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[16:14:22] Hello friends [16:16:47] we are going closer towards WCI, all of us are excited. Perhaps we can concentrate a little more. [16:16:47] Once you all join we'll discuss a few points [16:17:36] Hi Tito [16:18:30] Hello bro [16:20:19] Testing from a dup of Titodutta, ignore this message [16:23:38] Hello everyone [16:24:11] Hi Jim [16:24:26] Hello Rudra, please see if someone is around, [16:25:03] Okay. [16:26:03] pinged two people [16:26:36] should we wait or start> [16:26:59] both of them have seen my messages, I suggest wait for few minutes [16:27:42] should we start at 10:00 pm. Ravi what do you say? [16:29:08] I think we should start now. [16:30:37] Yes, we can start [16:30:50] Please check FB chat for the etherpad doc where I am updating to do [16:30:53] We need more hands [16:30:59] let's start. No need to wait for others [16:31:26] Any specific agenda from anyone? [16:32:18] Anyone? [16:32:57] I can join with some one for conference guide [16:32:58] I feel we need more attention towards papers and edit-a-thon, thoughts? [16:33:30] Definitely we need to inform people what do we really mean [16:33:32] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Talk:WikiConference India 2016/Code of Conduct was created, changed by Kk2k7it link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2016/Code_of_Conduct edit summary: Created page with "This is awesome 'WikiConference India 2016 Diversity and Inclusion Team', kudos to you all for putting up such a comprehensive policy in place. I think it covered almost all,..." [16:33:57] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Talk:WikiConference India 2016/Code of Conduct was modified, changed by Kk2k7it link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=15739370 edit summary: [16:35:07] Getting more quality submissions is a top priority [16:35:16] I am confident of getting that once central notice is up [16:35:16] We need to inform people somehow what do we mean by papers or presentations [16:35:31] Edit-a-thon can be taken care by respective communities. [16:35:37] No need to push that [16:35:40] Ravi, however we need to make the things more clear [16:35:49] We need attention towards conf related logistics [16:35:58] Who appointed initial co-ordinators? [16:36:14] What type of logistics? [16:36:43] There is no appointment for anyone [16:36:50] Only involvement :) [16:37:10] Yes, I realize we need to communicate better [16:37:26] Please let us know where we need to clarify [16:37:39] Let us discuss about the logistics part here [16:37:45] Logistics - anything that is needed for the real 3 day conference to happen well [16:38:03] Hi! Where can I find the conference schedule? [16:38:07] Logistics is not so much important, in my humble opinion [16:38:16] I think ground team shall do most of the work. [16:38:17] Mourya, I'll send you [16:38:27] Okay thanks [16:39:19] Ravi, we need a way to communicate with our participants (thoughts?) [16:39:31] ground team will do what needs to be done on ground [16:39:41] all else can contribute where virtual support is possible [16:39:53] which sort of supports? [16:39:57] We don't have finalzied participants yet :( [16:40:15] Next priority is to open the event registration form when scholarship results are out [16:40:41] I meant we can have a long massmail/email list of people who we'll contact once a week, asking to submit papers, create edit-athon articles etc. Sounds OK? [16:40:42] Should we go for https://www.eventbrite.com/ like services? [16:40:52] I guess Wikimania and bnwiki10 used services like that [16:41:33] Perhaps [16:41:57] You mean like outsourcing the event to some professional organizer? [16:41:57] hi [16:42:13] No [16:42:15] https://www.eventbrite.com/ this is actually a fine idea [16:42:31] No it is not, what is the need Jim? [16:43:20] Hi Jim can you kindly tell me a little more about this [16:43:23] To collect payments for event registration, such service are need [16:43:38] Okay [16:43:39] That is right @Ravu [16:43:45] @Ravi [16:44:02] Mourya, there is not total outsourcing. Right now, local team is choosing vendors for swags, catering etc., [16:44:07] and rather than creating a form for registration we can use it [16:44:08] ok [16:44:51] Are they charging reasonable [16:44:53] I was thinking of a single contact point, a single email from our side (0r talk message) giving all needed message or explanation [16:44:53] Oh alright [16:44:55] internet facilities, projectors, whiteboards are to be arranged by the local team. [16:45:16] Well, we can check various services and choose the best based on price and features [16:45:31] nice [16:45:38] Jim_Carter: such things are taken care. no worries [16:45:55] great! [16:45:58] Titodutta: I agree with massmessage delivery list [16:46:10] I have got access for massmessage delivery too [16:46:13] Thanks Ravi, I expected this from you [16:46:49] massmessage delivery or mass-email delivery? [16:48:03] Both can be made use of, I think [16:49:03] Ya [16:49:19] okay [16:50:02] I have a few specific questions in mind, once you allow me I'll ask (doesn't matter how many people are here) [16:50:11] Titodutta: Need to first create a list for signed up volunteers - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2016/Community_and_Team/Volunteer_Registration [16:50:22] and keep them updates about recent happenings and seek more help [16:50:44] Single point email can be wikiconferenceindia@wikimedia.in [16:51:00] We can provide access to anyone who comes forward to coordinate [16:51:05] Will I get emails from this email id? [16:51:18] I also suggest we have weekly two IRCs henceforth. [16:51:24] Wednesday and Saturday [16:51:27] Same time [16:51:32] I completely agree with Ravi [16:51:56] Some peole have requested Google Hangouts. We can also try that and see if it gets more participation [16:52:09] We have got an account in Mailchimp for mass mailing [16:52:22] Mass mails through gmail directly are caught in spam [16:52:30] yes, two guys I invited now could not understand things [16:52:33] However I have a few specific questions in mind, once you allow me I'll ask [16:52:52] Right now, we have one list of emails for all who applied for scholarships [16:53:10] Titodutta: it pains me to note the formal language :( [16:53:13] we are working together [16:53:17] just shoot the questions [16:53:59] yes, Tito what are the questions? [16:54:23] a) how can we increase reach? With Ravi I have talked about weekly digest email. Should we try? [16:54:23] Should we notify Wikimediaindia mailing list before IRC (the way WMF does?) [16:54:42] That's my first question [16:56:28] Second opinion, we may have all the selected people in our subscribers list and give them updates from tie to time [16:57:00] Several things are important a) presentations/abstracts, b) edit-a-thon articles etc [16:57:02] Please shoot all questions [16:57:51] These two for now, [16:58:52] What matters more people doing the work than appearing for IRC [16:59:07] true [16:59:30] In that way, I am skeptical of spamming wikimediaindia mailing list [16:59:38] conference mailing list is totally inactive [16:59:51] we can try a whatsapp group for WCI organizers [17:00:14] I slightly contradict Ravi, [17:00:14] Today I spent all day explaining edit-a-thon co-ordinators' work [17:00:14] Peehaps regular communcations could help [17:00:53] whatsapp group would be great [17:00:55] I only shared my concern. But, everyone can feel free to spread the news in any format and medium [17:01:13] I don't have Android :( [17:01:15] Some peopel informed that FB is blocked in their office [17:01:18] Yes Ravi [17:01:19] so whatsapp can help [17:01:42] whatsapp is used by majority [17:01:43] Ultimately, we end up sharing same message in more channels [17:01:55] what i feel is more commitment from already knowledgeable members [17:02:04] not new volunteers at this moment [17:02:08] Any idea on digest email? we can try. Reading 1100 lines on FB is tedious [17:02:14] we need people who identify the gap, take charge and get things done [17:02:39] We can have daily update of to do lists. That is workable than digest mails [17:02:39] I believe digest mail is quite complex for beginners to understand [17:02:44] Writing a digest takes more time [17:02:54] I agree with you Ravi [17:03:17] "10:32:44 pm - ravidreams: Writing a digest takes more time" [17:03:22] -- it does not [17:03:23] The ultimate point is each one do what works for them and others :) [17:03:29] Only main points [17:03:36] So, there are no restrictions and formal process to get things done [17:03:52] Rights [17:04:13] Tito, I am actually spending 24x7 for conf work and still don't find time to get many things done [17:04:30] Perhaps we can try to get all participants under one umbrella? [17:04:46] Perhaps, we can also share few phone numbers (like mine) [17:04:50] Ravi I can do it. [17:04:57] so people can just call and get clarified [17:05:00] Little help would be enoigh [17:05:10] if online conversations are difficult to follow [17:06:24] I can callback peoples, if they need any help [17:06:41] I have four days of holiday from today, I can spend more time on this. [17:07:10] Dinesh, that is cool :) [17:07:11] Should we give it a try for a week? For WCI edit-a-thon we are going to do it, I hope [17:07:18] (I;ll do) [17:08:34] Something abut papers/abstracts? [17:09:53] we should edit this section [17:09:53] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2016/Call_for_Participation#Tracks [17:09:59] We need more papers/abstracts. But how? Ideas [17:10:07] and some sample papers, we can provide links to Wikimania presentations [17:10:28] we need to follow up people from different communities and ask them to recommend few people who can present in WCI 2016 [17:10:57] we need to follow up people from different communities and ask them to recommend few people who can present in WCI 2016 [17:11:01] In what way Dinesh? [17:11:15] For example, I know Manoj K from Malayalam Wiki Community who can present paper on Photos and birds for wiki projects [17:11:21] Here are steps we are taking: [17:11:24] I can follow up with him [17:11:33] Informing scholarship applicants to present papeers [17:11:44] Great idea Ravi :) [17:11:51] Identifying people who have proposed to to papers in applications and approach them (Elisa from CIS will help with this) [17:12:00] I agree with Ravi [17:12:05] Get central notice up. It will be live from 4th july for 2 weeks [17:12:09] That is also a good idea [17:12:12] tha should get us most responses [17:12:12] This should help [17:12:27] another approach is what dinesh and many others are suggesting [17:12:39] identify people who have things to share and encourage them to submit papers [17:13:09] Why not tr both Ravi? I called 4-5 people today to become WCI edit-a-thon co-ordinator [17:13:15] try* [17:13:46] yes, we need to try both, so that we will get more proposals and we can filter it out if required [17:15:12] Makes sense [17:15:58] yes, I meant to say we are implementing all approaches [17:16:00] not either or [17:16:42] Dinesh, Tito: Good to see you in action :) [17:17:15] :) [17:18:00] continue please, before we end I'll ask two questions on edit-a-thin [17:18:12] That's all from me now [17:18:26] After this chat, if you time please come to scholarship team chat [17:18:37] When and where> [17:18:44] FB? [17:18:48] Yes [17:19:24] OK [17:19:24] a) we need an experienced co-ordinator from Tamil [17:19:49] Also Malayalam, Telugu, Hindi [17:20:11] I have not got response from Shiva, perhaps Ravi can take care [17:20:24] Tamil will be taken care by many others too [17:20:28] No worries [17:20:40] That is the model now Ravi [17:20:43] How about Muzammil for Hindi [17:20:54] Pranay for Telugu [17:21:19] We are thinking to completely open En WP edit-a-thon (i.e. create any article related to Punjab, as all articles are created) [17:21:31] hi everyone [17:21:34] m sorry m late [17:21:37] Hi Manav [17:21:47] my internet wasn't working [17:21:55] Hi Manav [17:22:11] Will be good to document updates from LOC [17:22:26] we had a meeting today [17:22:38] where we discussed the basics required from the host institute [17:22:45] finalised the catering details [17:22:49] Titodutta: //e are thinking to completely open En WP edit-a-thon// That is actually the idea. The current list is only a recommendation for unguided communities [17:22:55] as they may not what to write [17:22:55] SWAG as well... [17:23:02] Any article relate dto Punjab is counted [17:23:18] Manav, we are discussing edit-athon. I called Staling an Parveer and they told the local event page should be up today [17:23:26] okk [17:23:29] alright [17:23:42] actually ravi asked for updates [17:23:55] Ya, please go ahead manav [17:24:16] What about out-of-WCi editors? [17:24:17] ok... [17:24:41] Monday morning me and stalin are meeting to open the account [17:25:22] Ravi? [17:26:13] tuesday...me parveer harpreet and stalin are going to chandigarh and we'll be meeting people from the tribune, Travel company, Caterers and will be meeting Chandigarh Authorities for photo walk and excursion [17:26:23] Great, Manav. You are free to choose the best service provider for the right price [17:26:25] If we start an edit-a-thon, we'll get editors who have not applied for scholarship and not going to join, [17:26:25] Can we attract them saying their community will get award/trophy? [17:26:29] not always the cheapest one [17:26:39] just need to get competing quotes. that's all [17:26:39] we have a plan [17:26:48] and I wanted to ask you about it [17:27:13] Manav: Excited to know about the Tuesday plans [17:27:20] +1 [17:27:21] can we propose an edit a thon [17:27:42] we'll form teams and then will finalise everything [17:28:04] by 7th July... I'll forward the letters for permission to the DSP, Mohali [17:28:24] What edit-a-thon, manav [17:28:29] "can we propose an edit a thon" -- ummm we are doing one now [17:28:55] As I am from Forensic background, so me and harpreet were thinking to have a session of editing forensic articles [17:29:22] we can call research scholars and MSc students and can motivate them to continue the same after the conference as well [17:29:58] Hm! [17:30:32] or we can even have a small competition [17:31:07] Manav, are you aware of our current Punjab edit-a-thon? If not, Ravi or me will brief you shortly [17:31:49] well... stalin told me about it today [17:32:21] yes Manav, that;s our gift to Punjab, I'd suggest let;s concentrate here [17:32:30] ok [17:32:59] Manav, it will be good to focus your energies on general audience now [17:33:10] :) [17:33:19] Edit-a-thon specific to a particular field may be taken up later [17:33:30] ok [17:33:55] Feel free to do any general pre-conferene event [17:34:15] In fact, I am hoping a good number of local people attending and having parallel tracks / workshops in Punjabi [17:34:15] Perhaps we could revisit our strategy to get more papers/abstracts before we end? [17:34:24] okk [17:35:15] Is there anything where others can offer more support to the LOC [17:37:30] who will be doing flight and travel arrangements, this can be done by anyone, not necessary local team? [17:39:04] A few things I takeaway from this discussions: [17:39:04] a) As Ravi said, we may consider bi-weekly IRCs. [17:39:04] b) Experimentally we can try email digest. [17:39:04] c) We need to encourage more and more people to i) submit papers ii) join edit-a-thons [17:39:04] d) we need to plan pre-conference events [17:39:04] (Please add your take-aways) [17:39:59] And please consider on the edit-a-thon (please contact Ravi or me for details), it'd be great to see 300 Punjab articles [17:40:12] we r meeting a travel company to see the best they have to offer [17:41:02] the other mates can help us designing the brochure... [17:41:58] Ravi... the logo [17:42:00] Sure, Manav [17:42:04] ya? [17:42:12] for t-shirts we need a separate logo [17:42:23] the one we have now won't look nice... [17:42:59] as its 3D [17:43:52] ok, will request Manoj [17:44:00] thank you [17:44:03] Guess, we have to wind up IRC now [17:44:12] Let's coninue discussing in FB chats as usual [17:44:45] ok [17:45:19] Perhaps we should conclude now? [17:46:17] Yes, goonight all [17:46:26] and thanks Tito for bringig more people today :) [17:46:29] bfn [17:47:24] Thanks and food night [17:48:07] good* [18:39:39] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page WikiConference India 2016/Punjab Edit-a-thon was modified, changed by Ananth subray link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=15739491 edit summary: /* Co-ordinators */ [21:19:33] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page WikiConference India 2016/Submissions/Wikitongues (Every Language In The World) was created, changed by Satdeep Gill link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2016/Submissions/Wikitongues_(Every_Language_In_The_World) edit summary: New Submission [21:24:02] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page WikiConference India 2016/Submissions/Wikitongues (Every Language In The World) was modified, changed by Satdeep Gill link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=15739765 edit summary: [21:29:24] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page WikiConference India 2016/Submissions/Wikitongues (Every Language In The World) was modified, changed by Satdeep Gill link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=15739775 edit summary: