[00:00:04] <YairRand>	 is it at all likely that we're going to get to a point where items can handle having more then 30,000 statements without crashing any time soon?
[00:00:34] <YairRand>	 or at least several hundred?
[00:00:37] <hoo>	 30k? I totally doubt that
[00:01:17] <YairRand>	 that's going to really limit the types of data we can have
[00:01:22] <hoo>	 several hundred: I'm pretty confident we can have that in a few months time
[00:02:08] <YairRand>	 I don't really get what causes the crash in the first place. why is javascript necessary for setting up the display at all?
[00:02:30] <hoo>	 Long story...but we're currently moving away from that
[00:02:45] <YairRand>	 away from js setting up any display elements?
[00:02:48] <hoo>	 so there's going to be less client side formatting code and much more server side
[00:03:09] <YairRand>	 so why not 30k statements?
[00:03:10] <hoo>	 there will at any time still be quite a bit of JS for editing and whatever
[00:03:39] <YairRand>	 well, yes, but does that need to increase due to the number of statements?
[00:04:01] <hoo>	 Because the DOM tree that will create is almost unhandable, even if have a rather small amount of JS working on it
[00:04:49] <hoo>	 Sadly, I guess so, yes... for every thing that can be edited, JS needs to set something in place that edit mode actually starts when you click on things and stuff like that
[00:07:08] <hoo>	 YairRand: Maybe we'll have support for several ten thousand statements mid or long term... short term you will certainly be able to have several hundred without having to worry about browser performance
[00:08:48] <YairRand>	 the pile of data I added to the sandbox is readable with js disabled, but still not quite quick
[00:09:18] <hoo>	 YairRand: got a link?
[00:09:28] <YairRand>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4115189
[00:10:37] <hoo>	 YairRand: Actually loaded very quick for me in WebKit
[00:10:45] <hoo>	 with disabled JavaScript
[00:10:52] <YairRand>	 hmm
[00:11:27] <YairRand>	 kind of odd... the cursor style is pretty much the slowest thing to react.
[00:13:19] * YairRand  looks at the dom

[00:14:14] <YairRand>	 what's with the empty .wb-snak-property-container -s? they all have display: none;s. couldn't they just be not there?
[00:15:17] <hoo>	 I guess they're just in the html template... the editing JS might make use of them, can't tell at this time of the day (past 1am here)
[00:15:18] <YairRand>	 actually, maybe since I don't really know what I'm talking about, I shouldn't start complaining about random things that look wrong after a five-second glance.
[00:16:49] <hoo>	 we're always open for suggestions... and things obviously aren't perfect (we wouldn't have load time of 45s if things were fine...)
[00:17:16] <YairRand>	 .wb-snak-typeselector also doesn't seem to do anything.
[00:17:36] <hoo>	 that thing is certainly for the editing JS UI
[00:17:52] <YairRand>	 is the dom loading half the edit form immediately upon loading? that seems like a waste
[00:18:22] <hoo>	 that's actually something which we could probably generate in JS
[00:19:42] <YairRand>	 hopefully speeding up loading times
[00:20:52] <hoo>	 Yes... that's being worked on... but not by me (mostly doing client things)
[00:21:23] <YairRand>	 is there a bug somewhere I could whine about these things on?
[00:21:48] <hoo>	 Sure, one second
[00:22:46] <hoo>	 YairRand: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54098 that one links several other (more specific) bugs
[00:22:59] <YairRand>	 thanks
[00:23:59] <hoo>	 going to bed now.. it's past 1am here ;)
[00:24:59] <YairRand>	 'night :)
[07:43:36] <Schisma______>	 hi
[07:43:37] <Schisma______>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q14944010&diff=108900750&oldid=108900737
[07:44:09] <Schisma______>	 isn't it wrong? It was allready an instance of book
[07:44:21] <Schisma______>	 and instance is a subclass of creative work
[07:45:41] <Schisma______>	 so adding both is wrong isn't it?
[07:47:40] <YairRand>	 I would think so.
[07:48:00] <YairRand>	 perhaps you should ask User:Laddo if it was intentional.
[08:11:07] <Schisma______>	 Will try
[08:40:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Add selenium-based performance test trying to load Italy [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112861 
[08:46:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112861 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[09:09:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 031] [Browsertests] Fix ambigous step definition [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112692 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[09:53:06] <YairRand>	 huh, I'm surprised this actually worked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikidata/Wikidata_Sandbox
[10:00:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10: New Wikidata Build - 12/02/2014 10-00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112868 
[10:03:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112784 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[10:03:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112861 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[10:06:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [C: 032 V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112868 
[10:09:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 12/02/2014 10-00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112868 
[10:09:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112784 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[10:10:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112861 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[11:11:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Use the watch.ajax module to update the watchlist link (a star in the Vector skin) whenever something was edited. I tried to avoid useless A (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112464 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[11:29:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] [Browsertests] Fix ambigous step definition [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112692 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[11:44:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Avoid showing "null" in JavaScript tooltip for properties with no label. Introduce new utility function that returns plain text and use it where apropriate. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111222 
[11:47:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "That line in snakview.js looks like dead code to me (it's only called if adding a new property, therefor the variable "property" is always" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111222 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[11:50:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111222 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[12:02:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Browsertests for new build on beta had failures" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112868 
[12:05:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: [C: 032] Avoid showing "null" in JavaScript tooltip for properties with no label. Introduce new utility function that returns plain text and use it w [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111222 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[12:05:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Avoid showing "null" in JavaScript tooltip for properties with no label. Introduce new utility function that returns plain text and use it where apropriate. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111222 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[12:45:04] <Gabrielchihongle>	 Hi all
[12:45:13] <Gabrielchihongle>	 I am admin from wikivoyage
[12:45:20] <Gabrielchihongle>	 I would like to join wikidata
[12:45:21] <Gabrielchihongle>	 but HOW?
[12:45:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Browsertests for new build on beta had failures" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112868 
[12:56:09] <Gabrielchihongle>	 can anyone answer me?
[13:01:28] <whym_away>	 Gabrielchihongle: it's not clear to me what you mean by "join".
[13:01:39] <whym_away>	 to have an account?
[13:02:06] <Gabrielchihongle>	 yes
[13:02:07] <whym_away>	 or to connect certain article using Wikidata?
[13:02:25] <Gabrielchihongle>	 I have an account already
[13:02:34] <Gabrielchihongle>	 I want to know what may i help
[13:03:22] <whym_away>	 Gabrielchihongle: you are invited to connect a Wikivoyage page with other language versions or Wikipedia pages of the same topic.
[13:03:36] <Gabrielchihongle>	 good
[13:03:45] <Gabrielchihongle>	 but I found a problem...
[13:03:54] <Gabrielchihongle>	 let me make a snapshot to you, wait...
[13:07:33] <Gabrielchihongle>	 http://postimg.org/image/etbq2foh3/
[13:10:14] <whym_away>	 Gabrielchihongle: does copy-and-paste work?
[13:10:20] <Gabrielchihongle>	 no
[13:10:36] <whym_away>	 I mean, enter first it on notepad or something and then paste it to Wikidata?
[13:10:37] <Gabrielchihongle>	 I can't edit in google chrome or firefox with windows 8 32bit
[13:11:01] <Gabrielchihongle>	 fail
[13:11:21] <whym_away>	 do you have an IME enabled?
[13:11:47] <Gabrielchihongle>	 IME???
[13:12:28] <Gabrielchihongle>	 I should say that I could edit but not to add
[13:13:04] <whym_away>	 IME: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin_input_method and the like
[13:13:27] <whym_away>	 turning if off might help if you have
[13:13:56] <Gabrielchihongle>	 I did not use
[13:15:08] <Gabrielchihongle>	 =.=
[13:15:28] <Gabrielchihongle>	 (frustrated) maybe I can't add anymore
[13:16:59] <whym_away>	 Gabrielchihongle: can you add links instead of descriptions?
[13:17:15] <whym_away>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gabrielchihonglee indicates you were able.
[13:20:09] <whym_away>	 Gabrielchihongle: maybe try disabling the keyboard tool through the keyboard icon on the corner of the input box?
[13:32:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 04-1] Add selenium-based performance test trying to load Italy (038 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112861 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[13:36:30] <Gabrielchihongle>	 ???
[13:36:48] <Gabrielchihongle>	 able before
[13:36:49] <Gabrielchihongle>	 but not now
[13:42:57] <Gabrielchihongle>	 whym_away: trying
[13:48:32] <Gabrielchihongle>	 whym_away: failed
[13:49:05] <whym_away>	 Gabrielchihongle: no more idea from me
[13:49:16] <Gabrielchihongle>	 ok
[13:49:24] <Gabrielchihongle>	 trying to use ie
[13:50:06] <Gabrielchihongle>	 wow!
[13:50:16] <Gabrielchihongle>	 just sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[13:50:27] <Gabrielchihongle>	 I DID IT WITH IE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:50:35] <Gabrielchihongle>	 internet explorer!
[14:04:53] <github-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModel] 15addshore closed pull request #10: Bump 0.7 (06master...06bump0.7) 02http://git.io/ggWp_Q
[14:33:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS12) 10Addshore: Implement TimeParsers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111464 
[14:34:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Adrian Lang: Add selenium-based performance test trying to load Italy [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112861 
[14:39:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111464 (owner: 10Addshore)
[14:41:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Addshore: Remove clutter unused api debug/test settings [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112479 
[14:42:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS13) 10Addshore: Implement TimeParsers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111464 
[14:46:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112861 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[14:51:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112479 (owner: 10Addshore)
[14:56:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111464 (owner: 10Addshore)
[14:57:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS14) 10Addshore: Implement TimeParsers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111464 
[15:03:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111464 (owner: 10Addshore)
[15:10:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 04-1] Add selenium-based performance test trying to load Italy (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112861 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[15:34:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 04-2] "Any further work on this is pending a discussion item." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111464 (owner: 10Addshore)
[15:37:16] <Tobi_WMDE_>	 aude: how often is puppet running on wikidata-jenkins?
[15:41:23] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE_: no idea, but probably few times an hour
[15:43:10] <aude>	 The last Puppet run was at Wed Feb 12 12:13:33 UTC 2014 (209 minutes ago).
[15:52:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 04-1] Use correct options for GlobeCoordinateFormatter (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/110936 (owner: 10Adrian Lang)
[16:02:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: Use the watch.ajax module to update the watchlist link (a star in the Vector skin) whenever something was edited. I tried to avoid useless A (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112464 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[16:03:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Remove some outdated/ superfluous files [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111254 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[16:04:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: "Will change the commit message slightly to make WikidataJenkins run on this patch" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102496 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:04:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Addshore: Introducing WikiPageEntityStore [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102496 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:10:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102496 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:19:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 04-1] Refactor caching for EntityRevisionLookup service. (039 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107391 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:23:32] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/e4d4959 : Addshore The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/18738624
[16:27:37] <github-wmde>	 01[13ValueView01] 15tobijat pushed 2 new commits to 06master: 02http://git.io/lYLVPA
[16:27:37] <github-wmde>	 13ValueView/06master 148b5f74e 15snaterlicious: Improved $.ui.listrotator's RTL detection
[16:27:37] <github-wmde>	 13ValueView/06master 14a766a30 15Tobi Gritschacher: Merge pull request #22 from wmde/listrotatorrtl...
[16:28:50] <github-wmde>	 01[13ValueView01] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/QdDXiQ
[16:28:50] <github-wmde>	 13ValueView/06master 14c1be668 15Tobi Gritschacher: Update README.md
[16:29:27] <github-wmde>	 01[13ValueView01] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/8p6wwg
[16:29:27] <github-wmde>	 13ValueView/06master 140cfd9f3 15Tobi Gritschacher: Bump version 0.3.1
[16:29:46] <github-wmde>	 01[13ValueView01] 15tobijat tagged 060.3.1 at 06master: 02http://git.io/wPoWoA
[16:34:02] <github-wmde>	 01[13ValueView01] 15tobijat 04deleted 060.3 at 14a48aca8: 02http://git.io/pFAYSw
[17:01:22] <Tobi_WMDE_>	 aude: It doesn't seem to run, eg. the gitupdate.sh is not in srv/scripts although it is in wdjenkins/files since I pulled few hours ago 
[17:01:59] <Tobi_WMDE_>	 Automatic pulling isn't working either, probably because gitupdate.sh isn't where it should be.. 
[17:02:27] <aude>	 no idea why 
[17:03:14] <Tobi_WMDE_>	 If I run puppetd -tv it gives me errors 
[17:17:05] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE_: pull request
[17:27:47] <JeroenDeDauw>	 addshore: https://twitter.com/JeroenDeDauw/statuses/433653414963073024
[17:27:55] <JeroenDeDauw>	 addshore: y u no twitter acc?
[17:29:32] <addshore>	 pah, twitter is silly :>
[17:30:18] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: I say that application is perfect :D
[17:30:39] <JeroenDeDauw>	 DanielK_WMDE_: ^
[17:31:25] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 hehe
[17:31:45] <JohnLewis>	 JeroenDeDauw: Although; I recommend mentioning you teach Monkeys how to use computers so they can be WMF Security engineers :p
[17:32:19] <JohnLewis>	 (Disc. A joke :p Nothing bad about the WMF security engineers.. :p)
[17:36:25] <JeroenDeDauw>	 JohnLewis: :D
[19:25:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Bad auto-summary when using the "wblinktitles" API call. The call created summaries like "/* wblinktitles-connect:2| */nowiki:Berlin, enwiki:Berlin" which got rendered as "Added a language link to connect pages [↔$3]: nowiki:Berlin, enwiki:Berlin". Now th [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112933 
[19:27:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10John F. Lewis: Bad auto-summary when using the "wblinktitles" API call. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112933 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[19:27:19] <JohnLewis>	 Thiemo_WMDE: Sorry, OCD :p
[19:27:53] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 sorry?
[19:28:37] <JohnLewis>	 Thiemo_WMDE: New line between the title and commit description. Makes it look a) neater and b) only causes one line ot be reported by grrrit-wm
[19:28:37] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 whats OCD?
[19:29:01] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Ah, I see. I will keep this in mind. thanks.
[19:29:08] <JohnLewis>	 :)
[19:29:31] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: Cookie now? I technically made a patchset to Wikibase ;)
[19:29:49] * aude  gives cookie

[19:29:55] <JohnLewis>	 :D
[19:29:57] * Lydia_WMDE  pets JohnLewis

[19:29:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :P
[19:29:59] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 i think i owe you that cookie. ;)
[19:30:12] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Thiemo_WMDE: aude: go home! :)
[19:30:18] <aude>	 no!
[19:30:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yes yes
[19:30:28] <JohnLewis>	 Thiemo_WMDE: I'll have two. Lydia_WMDE never feeds me anymore after I started the Weekly summaries :p
[19:30:36] <Lydia_WMDE>	 awwww
[19:30:39] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 i submitted a patch! I'm happy to go home now. :)
[19:30:49] <hoo>	 aude: got a second
[19:30:51] <hoo>	 ?
[19:32:37] <hoo>	 mh :/
[19:32:51] <aude>	 hoo: ?
[19:32:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112933 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[19:33:20] <hoo>	 aude: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikibase-shortcopyrightwarning now links to a non-existing local page :/
[19:33:28] <aude>	 uh ho
[19:33:29] <aude>	 oh*
[19:34:05] <hoo>	 we would need to override it for all languages... or make it english only
[19:34:11] <hoo>	 :/
[19:34:14] <JohnLewis>	 PS1 fails and PS2 passes... See! Even WikidataJenkins want a new line! :p
[19:34:22] <hoo>	 Any better ideas than that?
[19:34:47] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 having "/* Xxx */Xxx" as a summary is bad, right? note the missing space.
[19:35:07] <hoo>	 Probably
[19:37:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112933 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[19:40:00] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 hoo: probably the best solution is to link to https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use no matter what the language is.
[19:40:36] <hoo>	 Thiemo_WMDE: But that's a Wikimedia specific page... so we can't do that in the software itself
[19:40:46] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 right.
[19:40:53] <hoo>	 and we also can't like override it in a nice way
[19:41:05] <hoo>	 aude: Or shall we make that a configuration var as well?
[19:41:16] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 there are 2 ways to override it. each requires like 200 edits for all languages.
[19:41:32] <aude>	 where does the link normally come from?
[19:41:43] <hoo>	 aude: hard coded in the message (yay)
[19:42:08] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 [[d:MediaWiki:copyrightpage]]
[19:42:18] <aude>	 oh, ok
[19:42:56] <aude>	 i see
[19:43:34] <aude>	 it needs to be configurable
[19:43:41] <hoo>	 +1
[19:43:53] <aude>	 we got rid of wikidata-specific stuff for a reason
[19:43:56] <hoo>	 Sounds nicer than overriding a billion messages
[19:44:56] <hoo>	 aude: Shall I restore https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikibase-shortcopyrightwarning for now unless we have proper fix (which we really should have in the next deploy)
[19:45:04] <aude>	 ok
[19:45:12] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 i think the solution for the shortcopyrightwarning and for https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/MediaWiki:Wikidata-copyright should be not different.
[19:45:44] <hoo>	 the Wikidata-* message are no longer used
[19:46:03] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 currently it is. at the bottom of each page.
[19:46:10] <aude>	 we still have wikidata-copyright
[19:46:16] <aude>	 it's horrible hack
[19:46:52] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 ok ;)
[19:47:04] <hoo>	 really? Yikes...
[19:48:27] <aude>	 hoo: it's not in  wikibase
[19:48:33] <aude>	 it's elsewhere
[19:48:38] <hoo>	 WikimediaMessages?
[19:48:44] <aude>	 yep
[19:48:47] <hoo>	 Restored the Wikidata MediaWiki: page, btw
[19:48:55] <aude>	 ok
[19:49:46] <aude>	 back later
[19:49:51] <hoo>	 ok :)
[20:13:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Bad auto-summary when using the "wblinktitles" API call [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112933 
[20:19:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112933 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[20:33:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Bad auto-summary when using the "wblinktitles" API call [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112933 
[20:39:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112933 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[20:42:10] <github-wmde>	 [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15Tpt opened pull request #17: Adds Claims support (06master...06Claims) 02http://git.io/b_xPCw
[21:42:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/113005 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[21:45:22] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/23e7c70 : Translation updater bot The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/18761433
[22:11:41] <github-wmde>	 01[13ValueView01] 15tobijat created 06bug45604 at 141cba162 (+0 new commits): 02http://git.io/0MmKAQ
[23:44:14] <YairRand>	 hm, is there anyone on Wikidata who has passed RfA without any knowledge of English?
[23:45:57] <JohnLewis>	 YairRand: Nope
[23:46:20] <JohnLewis>	 (Well none are currently admins that is)
[23:46:29] <YairRand>	 well, that is moderately worrying.
[23:47:37] <YairRand>	 are there any rough estimates as to what percentage of active wikimedians in general have en-1 or better?
[23:49:03] <YairRand>	 if en-0 users aren't reaching rfa due to something just being overlooked, that would be really annoying.