[00:06:24] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): (bug 62643) Split up ChangeOpFactory (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130051 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [00:23:50] (03CR) 10Aude: Fix handling of dates in format such as 1980x or 1980UTC (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130138 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [00:24:01] alright, waaay too late to be coding [02:07:08] I have a question, someone can help me? [02:30:03] DIanakc, if that was your question already, then the answer is "Maybe". [02:30:21] In case you have a followup question: Don't ask to ask. [02:31:41] Is possible to display ie birth of date from a person from WIkidata already? I want to display birth dates in a list [06:52:18] [13ValueView] 15adrianlang created 06toggleInputExtender (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/BnM9dA [06:52:18] 13ValueView/06toggleInputExtender 142b45e5b 15Adrian Lang: Make sure the input extender is always shown when value is not empty [06:52:50] [13ValueView] 15adrianlang opened pull request #50: Make sure the input extender is always shown when value is not empty (06master...06toggleInputExtender) 02http://git.io/OlF3Og [07:11:18] (03CR) 10Henning Snater: "Leaving a zombie node in the DOM is the most clean way?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/123298 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [07:34:44] [13WikibaseQuery] 15adrianlang 04force-pushed 06snakview from 14be1e7ee to 1411fcaf0: 02http://git.io/29CD-Q [07:34:45] 13WikibaseQuery/06snakview 1411fcaf0 15Adrian Lang: Address review [09:03:08] hi there [09:03:20] any one running map reduce on python? [09:38:43] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Hey, come on, be fair. Right now there are 110 DOM nodes on a random Wikidata page that are not visible. Do you plan to remove them all an" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/123298 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [09:42:12] (03PS6) 10Aude: Fix handling of dates in format such as 1980x or 1980UTC [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130138 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) [09:42:28] (03PS7) 10Aude: Fix handling of dates in format such as 1980x or 1980UTC [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130138 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) [09:45:29] Thiemo_WMDE: ping [09:45:35] pong [09:48:36] (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 26/04/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129882 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [09:48:38] (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 27/04/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129941 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [09:48:52] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130138 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [09:49:00] (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: New Wikidata Build - 28/04/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130053 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [09:49:58] DanielK_WMDE__: please review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/129168/ [09:51:46] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 031] Handle localised dates (e.g. 'century') more consistently [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130236 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [09:52:18] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130138 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [10:00:25] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 29/04/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130303 [10:09:29] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130303 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:12:11] it's an addshore! [10:25:34] (03PS1) 10Aude: Add more time parser test cases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130305 [10:31:11] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130305 (owner: 10Aude) [10:40:46] food? [10:40:57] yes [10:42:58] fooood! [10:43:43] where? [10:44:34] somewhere outside [10:52:54] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 29/04/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130303 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [11:25:57] Hey everyone. I've got a weird thing. When i try to run my bot from my desktop it runs fine, however, when i try it from my server i'm getting "blocked: You have been blocked from editing" errors [11:26:20] As far as i know my server IP has not been blocked... [11:27:35] huskyr: what about auth? [11:27:42] are you using the same account in both cases? [11:27:56] lazowik: jep [11:28:17] i'm using the exact same set of files [11:28:22] hmm [11:28:53] maybe try to add some debug output [11:28:56] i've used the bot before from this ip, so i'm not quite sure what has changed [11:29:23] lazowik: there's any debug flag i can try? [11:30:44] huskyr, what is your server IP if I may ask? [11:31:19] Jurgen: 92.63.173.50 [11:32:50] Meh, weird [11:33:37] Jurgen: it's not that the range is blocked? [11:33:49] Nope [11:34:02] That should how up here as well https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:BlockList/92.63.173.50 [11:34:37] huskyr: I thought rather on debug from your side [11:34:49] e.g. ask the api as who are you logged in [11:34:56] maybe something changed on the server? [11:35:08] some libs, firewall rules, whatever [11:36:56] lazowik, Jurgen: so here's the weird thing: i've just ran the bot on Commons, no problems at all there. The thing runs on the same account from my desktop on nl.wiki, no problem there as well. It only fails when i try to edit nl.wiki from my server. [11:37:14] ah, nl.wiki [11:37:19] this is wikidata channel :p [11:37:20] lazowik: ah.. :) [11:37:32] ah, damned sorry :) [11:37:41] i thought i was chatting in #pywikipediabot [11:37:49] :D [11:38:05] nine channels open at the same time might be a little confusing [11:38:34] I'll try again there [11:39:12] 9 isn't so much... [12:02:47] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130303 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [12:06:28] Thiemo_WMDE: I added the video call [12:06:50] where? [12:09:41] Thiemo_WMDE: Lydia_WMDE shares the screen [12:18:07] Tobi_WMDE: 7 points. plus extra for a possible cleanup script. [12:19:05] Lydia_WMDE: does this reach the projector? ;) [12:19:14] no. ;) [12:29:25] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] Fix handling of dates in format such as 1980x or 1980UTC [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130138 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [12:30:32] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "I always tend to lose my comments in outdated patch sets. Sorry, here it is." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130138 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [12:54:00] Thiemo_WMDE: how much points for quantity DV handler? [12:54:12] and how much points for globe DV handler? [12:58:15] Tobi_WMDE: quantity 8, globe 13. [13:01:22] DanielK_WMDE__: simple query for coordinates should be a radius, not a bounding box. [13:02:37] DanielK_WMDE__: it's possible to squish lat+long in a single number but querying this will not be efficient with standard sql indices. [13:10:39] DanielK_WMDE__: you are aware that querying coordinates in an efficient way is a solved problem? there are data structures (think off binary trees) and databases for such tasks. [13:26:25] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/ZGdhaQ [13:26:25] 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 1423ca991 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update Aliases.php [13:30:25] (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Reorder data types [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130335 [13:32:29] Thiemo_WMDE: yes, i know. the idea is to cover them as best as we can using our baseline technology stack (vanilla mysql). which means using a naive bounding box. [13:32:50] later we can use postGis or the geo support provided by ElasicSearch or whatever [13:32:52] (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Add monolingual-text data type to experimental features [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130337 [13:33:36] sure, start simple. but even a simple bounding box needs two values in our searchable index, right? [13:34:00] Thiemo_WMDE: four. min/max of lan/lat [13:34:31] Thiemo_WMDE: plus the "main" value for lang/lat. Here's the spec: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_QueryEngine/SQL_schema_proposal#wbq_.3Crole.3E_geo [13:34:34] (03PS2) 10Aude: Add more time parser test cases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130305 [13:34:36] (03PS8) 10Aude: Fix handling of dates in format such as 1980x or 1980UTC [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130138 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) [13:34:43] bah. to complicated. [13:34:48] :P [13:35:05] make everything a point. it's "simple" query you know. [13:36:00] (03CR) 10Aude: Fix handling of dates in format such as 1980x or 1980UTC (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130138 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [13:36:02] its not a 2d plattformer. i actually implemented exactly that intersecting boxes stuff in a plattformer. ;) [13:37:12] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130335 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:37:20] (03PS1) 10Aude: Use data-values/time 0.5.2, fix for year time parsing [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130338 [13:37:22] (03PS1) 10Aude: Set precision in MWTimeIsoParser [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130339 [13:37:24] (03PS1) 10Aude: Add test cases for year time parsing [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130340 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64537) [13:42:56] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130337 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:45:03] hi. Is there a page in wikidata which shows why P592 with value "CHEMBL515" generates a link to https://www.ebi.ac.uk/chembl/compound/inspect/CHEMBL515 ? [13:45:33] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] "I have CDO - it's like OCD, but with the letters in nice alphabetical order, as they should be!" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130335 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:45:59] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P592 only shows "Data type String" about type [13:46:42] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Reorder data types [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130335 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:46:55] Lockal: it's an identifier and is handled as a string [13:47:28] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] Add monolingual-text data type to experimental features (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130337 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:48:35] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ListDatatypes [13:49:03] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130305 (owner: 10Aude) [13:50:25] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Add monolingual-text data type to experimental features (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130337 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:51:18] aude: ok, then why https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q415939 shows hyperlinks for almost every property? [13:54:02] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130138 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [13:54:53] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] Factor out generation of site links HTML into own class (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129122 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:55:51] DanielK_WMDE__: I'm totally blaming you for the database error in QueryEngine ;p [13:58:42] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130338 (owner: 10Aude) [13:59:44] Lockal: there's a gadget that does that.. authority control [14:00:17] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tools/Gadgets#AuthorityControl.js [14:01:34] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Use data-values/time 0.5.2, fix for year time parsing [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130338 (owner: 10Aude) [14:01:59] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use data-values/time 0.5.2, fix for year time parsing [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130338 (owner: 10Aude) [14:02:42] Thiemo_WMDE: what was the patch you mentioned during the daily? you have quite a few patches open i see [14:02:57] DanielK_WMDE__: ... mom [14:03:03] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130339 (owner: 10Aude) [14:03:07] DanielK_WMDE__: i sent you an email. [14:03:27] aude: thank you! [14:04:07] DanielK_WMDE__: want to review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/130236/ ? [14:04:19] and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/130138/ [14:04:36] bit icky regressions [14:04:56] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Set precision in MWTimeIsoParser [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130339 (owner: 10Aude) [14:05:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Set precision in MWTimeIsoParser [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130339 (owner: 10Aude) [14:06:02] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 031] "I see no obvious issues, but I'm not sure this is The Right Thing." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119973 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:06:17] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130340 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64537) (owner: 10Aude) [14:06:42] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Just curious, was there a technical reason or just because of alphabet?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130335 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [14:08:28] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Refactor type checks in EntityId formatters [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129168 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:08:48] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Refactor type checks in EntityId formatters [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129168 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:15:07] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/91c0ba9 : Adrian Lang The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24017428 [14:19:59] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 031] "makes sense to me" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/123092 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:21:48] (03PS1) 10Aude: Make WikiPageEntityLookup more robust with attempt to load from DB_MASTER [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130350 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62547) [14:21:53] (03PS1) 10Aude: Fix EntityId class name references in WikiPageEntityLookup [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130351 [14:21:59] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Add test cases for year time parsing [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130340 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64537) (owner: 10Aude) [14:23:08] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "missing escaping" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126720 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62904) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:23:40] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add test cases for year time parsing [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130340 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64537) (owner: 10Aude) [14:28:14] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/mw1.24-wmf2/c7be18e : aude The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24018675 [14:28:23] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130350 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62547) (owner: 10Aude) [14:31:59] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130351 (owner: 10Aude) [14:35:26] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Make WikiPageEntityLookup more robust with attempt to load from DB_MASTER (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130350 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62547) (owner: 10Aude) [14:36:06] (03PS3) 10Aude: Add more time parser test cases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130305 [14:36:53] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/mw1.24-wmf2/cb61712 : aude The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24018860 [14:38:48] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "same issue exists for the page table, please fix this too, while you are at it." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130350 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62547) (owner: 10Aude) [14:41:28] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130305 (owner: 10Aude) [14:43:59] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/05b9206 : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24019137 [14:47:35] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] Add more time parser test cases (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130305 (owner: 10Aude) [14:52:49] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 031] Add more time parser test cases (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130305 (owner: 10Aude) [14:53:11] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/mw1.24-wmf2/865a2ec : aude The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24020223 [14:56:59] (03PS1) 10Aude: New deployment build, fixes for various input parsing issues [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130358 [14:57:02] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] New deployment build, fixes for various input parsing issues [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130358 (owner: 10Aude) [14:57:39] arrrr.... no can merge [14:58:50] (03PS2) 10Aude: New deployment build, fixes for various input parsing issues [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130358 [14:58:52] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] New deployment build, fixes for various input parsing issues [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130358 (owner: 10Aude) [14:58:58] aaaaa [14:59:03] :( [14:59:17] why are there conflicts? [14:59:30] probably because hoo made a new build after the original one i made [14:59:48] hm [15:01:05] (03PS9) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 62643) Split up ChangeOpFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130051 [15:01:22] (03PS1) 10Aude: New deployment build, fixes for various time parsing issues [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130359 [15:01:32] (03Abandoned) 10Aude: New deployment build, fixes for various input parsing issues [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130358 (owner: 10Aude) [15:01:49] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "PS9 addresses comments to PS8." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130051 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [15:01:58] there are still a few patches i'd like in sometime soonish, but suppose not blocker [15:02:29] just dates like '1980x' will say precision higher than DAY not supported and then people will complain [15:03:04] aude: also just 'x' will say that.. [15:03:33] Tobi_WMDE: also if you don't mind, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/130350/ should be cherrypicked so exception logs are cleaned [15:03:35] or 'i' [15:03:40] ooo [15:03:46] or a lot of other chars [15:03:58] almost every char [15:04:08] :( [15:04:21] that's what I mentioned in the daily [15:04:26] ? [15:04:50] I mentioned that not only 1980x will cuase this message but also just "x" [15:05:00] as a hack, i could also force TimeValue to have precision of day [15:05:13] anyway, looking [15:05:13] everything that makes sense to the php DateTime object [15:05:18] I think [15:05:27] (03PS2) 10Aude: Make WikiPageEntityLookup more robust with attempt to load from DB_MASTER [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130350 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62547) [15:05:29] (03PS2) 10Aude: Fix EntityId class name references in WikiPageEntityLookup [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130351 [15:05:41] more test cases [15:08:30] aude: I'm not the right one to review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/130350 [15:08:56] but if it is merged, I don't mind backporting it [15:09:28] for not flooding the logs anymore [15:09:43] ok [15:09:54] makes it easier to find actual problems when there is less noise [15:21:16] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Make WikiPageEntityLookup more robust with attempt to load from DB_MASTER [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130350 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62547) (owner: 10Aude) [15:21:34] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make WikiPageEntityLookup more robust with attempt to load from DB_MASTER [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130350 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62547) (owner: 10Aude) [15:21:57] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Fix EntityId class name references in WikiPageEntityLookup [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130351 (owner: 10Aude) [15:22:15] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix EntityId class name references in WikiPageEntityLookup [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130351 (owner: 10Aude) [15:29:32] (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Stop throwing fatal errors in CommonsLinkFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126720 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62904) [15:36:35] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Fix handling of dates in format such as 1980x or 1980UTC [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130138 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [15:36:56] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix handling of dates in format such as 1980x or 1980UTC [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130138 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [15:37:18] thanks [15:37:33] shall be a follow up for input like 'x' and trimming [15:40:10] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Add more time parser test cases (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130305 (owner: 10Aude) [15:40:29] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add more time parser test cases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130305 (owner: 10Aude) [15:48:47] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "jenkins-bot approves. wikidata jenkins fails because of unrelated error in fetching from gerrit." [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130359 (owner: 10Aude) [15:52:26] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/82f3ae2 : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24025669 [15:53:37] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New deployment build, fixes for various time parsing issues [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130359 (owner: 10Aude) [15:59:30] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/8ab35de : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24025710 [16:08:17] wikidata jenkins is taking ~1 hour for tests [16:08:45] wonder why so slow, when jenkins-bot ran wikidata build tests rather quick [16:09:24] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/d38cb52 : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24027003 [16:13:34] haha, dbal had #over9000 installs today https://packagist.org/packages/doctrine/dbal [16:13:39] So it has a few users [16:14:08] 361 public Composer refs [16:20:18] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/e5a9195 : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24027283 [16:34:41] (03PS1) 10Aude: Disallow DateTime parsing of strings without digits [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130376 [16:35:04] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Disallow DateTime parsing of strings without digits [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130376 (owner: 10Aude) [16:36:10] (03PS2) 10Aude: Disallow DateTime parsing of strings without digits [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130376 [16:37:59] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130358 (owner: 10Aude) [16:40:16] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130051 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [16:44:58] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130350 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62547) (owner: 10Aude) [16:46:06] DanielK_WMDE__: heh... looks like you where right, we are still running on PHP 5.3 [16:46:09] wtf [16:46:23] * JeroenDeDauw wonders if we switched back or something [16:49:43] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130351 (owner: 10Aude) [16:52:10] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130358 (owner: 10Aude) [16:54:01] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126720 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62904) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [16:55:33] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130376 (owner: 10Aude) [16:58:53] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130376 (owner: 10Aude) [17:00:44] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130359 (owner: 10Aude) [17:09:33] (03PS10) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 62643) Split up ChangeOpFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130051 [17:10:22] (03PS11) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 62643) Split up ChangeOpFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130051 [17:12:48] (03PS7) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 62643) Move term validation into ChangeOps [WIP] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124835 [17:13:09] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "PS7 is a rebase, but incomplete/broken." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124835 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:13:11] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 62643) Move term validation into ChangeOps [WIP] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124835 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:16:58] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130051 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:21:48] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130051 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:23:00] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124835 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:24:37] (03PS8) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 62643) Move term validation into ChangeOps [WIP] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124835 [17:24:57] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "PS8 restores some files that got lost during rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124835 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:25:00] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 62643) Move term validation into ChangeOps [WIP] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124835 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:28:02] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124835 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:29:20] (03PS4) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Stop throwing fatal errors in CommonsLinkFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126720 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62904) [17:32:09] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Handle localised dates (e.g. 'century') more consistently [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130236 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [17:32:20] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Handle localised dates (e.g. 'century') more consistently [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130236 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [17:34:52] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126720 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62904) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [17:39:00] DanielK_WMDE__: ping [18:24:30] Lydia_WMDE: we've deployed [18:24:40] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_deployment#mw1.24wmf2 are changes of note [18:25:53] aude: thanks :) [18:27:41] we'll deploy a few follow up fixes for time, but the precision one is fixed [18:31:03] (03PS2) 10Aude: Handle localised dates (e.g. 'century') more consistently [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130236 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) [18:31:30] (03CR) 10Aude: "patchset 2 is rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130236 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [18:33:17] (03PS1) 10Aude: Make WikiPageEntityLookup more robust with attempt to load from DB_MASTER [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130415 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62547) [18:33:31] (03PS1) 10Aude: Fix handling of dates in format such as 1980x or 1980UTC [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130416 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) [18:38:13] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130236 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [18:43:04] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130415 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62547) (owner: 10Aude) [18:45:07] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Make WikiPageEntityLookup more robust with attempt to load from DB_MASTER [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130415 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62547) (owner: 10Aude) [18:45:33] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make WikiPageEntityLookup more robust with attempt to load from DB_MASTER [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130415 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62547) (owner: 10Aude) [18:46:26] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130416 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [18:46:53] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Fix handling of dates in format such as 1980x or 1980UTC [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130416 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [18:47:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix handling of dates in format such as 1980x or 1980UTC [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130416 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [18:48:42] (03PS9) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 62643) Move term validation into ChangeOps [WIP] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124835 [18:52:10] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124835 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [18:54:57] (03PS12) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 62643) Split up ChangeOpFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130051 [18:56:51] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Stop throwing fatal errors in CommonsLinkFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126720 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62904) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [18:57:09] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Stop throwing fatal errors in CommonsLinkFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126720 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62904) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [18:58:29] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] "Again?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130236 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [19:00:17] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Handle localised dates (e.g. 'century') more consistently [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130236 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [19:00:22] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130051 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [19:05:14] (03PS10) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 62643) Move term validation into ChangeOps [WIP] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124835 [19:07:08] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/mw1.24-wmf2/730fe77 : aude The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24041490 [19:08:46] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124835 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [19:12:39] (03PS1) 10Aude: Handle localised dates (e.g. 'century') more consistently [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130426 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) [19:14:46] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/mw1.24-wmf2/4b6d493 : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24041623 [19:17:59] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130426 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [19:21:20] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Handle localised dates (e.g. 'century') more consistently [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130426 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [19:21:40] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Handle localised dates (e.g. 'century') more consistently [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130426 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: 10Aude) [19:37:56] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/cdcb642 : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24042754 [19:41:50] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/mw1.24-wmf2/e9fc2bc : aude The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24044361 [19:44:16] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130468 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [19:54:49] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/9790046 : Translation updater bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24045573 [19:57:13] I think that there are too many bots here [19:57:43] since all this github-travis-wikidatajenkins thing [19:57:48] wahtever happend [19:58:48] JeroenDeDauw ^ :p [19:58:59] and for seriousness Lydia_WMDE ^ :p [19:59:18] well, we need to fix travis [19:59:54] lazowik: feel free to put them on your ignore list. and yeah as aude says we need to fix travis asap [20:00:19] w00t [20:00:23] ignore list! [20:00:29] :P [20:00:40] I didin't even know that something like this exists :p [20:00:42] <3 irc for having that [20:00:54] but still [20:01:06] if someone goes here to ask a question [20:01:12] Lydia_WMDE: I felt like putting *!*@* on my ignore list but... :p [20:01:26] lol [20:01:37] and just after entering is greeted by: [20:01:41] grrrit-wm [20:01:41] (PS12) Daniel Kinzler: (bug 62643) Split up ChangeOpFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130051 [20:01:41] grrrit-wm [20:01:43] (CR) Daniel Kinzler: [C: 2] Stop throwing fatal errors in CommonsLinkFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126720 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62904) (owner: Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [20:01:45] grrrit-wm [20:01:47] (Merged) jenkins-bot: Stop throwing fatal errors in CommonsLinkFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/126720 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62904) (owner: Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [20:01:49] grrrit-wm [20:01:51] (CR) Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 2] "Again?" [extensions/Wikibase] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130236 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64558) (owner: Aude) [20:01:53] it's not nice [20:01:55] oooops, sorry for pinging probably [20:02:05] :) [20:02:11] fair enough [20:02:13] lazowik: Not on the nice note - please don't you know :) [20:02:17] we can move them to another channel [20:02:23] *On the nice [20:02:37] Lydia_WMDE: #wikidata-devs :p [20:02:52] no - internal one [20:03:03] no? [20:03:14] What aude said. [20:03:18] i don't want a separate dev channel [20:03:31] not all devs are internal [20:03:40] that wouldn't be reasonable, imho [20:04:15] but there's too less activity for split [20:04:29] the normal one would be probably dead silent [20:04:44] lazowik: Correct :p [20:04:45] hope not, but agree [20:04:46] t is also a bad idea to split dev and community [20:04:49] i don't want t [20:04:51] agree [20:04:57] *that [20:04:58] yup [20:04:58] then keep the bots :) [20:05:01] :D [20:05:02] fix travis [20:05:06] add more bots! [20:05:12] ignore them if you don't like them [20:05:12] make traffic! [20:05:15] wth is going on with my keyboard... [20:05:36] deleting random stuff -.- [20:05:53] pff [20:06:14] ikidata [20:06:18] grmany [20:06:28] aaaaaanyway - time to watch some hannibal [20:06:30] laters :) [20:06:33] bye [20:06:53] lazowik: Seems to have deleted the i out of your nick :p [20:06:55] Lydia_WMDE: Cya [20:07:48] JohnLewis: wat? [20:08:13] lazowik: You know, lazowiki instead of lazowik :) [20:08:19] :D [20:08:22] :D :D :D [20:08:28] never thought of that :D [20:08:51] JohnLewis: in polish lazowiki is actually plural form of lazowik :p [20:09:16] hmm [20:09:20] lazowikidata [20:09:37] that's how I'm going to name my local wiki [20:10:25] JohnLewis: thanks :p [20:11:06] any admin around? [20:11:26] tommorris: Yes? [20:11:32] mind if I /msg you? [20:11:35] Sure [20:11:40] http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ [20:16:45] (03PS1) 10Aude: New deployment build, more bug fixes for time parsing and fix exception [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130477 [20:17:10] ignore the bot [20:18:00] aude: What bot? ;) [20:19:13] heh [20:25:59] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130477 (owner: 10Aude) [20:27:53] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] New deployment build, more bug fixes for time parsing and fix exception [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130477 (owner: 10Aude) [20:32:44] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New deployment build, more bug fixes for time parsing and fix exception [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130477 (owner: 10Aude) [20:37:43] Lydia_WMDE: yeah... that's what happens if tests break all the time, people start ignoring it [20:37:51] At which point the tests become pointless [20:38:21] JeroenDeDauw: which is why fixing them is high prio [20:38:42] i think it is even marked critical in bugzilla [20:50:03] Lydia_WMDE: you do realize they have been failing for months right? [20:50:11] Lydia_WMDE: probably over half a year [20:50:23] Lydia_WMDE: I complained about it at some point, that it had been failing for weeks [20:50:26] And then people did stuff [20:50:33] the wikibase master tests on travis? [20:50:37] Yeah [20:50:47] we fixed them a couple of times this year [20:50:57] but every now and then they break and then nobody fixes them [20:51:09] That is really not acceptable [20:51:12] currently for like two weeks or so... prior to that, they briefly worked [20:51:23] I already complained, but well :S [20:52:04] If I see something like that in a project, I take it as an indicator of unprofessional behaviour and likelyhood of other stuff also being messed up [20:52:18] So my confidence in Wikibase.git goes down even further [20:53:09] Doctrine DBAL has 3 failing tests on master when running them without any options :<0 [20:53:19] it might help to make the travis tests more visible somehow. though a flood of emails would probably not be helpful. [20:53:39] DanielK_WMDE__: you can config this in .travis.yml [20:53:43] Lydia_WMDE: perhaps the travis status should be a routine item for sprint start meetings [20:53:45] I am getting email notificaitons [20:54:04] It should not fail [20:54:06] JeroenDeDauw: i'm getting TOO MANY email notifications. [20:54:19] DanielK_WMDE__: filters [20:54:38] DanielK_WMDE__: also, not just email [20:54:43] look at the config docs [20:54:55] travis was fixed 24 days ago and the broke again during holiday :( [20:54:56] JeroenDeDauw: i don't even recall which of the various travis accounts i should be looking at. the status on https://travis-ci.org/wmde/Wikibase seems to be 3 months old [20:55:04] DanielK_WMDE__: now making it more visible is rather counter to hiding the notifications here - Lydia_WMDE [20:55:24] DanielK_WMDE__: https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds [20:55:29] the irc notifications are helpful [20:55:47] yes, so can we please not hide the notifications [20:55:48] DanielK_WMDE__: ah, crap [20:55:49] aude: if there are not too many [20:55:49] and fix the tests? [20:55:59] If there are to many, you are doing something wrong [20:56:04] And should stop doing it wrong [20:56:09] DanielK_WMDE__: The failures are caused by WikibaseClient being insane [20:56:10] JeroenDeDauw: that's what i've been saying, no? [20:56:16] <^d> DanielK_WMDE__! [20:56:19] <^d> I finally found you! [20:56:26] <^d> pp_sortkey is live everywhere :) [20:56:27] * aude rage! [20:56:44] DanielK_WMDE__: How bad would you consider a flag to reset WikibaseClient's default instance? [20:56:52] That would fix the unit tests, I guess [20:57:01] JeroenDeDauw: i just told one person who does not need them that they can ignore them. it is perfectly fine if they do [20:57:03] ^d: yea, i saw it! yay! now, we just have to start making use of it :) [20:57:04] I already had a patch, but was not sure about it... might fix travis [20:57:41] ^d: also, Thiemo_WMDE found an issue with ParserOutput::setProperty being underspecified. the question is - is the value always is atring? if so, pp_sortkey will do nothing. [20:58:43] hoo: maybe just a static function? WikibaseClient::resetDefaultInstance() [20:58:55] should probably fail if called in production [20:58:59] DanielK_WMDE__: Thought about a param. to getDefaultInstance [20:59:09] hoo: yea, but a separate function seems nicer to me. [20:59:10] but am fine with anything, as long as we can agree on a thing [20:59:13] ok [20:59:20] Lydia_WMDE: I thought you meant an irc channel ignore thinghy [20:59:26] <^d> DanielK_WMDE__: Thiemo_WMDE is probably right. [20:59:30] no [20:59:33] <^d> A followup wouldn't be unwise. [20:59:40] Lydia_WMDE: "lydia says no" [20:59:44] uh, still here, whats wrong? [20:59:48] indeed ;-) [20:59:55] <^d> Thiemo_WMDE: Your point about strings in pp_sortkey [20:59:57] Thiemo_WMDE: not enough kittens [21:00:04] <^d> Too many kittens [21:00:08] ^d: please add your 2¢ to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/126254/ [21:00:10] [travis-ci] filbertkm/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/cdcb642 : jenkins-bot The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/filbertkm/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24050487 [21:00:12] impossible! [21:00:29] anyway - back to hannibal [21:00:32] laters [21:00:36] gah, my github is reporting here [21:01:28] hoo: the issue is with a cached site list? [21:01:42] there are multiple issues [21:01:47] i wonder why that only happens in travis. order of execution once more, i guess. [21:02:05] DanielK_WMDE__: Nah, the "1) LuaStandalone: LuaWikibaseEntityLibraryTests[21]: mw.wikibase.entity.formatPropertyValues integration 1 [21:02:05] <^d> DanielK_WMDE__: /me hides [21:02:05] DBConnectionError: DB connection error: Unknown database 'repo' (localhost)" [21:02:08] <^d> So confusing! [21:02:26] that happens because unmocked stuff gets cached in WikibaseClient's default instance (I presume) [21:02:28] that one happens for me if i run --group Wikibase in client [21:02:38] and set my repodatabase setting to something bogus [21:02:51] if i point phpunit to client or lib directory, it's fine [21:03:03] hoo: oh... https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/jobs/24045574 shows a failure in LuaWikibaseEntityLibraryTests [21:03:16] DanielK_WMDE__: That's what I'm talking about [21:03:16] it's trying to access the repo database. that shouldn't happen. [21:03:23] right [21:03:25] that's those bad in process caching [21:03:45] pointing to just the scribunto or client directory, those tests pass [21:03:46] hoo: i was talking about the "undefined index" in https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/jobs/24045575 [21:03:54] (with bogus repo db name) [21:04:21] hoo: evil global state is evil :) [21:04:52] we could just disable in-process caching if PHPUNIT_ehatever is defined, but that might hide issues [21:04:57] DanielK_WMDE__: Oh, no idea about the indices [21:05:01] evil [21:05:12] DanielK_WMDE__: Nah, JeroenDeDauw disliked that [21:05:18] and I'm also not a fan [21:05:34] niether am i. just saying: it's an option. [21:06:06] (03CR) 10Aude: "i still get "DBConnectionError: DB connection error: Unknown database 'testrepo2' (127.0.0.1)" test failure even with this patch" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129457 (owner: 10Hoo man) [21:06:32] aude: that version is an incomplete thing [21:07:33] hoo: I dislike having the caching happen in the factory much more to be honest [21:08:03] not sure we can completely cut it w/o killing performance [21:08:32] Not saying we should not have caching at all, just that how this is done now is not good [21:08:56] how should it be dine? [21:08:58] * done [21:11:14] JeroenDeDauw: ^ [21:15:43] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/dbal/26343c9 : jeroendedauw The build failed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/24052247 [21:21:28] JeroenDeDauw: ^ if you don't reply, I'll just implement a reset default instance function for WikibaseClient [21:23:18] hoo: I'd need to look at the code to figure out how to best migrate to something nicer [21:23:23] I don't have the time for that now [21:23:36] I don't strongly object to doing a reset thing [21:23:52] Ok, will do that then... hopefully it fixes the tests [21:25:04] hoo it appears to [21:25:28] ok [21:25:30] great :) [21:26:28] even making WikibaseClient::newInstance() accessible [21:26:41] mh? [21:26:42] then in Scribunto_LuaWikibaseEntityLibrary.php [21:26:51] if in MW_PHPUNIT, then use that [21:27:31] god, no [21:27:43] ? [21:27:53] don't mix unit test code with production code, if there's no reason to [21:28:32] where would we do reset? [21:28:47] aude: Just wait for my patch, I guess [21:28:56] ok [21:28:58] propbably faster than doing it + explaining it once again [21:29:58] the tests derive from LuaEngineTestBase [21:30:24] which is in scribunto [21:32:15] aude: I know, I know [21:32:19] ok [21:32:28] just wondering how to reset the static variable in that function from another function [21:32:44] guess that's not possible [21:40:33] (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Allow reseting WikibaseClient's default instance [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129457 [21:40:36] aude: ^ [21:40:42] that's the best I could come up with [21:45:51] is Scribunto_LuaWikibaseLibraryTestCase even invoked for LuaWikibaseLibraryTest ? [21:46:04] i'm not quite sure how those get invoked [21:46:17] that's a little complicated, but yes [21:46:33] quick question : do you think it's a bad thing to show a reasonator link together with the showcase items in the dedicated page ? [21:47:06] this page is awful and really anti user friendly, yet I have been reverted [21:47:35] we want to kill this project for non technical users [21:50:26] TomT0m: Mind re saying what you just did now EmperorOfChina is here? [21:51:34] JohnLewis, EmperorOfChina I asked a question to the channel : how is it bad to use Q' in shocase item pages ? [21:51:36] hmmm, i even worked on Scribunto_LuaWikibaseLibraryTest which is where they are registered [21:52:09] ajr may know [21:52:14] TomT0m: and I answered at the page. [21:53:03] JohnLewis, I replied, and I'm not convinced. As I think it is important, I seek support (or not) [21:53:18] maybe I should try project chat [21:53:35] EmperorOfChina will echo forum shopping. [21:54:21] JohnLewis, this is obviously really wrong ... [21:54:46] how did we came to that point again ? [21:55:51] The whole Wikidata vs. Reasonator has got to stop. Yes, Reasonator has a better UI than Wikidata, so what? Reasonator is an external design, nothing related to Wikidata. Wikdiata is working on a new UI and we should be looking to that and focus on feedback rather than going 'Use Reasonator'. Reasonator should be seen as a nice 3rd view, not the forced 'new Wikidata design'. [21:56:20] JohnLewis, It's just an additional link [21:56:34] haha, PHPUnit itself has 3 errors on master :D [21:56:39] Isn't Reasonator inherently supplemental, as a tool based on Wikidata? [21:56:39] JohnLewis, you're overdoing it [21:57:02] TomT0m: I'm not really overdoing it. [21:58:03] JohnLewis, "This has to stop", I asked twice the question, seems only a few people amdin like you heard and decided it was a bad idea and decided you were right [21:58:07] If people really wanted Reasonator to be displayed everywhere - the implement reasonator into {{Q}} would have been a successful proposal, but it wasn't. So because of it, don't start going changing every use of {{Q}} to {{Q'}} just ot make up for failed proposals. [21:58:17] JohnLewis, it's not like we launched a RfC [21:58:37] There was a very heavy discussed PC thread about it. [21:58:37] James_F, we must have 3 people in eache discussions [21:59:20] mh, grrrit-wm has gone :( [21:59:39] interesting rule, but we are 3 :) [21:59:58] JohnLewis, what were the conclusion ? not in every cases, but sometimes maybe not, here I discuss such a possibility for showcase items [22:00:14] EmperorOfChina, we can ask harej :) [22:00:22] (03CR) 10Hoo man: Check the content model of pages in EntityPerPageBuilder (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 (owner: 10Hoo man) [22:00:28] I am the font of wisdom. [22:00:48] I really don't understand "yes, it is better and users could like it and get crushed to Wikidata, but no because no" [22:01:02] I conclude we do not want users :) [22:01:17] we hide Wikidatas victories [22:01:29] Wikidata is interesting because it's the kind of project that should probably not be edited by humans that often. It seems more geared toward bots. [22:01:31] that's a positive dynamic [22:01:39] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Addressed Daniel's comments" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 (owner: 10Hoo man) [22:01:47] (03PS9) 10Hoo man: Check the content model of pages in EntityPerPageBuilder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 [22:02:01] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Rebased" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 (owner: 10Hoo man) [22:02:14] harej, then we need to push external clients right ? [22:02:16] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Check the content model of pages in EntityPerPageBuilder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 (owner: 10Hoo man) [22:03:00] (03PS1) 10Aude: Add travis and scrutinizer badges to README [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130504 [22:03:23] TomT0m: It's a strategic question. You certainly want to encourage the use of Wikidata as a source that brings about other applications, but Wikidata itself should be usable too! [22:03:25] (03PS10) 10Hoo man: Check the content model of pages in EntityPerPageBuilder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 [22:03:52] The federal government's encountered a similar issue; should they be in the app-making business, or is their only responsiblity to create APIs and let others make the apps? [22:03:53] trailing white space *sigh* [22:04:11] (03PS11) 10Hoo man: Check the content model of pages in EntityPerPageBuilder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 [22:04:12] harej, not all datas will be bot entered [22:04:18] Different set of initiatives, but the government's made some apps (including the Census Bureau and IRS) but in many more cases they're just making data available for others to use. [22:04:28] Different set of incentives* I should say. [22:04:28] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Fixed trailing WS" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 (owner: 10Hoo man) [22:05:24] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 (owner: 10Hoo man) [22:06:09] harej, what we're talking about is just adding an icon to add to link to Wikidata entity to Reasonator, so two links instead of one, really big deal ;) and the user wgo want to show what data is entered in a showcase item in a prettier way [22:06:38] harej, as showcase items are examples and demonstration, we should be able to see them pretty [22:06:55] the incentive does not remove anything [22:07:04] no harm is possible [22:07:12] Not directly, but a second link dilutes the presence of the first. [22:07:26] Adding elements to an interface is not necessarily productive. [22:07:30] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 (owner: 10Hoo man) [22:08:41] harej, well, Wikidata UI is pretty bad in its current state, eventually everyone will know whar the reasonator icon mean [22:09:14] Bad in its current state, not when the UI design is finished. [22:09:43] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Showcase_items&curid=16907104&diff=123812606&oldid=123812320 vs. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Showcase_items&curid=16907104&diff=123814386&oldid=123812606 big difference [22:10:02] But whose fault is it for launching a product before the UI was finished? [22:10:04] JohnLewis, users show the current interface now [22:10:34] harej, it's not only the UI :) [22:10:59] if we had waited Wikidata would have never complete [22:11:32] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130504 (owner: 10Aude) [22:11:36] harej: No-ones. A fully furbished 100% clean neat UI vs. a working product is nothing. [22:12:49] JohnLewis, on the talk about Reasonator incorporation in Q, I remember someone saying "Reasonator really helps !' but some Wikidata experts ignored it :p [22:13:41] GerardM posted recently about some experienced users who find wikidata obscure [22:14:29] Lydia_WMDE: ^ you might want to chime in [22:14:35] 'night all [22:14:41] Urg [22:14:44] I try to do Wikidata advocacy by pushing gadgets in Wikipedia, it works after a little bit of talking but users curses the current lack of integration [22:14:48] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Nice :)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130504 (owner: 10Aude) [22:15:07] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add travis and scrutinizer badges to README [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130504 (owner: 10Aude) [22:15:22] Wikidata is a technical project with a huge potential if we make it more accessible [22:15:57] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 (owner: 10Hoo man) [22:17:26] aude: Want to merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 ? :P Already had a +2 but needed a minor change and a rebase [22:17:41] i'm running the tests myself [22:20:39] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 (owner: 10Hoo man) [22:21:03] gn [22:23:30] EmperorOfChina ^ [22:24:12] ? [22:24:17] <- busy [22:26:00] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/ed0be27 : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24057401 [23:08:56] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Check the content model of pages in EntityPerPageBuilder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 (owner: 10Hoo man) [23:09:15] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Check the content model of pages in EntityPerPageBuilder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120857 (owner: 10Hoo man) [23:18:56] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/48569ca : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/24060921 [23:38:31] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-2] "I just realized this would parse "1 1 1 BC" as the year 111 BC. Let me think about this." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119973 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))