[08:07:44] <altin>	 I enabled pageforms extension, and whenever I try to save an edit I get this error:
[08:07:45] <altin>	 [14fbafa33ab89d51522ccc48] /index.php?title=Main_Page&action=submit MWException from line 176 of /var/www/mediawiki/includes/Hooks.php: Invalid callback PFHooks::initProperties in hooks for smwInitProperties
[08:07:52] <altin>	 anyone knows why this is happening?
[11:25:08] <GlennS>	 Hi, I'm having trouble with the Media search in VisualEditor. It often simply fails to show an uploaded file in the search results. I'm wondering where the best place to get help about this would be?
[11:25:27] <GlennS>	 Should I just submit a bug?
[11:55:12] <andre__>	 GlennS, which MediaWiki version are you running?
[11:55:45] <andre__>	 Are you using the default MediaWiki search, or the CirrusSearch extension?
[11:56:29] <GlennS>	 andre__: Mediawiki 1.27.1 with VisualEditor 0.1.0
[11:56:32] <GlennS>	 and the default search
[11:57:07] <andre__>	 (Unrelated: Please upgrade to 1.27.3. 1.27.1 has security vulnerabilities.)
[11:57:53] <andre__>	 and the problem is only in VisualEditor's search? So it does not show an uploaded file, but the default search does show it?
[12:41:03] <GlennS>	 andre__: yes
[12:41:06] <GlennS>	 and it appears in the file list
[13:02:08] <GlennS>	 it looks like I can get it to show up if I put a * after the name
[13:02:15] <GlennS>	 I wonder if there is some weird encoding thing going on here
[13:58:26] <dp07Daniel>	 Hello everybody! I am here again. I am dp07Daniel and I am installing a new wiki on a shared webhosting server. I have an easy question (I think). How I can install extension as Diff? I only download from github (as .zip file)
[14:01:02] <dp07Daniel>	 The page said:
[14:01:04] <dp07Daniel>	 To add this package as a local, per-project dependency to your project, simply add a dependency on diff/diff to your project's composer.json file. Here is a minimal example of a composer.json file that just defines a dependency on Diff 3.x:
[14:03:41] <andre__>	 Hi dp07Daniel. What's unclear with those steps?
[14:03:50] <andre__>	 (looks like you refer to https://github.com/wmde/Diff/blob/master/README.md )
[14:04:51] <dp07Daniel>	 andre__: I don't know what's a composer.json
[14:05:20] <dp07Daniel>	 The others modules: just "wfLoadExtension( 'name' );"
[14:05:27] <Dereckson>	 Hi. Do you use an OS like Debian with a package manager like apt?
[14:06:07] <dp07Daniel>	 No, I have an account on a shared webhosting server
[14:06:20] <Dereckson>	 it's not an OS or distro related problem, I try to find something you already know to compare with.
[14:06:36] <Dereckson>	 Well let's try without.
[14:07:04] <Dereckson>	 A modern PHP application uses other components, to provide some features, e.g. a library to generate diffs
[14:07:07] <dp07Daniel>	 I haven't access to the console. It's a unix OS
[14:07:46] <Dereckson>	 15 years ago, the PHP application you used will provide these libs, in an includes/ folder for example
[14:07:51] <dp07Daniel>	 I don't know the distro
[14:08:07] <Dereckson>	 nowadays, we've a software to take care of this: Composer
[14:08:45] <Dereckson>	 composer.json is a file telling "I'm the application ____ and I want to use this, this, this and that" (we call them 'dependencies'), Composer takes care to install dependencies.
[14:09:10] <Dereckson>	 So the instructions ask your to ask a new dependency to your application.
[14:09:27] <Dereckson>	 By the way https://github.com/wmde/Diff isn't a MediaWiki extension per se, it's a lib to build other PHP apps 
[14:09:49] <dp07Daniel>	 Woow....
[14:10:11] <Dereckson>	 Wikibase, the extension powering Wikidata uses it
[14:10:50] <Dereckson>	 What's your root problem, what do you need as feature on your wiki?
[14:11:55] <Dereckson>	 And by the way, the fact y ou don't have a SSH access to your shared hosting server is an annoying limitation: you'll find a LOT of procedures more easy to achieve with such access.
[14:12:46] <dp07Daniel>	 I saw that Mediawiki and Wikipedia use this "DataValues, DataValues Common, DataValues Geo, DataValues Interfaces, DataValues JavaScript, DataValues Number, DataValues Time, Diff". I have a personal wiki. Are you traing to say me that I don't need Diff for example?
[14:13:11] <Dereckson>	 You probably don't, indeed.
[14:13:46] <Dereckson>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q47512 <- see the ionization energy
[14:13:47] <Dereckson>	 10.66±0.01 electronvolt ?
[14:14:00] <dp07Daniel>	 And, if I need it later, I need root access by ssh cosole commands?
[14:14:05] <Dereckson>	 DataValues Number takes care for example to allow to reprenset this 10.66±0.01
[14:14:25] <Dereckson>	 as long as you don't need to turn your wiki in a database, you don't need that
[14:14:49] <Dereckson>	 root access isn't required
[14:14:55] <Dereckson>	 (generrally)
[14:15:04] <Dereckson>	 only an access to the account serving your website
[14:15:15] <Dereckson>	 (probably the same username you use for FTP)
[14:16:12] <dp07Daniel>	 Woow... I need read more before install a module, and a lot more before ask here.
[14:16:47] <dp07Daniel>	 I like a lot your brain Dereckson 
[14:16:57] <dp07Daniel>	 Thank you so much
[14:17:22] <Dereckson>	 You're welcome
[17:37:17] <mortalites>	 I appologize up front. I rarely use irc/chat rooms. I desperately need some help with a table layout for the homepage of a wiki that Im working on. I would really appreciate it if someone might take a little time and help me
[17:39:47] <Reedy>	 !ask | mortalites
[17:39:47] <wm-bot>	 mortalites: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :)
[17:39:59] <Reedy>	 Plus linking to your wiki if it's public can be helpful :)
[17:41:40] <mortalites>	 ok I just pasted the code https://dpaste.de/PhOd and teh and here is the homepage to the https://www.gatesofsurvival.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[17:43:07] <mortalites>	 Basically under the Skills Section. I want to have 1 Table with 2 columns. Column 1 has the Skills listed in a gallery tag. Column 2 has the World map. Then a bottom row that is centered and spans both columns that shows the Contributors of the Wiki
[17:43:54] <Reedy>	 colspan=2 ?
[17:43:58] <mortalites>	 I have it partially working, but my biggest issue is on low resolution screens the Gallery doesnt keep a row of 6 items
[17:46:35] <mortalites>	 heres what it looks like on a lower resolution. http://prntscr.com/fjcomw
[17:47:13] <mortalites>	 I want it to always stay like this http://prntscr.com/fjcp1w
[17:47:53] <mortalites>	 i also tried colspan for the bottom row but I dont think my code is correct. Im sorry i know very basic html
[17:54:29] <mortalites>	 would anyone be willing to make a quick account on that wiki and help me edit that section of the wiki?
[18:10:39] <mortalites>	 would anyone be willing to work 1 on 1 with me for a few minutes regarding my table issue