[00:47:27] 03(mod) Empirically Stable Versions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11770 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [01:33:13] 03(NEW) Display message on user registration form if database locked - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11771 minor; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (pathoschild) [01:33:40] :O [01:33:46] :O [01:35:01] Datenbank is sparrt. [01:35:10] Base de datos bloqueada. [01:35:28] Spammer. [01:35:48] Yep. [02:42:16] <[TSK]> Greetings. A user on my MediaWiki installation is unable to log in. He's getting a "Duplicate entry 'Username' for key #" SQL error. [02:42:24] <[TSK]> Any idea how I can fix this? [02:45:33] <[TSK]> Nevermind. I modified the database directly to make the problem go away. [03:38:05] Someone tells me to "study the xml output" when it comes to exporting articles. How do I do that? Do I just read an [[xml output]] article on Wikipedia or where else do I read it? [04:48:39] 03(NEW) Properties don't display using specified unit synonyms - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11772 normal; high; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (info) [05:10:27] anybody here? [05:10:58] quick question, is there any way to have a '_' in an article name? [05:14:18] hello good people [05:23:54] I was here last night getting some help about exporting articles [05:24:00] and I thought I understood.. but.. [05:24:03] 10:52 PM: TimStarlin: ok, so to avoid several bugs, you need to use POST instead of GET [05:24:10] I'm not sure that's possible [05:34:39] 03(mod) Properties don't display using specified unit synonyms - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11772 (10info) [05:35:35] 03(mod) Properties don't display using specified unit synonyms - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11772 (10info) [05:45:14] 03(mod) Properties don't display using specified unit synonyms - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11772 +comment (10info) [05:47:42] 03gmaxwell * r26978 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialNewpages.php: This commit adds an option to Special:Newpages to hide new pages created by logged-in users. [05:53:03] ah, Tim, just the man I was hoping to see [06:04:36] what's up, Ned? [06:05:37] last night you were telling me about using POST instead of GET for article exporting [06:05:52] I thought I understood what you were talking about, but it seems I'm more of a noob than I thought I was [06:06:44] presumably you're writing some sort of client program that downloads the XML files, is that right? [06:07:56] me write a program? [06:08:01] o.O [06:08:04] no? [06:08:07] no [06:08:08] :) [06:08:35] alright, well in that case you'll need a client that can do the things I'm talking about [06:08:59] or you could just use history=1, it turns out that will give you the entire article history if you wait long enough [06:09:14] unless it times out, which is possible [06:09:27] I thought it had a bunch of bugs [06:09:37] well, limit and offset don't work [06:09:48] but it does give you the whole history of the article [06:09:59] really? [06:10:02] damn [06:10:04] that's perfect [06:14:51] well, thanks again! [06:19:07] Hello? [06:19:23] I would like a cloak on a new IRC nick. Whom do I ask for it? [06:21:32] a wikipedia cloak? [06:22:43] Either Wikipedia, Wiktionary, or Wikia. [06:22:52] The new nick I'd like it on is: "Takamatsu" [06:23:09] maybe you should try asking in #wikipedia [06:23:15] This current name doesn't sound serious enough anymore. [06:23:28] I'm not sure who handles the group contact stuff at the moment [06:23:47] Actually, maybe a Wiktionary cloak 'cause I edit on WT more often. But I don't know if anyone at #wiktionary can cloak me. [06:24:06] ask at #wikipedia anyway, it'll probably be the same person [06:29:41] just repeating my question, is there any way to have a '_' in an article name? [06:30:37] yes, but it'll be displayed as a space in most places [06:31:12] I don't think we have a decent way to put underscores in the display title [06:32:49] 03(mod) New-messages bar not coming up and/ or getting stuck up for IP addresses - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9213 (10N/A) [06:32:54] where can we see the last developement of the software which is operated for wikipedia.. [06:33:23] also did you, one of you, considered to develop an audio tool for a wiki ? [06:33:55] Jonathan26: There's a new audio player that was installed on Wikimedia wikis last month. [06:34:11] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler [06:42:06] when you push a button for an audio. you see the selection on the page over the word. (see reading bar for that) [06:43:24] a "text to speech" feature [07:25:27] 03(mod) Portal namespace for Vietnamese Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11764 +comment (10vinhtantran) [08:00:03] 03(NEW) linear value in factbox and list on Property page picks a random main unit - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11773 normal; high; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (info) [08:00:26] TimStarling: http://www.nabble.com/Anonymous-page-creation-will-be-reenabled-on-English-Wikipedia.-tf4699859.html [08:00:36] haha, I was thinking the same thing [08:03:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#Anonymous_page_creation_will_be_reenabled_on_English_Wikipedia [08:12:03] re [08:19:06] Hi all! [08:19:28] Hi [08:20:02] 03(mod) linear value in factbox and list on Property page picks a random main unit - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11773 (10info) [08:27:07] hi gangleri [08:31:06] hello [08:31:38] hello Nikerabbit [08:32:32] hi all [08:35:08] I am admin of mp-fr.com and I am using MediaWiki but I don't understand why all my contribution are recorded by mediaWiki as a rebot contribution, If I ask for recent change I don't saw My contrib, but if I enable Robot contrib I saw all of my contrib [08:36:09] Scube_fr, because you must be in bot group :) [08:36:43] No I am in root admin [08:37:06] how can i chek If i am also in robot group ? [08:37:27] go to [08:37:30] I am using IPBwiki to use MediaWiki with IPB [08:37:54] Special:Listusers [08:38:17] http://www.mp-fr.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3AListusers&username=&group=bot&limit=50 [08:38:24] no you aren't a bot [08:38:31] what's your user name? [08:38:48] scubefr [08:39:20] http://www.mp-fr.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3AListusers&username=scubefr&group=&limit=50 [08:40:48] scube_fr, It might be because Admin principal might have bot status too [08:41:15] for more information see: Manual:$wgGroupPermissions in mediawiki.org [08:42:21] ok thanks , i 'll check [08:43:02] Scube_fr, User permissions are defined in LocalSettings.php in mediawiki [08:43:22] but ipb wiki might have included it in another file too [08:44:37] yes in IPBwiki config .. i need to check this one too [08:44:52] Soroush83: sorting quicksort anim? :o [08:46:06] Nikerabbit, I've already seen it in wikipedia [08:46:57] looking it again [08:47:31] @Soroush83 : You're rigth Admin was also bots in IPBwiki config ! [08:47:33] thanks [08:48:13] Scube_fr, You're welcome [08:49:00] Nikerabbit, you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sorting_quicksort_anim.gif, don't you? [08:55:33] Is it possible to have external links (opening in a new window/tab) in the sidebar? [08:55:39] @Soroush83, sorry, but I was wonderuing it's Okay but still a bot but not in IPBwiki config , where can I check the mediawiki user rihgt ? I test Special:Userrights but it's tell me thats only enable for burocrates and not for me ... [08:55:59] The standard [link|text] Syntax doesn't work for me [08:56:25] HACK]Gara[, syntax is [link text] [08:57:31] Scube_fr, so you're config has left it for bureacrats [08:57:36] add: [08:59:05] Yes, this works for the link itself, but when i implement it into the sidebar like this: [08:59:05] [http://www.link.de LinkedWebsite] | Website [08:59:05] and click it it gives a wiki-internal "invalid title" page [08:59:28] $wgGroupPermissions['Admin']['userrights'] = true; [08:59:53] Scube_fr, You should put sth in the place of Admin [09:00:32] HACK]Gara[, sidebar doesn't need [ ] [09:00:53] But then again, the link won't be opened in a new tag >.< [09:00:54] HACK]Gara[, Just put: mypage|mytext [09:01:08] tag = tab [09:01:27] HACK]Gara[, can you show me the link plz? [09:01:42] the text in Sidebar [09:01:48] http://khadgara.uttx.net/wiki/Hauptseite <- Under "Externe links" [09:02:54] ** http://www.hack4life.de | HACK4Life Website [09:03:06] Is the MediaWiki:Sidebar wikitext [09:05:11] HACK]Gara[, no [09:05:20] it is not a wiki text [09:05:41] as you see ## doesn't work [09:06:05] the ## were only used to comment out the not needed stuff [09:06:20] on special:Calendar and Portal [09:07:06] HACK]Gara[, Your external links work there. What's the problem? [09:07:30] 03(mod) Define Utilisatrice: as an alias for User: on fr.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11682 (10koneko) [09:07:47] just you must remove [ from them [09:08:34] Soroush: Are they being opened in a new tab/window? [09:09:04] I'm using Opera and the open in target="_self", which closes the wiki [09:09:12] *they open [09:09:44] HACK]Gara[, no [09:10:16] HACK]Gara[, if you want to open them in a new window, you should change /skins/monobook.css [09:10:28] or [09:10:39] you might be able to do it in css [09:10:57] add [09:11:33] #pbody a{ target:_blank;} I'm not sure [09:12:09] won't this open all links in the body as externals= [09:12:19] but this must work. for this possiblity ask #css [09:12:43] okay, thanks [09:13:05] but I'm not sure [09:13:10] oh. .pbody not #pbody [09:16:13] @Soroush83: I am looking to add $wgGroupPermissions['Admin']['userrights'] = true; But I can't fine where are the permission seeting [09:17:00] Scube_fr, if you add it at the end of settings it surely works [09:17:18] but use sth else you want instead of Admin [09:17:47] in localseeting.php [09:18:32] Scube_fr: yes. [09:18:44] the group's name is sysop. [09:19:14] Duesentrieb, Scub_fr uses ipb wiki [09:19:32] Soroush83: ipb? [09:19:33] and he has defined some other groups too [09:19:57] IPBWiki [09:19:59] yes [09:20:12] Soroush83: how would he vae defined groups if he doesn't know how to define perimissions? [09:20:15] but whatever :P [09:20:31] it changes some files of mediawiki [09:20:32] Ok I try this [09:21:22] Duesentrieb, IPBWiki might have had defined them. [09:21:27] I'm not sure [09:21:42] I haven't worked with it [09:22:02] Soroush83: IPBWiki seems to be in violation of the GPL... [09:22:25] "he free version allows you to login to your MediaWiki wiki with your forum username, but it doesn't have the advanced features which IpbWiki Full has" [09:22:27] not good. [09:23:16] Duesentrieb, so it is against fsf not GNU [09:23:56] Soroush83: hm? all derivatives of a GPL software must be released under GPL (or not released at all) [09:25:01] Duesentrieb, but they can be free of charge or not [09:27:28] Soroush83: afaik the source code has to be available for free. but even if not: anyone who buys it can re-dirstibute for free. [09:27:32] It doesn't work if I add ['Admin']['userrights'] = true; at the end og locaseeting .php I get an error and the wiki doesn't xork [09:28:21] Duesentrieb, Yea, That's right [09:28:51] Scube_fr: Add: [09:29:13] OK i AM SORRY ITS4 WORKING WITH MY FIRST CHANGE IN ipb WIKI BUT NOT FOR OLD CONTRIB [09:29:21] ANLY FOR NEW CONTRIB [09:29:28] sorry for MAJ [09:29:29] yea [09:30:06] your last contributes have been stored in recentchanges db with bot flag [09:38:05] ugh [09:38:49] <_wooz> lo [09:50:11] Today sb asked about possiblity of changing sidebar links' to target="_blank" [09:50:37] it looks it is not possible through css [09:50:48] but js might be able to do it [09:52:18] but those links don't have an id or class, so they can't be captured in js [09:52:55] I think it is nice to define a class for them in monobook.php so it can't be changed in js [09:53:39] but I'm not sure it is the best way. [09:54:24] I think some links like donate had better to be opened in new window. [09:54:31] What's your idea? [09:56:12] They do have a class, problem is, it's a generic class applying to multiple other divs as well:
They DO have unique IDs, but I dunno how to figure them out, since they are created dnamically [09:56:46] class="portlet" [09:56:57] id='p- 03(NEW) New mailing list for eu.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11774 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (arkaitz) [10:09:56] 03(NEW) Disable uploads on Japanese Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11775 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (kanjy.wm) [10:16:06] Thanks all for helping .. bye [10:30:05] 03(NEW) Showing also articles in the CategoryTree of categories in he-wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11776 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (yonidebest) [11:06:27] is there a reason mediawiki uses depracated border="0" for images rather than style or some noborder class ? [11:07:43] deprecated even. [11:09:08] would be nice to see some of the html output tightened/cleaned up a bit. are patches for this kind of thing accepted? [11:44:15] Buzz_: if they don't cause regressions [11:46:03] ”Older browsers still need the border=0 attribute” [11:46:54] which ones ? surely you dont need to support 10 year old browsers still ? [11:47:36] Buzz_: MS IE 5.5 still has a ~30% market share... [11:48:13] not on any stats ive seen on any sites ive run in the last years [11:48:13] show me your stats :) [11:48:19] Buzz_: it doesn't say [11:48:21] IE 5.5? eewww [11:48:26] *Jack_Phoenix uses IE7 \o/ [11:48:28] supporting ie5.5 is pointless [11:48:40] No it isn't. [11:48:42] and i would argue the 30% [11:48:45] Buzz_: but really, it's up to you to prove that they don't need it [11:49:02] Buzz_: there is no point chaning it if it breaks browser still in use [11:49:39] break is a strong word [11:49:42] Buzz_: sorry, my mistake [11:50:17] Buzz_: ie6 is > 30%, ie5 is way down below 5% [11:50:25] Buzz_: with that attitude you aren't going to get very far [11:50:37] Nikerabbit: how do you mean ? [11:51:43] we should keep border=0 so that 4 in 100 people who are using a 10 year old browser dont have borders on images. iw ould argue those still using ie 5.5 probably can't even tell since they are using ie5.5 on the web, most sites are probably broken [11:52:11] Buzz_: you need to proove that there is no (significant amount of) browsers that support border= but doesn't support the style sheet alternative [11:52:24] there isnt.. i know that [11:52:34] Buzz_: the question is how hard it is to stay compatible. border="0" is no problem, so lets keep it. [11:52:40] well, I don't trust you that much [11:52:46] what proof. you want screenshots ? like i have nothing better to do ? :) [11:53:24] Buzz_: you have nothing better to do than break old browsers just for fun? [11:53:25] it is a problem when your trying to run a cleaner version of mediawiki without having to patch every version [11:53:40] there you go using that word again [11:53:47] since when does a border "break" a browser [11:54:16] I haven't seen a proof that it doesn't [11:55:28] it doesn't break the browser. it breaks the page (or page design) in the browser [11:55:30] I don't have anything against it in general, just that shooting in the dark isn't very good way to proceed [11:55:41] backwads compatibility is generally a) a pain and b) imprtant. [11:55:53] as long as it is not a MAJOR problem to stay compatible, stay compatible [11:56:01] since when am i shooting in the dark ? i do know a thing or two about web development you know :) [11:56:58] Duesentrieb: because it would be nice to see mediawiki embrace standards where it can. and i don't think border: 0; instead of border=0 is going to break the experience for anyone. [11:58:57] Duesentrieb: where did you get that 5% from ? [11:59:36] this isn't about opinions, this is about facts: which browser are affected? how many percentage of users are affected? [11:59:37] looks more like <2% [12:00:07] brion probably knows what browsers are used and how much [12:00:18] Buzz_: border="0" is standqards-compiant. using the css stuff would break the page design for some (if few) people. I vividly remember a user who broke all special characters in every article he edited. it was quite hard to convince him that it was his fault, he was sure he was using the "latest version of internet explorer". He was using the latest version for mac. which is 5.1.7 or something. [12:00:38] Duesentrieb: is it a deprecated tag in html4 [12:00:41] I use IE and I like it, but versions lesser than 7 = shit [12:00:50] s/tag/attribute [12:01:29] hi guys. [12:01:49] Buzz_: the 5% greatly depends on the source. wikis are mostly used by more web-savvy people, so the percentag of msie5 users is likely to be very small (except perhaps for wikipedia, which has become fairly mainstream). for websites that are used a lot by government, big companies, etc, the percentag is probably relatively high, because gib organisaions upgrade late, and upgrade seldom. [12:01:52] Duesentrieb: ok. but that isnt me though. [12:02:19] Duesentrieb: yes and i just checked a variety of stats from other kinds of sites. [12:02:40] Duesentrieb: infact i was looking at the stats for a local government site [12:03:00] Buzz_: look at stats for sites used *by* government people [12:03:17] but whatever. i'm not arguing the 5% [12:03:30] most stats i saw where lower, yes. and i said < 5%. [12:03:31] Duesentrieb: i have seen those too. most are running at least v6 though of ie [12:03:50] Duesentrieb: less than 5% when the actual figure is <2% is misleading [12:03:51] yes, moost are running msie6 (which also sucks massively wrt css) [12:04:03] but it doesnt support css border: 0 [12:04:06] does i mean [12:04:33] so? [12:04:55] having an additional attribute inthe image tag annoys you? [12:04:58] so, the original discussion was border: 0 and I am still talking about this. I am not talking generally. i didnt ask for other changes [12:05:01] yes [12:05:10] how about using an entirely different set of css placement rules for msie? [12:05:12] THAT sucks. [12:05:32] yet we still doe it. [12:05:34] for opera, too [12:06:12] i would like to see the core code of mediawiki able to produce clean markup.. for those that don't want to be as 'anal' as wikipedia :) [12:06:53] Buzz_: how about making it produce *valid* xhtml-transitional first, before worrying about deprecated stuff? [12:07:10] it does, mostly, but not always [12:07:16] Duesentrieb: because im trying to go the whole way [12:07:20] especially not without tidy [12:07:21] anyway. ill just patch my own copy.. [12:07:31] i use xhtml strict [12:08:13] make sure it's impossible to break it [12:08:23] Duesentrieb: about your multiple css's. you do it yes. i wouldnt but.. [12:08:31] Buzz_: change it [12:08:39] make it work for all browsers with a single css [12:08:57] i would be happy to commit that change, if it *really* works. [12:08:58] it does on my site, apart from the tabs which dont look perfect on all browsers, which i dont care about :-) [12:09:12] which browsers have you tested? [12:09:30] ie6/safari/konqueror/firefox/opera [12:10:05] eww IE6 [12:10:21] Jack_Phoenix: eeewww MSIE :P [12:10:31] [[bleh]] :p [12:10:31] sounds good, if it works, even if it works only with the latest version. how much did you modify the css? [12:10:41] Jack_Phoenix: eeewwww MS! [12:10:44] IE7 is nice, other IEs suck [12:11:06] oh ie7 also [12:11:13] Jack_Phoenix: have they finally fixed the PNG transparency bug in 7? [12:11:30] no idea [12:11:38] Duesentrieb: i dont use the wikipedia design [12:11:47] it's irrelevent [12:11:54] :) [12:12:02] well, it's relevant for us [12:12:03] i hated the PNG transparency bug [12:12:07] it's probably fixed [12:12:14] "probably"? [12:12:20] you konw IE [12:12:27] i know a few ways to work around ie6 png transparency issues.. [12:12:36] i used GIF [12:13:10] got to eat. will continue later :) [12:13:25] Jack_Phoenix: well, do you see a checkered background? how does the shadow look? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Circle-style-warning.svg [12:13:56] Buzz_: there's a javascript-based hack. it dies horribly on pages with lots of images. [12:14:18] at least, that's what i was told for a reason it was ditched after trying it out [12:14:35] IE should be ditched [12:14:55] Duesentrieb: yep, I see a checkered background on that image. the image seems to have a smallish shadow on the right side of the pic. [12:16:35] 03(NEW) Multible inputboxes make page invalid due to repetitive similar id - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11777 major; high; MediaWiki extensions: Inputbox; (danny_b) [12:16:36] Jack_Phoenix: if you see the checkeded background through the shadow, then the bug is fixed :) [12:17:43] yeah :D [12:19:22] Jack_Phoenix: http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html [12:19:34] (firefox fails this, but not too horribly) [12:19:51] IE fails that too :p [12:20:33] Jack_Phoenix: looks perfect in konqueror [12:20:48] (though in my experience, konqueror's css handling is rather quircky) [12:21:22] and it behaves oddly wrt to scrolling the page [12:28:49] Duesentrieb: Firefox 3 succeeds on acid2. [12:34:32] minute-ssh: cool [12:35:42] :D [12:43:16] Before running backupDump.php should I lock the database? [12:48:09] oh nice, i had to try it out http://s23.org/wiki/Image:Firefox3-minefield-acid2-pa.png [12:49:35] 03(FIXED) Portal namespace for Vietnamese Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11764 +comment (10jeluf) [12:49:41] Yeah, Opera 9 does that too. [12:50:54] i'm not allowed to install any latex packages in my shell, any suggestions to still use the equations? [12:53:11] hello.. I want to export a page with its full history (with special:export), is there a way to indicate the option in the url? [12:54:32] I tried ?curonly=0, but it does nothing [12:57:12] maybe I could use curl, but I am not an expert [12:57:27] can this be done with curl ? [12:59:31] piksi: impossible. it needs the latex package. [12:59:50] ThomasV: hm... it should work... but i can't get it to work either. odd. curl should work though [13:00:54] Duesentrieb: thanks.. but I do not know how to to with curl. I only have a vague intuition that curl should do it. btw, why does ?curonly=0 fail? [13:01:27] as i said, i don't know why it fails. actually, simply not provising curonly at all should also work. but it doesn't. [13:01:40] maybe the option is explicitely available only for POST requests. [13:01:52] using curl is not so difficult. you can learn it... [13:01:53] hmm [13:02:44] *ThomasV needs to install curl [13:04:56] 03(NEW) http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kahvihuone_( =?UTF-8?Q?k=C3=A4yt=C3=A4nn=C3=B6t?=) #Mielipidetiedustelu_uuden_nimiavaruuden_nimest.C3.A4 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11778 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (agony) [13:06:46] you can either use curl on bash, or you can install curl module for PHP and use it in PHP scripts [13:06:52] libcurl [13:07:09] 03(mod) http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kahvihuone_( =?UTF-8?Q?k=C3=A4yt=C3=A4nn=C3=B6t?=) #Mielipidetiedustelu_uuden_nimiavaruuden_nimest.C3.A4 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11778 (10agony) [13:07:56] eh.. "php5-curl - CURL module for php5" on debian based system [13:09:19] 03(mod) Finnish Wikipedia request new namespace - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11778 summary (10agony) [13:13:06] 03(NEW) $wgLogo is no longer customizable via LogalSettings - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11779 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (s.vanslyck) [13:13:16] haha [13:13:29] he needs a slap [13:15:28] 14(INVALID) $wgLogo is no longer customizable via LogalSettings - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11779 +comment (10minuteelectron) [13:17:58] I have a thumb question - is it possible to configure wiki that way that thumbs for pics uploaded by users are stored direktly in "thunbs"-directory without creating a subdirectory for every pic? [13:23:32] AlexejC70: yes i think, but only if all uploads are stored falt too. try $wgHashedUploadDirectory = false; [13:31:21] $wgHashedUploadDirectory is set to false and uncommented but the thumbs for the pics are still stored in subdirectorys equal to pic name. The problem is, that new created subdirecotries has 774-rights and I have to set it to 777 manually to see thumbs :-( [13:32:09] AlexejC70: you might be able to do something with sticky bits on the directory... but i don't know the details. [13:32:28] AlexejC70: or you could find out what sets the permissions, and change it :) [13:33:42] sure - but IMO its still very useless to have a directory for every single thumb [13:34:06] security [13:34:56] someone a idea what sets the permissions for new created foulders in "thumbs"? [13:35:29] mediawiki [13:36:17] sure - but where can i change it so the new created sub-folders for "thumbs" would be 777 instead of 774? [13:37:04] why would you want 777 on thumbs? [13:37:20] 03(mod) $wgLogo is no longer customizable via LogalSettings - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11779 (10s.vanslyck) [13:37:27] if the user running the webserver is in the group you dont need to set anything for the "rest of the world" [13:38:45] I thought that too ... but if the folder set to 774 no image is shown if i use [[bild:xxxxxx.jpg|thumb]] - it only goes right if the sub-folder is set to 777 [13:39:15] sounds like your permissions are all wonked out. [13:39:43] 777 basically says "i have no idea what's going on, so let everyone do everything" [13:39:54] jep - i know [13:40:34] AlexejC70: it's unlikely that you need them to be *writable* for everyone. [13:41:01] maybe this is like beetlejuice - if three different people say the same thing, it fixes itself... ;-) [13:41:12] 777 is much more fun for php or other executable code :) [13:41:49] datura, i agree. lets enable uucp too. [13:44:42] Anyone here anything lately from the FCKeditor guy? [13:47:00] 03(mod) $wgLogo is no longer customizable via LogalSettings - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11779 (10minuteelectron) [13:47:24] 03(mod) $wgLogo is no longer customizable via LogalSettings - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11779 (10minuteelectron) [13:47:47] Hello. Does anyone here have experience in solving the problem of customizing the logo in MW 1.11? $wgLogo = "$wgStylePath/common/images/mywikilogo.png"; doesn't work for me and neither does $wgLogo = "$wgScriptPath/skins/common/images/mywikilogo.png"; [13:48:04] *TimLaqua_away grins [13:48:26] Hi Steve_____! [13:49:02] Perhpas you could give us a link to your site and pastebin your LocalSettings.php file (with passwords etc removed) so we can help you further. [13:50:02] Steve_____: get the full URL of the image and set it as $wgLogo - problem solved. [13:50:07] Well, I could, but if you type in http://localhost I don't think you'll get there. At best all I can do is say that I installed 1.11 on top of WAMP5 and went fromthere. [13:50:27] Ok, what about pastebin-ing LocalSettings.php? [13:50:44] Sorry, Jack, problem not solved even by setting $wgLogo = "C:\wamp\www\mywikipedia\skins\common\images\mywikilogo.png"; [13:50:54] Well, obviously that wouldn't work. [13:51:01] ... [13:51:05] Since C:\ is not accessible from your website. [13:51:13] file://C:\ is however. [13:51:16] This is an interanet. [13:51:16] why would you need a different logo on an offline wiki? just replace the wiki.png [13:51:23] It worked fine with MW 1.5 [13:51:32] Steve_____: pastebin? [13:52:01] It isn't a question of need it's a question of of why the instructions don't work. [13:52:29] I can paste or send localsettings if anyone wants to look at it. [13:52:40] paste, please. [13:52:50] If the instructions don't work go fix them, if you are having a problem and refuse to pastebin your LocalSetttings.php file so we can help you further. [13:53:03] Currently, all the tested lines are commented out, note. [13:53:05] s/and refuse// [13:53:10] # This file was automatically generated by the MediaWiki installer. [13:53:13] # If you make manual changes, please keep track in case you need to [13:53:15] # recreate them later. [13:53:16] o crap. [13:53:16] # [13:53:18] # See includes/DefaultSettings.php for all configurable settings [13:53:19] # and their default values, but don't forget to make changes in _this_ [13:53:21] # file, not there. [13:53:22] # If you customize your file layout, set $IP to the directory that contains [13:53:24] # the other MediaWiki files. It will be used as a base to locate files. [13:53:26] if( defined( 'MW_INSTALL_PATH' ) ) { [13:53:27] $IP = MW_INSTALL_PATH; [13:53:29] } else { [13:53:30] $IP = dirname( __FILE__ ); [13:53:32] } [13:53:33] $path = array( $IP, "$IP/includes", "$IP/languages" ); [13:53:35] set_include_path( implode( PATH_SEPARATOR, $path ) . PATH_SEPARATOR . get_include_path() ); [13:53:36] require_once( "$IP/includes/DefaultSettings.php" ); [13:53:38] # If PHP's memory limit is very low, some operations may fail. [13:53:38] ... [13:53:39] ini_set( 'memory_limit', '20M' ); [13:53:41] if ( $wgCommandLineMode ) { [13:53:42] What don't you understand about __PASTEBIN__? [13:53:43] if ( isset( $_SERVER ) && array_key_exists( 'REQUEST_METHOD', $_SERVER ) ) { [13:53:44] :P [13:53:44] use the fscking pastey [13:53:45] die( "This script must be run from the command line\n" ); [13:53:45] I blame this on minute-ssh [13:53:47] } [13:53:49] } [13:53:51] ## Uncomment this to disable output compression [13:53:53] # $wgDisableOutputCompression = true; [13:53:55] $wgSitename = "Localpedia"; [13:53:56] I blame stupid intranets [13:53:57] # Verified path to customized logo file: C:\wamp\www\mywikipedia\skins\common\images\mywikilogo.png [13:53:59] # Recommended code per documentation: Does not work [13:54:01] $wgLogo = "$wgStylePath/common/images/mywikilogo.png"; [13:54:01] !pastebin | Steve_____ [13:54:01] Steve_____ : Please do not paste more than 2-3 lines of text into the channel as it disrupts the flow of conversation. Instead please use a pastebin such as and post a link to your paste in the channel. [13:54:02] damn wire. [13:54:03] # Recommended code per http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11553: Does not work [13:54:05] # $wgLogo = "$wgScriptPath/skins/common/images/mywikilogo.png"; [13:54:07] omg [13:54:07] # Removing $wgLogo line completely: Does work if new logo is renamed to wiki.png [13:54:09] ## The URL base path to the directory containing the wiki; [13:54:10] we need more ops [13:54:11] ## defaults for all runtime URL paths are based off of this. [13:54:13] $wgScriptPath = "/mywikipedia"; [13:54:15] $wgScriptExtension = ".php"; [13:54:17] ## For more information on customizing the URLs please see: [13:54:18] /kick Steve_____ [13:54:19] ## http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [13:54:21] $wgEnableEmail = true; [13:54:23] $wgEnableUserEmail = false; [13:54:25] $wgEmergencyContact = "s.vanslyck@spamcop.net"; [13:54:27] $wgPasswordSender = "s.vanslyck@spamcop.net"; [13:54:27] ... [13:54:28] where's kate when you need her? [13:54:29] ## For a detailed description of the following switches see [13:54:31] ## http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Email_notification [13:54:33] ## and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Email_notification [13:54:35] ## There are many more options for fine tuning available see [13:54:35] flyingparchment: :) [13:54:37] ## /includes/DefaultSettings.php [13:54:39] ## UPO means: this is also a user preference option [13:54:39] flyingparchment: ping [13:54:41] $wgEnotifUserTalk = true; # UPO [13:54:43] $wgEnotifWatchlist = true; # UPO [13:54:45] $wgEmailAuthentication = true; [13:54:47] $wgDBtype = "mysql"; [13:54:49] $wgDBserver = "localhost"; [13:54:51] $wgDBname = "wikidb"; [13:54:53] $wgDBuser = "root"; [13:54:55] $wgDBpassword = "18riverstyxbz"; [13:54:57] # MySQL specific settings [13:54:59] $wgDBprefix = ""; [13:54:59] haha, password [13:55:01] # MySQL table options to use during installation or update [13:55:02] lol [13:55:03] $wgDBTableOptions = "TYPE=InnoDB"; [13:55:05] # Experimental charset support for MySQL 4.1/5.0. [13:55:07] $wgDBmysql5 = false; [13:55:09] # Postgres specific settings [13:55:11] $wgDBport = "5432"; [13:55:13] $wgDBmwschema = "mediawiki"; [13:55:15] $wgDBts2schema = "public"; [13:55:17] ## Shared memory settings [13:55:19] $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_NONE; [13:55:21] $wgMemCachedServers = array(); [13:55:23] ## To enable image uploads, make sure the 'images' directory [13:55:23] JeLuF: ping [13:55:25] ## is writable, then set this to true: [13:55:27] $wgEnableUploads = false; [13:55:29] # $wgUseImageMagick = true; [13:55:31] # $wgImageMagickConvertCommand = "/usr/bin/convert"; [13:55:33] ## If you want to use image uploads under safe mode, [13:55:35] ## create the directories images/archive, images/thumb and [13:55:37] ## images/temp, and make them all writable. Then uncomment [13:55:39] ## this, if it's not already uncommented: [13:55:41] # $wgHashedUploadDirectory = false; [13:55:43] ## If you have the appropriate support software installed [13:55:45] ## you can enable inline LaTeX equations: [13:55:47] $wgUseTeX = false; [13:55:49] $wgLocalInterwiki = $wgSitename; [13:55:51] $wgLanguageCode = "en"; [13:55:56] phew! [13:56:02] indeed [13:56:05] TimLaqua_away: :| [13:56:13] ;-) you did it. [13:56:26] !pastebin | Steve_____ [13:56:26] Steve_____ : Please do not paste more than 2-3 lines of text into the channel as it disrupts the flow of conversation. Instead please use a pastebin such as and post a link to your paste in the channel. [13:56:27] wtf is so hard to understand in "USE PASTEBIN"? IMO, that's such a simple thing... :) [13:57:22] 03(mod) New mailing list for eu.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11774 +comment (10cbrown1023) [13:57:41] I AM TRYING. A little patience with the noobs please. I am not trying to irritate people! [13:58:00] THERE IS NO NEED TO USE CAPITAL LETTERS. [13:58:10] basically crapflooding entire channel is, well, fucking annoying :) [13:58:23] reading the topic hasn't killed anyone yet, from what I've heard [13:58:39] i'm quite sure he won't do it again. [14:00:38] OK - it is at http://mediawiki.pastey.net/75917 [14:02:45] I understand that this line in defaultsettings may be part of the problem: $wgLogo = false; /// defaults to "{$wgStylePath}/common/images/wiki.png" [14:02:58] Firstly, move the block of code to the bottom. [14:03:12] Secondly use $wgScriptPath instead of $wgStylePath. [14:03:31] Then it will work, if you looked you would see $wgScript Path isn't set till after your code. [14:04:02] OK, ssh, thank you, let me try that. Where would one "look" to see that script path isn't set till after one's code? [14:04:28] look a few lines below your code block and you will see $wgScripPath = [14:04:38] which is after your $wgLogo= [14:05:13] Yes, I did notice that. And I wondered about that as well, but left it since in 1.5.8 the relative locations had been the same. Let me test..... [14:06:28] OK, we're good. thank you [14:06:36] You're welcome. [14:06:42] YAY! [14:07:09] Now maybe if he had of come here first those precious kilobytes of space on bugzilla wouldn't have been wasted. [14:07:16] :| [14:11:45] Hey guys, I have another question. [14:11:45] I needed a custom wikiskin. [14:11:45] So I copied all files of the monobook skin, renamed and activated them. [14:11:45] The skin got implemented and works, but... All the links, which had a first letter in uppercase now are written completely in lowercase [14:11:57] Anyone knows how this could have happened? [14:15:48] 03(mod) $wgLogo is no longer customizable via LogalSettings - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11779 (10s.vanslyck) [14:17:59] 03(NEW) How to customize the logo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11780 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Documentation; (s.vanslyck) [14:21:03] 03(mod) New mailing list for eu.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11774 (10arkaitz) [14:23:48] hello [14:24:37] i search a tips for url of my wiki [14:25:01] for replace /index.php?title=Accueil to /accueil [14:26:48] My wiki do it just after the install [14:27:08] erf [14:27:33] What is your version ? The last one ? [14:27:55] 1.11.0 [14:28:32] Hum... Maybe an install options, I'm a new user, I can't help you much [14:28:47] oki [14:30:12] But when article are empty, the file name is http://wiki.touch-serv.net/index.php?title=Test [14:30:25] But when article are empty, the file name is index.php?title=Test&action=edit [14:30:46] re06011988, t'es Franais ? [14:30:52] oui [14:30:54] lol [14:30:58] Comme moi [14:31:01] mdr [14:31:11] en plus mon anglais est a chier :D [14:31:12] Bah teste de crer une page d'accueil [14:31:15] Bah pareil :p [14:31:27] URL de ton Wiki ? [14:31:50] J'vais voir, on sait jamais, mais j'ai commenc MediaWiki ya 3-4 jours [14:31:50] wiki.ttycoonfr.org [14:31:52] How do I make a generic link to "my contributions" so that whoever clicks it goes to THEIR contributions? [14:32:02] Not to Ed Poor's contribs unless they are me! [14:32:22] re06011988, ton lien marche pas :p [14:32:49] http://wiki.ttycoonfr.org [14:33:00] Serveur introuvable [14:33:01] Firefox ne peut trouver le serveur l'adresse wiki.ttycoonfr.org. [14:33:45] oui [14:33:59] http://wiki.ttycoonfr.org/index.php?title=Accueil [14:34:10] Euh pareil oo [14:34:55] atta [14:35:07] Any developers online? [14:35:13] Special:Contributions/Admin [14:35:25] I think Special:Contributions/[[User]] [14:35:29] Maybe :p [14:36:41] I was looking for something generic [14:37:22] I'm a newbie, this is just a suggest ^^ [14:37:28] c chelou moi j'y accede a mon wiki [14:37:36] Euh, bah pas moi [14:37:40] tu vois le site www.ttycoonfr.org [14:37:46] Oui oui [14:37:54] Nikel et le lien en bas, me mets serveur introuvable [14:37:55] Is there a way to get the current user's name, like a Template? [14:38:04] http://wiki.ttycoonfr.org/ << Work for someone ? [14:42:09] Something like {{CURRENTUSER}} [14:42:14] Will that work? [14:42:19] je ne pige po k sa plante [14:42:36] Ca ne marche pas mme chez des potes [14:43:02] Uncle Ed, I don't know, try a lot of things :p [14:43:16] Tu n'as pas allow from ton IP/localhost seulement ? [14:43:38] non [14:43:49] je look mon /etc/host justement [14:44:08] T'es en local, ou sur un ddi ? [14:44:14] dedier [14:44:15] what language is this channel again? [14:44:20] English [14:44:45] But we don't speak a Good English, it's more easy to help in our language :) [14:44:54] Choppe moi en PV [14:49:02] Hy guys, I have another question. [14:49:02] I needed a custom wikiskin. [14:49:02] So I copied all files of the monobook skin, renamed and activated them. [14:49:02] The skin got implemented and works, but... All the links, which had a first letter in uppercase now are written completely in lowercase [14:49:02] Anyone knows how this could have happened? [15:03:38] ... noone? [15:54:37] hmmm [15:55:02] [27-Oct-2007 18:53:07] PHP Strict Standards: Non-static method Article::getSection() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /.../extensions/ConfirmEdit/ConfirmEdit.php on line 711 [16:12:05] 03brion * r26979 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialWhatlinkshere.php: [16:12:05] * Don't put _ into the title in the form [16:12:05] * Skip some useless quotes [16:32:26] 03(NEW) csWikiquote talk namespace names setup - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11781 minor; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (danny_b) [16:34:03] 03brion * r26980 10/trunk/phase3/ (65 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) [16:34:03] * Removed "Clear" link in watchlist editor tools, as people were afraid to [16:34:03] click it. Existing clear links will fall back to the raw editor, which is [16:34:03] very easy to clear your watchlist with. [16:34:03] Watchlist editor: [16:34:04] removing the 'clear' link [16:34:06] passing through to 'raw' edit mode [16:34:56] Hello [16:35:55] Is there any way to store page variable from a tag extension so that skin can access it ? [16:37:57] yay! cool idea to remove the "clear" link! [16:43:19] 03nikerabbit * r26981 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHy.php: * Updates to hy [16:49:29] oh FFS [16:53:02] 03(mod) How to customize the logo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11780 +comment (10minuteelectron) [16:53:28] :) [16:53:56] 03(mod) Incorrect or missing documentation regarding logo customization - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11780 summary (10minuteelectron) [16:53:59] *g* [16:54:24] wtf is with the excess bugs related to $wgLogo? it's *too* simple, even...can't be that hard to point it to the right place... [16:55:22] It should be forced to set it to an upload file, that way *noone* can make an error in it. [16:55:38] yeah [16:56:04] But then there is a problem of uploaded files being disabled. [17:01:15] 06(LATER) csWikiquote talk namespace names setup - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11781 +comment (10danny_b) [17:09:02] 03nikerabbit * r26982 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): * kw (new), el [17:29:41] 03(NEW) ":" indent markup fails if paragraph is to the right of an image - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11782 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (FT2.wiki) [17:30:36] 03(mod) ":" indent markup fails if paragraph is to the right of an image - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11782 +comment (10FT2.wiki) [17:43:19] 03(NEW) Update to Georgian messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11783 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (malafaya) [17:59:29] Hi, I want to link a wikipage in default namespace named foo to the page Category:foo by using #redirect. [17:59:30] Is there a way to do this without page foo getting categorized as Category:foo ? [17:59:40] Nikerabbit: moo? [18:00:07] The normal [[:Category:foo]] doesn't work for me since it breaks the redirect command [18:46:11] Nikerabbit: any way to get rid of the image related E_STRICT notices [18:46:13] ? [18:55:44] 03(mod) Incorrect or missing documentation regarding logo customization - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11780 (10s.vanslyck) [19:05:54] 03aaron * r26983 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.php FlaggedRevsPage.php): *Random OOP cleanup [19:09:53] G_SabinoMullane? [19:23:33] Hi, I want to link a wikipage in default namespace named foo to the page Category:foo by using #redirect. [19:23:33] Is there a way to do this without page foo getting categorized as Category:foo ? [19:23:33] the normal [[:Category:foo]] doesn't work for me since it breaks the redirect command [19:26:35] is it possible to cut off the input between tag-extension, which are not matched instead of just not display them, so i have got no gaps in the middle of an article? [19:29:48] 03(mod) New mailing list for eu.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11774 (10cbrown1023) [19:33:21] 03(mod) Deletion of Siberian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11680 (10edwardspec) [19:49:39] Does anyone know why the sortable table at can't sort by date? [19:57:35] Pathoschild: maybe it tries a numeric sort, and fails? [19:58:46] Reading [[m:Help:Sorting]], it seems that it doesn't recognize yyyy-mm-dd dates; I'll try switching to one of the recognized formats. [20:01:54] It works with dd-mmm-yyyy [20:04:03] bah, that sucks. [20:04:08] Yep. [20:04:09] yyyy-mm-dd is much nicer. [20:04:14] *Pathoschild agrees. [20:04:16] file a bug :) [20:04:30] *Pathoschild does so. :) [20:12:33] 03(NEW) Sortable tables don't recognize yyyy-mm-dd date format - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11784 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (pathoschild) [20:14:50] Am I doing this right? [20:14:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=search&srsearch=wikipedia&srlimit=10 [20:14:55] It doesn't return any results! [20:26:41] 03(NEW) Page title doesn't saved in parser cache - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11785 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (alexey.wmd) [20:26:44] 03(mod) autoConvert() should use StubObject::isRealObject() instead of isset() in LanguageConverter.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11751 (10alexey.wmd) [20:27:59] 03(mod) Page title doesn't saved in parser cache - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11785 15enhancement->normal (10alexey.wmd) [20:30:04] hi [20:30:20] does [[Special:Import]] work at all? [20:30:34] White_Cat, nobody here helps people. :) [20:30:37] Majorly is trying to import a page from en.wiki to meta.wiki [20:30:51] but je says he cant open the file [20:34:41] White_Cat: it can happens if there is too much info (hign number of revision or text too big) [20:34:50] *high [20:34:54] I see [20:36:11] it worked [20:36:19] but it said it didn't [20:45:53] 03(NEW) Add "Portal" and "Dyskusja portalu" namespaces to Polish Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11786 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (joystick.pl) [20:53:21] 03(mod) Add "Portal" and "Dyskusja portalu" namespaces to Polish Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11786 (10joystick.pl) [20:58:13] 03(NEW) correcting bog message and updating french and english translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11787 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (bertrand.grondin) [21:06:56] 14(DUP) Uploading files named with no-alphabet language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11758 +comment (10brion) [21:06:57] 03(mod) Can't upload file with non-ASCII name (eg cyrillic) on Windows host - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1780 +comment (10brion) [21:09:38] nite all... [21:10:57] 14(DUP) Protecting a page hides recent changes to it from watchlists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11750 +comment (10brion) [21:11:00] 03(mod) Logs about watched pages should appear in the watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5546 +comment (10brion) [21:15:05] 14(INVALID) Log parameter during search does not show up - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11714 (10brion) [21:16:10] 03(WONTFIX) Ability to delete images temporarily - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11709 (10brion) [21:20:01] 14(INVALID) Contents disappear if two tags inside a table - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 +comment (10brion) [21:20:16] 03(WONTFIX) Current caching of rendered math formulas allows a tiny but non-zero chance of hash collisions resulting in a display of wrong formulas - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11702 (10brion) [21:34:17] 03brion * r26984 10/trunk/phase3/ (20 files in 2 dirs): [21:34:17] * (bug 11722) Fix inconsistent case in unprotect tabs [21:34:17] A few languages had both tabs lowercase; leaving those. [21:34:25] 03(FIXED) "Unprotect" tab not capitalized - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11722 +comment (10brion) [21:35:41] do i need to talk in English or is Dutch ok too? [21:36:21] I need some help with installing MediaWiki, but i just can't access the config/index.php file :( [21:40:53] Is there anyone who can help me with installing MediaWiki? I can't access /config/index.php (it keeps redirecting me to my cpanel) [21:46:42] Maarten_K: rename config to something else [21:46:55] the folder? [21:47:04] yes [21:47:05] i'\ll give it a try [21:47:18] some hosts have /config/ hardwired to cpanel. so you have to use something else for mediawiki [21:47:41] it still redirects me, let me try the newly named folder [21:47:49] how can I make my wiki so that you have to register to be able to edit because I'm getting spammers [21:48:00] it works! [21:48:05] Duesentrieb thx! [21:48:45] anyone please ? :( [21:49:37] !spam | BlaenkDenum [21:49:37] BlaenkDenum : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Spam [21:49:39] i am not sure, but I do know a book where it should be descibed, let me fix the title [21:49:42] !access | BlaenkDenum [21:49:42] BlaenkDenum : For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [21:49:56] Packt.Publishing.MediaWiki.Administrators.Tutorial.Guide [21:49:56] thanks Duesentrieb [21:50:50] BlaenkDenum: actually, using SPamBlacklist together with ConfirmEdit should get rid of most spam without limiting access [21:51:04] Duesentrieb: okay where can I find those two, or are they in the links you gave me? [21:52:18] they should be linked there [21:52:23] okay thanks [21:52:32] both are extensions maintained in the official svn repository [21:52:53] only confirm edit is, oh okay thanks where can I find the official repos [21:52:56] BlaenkDenum: unofficial bundles are here: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/repository/extensions/ [21:53:03] official repos: [21:53:05] !svn [21:53:05] Subversion is a version control software that allows users to download the very latest version of a branch without having to wait for someone to get around to packaging it. Advantages to using Subversion include the latest version, vastly simplified updating, the ability to roll back an upgrade, the ability to create and submit patches. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subversion for more information. [21:53:08] alright great thanks [21:53:14] I'll just use the bundles [21:53:28] @search download [21:53:28] Results: [download, import, install, php4, subversion] [21:53:36] @search bundles [21:53:36] Results: [] [21:54:12] !bundles is unofficial bundles of extensions are at . Note that these are random snapshots and may contain a completely broken version of the extension. [21:54:12] Successfully added keyword: bundles [21:55:44] Duesentrieb: if they are random how do I know that getting it from the repos itself wont be the same [21:55:49] is there anywhere I can get stable versions? [21:58:11] BlaenkDenum: correct, getting it from the repos is the same. there are release snapshots of the extensions, made when mediawiki is released. however, i doubt the extensions are reviewed before that snapshot - so it's basically just as random :) [21:58:18] simple hope for the best, i guess. [21:58:30] haha, okay :S [22:03:41] hey Duesentrieb, http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SpamBlacklist/SpamBlacklist.i18n.php contains asian characters right? or is it just my browser [22:04:39] BlaenkDenum: it contains chinese, arabic, etc, yes. why? [22:04:45] FlaggedRevsPage.ar.i18n.php FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.it.php FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.zh-cn.php Makevalidate.i18n.ar.php [22:04:53] BlaenkDenum: it's the internationalization file... [22:04:53] oh no just wondering hahaha, thought it was just my browser not working [22:04:53] wtf is the point of that? [22:05:25] Nikerabbit: the point is not loading 100 messages in 100 languages, if you only need one. [22:05:33] one language, that is. [22:06:12] Nikerabbit: i have been doing one-file-per-language for all my extensions - it seems cleaner, saves time and memory, and brion said he likes the idea :P [22:06:49] Duesentrieb: look at the filenames [22:07:20] Nikerabbit: oh. the first seems confuddeled. [22:07:39] sorry for going off into the wrong direction :) [22:07:50] AaronSchulz: could use something standard format? [22:08:20] it's PITA to write special handling for yet another quite the same but not totally extension i18n system [22:08:22] i have been using CategoryTree.i18n.ar.php etc [22:08:54] it's not about the filename [22:09:09] the filecontents have $array['LANGUAGE_CODE'] => array [22:09:19] ghn. [22:09:26] other multiple files system just have $array => array [22:09:32] yes. [22:09:50] i guess i'll shut up and let you yell at Aron in peace :) [22:09:53] *Nikerabbit disabled it from betawiki from the time being :< [22:10:04] Duesentrieb: I don't want to yell [22:10:17] I want to be polite, but I'm extremly poor at it [22:36:49] 03aaron * r26985 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/Language/ (FlaggedRevsPage.ar.i18n.php FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.ar.php): *Typo [22:39:03] Hello. I am installing my first extension (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DirectoryManager) and the install seemed to work, but when I go to http://localhost/mywikipedia/index.php/Directory I see the words "Directory Listing" but nothing else. Using 1.11. Any thoughts? Clueless here. [22:43:46] Steve__: the url looks like it points to a normal page. what's the extension supposed to do? [22:44:21] one sec... [22:44:35] "Provides a namespace 'Directory' for browsing the filesystem of a MediaWiki installation." [22:44:45] That was from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DirectoryManager [22:45:31] It requires stub manager which I installed and says it "Integrates with Extension:FileManager," which I also installed. [22:45:40] o_O [22:45:40] 03rainman * r26986 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (21 files in 7 dirs): [22:45:40] * Wildcard queries, can now do both suffix and prefix queries, and [22:45:40] works over split indexes [22:45:40] * TokenizerOptions - a bag of options for the tokenizer, fixes a bug [22:45:40] with aggregate fields and token gaps [22:45:41] * (Lucene - fixed weight for DisjunctMaxQuery, was storing the [22:45:43] non-serializable searcher) [22:45:44] But I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do to use the extn. [22:45:48] that sounds odd. and dangerous. [22:46:11] Well, it's only on my own internal computer, not exposed to the net. [22:47:33] Steve__: well... i can only guess how it's supposed to work. try for example the wiki page called Directory:includes [22:48:01] Nuthin. [22:48:07] Maybe its a rights issue? [22:48:50] Do you think maybe I have to restart services? [22:48:53] Steve__: maybe it's a "broken extension" issue? [22:49:00] no, restarting is pointless [22:49:04] hello [22:49:07] php "restarts" for every request [22:49:11] IC [22:49:41] Steve__: if it doesn't say how to use it, i can't guess :P [22:49:59] OK. Well, the ext is "for" 1.10, so maybe since I'm using 1.11 that could "partially explain it" as Mr. Darling said to Sheriff Taylor. [22:51:22] don't think it should make a difference. [22:51:28] perhaps ask the extension's author [22:52:01] if you have an account on mediawiki.org, you can directly wikimail him [22:53:20] Would I have to download the ExtensionFunctions.php file and copy it to the extensions directory? This was recommended for another extension. I have an acct on mediawiki - I'll check out emailing. [22:53:49] no [22:53:55] some extensions need that, most don't [22:54:08] if you try to use an extension that needs if, but you don'Ät have it, your wiki will break. [22:54:11] nothing will work. [22:54:31] if it works "a little", then the extension is broken, or you are not using it right [22:55:59] IC. [22:56:07] this sounds stupid but: is there any way to extract the mediawiki tarball via ftp?... or do i have to extract on my computer then upload it [22:56:14] OK. I think you're right. [22:56:24] Thanks. Out. [22:57:36] mxmm: depends on the ftp server. some allow you to run remote commands, especially for unpacking stuff. but "modern" (read:gui) clients usually don't support that [22:58:18] mxmm: however - if you have shell access, it's simple. and you should have shell access if you want to do anything but basic operation [22:58:28] mxmm: even creating a backup is going to be painfull without it [22:58:33] @search shell [22:58:33] Results: [] [23:01:14] !shell is Shell access (that is, SSH access, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH) is highly recommended if you want to run MediaWiki. You can install without it, and basic operation will work, but even creating backups or upgrading will be painfull without it. Some more involved maintenance tasks may even be impossible. MediaWiki is not designed for minimal environments. [23:01:14] Successfully added keyword: shell [23:01:18] should i create a separate mysql database for mediawiki? [23:02:08] recommended, yes [23:08:51] 03david * r26987 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (LqtBaseView.php LqtPages.php): [23:08:51] Editing old revisions in page-level history. The way this is implemented is [23:08:51] screwy, so it should be tested before being used on real data. Also, some [23:08:51] features such as the back and forward links in the subtitle do not work. [23:11:42] i installed the wiki, but once i moved localsettings.php the main page was blank... [23:15:18] can anyone help me with my problem ^^^^^^^^ [23:18:42] 03(mod) Ability to delete images temporarily - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11709 (10wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [23:24:21] @search error [23:24:21] Results: [invalidupload] [23:24:32] @reporting [23:24:35] Hello [23:24:38] @search reporting [23:24:38] Results: [faq] [23:24:42] hm. [23:26:00] anywhere Know how no enlable the interwikis? [23:26:55] ganon: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Guide_for_system_administrators_for_setting_up_interwiki_linking [23:27:10] @search interwiki [23:27:10] Results: [import, importsources, interwiki] [23:27:21] !interwiki [23:27:21] For more information regarding interwiki links, see . [23:27:26] hm... :) [23:27:29] Pathoschild: Thank you [23:27:39] ganon: Welcome. [23:27:53] Duesentrieb: Maybe expand that, or point it to the disambiguation page ? [23:27:56] i installed a wiki on godaddy but once i moved localsettings.php the mainpage became blank [23:30:58] !errors is To enable on-screen reporting for PHP errors, set error_reporting(E_ALL); and ini_set("display_errors", 1); Blank pages indicate fatal PHP errors, those are usually logged to Apache's error log - also check the error_log setting in php.ini (or use phpinfo). For more details in wiki error reports, set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; and $wgShowSQLErrors = true; For full debug output, set $wgDebugLogFile to some path you like. Reme [23:30:58] Successfully added keyword: errors [23:30:58] mber to disable error reporting when you are done. [23:31:03] damn, too long. [23:31:10] !errors del [23:31:10] Successfully removed keyword: errors [23:32:08] !errors is To see PHP errors, set error_reporting(E_ALL); and ini_set("display_errors", 1); Fatal PHP errors usually go to Apache's error log - also check the error_log setting in php.ini (or use phpinfo). For more details in wiki error reports, set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; and $wgShowSQLErrors = true; For full debug output, set $wgDebugLogFile to some path you like. [23:32:08] Successfully added keyword: errors [23:32:57] @trusted [23:32:57] [wikipedia/AmiDaniel, wikimedia/Eagle-101, silentflame/member/pdpc.base.minuteelectron, wikipedia/Simetrical, wikipedia/AzaToth, cpe-69-201-152-135.nyc.res.rr.com, wikimedia/Danny-B., cc1081997-b.harli1.fr.home.nl, wikipedia/duesentrieb, clematis.knams.wikimedia.org, wikipedia/MZMcBride, c-67-171-249-42.hsd1.wa.comcast.net, fuchsia.knams.wikimedia.org, 222-153-0-95.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] [23:33:19] Duesentrieb: use #mwbot for testing ;-) [23:33:31] Danny_B: last i tried it didn't support that [23:33:37] and i'm not testing, i'm feeding :) [23:34:04] s/testing/playing with it including feeding it/ ;-) [23:34:13] Danny_B: it doesn't work. [23:34:20] complain to amidaniel :) [23:34:37] WFM ;-) [23:34:43] let's meet there [23:35:09] hm? [23:35:17] !interwiki del [23:35:17] Successfully removed keyword: interwiki [23:35:22] !interwiki is http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Interwiki [23:35:22] Successfully added keyword: interwiki [23:35:38] @trust pathos@wikimedia/Pathoschild [23:35:38] Added pathos@wikimedia/Pathoschild to trusted hostnames list. [23:35:54] damn [23:36:00] @trust wikimedia/Pathoschild [23:36:00] Added wikimedia/Pathoschild to trusted hostnames list. [23:36:08] @untrust pathos@wikimedia/Pathoschild [23:36:08] Removed pathos@wikimedia/Pathoschild from trusted hostnames list. [23:36:09] Duesentrieb: /join #mwbot please [23:36:51] Thank you. :) [23:38:40] anywhere Know how no enlable the interwikis to other languages but not the rest of interwikis, for exemple [[w:en:A]] have to enlable, but [[GU:A]] don't have to enlable [23:39:01] ganon: manipulate the database [23:39:52] ok, thanks [23:39:54] ;) [23:51:59] 03(NEW) Enable DynamicPageList extension for Polish Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11788 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (joystick.pl) [23:58:03] 03(mod) Enable DynamicPageList extension for Polish Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11788 (10joystick.pl)