--- Log opened Fri Oct 02 00:00:13 2009
00:00 < wikibugs> (mod) Yahoo 'temporarily' blocking lists.wikimedia.org emails - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20507 (Platonides)
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00:04 < wikibugs> (mod) Yahoo 'temporarily' blocking lists.wikimedia.org emails - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20507 (rjd0060.wiki)
00:05 < Rjd0060> Platonides: pretend that response makes sense xD
00:05 < Rjd0060> should have re-read it before saving
00:05 < Rjd0060> plus, I didn't realize you were here.
00:06 < CIA-12> siebrand * r57259 /trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/language/FlaggedRevs.i18n.php: Fix incorrect fix in r57258. Just rebuilt the whole file.
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00:08 < Platonides> well, I find it to make sense :)
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00:09 < Platonides> you probably have the list of addresses scattered on the admin inbox, though
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00:13 < exercicios> I deleted all languages but two, does that cause any trouble in installing mediawiki?
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00:18 < ^demon> exercicios: You just won't be able to use any of them, obviously.
00:19 < Splarka> 'deleted'? from languages/Names.php or languages/messages/ ? (or both)
00:19 < exercicios> messages
00:19 < Splarka> might should probably comment them out from Names
00:20 < exercicios> i think it's the host... but there is no error, I don't know what is wrong
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00:23 < ^demon> Splarka: I don't think you need to touch Names
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00:29 < exercicios> CGI disabled, does that prevent mediawiki from running?
00:30 < Skizzerz> it shouldn't
00:30 < Skizzerz> unless PHP is configured to run as a CGI module
00:31 < exercicios> but mediawiki does install
00:31 < Splarka> ^demon: won't they stay in preferences as options until ya do?
00:31 < Skizzerz> then there isn't an issue
00:31 < Skizzerz> mediawiki doesn't use CGI for anything
00:31 < ^demon> Splarka: I thought the supported langs list is based on the files in /messages and Names was just the name of them.
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00:32 < Skizzerz> exercicios: find a different host
00:32 < Skizzerz> I can tell you right now that the forced ad is going to mess up your site layout
00:32 < Skizzerz> even if you do manage to get it working
00:32 < Splarka> ^demon: I know at least interlang links are sussed from Names.php (and the global that lets you append more)
00:32 < Skizzerz> the tabs will appear detached from the rest of the skin, and it'll look really ugly
00:32 < Splarka> er, that is, if you define an interwiki that matches a language name prefix, it is automatically an interlang
00:33 < ^demon> Right.
00:33 < exercicios> the host is ads free
00:33 < exercicios> I can't view the wiki, just the "welcome to getgb" message
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00:34 < ^demon> exercicios: Well MW definitely isn't doing that.
00:37 < CIA-12> aaron * r57260 /trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: Added comment
00:37 < CIA-12> aaron * r57261 /trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: bug 20855: noneditor self-reverts can be autoreviewed when appropriate
00:38 < wikibugs> (FIXED) A noneditor reverting his own edit should cause an automatic flag - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20855 +comment (JSchulz_4587)
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00:46 * mikeschuld just got his buy sell back from the seller!
00:46 < mikeschuld> w00t!!
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00:50 * werdna giggles, "He insists on treating the anus as some kind of human USB port"
00:51 < ^demon> wtf?
00:51 < werdna> quote from TV :P
00:51 < GreenReaper> Reminds me of http://www.otonashi.net/ (skip intro)
00:51 < ^demon> oh ok
00:51 < apergos> eeewww
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00:52 < werdna> freaky
00:52 < GreenReaper> Hmm. Honestly, they need to upgrade their site and get away from Flash, their art is better than that displayed there.
00:52 < p858snake|sleep> wtf would be mentioning that at 9 in the morning.....
00:58 < ^demon> Heh, I love CSI Miami. It's so needlessly dramatic.
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01:08 < p858snake|sleep> ^demon: but in CSI:NY you get a vb.net gui to track a ip address
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01:10 < ^demon> p858snake: In CSI Miami you get ridiculous computers that don't exist :p
01:11 < CIA-12> brion * r57262 /branches/wmf-deployment-2009-10-01/extensions/ (169 files in 61 dirs): merge updates to most extensions...
01:13 < CIA-12> brion * r57263 /branches/wmf-deployment-2009-10-01/extensions/ReaderFeedback/: ReaderFeedback's whinging on merge; replacing it from trunk
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01:14 < CIA-12> brion * r57264 /branches/wmf-deployment-2009-10-01/extensions/ReaderFeedback/: copy current ReaderFeedback from trunk @57263
01:15 < brion> mdale1: is there anything else we need to do to get basic upload api working?
01:17 < Betacommand> I know there was a bug on this, but categories on en.wp give the wrong number of pages in the category
01:17 < CIA-12> brion * r57265 /branches/wmf-deployment-2009-10-01/extensions/Configure/: drop Configure; we're not currently using this iteration of the ext
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01:18 < exercicios> Warning: ini_set() has been disabled for security reasons is this a bad restriction?
01:19 < ^demon> exercicios: It's kind of annoying. MW uses ini_set() in several places.
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01:28 < mdale1> brion: whats broken with the upload api?
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01:29 < brion> mdale: dunno, is anything? :D
01:29 < CIA-12> brion * r57266 /trunk/extensions/PdfHandler/PdfHandler.image.php:
01:29 < CIA-12> Cleanup for r56413 - PDF text extraction support:
01:29 < CIA-12> * use UtfNormal::cleanUp() for UTF-8 and control char cleanup instead of iconv() and a manual strip
01:29 < CIA-12> * remove the htmlspecialchars() which looks like it shouldn't be here; this is for internal data storage not HTML output
01:29 < brion> i haven't actually checked, i've just had people ask me if we can turn it on
01:29 < brion> it may well be that it's working just fine and people haven't noticed ;)
01:30 < mdale> the module shows up here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php
01:30 < brion> that's a good start :D
01:30 < brion> can we test it to confirm all is well?
01:30 < mdale> was about to review more firefogg stuff and try and get a js2 stuff remote gadget up and running.
01:31 < brion> oooh
01:31 < mdale> ...sure will test firefogg shortly...
01:31 < brion> yay
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01:35 < hintswen__> and then there were 3
01:35 < CIA-12> brion * r57267 /branches/wmf-deployment-2009-10-01/extensions/PdfHandler/ (5 files): update PdfHandler from trunk
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01:44 < wikibugs> (mod) urls of the form wiki/article?curid=something should be indexable by robots on wikinews - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20818 (wiki)
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01:53 < wikibugs> (NEW) Pre-subscribed members of wiki and list of volontary subscribed persons accessible only volontary subscribed persons - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20937 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (nicolas.brouard)
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01:55 < ^demon> F'ing android.
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02:06 < CIA-12> dale * r57268 /trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (NonFreeVideoHandler.php WahJobManager.php WikiAtHome.php): * minor updates to ogg derivative system ( fixed call to participation append )
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02:35 < CIA-12> dale * r57269 /trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libAddMedia/mvFirefogg.js: * fixed bug in firefogg for passthough mode in upload form
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03:32 < Emufarmers> http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Project:Support_desk/Sections/Extension&curid=24751&diff=278590&oldid=276892 ah, wikitext
03:32 < Emufarmers> Where is thy sting?
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03:42 < Emufarmers> http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension_talk:OggHandler/Client_download&curid=19487&diff=278657&oldid=264714 Splarka, you and your beard!
03:43 < Splarka> don't look at me, I can't play ogg
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03:55 < MacMed> how come I can't select a hideuser option even though i enabled it for crats in my LocalPreferences
03:56 < MacMed> *LocalSettings
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04:00 < MacMed> ^demon: ^
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04:01 < MacMed> hmm
04:01 < MacMed> Splarka: above
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04:06 < p858snake> MacMed: is your user in the crats group?
04:06 < MacMed> yep
04:06 < Splarka> check Special:ListGroupRights
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04:08 < MacMed> says it doesnt have it
04:08 < MacMed> do i have to change DefaultSettings.php
04:10 < p858snake> no
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04:11 < MacMed> i;m sorry but i have to leave
04:12 < MacMed> the code i put into localsettings is $wgGroupPermissions['bureaucrat']['hideuser'] = truel
04:12 < MacMed> *true;
04:12 < MacMed> memo me anything wrong with that, thanks
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04:15 < Neurotiquette> Is there a way to find/list pages that are linked to but don't exist?
04:16 < Neurotiquette> (I.e. a special page that lists all "red links")
04:16 < afraidoftrees> [[Special:Wantedpages]]
04:17 < Neurotiquette> Thank you
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04:57 < CIA-12> dale * r57270 /trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (4 files):
04:57 < CIA-12> * fixed wah-transcode-helpout msg display
04:57 < CIA-12> * fixed wgJobTypeConfig query
04:57 < CIA-12> * added js msgs to localization file and did some msg fixes
04:57 < CIA-12> * added api error check
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05:05 < Neurotiquette> How do I make an IF statement that checks to see a string exists?
05:06 < wikibugs> (NEW) Allow page move by page ID in UI - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20938 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (herd)
05:06 < Splarka> you mean if the string is null, or undefined, versus defined?
05:07 < Splarka> {{foo}} vs {{foo|}} vs {{foo|bar}} -> {{{1}}} ?
05:07 < Splarka> {{#if:{{{1|}}}| third case | first or second case}}
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05:07 < Splarka> {{#if:{{{1}}}| first or third case | second case}}
05:07 < Neurotiquette> lol splarka, i'm sorry. Meant that for the python channel.
05:08 < Splarka> noob
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05:11 < Splarka> (rumormill mode) I heard a rumor that there is one hidden open bug for Product:MediaWiki that the board has chosen, and whoever fixes it gets to be the new CTO
05:11 < Splarka> everytime I tell a lie, freenode netsplits
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05:21 < wikibugs> (mod) Hideuser: Error when trying to block hidden user without hideuser right - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20524 (mac.med02)
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05:58 < DanielTahar> I think i'm an idiot; I placed a logo in the same path as the wiki logo, but can't seem to point to it from localsettings! what's wrong with this syntax (I just want to see it works with the original wiki logo): $wgLogo = "{$wgStylePath}/common/images/wiki.png";
06:00 < DanielTahar> nm i just used skins/common/images without the stylepath
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06:12 < CIA-12> aaron * r57271 /trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/Stabilization_body.php:
06:12 < CIA-12> * Refactor error messages
06:12 < CIA-12> * Fixed notices on fail
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07:47 < CIA-12> dale * r57272 /trunk/phase3/js2/ (18 files in 10 dirs):
07:47 < CIA-12> * moved remote oggHandler code to remoteMwEmbed.js
07:47 < CIA-12> * refactored skin system should soon be possible to have two player skins in a single page.
07:47 < CIA-12> * stubs to restore k-skin functionality
07:47 < CIA-12> * restored some broken pieces of mwEmbedRemote
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08:21 < coolllguyhhere> hello everyone.. can you please help me in learning mediawiki.. in terms of how to create categories and stuff?
08:23 < coolllguyhhere> anybody there?
08:24 < MaxSem> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents
08:25 < CIA-12> dale * r57273 /trunk/phase3/js2/remoteMwEmbed.js: * opps missing )
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08:34 < wikibugs> (NEW) Navigable TOC : Focus incorrect position when user clicks before the link starting sign('=') - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20940 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (wikibugs)
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08:44 < wikibugs> (NEW) Tool Bar is defferent in Firefox 1.5.0.12 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20941 blocker; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (wikibugs)
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09:04 < wikibugs> (CLOSED) NTOC : Sections with space at the end are not shown in TOC - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20918 +comment (wikibugs)
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09:45 < Sascha_H> Hi everybody.
09:49 < Sascha_H> I'm encountering a "Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 60 seconds exceeded in ...htdocs\mediawiki\includes\HttpFunctions.php on line 83" of a Semantic Media Wiki (Plus) installation. I am kind of *not* used to sys-admin work and obviously do not have the experience to create a good google query.
09:50 < Sascha_H> Could someone be so kind and give me a word or two on how I should / could start the debugging tour?
09:52 < Sascha_H> the aforementioned line 83 would be: "$text = file_get_contents( $url, false, $ctx );"
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09:55 < domas> what is the url? :)
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09:57 < MaxSem> try adding set_time_limit(300); somewhere before that line
09:58 < Sascha_H> Well, it is a simple search query: mediawiki/index.php/Special:Search?search=anyKeywordWillNotWork&fulltext=Search&tolerance=0
09:59 < Sascha_H> @MaxSem ty, I will try that out
10:00 < MaxSem> omg, I misread you. I thought you encountered it during installation, not _on_ MW installation
10:01 < MaxSem> set_time_limit may prevent the script from failing
10:01 < MaxSem> but you really need to speed it up
10:01 < Sascha_H> Oh, ok. Maybe I was not giving appropriate information.
10:01 < MaxSem> no, my fault
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10:12 < Sascha_H> So I have added that line and though the increased timeout interval works, I know get a server timeout message
10:13 < CIA-12> siebrand * r57274 /trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (WikiAtHome.i18n.php WikiAtHome.js): Fixes in messages.
10:13 < Sascha_H> anybody else an idea where to start my enquiries on a broken search function?
10:14 < CIA-12> siebrand * r57275 /trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/WikiAtHome.i18n.php: Update message documentation. Parameter was removed.
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10:32 < CIA-12> thomasv * r57276 /trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: use generic text getter added in r56811
10:35 < CIA-12> siebrand * r57277 /trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (WikiAtHome.i18n.php WikiAtHome.js): More fixes in messages.
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10:41 < wikibugs> (DUP) xslt parameter of api, should insert a stylesheet with type text/xsl, not text/xml - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20939 +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
10:41 < wikibugs> (mod) XSLT parameter to API queries - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19528 (alex.emsenhuber)
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11:06 < wikibugs> (INVALID) Tool Bar is defferent in Firefox 1.5.0.12 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20941 +comment (roan.kattouw)
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11:12 < CIA-12> thomasv * r57279 /trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ (ProofreadPage.i18n.php SpecialProofreadPages.php): search button using SearchEngine (follow up r57173)
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11:22 < wikibugs> (mod) LiquidThreads editing toolbar does not work - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20932 summary (agarrett)
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11:35 < CIA-12> daniel * r57280 /trunk/extensions/ (IPAuth/IPAuth.php Lockout/Lockout.php): fixed i18n path
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11:41 < CIA-12> werdna * r57281 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (4 files in 3 dirs): LiquidThreads: Add a preference (on by default) as to whether or not to display custom user signatures on posts. If it is off, it will just use the default signature. An end to the signature wars :).
11:44 < CIA-12> ialex * r57282 /trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/PrefixSearch.php): * (bug 20885) Search box no longer suggests unavailable special pages
11:45 < wikibugs> (FIXED) MWSuggest suggests unavailable special pages - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20885 +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
11:45 < wikibugs> (mod) Blank Pages on Print Preview for Cologne Blue Skin (MSIE) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12291 -testme ; +comment (maxsem.wiki)
11:46 < CIA-12> daniel * r57283 /trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: follow-up to r57278: cache all variables untill the next clearState()
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11:54 < CIA-12> daniel * r57284 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/importImages.php: new options: --limit --sleep --from
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12:04 < CIA-12> daniel * r57285 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/importImages.php: imageImport --check-userblock checks if the user used for importing was blocked
12:08 < werdna> Duesentrieb: that's a bit weird
12:09 < werdna> we don't usually check that ever in maintenance scripts
12:09 < werdna> it's a maintenance script, ffs :P
12:09 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Add signature-like (wikipedia-esque) options to LQ, allowing styling and name changing - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18952 low->normal (agarrett)
12:10 < Natalie> was blocked or is blocked?
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12:11 < Duesentrieb> werdna: well, see - if i'm importing 20000 images over several hours, and something goes wrong. then there should be a way to stop the import, right?
12:12 < Duesentrieb> basically, a long running server side import needs to be stoppable just like a bot.
12:12 < Natalie> I think it was just a verb tense misunderstanding. :-)
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12:13 < wikibugs> (NEW) NavigableTOC: Autoellipse doesn't account for highlighting, causes horizontal scrollbar to appear that obscures last section name - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20942 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (roan.kattouw)
12:13 < CIA-12> daniel * r57286 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/importImages.php: importImages --skip-dupes checks for dupes using sha1
12:25 < wikibugs> (NEW) Undo doesn't work - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20943 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (gsvick)
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12:43 < aypea> Hello, does anyone have experience with $wgHashedUploadDirectory ?
12:43 < Nikerabbit> like... what is your problem?
12:44 < aypea> I'm moving my wikipedia to another server - so I downloaded the images folder and reuploaded it to the new one
12:44 < Nikerabbit> mediawiki
12:44 < aypea> but all the images are in seperate folders, a quick google search told me to change $wgHashedUploadDirectory to true, or move all images out of their individual folders into /images
12:44 < Nikerabbit> what?
12:45 < aypea> Yes, mediawiki sorry.
12:45 < Nikerabbit> why should you change anything when moving?
12:45 < aypea> Becuase the images aren't loading.
12:45 < Nikerabbit> file not found or what?
12:45 < Nikerabbit> did you copy the database too?
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12:46 < aypea> What it boiled down to was I had to move all of my images. They were in sub folders in images like /1/10, /1/11 etc. I had to move all of the files from those folders to the root folder images/. Example: opera.jpg is in images/o/o2/opera.jpg. Move it from images/o/o2 to just images/. Once this was done, every image loaded up just fine without having to take any further action. Anything with the |thumb option regenerated a
12:46 < aypea> That's the problem I'm having - copied from a site
12:46 < Nikerabbit> you didn't *have to* move them
12:47 < aypea> There were no members, etc yet so I just copied the articles in plain text
12:47 < Nikerabbit> if they worked after changing something, you didn't migrate all settings from old LocalSettings.php
12:47 < aypea> not the fulldatabase/mysql etc
12:47 < Nikerabbit> you should copy the full database
12:47 < Nikerabbit> all the metadata about images are there
12:47 < Nikerabbit> have to go now -->
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12:48 < aypea> Why? I'm sure there is a easier solution
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12:51 < Splarka> the easier solution is to have $wgHashedUploadDirectory the same before and after, then you don't need to reorganize the structure
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12:52 < aypea> Yes...exactly. But I already changed it to true and it didn't work.
12:52 < Splarka> then something else is probably amiss
12:52 < aypea> ...
12:52 < aypea> obviousl
12:52 < aypea> y
12:52 < Splarka> if toggling it doesn't fix, then it isn't the problem
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13:16 < wikibugs> (mod) Hiding TOC should hide TOC in printout - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16869 (ireas)
13:16 < wikibugs> (mod) when TOC is hidden, it should not print - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482 +comment (ireas)
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13:35 < ^demon> What nick is MZMcBride going by these days?
13:36 < Splarka> Natalie
13:36 < ^demon> Natalie: Can you +sysop me on LQT labs?
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13:37 < ZeroOne> Hiya
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13:38 < CIA-12> werdna * r57287 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/pages/ (NewUserMessagesView.php SpecialNewMessages.php): Move inline functionality further up the tree in NewMessages, fixes bug where two edit forms would be shown.
13:38 < ZeroOne> I just installed MediaWiki for a small project group. How could I protect all the future and current pages so that only logged in users can edit them?
13:38 < svip> !wgGroupPermissions
13:38 < mwbot> I don't know anything about "wggrouppermissions". You might try: !newusergroup
13:38 < svip> Hm.
13:39 < svip> ZeroOne: Well, look up on the $wgGroupPermissions variable.
13:39 < ^demon> !permissions | ZeroOne
13:39 < mwbot> ZeroOne: For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >.
13:39 < ^demon> svip: !permissions is the one you want ;-)
13:40 < svip> ^demon: Ah.
13:40 < svip> ^demon: How about synonyms?
13:40 < ^demon> Hmm, I guess !wg GroupPermissions would work, but that only links to the global's man page and isn't terribly helpful.
13:40 < ^demon> @permissions
13:40 < ^demon> Or how does that thing work?
13:40 < Splarka> http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/botbrain.html
13:41 < svip> Splarka: Nice.
13:41 < svip> Why is it inside a frame?
13:41 < Splarka> ^demon: @search whatever
13:41 < Splarka> frame?
13:41 < ^demon> Ah ok.
13:41 < ^demon> s/frame/table?
13:41 < svip> I don't think it is a table.
13:42 < svip> Firefox doesn't bug up tables.
13:42 < Splarka> permissions/grouppermissions alias to !rights
13:42 < svip> It bugs up frames.
13:42 < Splarka> it isn't a or