[00:48:45] <jubo2>	 Ahh.. I left myself clues https://wiki.study/regarding/Wiki.study:Imported_citation_templates
[01:42:10] <Volund>	 So maybe the best way to go about this is
[01:45:10] <Volund>	 Let's see I have X amount of different mediawikis being run off of the same nginx/php-fpm arrangement. They're ALL using the same base pile of Extensions. Then my server exploded and I have to transfer and set them all up again on a new host... only to discover that the new host's PHP version causes some warnings to appear. Do I seriously have to go the process of painstakingly updated EACH AND EVERY wiki and all of its 
[01:45:10] <Volund>	 extensions? How might I automate this somewhat?
[01:45:44] <Volund>	 or, for that matter, I want to add a new wiki to this pile and have it start with those some base extensions too.
[02:27:30] <bd808>	 Volund: you might get some ideas from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family
[02:30:12] <Volund>	 ooooh thanks
[02:34:24] <Volund>	 uh.. hm.
[02:34:25] <Volund>	 https://www.unitedheroesmush.com/index.php?title=Logs
[02:34:35] <Volund>	 how do I debug this? I need more information than just that.
[03:09:52] <ashley>	 Volund: set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; in your wiki's LocalSettings.php (and don't forget to remove it/comment it out once you're done debugging, just in case)
[03:16:03] <Volund>	 oh thank you
[03:48:49] <Bobby>	 Hello Team, I am trying to use media wiki but facing issues, can i get some help pleasE?
[07:21:54] <jayanta>	 Could you please check
[07:26:07] <jayanta>	 Hi I am from cis India, I have install mediawiki in VPS server run by Ubuntu 16, http://cisa2k.org/index.php/Main_Page, but have an error of skin vector although I have a folder of vector in the directory in skin
[07:26:22] <jayanta>	 can anyone help??
[08:58:21] <Questionare>	 Hello all
[09:00:24] <Questionare>	 I was wondering to configure mediawiki so that it searches everything and not just pages by default ? It is because we delete cookies and so it would be very nice if we could configre the wiki to always search everything.
[09:05:54] <p858snake|L>	 Questionare: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault
[09:06:51] <p858snake|L>	 and if you have added custom namespaces, i recommend looking at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgContentNamespaces
[09:08:31] <Questionare>	 Big thanks guys, I was not able to find it :)
[17:15:00] <Amir1>	 Can someone make me interface admin in mediawiki.org? we have only one interface admin right now: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ListUsers?username=&group=interface-admin&wpsubmit=&wpFormIdentifier=mw-listusers-form&limit=50
[17:15:41] <Skizzerz>	 Amir1: "we only have one" isn't a good reason. What do you plan on doing with it
[17:15:59] <Skizzerz>	 unless you actively need to be editing css/js, I don't see a reason to assign it
[17:16:26] <Amir1>	 Skizzerz: true, I'm planning to work on the interface and its elements to align it wikimedia design style guide (design.wikimedia.org)
[17:16:36] <Amir1>	 For example, fixing https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Editnotices/Template:Main_page
[17:16:53] <Amir1>	 (It should be something like https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/M241)
[17:16:59] <Skizzerz>	 can you put in a request on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Requests ?
[17:17:56] <Skizzerz>	 that way other people who aren't necessarily on IRC right now can chime in as needed
[17:18:39] <Amir1>	 Skizzerz: done https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Requests/User_rights/Ladsgroup
[17:18:51] <Skizzerz>	 awesome, thanks!
[17:19:48] <Skizzerz>	 poke me again in a few days if I don't remember it and I can close it out :)
[17:20:03] <Amir1>	 sure, thanks!
[17:31:15] <Andreaslag>	 huh
[19:08:20] <Bombo>	 is there an extension to confirm user accounts, but WITHOUT email enabled?
[19:09:16] <Bombo>	 i want everyone to be able to create an account, but without read/edit permissions, until i confirm the account
[19:10:18] <Reedy>	 You don't need an extension for that
[19:10:34] <Reedy>	 Well, the read part might be harder...
[19:10:46] <Bombo>	 ok then how can i do that?
[19:12:14] <Bombo>	 i got: $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = true; $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false;
[19:12:28] <Bombo>	 so no one can read without an account
[19:12:40] <Reedy>	 You probably want the same for 'user' for the last two (as users by default can read and edit)
[19:12:51] <Bombo>	 but now when someone creates an account he can read
[19:13:39] <Bombo>	 yes 
[19:13:40] <Bombo>	 $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = false;          
[19:13:41] <Bombo>	 $wgGroupPermissions['user']['read'] = false;   
[19:14:04] <Bombo>	 i tried that, but now i don't have permissions as admin 
[19:14:14] <Bombo>	 any
[19:14:19] <Bombo>	 not good ;)
[19:14:36] <Bombo>	 everyone is in group 'user'
[19:14:48] <Reedy>	 So, you probably want to add a new user group, called "confirmed" or something
[19:14:58] <Reedy>	 And then give that group those rights (and add yourself to that group)
[19:15:10] <Reedy>	 Then you can add people to that group when they get "confirmed" manually by you
[19:15:22] <Reedy>	 And/or explicitly do
[19:15:26] <Reedy>	 $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['edit'] = true;
[19:15:29] <Reedy>	 $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['read'] = true;
[19:19:59] <Bombo>	 ah got it! thx Reedy ;)
[19:23:24] <Bombo>	 hm ok now i get a message on every page 'limited to group foobar' can i edit that too? like just 'access denied, no reason'?
[19:24:11] <bawolff_>	 If you add ?&uselang=qqx to the end of the url, it will tell you what page to edit to change the message
[19:25:40] <Bombo>	 hmkay says 'badaccess-groups' 
[19:26:12] <bawolff_>	 So that means that it uses the page MediaWiki:badaccess-groups as a template
[19:26:14] <Bombo>	 and or (permissionserrorstext-withaction: 1, (action-read))
[19:26:30] <bawolff_>	 so if you edit that page it will change the message shown
[19:28:46] <Bombo>	 nice, thx bawolff_ 
[19:28:50] <Bombo>	 good to know 
[19:36:37] <Bombo>	 ok one prob left: how do i delete a group? i just added 'testgroup' then removed the lines from LocalSettings.php adding 'realgroupname' but the testuser is still in 'testgroup' 
[19:37:24] <Bombo>	 hm prob i have to readd the group, and remove the user from the group, THEN remove the lines i guess
[19:38:29] <Bombo>	 ok its gone ;)
[19:44:50] <Bombo>	 can i somehow add a link to Special:Userrights for each user listed in Special:Users? 
[19:49:12] <Reedy>	 You mean on Special:ListUsers?
[19:51:21] <Bombo>	 probably, i got german names, i want to change it so i wouldn't have to look the username up in Special:Users, then go to Special:Userrights and type the name to modify a user
[19:52:51] <Bombo>	 yes i get the user list, can block a user etc
[19:53:14] <Bombo>	 but i want to edit the userrights for the user 
[19:59:33] <Bombo>	 Special:ListUsers should show links to Special:UserRights/TestUser e.g. so that i can add/change groups 
[19:59:36] <Reedy>	 You should be able to do it with site JS...
[19:59:41] <Reedy>	 <span class="mw-usertoollinks">(<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:!_!&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new mw-usertoollinks-talk" title="User talk:! ! (page does not exist)">talk</a>&nbsp;| <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/!_!" class="mw-usertoollinks-contribs new" title="Special:Contributions/! !">contribs</a>&nbsp;| <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/!_!" class="mw-usertoollinks-block" title="Special:Block/! !">block</a>)</span>
[20:00:29] <Bombo>	 where do i put that?
[20:01:24] <Reedy>	 The JS needs writing
[20:02:12] <Reedy>	 I'm just trying to see if I can work out what it would be
[20:03:09] <Bombo>	 hmmm 
[20:03:49] <Reedy>	 It's not really my area of expertise :P
[20:04:35] <Bombo>	 ;)
[20:07:34] <Reedy>	 Would be easier in PHP, but seemingly no relevant hooks
[21:09:23] <tgr>	 Bombo: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SpecialListusersFormatRow ?
[21:38:26] <p858snake>	 Bombo: Perhaps also file a task in Phabricator so it can be looked at being included in core
[21:39:45] <Skizzerz>	 Bombo: in the meantime, a workaround is to go to the user's Contributions by clicking the contrib link. From there, Userrights is linked on the contributions page