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[13:59:39] <shyamal>	 Bodhisattwa, is Rohini informed?
[14:00:40] <Bodhisattwa>	 I dont know
[14:03:02] <shyamal>	 Bodhi, my suggestion is that we put in comments at the end of the submissions themselves - so that the poster can respond to some of our comments. The only other way is to follow up individually with the proposers.
[14:03:28] <shyamal>	 It seems impossible to judge what the content of the talk will be unless we have some idea of the person in real life.
[14:03:50] <Satdeep>	 That is a good idea Shyamal
[14:05:37] <shyamal>	 I think speakers that any one of us knows personally or has a recommendation from anyone known to our network have to be given higher credibility.
[14:06:49] <Satdeep>	 I agree to this
[14:07:22] <Bodhisattwa>	 Agrees
[14:07:25] <Bodhisattwa>	 Agreed
[14:08:16] <shyamal>	 Silly question, how do I remove the unevaluated template?
[14:08:21] <shyamal>	 sorry category
[14:08:34] <shyamal>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_pakistan_2016/Submissions/Your_proposal_title
[14:09:01] <shyamal>	 I cannot see a way of removing the unevaluated category... I added it to "not accepted"
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[14:10:18] <Satdeep>	 We type result = -1
[14:11:01] <Bodhisattwa>	 result = -1
[14:11:25] <shyamal>	 where should I do that?
[14:12:01] <Satdeep>	 I already did that... Click on edit and then you can see it
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[14:12:20] <shyamal>	 ah ok
[14:13:02] <Satdeep>	 similarly accepted is result = 1
[14:13:11] <shyamal>	 I am really just tempted to delete the junk submissions
[14:13:20] <shyamal>	 It seems like it attracts more junk
[14:14:20] <shyamal>	 Satdeep, if I remember right there are four rooms and four simultaneous tracks? Is that right?
[14:14:37] <shyamal>	 So do we have to assign the proposals to tracks?
[14:15:16] <shyamal>	 Also how do we actually know the content and time that the user needs from the summaries provided?
[14:16:21] <Satdeep>	 That is flexible..
[14:18:53] <Satdeep_>	 I hope i didnt miss anything
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[14:19:18] <Titodutta>	 No you did not
[14:19:54] <Titodutta>	 Bodhi, is not the time of starting reviewing is 20 July?
[14:20:50] <shyamal>	 Hi Ravi
[14:20:54] <shyamal>	 do we have an agenda?
[14:24:47] <Bodhisattwa>	 @Tito, yes,
[14:24:49] <ravidreams>	 Hi Shayamal, I was hoping you and Bodhi will set the agenda for the Programs team IRC :)
[14:25:16] <Bodhisattwa>	 Sorry Ravi, I was thinking it was your call
[14:25:18] <Bodhisattwa>	 :-)
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[14:26:58] <ravidreams>	 I am here to clarify anything regarding logistics :)
[14:27:13] <Bodhisattwa>	 ok
[14:27:22] <ravidreams>	 I am pinging many scholarship recipients to submit proposals
[14:27:30] <ravidreams>	 May be we will see more submissions in the next 3 days
[14:27:41] <Satdeep>	 20th is the deadline ?
[14:27:46] <ravidreams>	 as Tito hinted, this IRC can discuss about review methods
[14:27:54] <ravidreams>	 Yes, 20th is deadline
[14:28:08] <ravidreams>	 Also, Programs team may make itself familiar with the survey results
[14:28:13] <shyamal>	 I am actually in favour of doing more things on wiki than on google docs or IRC
[14:28:15] <Bodhisattwa>	 As the number of submissions are very low, I can safely assume that we dont need too many rooms
[14:28:21] <ravidreams>	 It has good number of responses from scholarship recipients
[14:28:36] <ravidreams>	 so gives a better idea about the expectations of participants
[14:28:36] <Titodutta>	 Have we started reviewing already?
[14:29:10] <shyamal>	 actually google docs is ok, but IRC seems to be too much of a time eater - as we all have to be simultaneously present
[14:29:37] <Titodutta>	 Bodhi?
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[14:30:13] <shyamal>	 Ravi, I think presenters known to at least some of hte community members and known to have something of substance to present should be straight off passed regardless of the summaries
[14:30:27] <Bodhisattwa>	 @Tito, we are clearing junks only
[14:30:59] <Titodutta>	 Is this review been done?
[14:30:59] <Titodutta>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=WikiConference_India_2016%2FSubmissions%2FWMIN_membership_drive&type=revision&diff=15772467&oldid=15756728
[14:31:28] <Bodhisattwa>	 Check the talk page
[14:31:47] <shyamal>	 Ravi, is Natalya Timkiiv turning up?
[14:32:09] <shyamal>	 Or is this a Skype plan?
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[14:32:25] <ravidreams>	 Natalya is visiting
[14:32:34] <shyamal>	 ok, then I can readily pass her proposa
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[14:33:51] <ravidreams>	 One thing I want to draw attention of programs team is the diversity and inclusion policy
[14:34:15] <ravidreams>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2016/Code_of_Conduct#Diversity_and_Inclusion_guidelines
[14:34:29] <ravidreams>	 There should be enough women presenting, taking part in panels
[14:34:41] <Titodutta>	 Right Ravi
[14:35:07] <ravidreams>	 Programs team should also go through survey results analysis - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uI97vsYb5rAvfObWLRHC1bg_f2ODDA1u_fd_atSWs74/edit?usp=sharing
[14:35:21] <Titodutta>	 Gendergao should be addressed here as well
[14:35:21] <ravidreams>	 to decide number of topics, time etc.,
[14:35:49] <ravidreams>	 Program team may also need to initiate some proposals, panel discussions and invite people to take part of it
[14:35:51] <ravidreams>	 I can help with it
[14:35:57] <ravidreams>	 for example, panel discussion on netneutrality
[14:36:17] <Bodhisattwa>	 why not net neutrality and wikipedia zero
[14:36:22] <Bodhisattwa>	 he he
[14:36:42] <Bodhisattwa>	 ;-)
[14:36:56] <ravidreams>	 Bodhisattwa: I even know what WikiRadio channel you hear :)
[14:37:13] <Bodhisattwa>	 :-)
[14:37:41] <shyamal>	 Ok, so it seems our program selection committee has only a token woman and she is not present now, what do we do?
[14:38:00] <Titodutta>	 Who is she?
[14:38:14] <shyamal>	 We apparently need a minimum of three women on any panel or committee to not make it a token.
[14:38:16] <ravidreams>	 We have a limited budget for bringing speakers. If program team can identify some of the top presentations, we can see if we have enough funds to bring them
[14:38:26] <ravidreams>	 Obviously, not all proposals are from scholarship recipients
[14:38:37] <Bodhisattwa>	 I think, we can include Netha in the program selection team. That would be neutral.
[14:38:45] <Titodutta>	 Right, that's an issue
[14:38:48] <ravidreams>	 three women out of ten member team?
[14:39:08] <Titodutta>	 Agree Bodhi
[14:39:31] <ravidreams>	 we are not deciding anythig today. so that is ok
[14:39:37] <ravidreams>	 we can try to add more women to the team
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[14:39:48] <ravidreams>	 and make sure to inform well in advance for future discussions
[14:40:07] <shyamal>	 Bodhi, I think we can be more lenient with lightning talks
[14:40:10] <shyamal>	 ;)
[14:40:22] <shyamal>	 we need some humorous talks and events too
[14:40:40] <shyamal>	 in the Mumbai conference one of *the* best events was a quiz
[14:40:40] <Bodhisattwa>	 oh, ok, shall I undo it?
[14:40:59] <Titodutta>	 How are we chcking a person's personal grip and contribs on a topic?
[14:40:59] <Titodutta>	 What everyone knows (elephant in the house) is: People know this presentation IS a way to bypass everthing
[14:40:59] <Titodutta>	 You have a presentation slected, and you get travel, accomodation
[14:40:59] <Titodutta>	 All selection and other process bypassd
[14:41:06] <shyamal>	 no worries, check with Ravi ;)
[14:41:20] <Titodutta>	 Travel is not guaranteed though
[14:42:28] <Bodhisattwa>	 I am asking Netha to be the third reviewer for programme
[14:43:08] <Titodutta>	 ok
[14:43:44] <ravidreams>	 Tito, a selected presentation is no guarantee for travel
[14:44:10] <Titodutta>	 ya
[14:44:12] <ravidreams>	 But, I placed a request to the program team to recommend top presentations so we can try to bring them
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[14:44:24] <ravidreams>	 so that we don't have a conf where none of the presenters are able to travel :)
[14:44:42] <Titodutta>	 conf mea?
[14:44:51] <ravidreams>	 conference
[14:45:26] <ravidreams>	 shyamal: //we need some humorous talks and events too// It is precisely things like these that I want the team to iniate
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[14:51:30] <shyamal>	 I have just made a submission that I cannot evaluate ... :)
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[14:52:16] <Bodhisattwa>	 Netha joined the program evaluation team
[14:52:19] <ravidreams>	 We can have a third reviewer for such cases
[14:52:33] <Bodhisattwa>	 So, she is the third reviewer
[14:52:46] <shyamal>	 I am happy to run a quiz along with anyone else interested
[14:53:03] <Titodutta>	 Quiz about  Shyamal?
[14:53:15] <shyamal>	 Wikipedia Gyan
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[14:54:16] <shyamal>	 Satdeep, if the quiz is approved as an event please organize chocolates to toss to the audience for the answers
[14:54:52] <Satdeep>	 Not a problem..
[14:55:30] <Bodhisattwa>	 I will miss the chocolates
[14:55:36] <Bodhisattwa>	 :-(
[14:55:58] <ravidreams>	 I will want the quiz to cater to the familiarity level of all language wikimedians
[14:56:06] <ravidreams>	 enwiki is a different beast :)
[14:56:52] <shyamal>	 Yes, so please join the quiz-organizing team
[14:57:16] <ravidreams>	 haha
[14:58:15] <ravidreams>	 I am signing off for now
[14:58:22] <ravidreams>	 Will follow up the chat log for updates and questions
[14:58:48] <shyamal>	 Does anyone know the submitter of this proposal - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2016/Submissions/Improvement_of_Wikibook_and_PDF-rendering_features.
[14:59:36] <shyamal>	 Bodhisattwa, if we do not have any more to discuss as a group, I guess we can end this chat session
[15:00:42] <Bodhisattwa>	 yeah, no problem,
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[15:03:09] <shyamal>	 ok, bye for now
[15:03:20] <Titodutta>	 Bye
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