArea, 10Editing-team (Tracking): VisualEditor template dialog should make good use of screen size - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272245 (10matmarex) [16:35:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TemplateWizard, and 3 others: Investigation: improved template search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272457 (10matmarex) [16:35:18] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10WMDE-Templates-FocusArea, 10Editing-team (Tracking): Add combobox to VE to display suggested values - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T271898 (10matmarex) [16:35:20] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10WMDE-Templates-FocusArea, 10Editing-team (Tracking): Add suggested values parameter property to TemplateData and to TemplateData editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T271897 (10matmarex) [16:35:26] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TemplateWizard, and 4 others: Fuzzier search - search for keywords out of order in template search (Template findability) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T271802 (10matmarex) [16:36:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Browser-Support-Firefox, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board): 2017 Wikitext editor stop saving changes when pasting in content with formatting on Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272777 (10ppelberg) [16:38:53] 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation: In Content Translation, added template that doesn't appear in the source article is not rendered after reopening the translation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251110 (10ppelberg) @Pginer-WMF: we're standing by for y'all to confirm this is //not//an issue within Cont... [16:47:29] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: [Epic] Scale DiscussionTools to all Wikipedias - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251207 (10ppelberg) [16:50:16] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications: Take the users to the exact location of the comment when clicking on a mention notification - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253082 (10ppelberg) [17:03:13] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Category search shouldn't be case and accent sensitive - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272962 (10matmarex) [17:04:02] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Suggest case insensitive results when searching for categories to add - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59302 (10matmarex) [17:12:41] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-Categories, 10User-Ryasmeen: LRM/RLM in the wikitext of a category assignment makes it impossible to edit/remove the category in VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128852 (10matmarex) 05Open→03Resolved a:03matmarex [17:13:08] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-Categories, 10User-Ryasmeen: LRM/RLM in the wikitext of a category assignment makes it impossible to edit/remove the category in VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128852 (10matmarex) I tried this locally and I can't reproduce. It might have been a... [18:19:18] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board): Differentiate between edits to existing sections and the creation of new sections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272544 (10ppelberg) p:05Triage→03High [18:41:10] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 03+2] Update OOUI to v0.41.1 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/658693 (owner: 10Jforrester) [18:47:45] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update OOUI to v0.41.1 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/658693 (owner: 10Jforrester) [18:54:04] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Move entity decoding into a utility function [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659373 [18:54:06] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Allow HTML entities in the special character list [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659374 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) [18:54:08] (03PS1) 10Esanders: SpecialCharacter: Small refactor of list building [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659375 [18:54:09] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Implement mwPlatform#decodeEntities [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659376 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) [19:03:17] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Browser-Support-Firefox, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board): 2017 Wikitext editor stop saving changes when pasting in content with formatting on Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272777 (10Esanders) @Berrely I can't reproduce th... [19:11:39] (03Restored) 10Esanders: Show non-breaking spaces in the editor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255936 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96666) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:11:47] (03PS4) 10Esanders: Show non-breaking spaces in the editor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255936 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96666) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:13:18] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 03+2] "If it's good enough for LibreOffice... (and it's better than nothing)." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255936 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96666) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:14:21] (03PS2) 10Esanders: SpecialCharacter: Small refactor of list building [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659375 [19:14:23] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Implement mwPlatform#decodeEntities [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659376 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) [19:20:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10Patch-For-Review: VisualEditor: Add non-breaking space (nbsp) to the "special character" dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429 (10PatchDemoBot) Test wiki created on [[ http://patchdemo.wmflabs.org | Patch Demo ]] by ESanders (WMF) using patch(es) lin... [19:20:11] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Wrong tab for switch field - Insert a template with VE quickly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273104 (10NemoLePoisson) Okkay, I understand. But I thinks that the vast majority of people use the tab key for win time, not for accessibility. Would it be possible to apply my p... [19:25:11] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10User-notice: Make non-breaking spaces (nbsp) visible in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96666 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:36:59] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Move entity decoding into a utility function [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659373 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:38:29] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Show non-breaking spaces in the editor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255936 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96666) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:40:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-notice: VisualEditor: Add non-breaking space (nbsp) to the "special character" dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:40:28] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement mwPlatform#decodeEntities [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659376 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:41:17] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] SpecialCharacter: Small refactor of list building [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659375 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:42:56] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Allow HTML entities in the special character list [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659374 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:43:56] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Move entity decoding into a utility function [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659373 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:44:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Suggest case insensitive results when searching for categories to add - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59302 (10Pols12) >>! In T59302#2707969, @AlexMonk-WMF wrote: >>>! In T59302#2250944, @Pols12 wrote: >> Is it not possible to use the article search engine with (i... [19:50:38] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Allow HTML entities in the special character list [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659374 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:51:22] (03CR) 10Esanders: "recheck" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659376 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:52:11] (03CR) 10Jforrester: Implement mwPlatform#decodeEntities (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659376 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) (owner: 10Esanders) [19:55:25] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: build: Upgrade eslint-config-wikimedia from 0.18.0 to 0.18.1 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659407 [19:57:30] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (fe9082b21) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659408 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) [19:57:59] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: Implement mwPlatform#decodeEntities [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659376 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) (owner: 10Esanders) [20:11:21] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: SpecialCharacter: Small refactor of list building [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659375 (owner: 10Esanders) [20:22:48] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 03+2] Update VE core submodule to master (fe9082b21) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659408 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) (owner: 10Jforrester) [20:27:15] 10VisualEditor: changes get published before they should be - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268129 (10Esanders) 05Open→03Invalid Feel free to keep asking questions if you are having issues, but I don't see any problem with the software here. [20:29:39] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Implement mwPlatform#decodeEntities [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659376 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) (owner: 10Esanders) [20:32:16] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: Transform link labels of interwikis on paste - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T269221 (10Esanders) [20:51:26] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (fe9082b21) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659408 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) (owner: 10Jforrester) [20:57:42] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Implement mwPlatform#decodeEntities [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/659376 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429) (owner: 10Esanders) [21:55:13] 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: VisualEditor: Certain templates cannot be insterted by copy-pasting plaintext without the raw-text output of the template being inserted in its place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273234 (10Thjarkur) [22:03:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.28; 2021-01-26): Sidebar items are shown in wrong order in visual diffs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272315 (10Ryasmeen) [22:16:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), 10MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.28; 2021-01-26): Sidebar items are shown in wrong order in visual diffs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272315 (10Ryasmeen) >>! In T272315#6762999, @matmarex wrote: > With the patch applied... [22:27:20] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-VisualDiffs, 10Editing QA, 10Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board): "References" section always has a grey background for some reason in visual diffs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272314 (10Ryasmeen) @matmarex: It seems for the last one on this page there is still a gr...