[00:28:43] Is it possible to link more than one page from the same Wikipedia to an item? [00:29:07] no [00:29:27] instead, try and find a property to link the two items together [00:31:12] I was wanting to link a local image on enwp of an artwork to the Wikidata item for that artwork, which has an enwp article. [00:31:30] Is there just a property for images, then? [00:33:14] can that image not be moved to commons? [00:33:25] there's a property for image, but I think that is for the commonsMedia datatype [00:37:51] No, it’s fair use unfortunately. But that’s why I wanted to link it. It’s the only image of it, and there is no category [00:38:27] you can create an item for the fair use image then I guess [07:00:20] [13DataValuesJavascript] 15adrianlang created 06bump at 1420bbff8 (+0 new commits): 02http://git.io/CKv0QQ [07:03:12] [13DataValuesJavascript] 15adrianlang 04deleted 06bump at 1420bbff8: 02http://git.io/hcIHkg [08:45:51] Hi ! I installed wikibase on my server, and try to import data into it using the web API, but it's VERY slow (about 0.5 s per entity) [08:46:16] the entities are very simple (about 3-4 attributes), and I'm working on a local network so there's no lag [08:47:02] is there a cooldown setup or something ? or what's the best strategy to export/import a lot of entities ? [09:11:59] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add test for Gerrit 135489 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135752 [09:12:22] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Did it, see Ieafb629604f4680c23f9227b975f73b6dba8476a." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135489 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65782) (owner: 10Hoo man) [09:18:16] Thiemo_WMDE: can you un-draft https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/131952/ so this can move forward? [09:18:46] (03Draft1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Unify and simplify inline documentation of all possible entry points [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/131952 [09:19:16] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135752 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [09:20:04] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix broken documentation in Repo [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135424 [09:23:36] (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix broken documentation in Repo [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135424 [09:24:22] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Rebased and moved the .js files to an other patch." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135424 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [09:25:12] [13Geo] 15adrianlang created 06cleanup (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/qeQaeA [09:25:12] 13Geo/06cleanup 1462ee5ef 15Adrian Lang: Remove legacy todo (we don't want to do that anymore) [09:25:43] [13Geo] 15adrianlang opened pull request #9: Remove legacy todo (we don't want to do that anymore) (06master...06cleanup) 02http://git.io/-QwzPQ [09:28:03] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): jQuery performance optimisation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135753 [09:28:55] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/131952 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [09:31:33] [13Geo] 15thiemowmde 04deleted 06cleanup at 1462ee5ef: 02http://git.io/cUwOjw [09:35:54] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135424 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [09:39:30] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135424 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [09:43:19] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135753 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [09:47:09] DanielK_WMDE__: joing for the daily? [09:47:51] Lydia_WMDE: coming [09:48:15] Hm, getting mixed translations on Wikidata: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i051bh37ruzjxfm/Screenshot%202014-05-28%2011.47.48.png [09:52:47] DanielK_WMDE__: narf :D [09:52:57] DanielK_WMDE__: we will try thimeo's [09:53:07] Lydia_WMDE: vergiss es. liegt evtl am hangout plugin. chrome nervt gerade rum... [09:53:14] k [09:53:23] one more try :D [09:55:24] Lydia_WMDE: never mind, liegt an mir. reboot... [09:55:43] k [10:00:25] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 28/05/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135755 [10:08:23] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135755 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:16:34] Adrian_WMDE: (1/3).toFixed(99) [10:16:44] "0.333333333333333314829616256247390992939472198486328125000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000" [10:17:02] Mastering IEEE is so cool. :) [10:28:50] DanielK_WMDE: Any objections against https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/135696/ ? I will just merge it blindly otherwise. [10:40:08] Thiemo_WMDE: http://timelessrepo.com/json-isnt-a-javascript-subset [10:51:52] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "Uh, scarrry. I guess it's not possible to write a test for this? We really should. It feels bad to merge this blindly but I guess I should" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135696 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65831) (owner: 10Aude) [10:54:20] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Unify and simplify inline documentation of all possible entry points [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/131952 [10:55:34] Thiemo_WMDE: imho, that patch seems like a simple backport one. Daniel IIRC said he'll be working on the 'real' fix :/ [11:00:16] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/131952 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [11:31:51] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 031] "Didn't test, but it looks like it should fix the current problem by restoring the nasty workaround we had before." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135696 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65831) (owner: 10Aude) [11:31:56] Thiemo_WMDE: --^ [11:32:22] Thiemo_WMDE: see also the mail i just wrote to wikitech-l [11:32:36] im not on the list... [11:32:43] you should be :) [11:33:02] Thiemo_WMDE: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-May/076712.html [11:43:01] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Add test for Gerrit 135489 (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135752 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [11:44:13] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Fix broken documentation in Repo [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135424 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [11:44:39] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix broken documentation in Repo [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135424 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [11:47:38] (03PS12) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDataCodec. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 [11:47:40] (03PS7) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDiff [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 [11:47:42] (03PS9) 10Daniel Kinzler: Remove StoreFactory and related logic [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134348 [11:47:50] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Introducing EntityContentDataCodec. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [11:48:06] wtf jenkins, i just rebased. [11:49:39] "Current branch review/daniel_kinzler/RedirectEntityContent2 is up to date." [11:49:41] * DanielK_WMDE kicks jenkins [11:49:54] (03PS13) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDataCodec [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 [11:52:21] [13ValueView] 15adrianlang 04force-pushed 06refactorExperts from 142502862 to 14eb977fe: 02http://git.io/XLBMGw [11:52:21] 13ValueView/06refactorExperts 14eb977fe 15Adrian Lang: Factor inputextender and content out of time and globecoordinate experts... [11:56:34] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [12:03:53] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [12:06:54] (03PS8) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDiff [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 [12:07:43] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134348 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [12:12:28] Thiemo_WMDE: will you merge & backport katie's patch? otherwise i'll try to get around to testing it [12:13:00] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Fix rollback by re-adding baseRevIdForSaving in EntityContent [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135696 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65831) (owner: 10Aude) [12:13:04] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [12:13:26] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix rollback by re-adding baseRevIdForSaving in EntityContent [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135696 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65831) (owner: 10Aude) [12:13:27] DanielK_WMDE: how to backport? never did this. would be good to know. [12:16:35] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [12:25:15] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Add test for Gerrit 135489 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135752 [12:27:33] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Wait. Does this mean all messages used in $this->status->fatal( ... ) calls don't exist? Isn't this an error?" (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135752 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:31:10] Thiemo_WMDE: you cherry-pick the change onto the relevant deployment branch. you can do that in the web interface, or manually on your local machine. [12:31:14] never used the web ui for that, but there is a "cherry-pick" button [12:31:52] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135752 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:32:04] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Fix rollback by re-adding baseRevIdForSaving in EntityContent [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf6) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135760 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65831) [12:32:38] like that? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/135760/ [12:37:41] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf6) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135760 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65831) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:40:57] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] "This is me hitting the backport button for the first time. Wish me luck." [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf6) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135760 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65831) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:41:43] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix rollback by re-adding baseRevIdForSaving in EntityContent [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf6) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135760 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65831) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:42:41] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "yep, like that :)" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.24-wmf6) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135760 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65831) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [12:43:29] Thiemo_WMDE: you may want to make a topic branch on top of the deployment branch next time. doesn't matter much, though [12:44:02] DanielK_WMDE: I've reset the bug back to open for you :) [12:44:09] uh, don't know what this means. i just did what aude did. [12:45:19] Thiemo_WMDE: check out deployment branch, create topic branch, then cherry-pick. only makes a difference if we have multiple backports depending on each other. [12:45:53] don't know how the web ui does this - i'd hope it would copy the topic branch from the original patch, but who knows. [12:46:00] no idea how to do this with the button in gerrit. [12:46:31] i think it does exactly that. shouldn't it? [12:46:57] it doesn't, apparently. *shrug* [12:47:04] works well enough this way. [12:49:37] DanielK_WMDE: why is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/134348/a draft? its just a rebase, right? [12:54:14] someone can use rollback tool at Wikidata right now? I can't, always get a message "rollback failed. edit conflict" [12:54:36] ah just saw the bugzilla link [13:02:06] Stryn :p [13:02:29] (03Draft9) 10Daniel Kinzler: Remove StoreFactory and related logic [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134348 [13:02:34] (03Draft13) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDataCodec [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 [13:02:40] (03Draft8) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDiff [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 [13:10:07] Thiemo_WMDE: fixed the "draft" status. I rebased the entire chain earlier. the last change in that chain was a draft, so i pushed it again as a draft - which apparently caused gerrit to set all changes the rebase touched to "draft" as well. [13:10:12] nasty edge case [13:10:47] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134348 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:15:36] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:18:50] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:31:50] moin [13:34:16] hey aude [13:36:05] (03PS1) 10Adrian Lang: Don't call reset() on ArrayObject's [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135764 [13:36:39] Adrian_WMDE: ChangeOpQualifierRemoveTest.php, ChangeOpQualifierTest.php (2x), ... [13:36:55] ChangeOpReferenceTest.php (2x), ... [13:37:06] see above, Thiemo_WMDE [13:37:06] 2x? [13:42:06] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135764 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:47:00] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Don't call reset() on ArrayObject's [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135764 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:47:20] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Don't call reset() on ArrayObject's [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135764 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [13:50:44] hmpf. yay array objects. [13:51:03] :) [13:51:18] yay underspecified obscure language feature [13:52:17] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde created 06claims-away (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/d0Rfyg [13:52:17] 13WikibaseDataModel/06claims-away 14c22ef8c 15Thiemo Mättig: Reduce unnecessary usage of Claims class [13:53:12] we used to have an occupation "civil servant", however, it has clearly been renamed, how do I find it? [13:53:22] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde opened pull request #102: Reduce unnecessary usage of Claims class (06master...06claims-away) 02http://git.io/kaWUQw [13:55:01] sDrewth: It's not possible unless 'civil servant' has been added as an alias to the new item iirc. [13:55:13] Past statements can help too. [13:55:18] that is what I thought [13:55:49] happened a few times that the vandals have got to things, though there I have been able to back track from WP [13:58:45] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/claims-away/c22ef8c : Thiemo Mättig The build failed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/26217259 [14:00:44] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] Introducing EntityContentDiff (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [14:01:13] (03PS1) 10Aude: New deployment build, fix issue with rollback [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf6) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135767 [14:04:27] found it, it is where I was, I just missed the rename statement [14:04:39] we are going to need to go to arbitration [14:04:48] civil service <-> civil servant [14:05:19] ah, no, we have someone duplicating [14:05:46] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDiff (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [14:05:53] JeroenDeDauw: --^ [14:08:43] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Obviously to early to review this but I think you will find it helpful." (0311 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106721 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [14:09:04] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf6) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135767 (owner: 10Aude) [14:13:23] Thiemo_WMDE: thanks for the review, but that thing is stale... rather spend time on the urgent stuff [14:15:18] JeroenDeDauw: putting EntityContentDiff into Wikibase\DataModel\Entity was a copy&paste error. I'm not *that* silly usually... [14:15:53] especially since i'm currently trying to untangle EntityContent from the rest of the codebase [14:18:39] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "This change is not really holding the planned pulling apart of Entity into account. It'd be very nice if you could write new code in such " (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [14:19:21] DanielK_WMDE: good, I'd hate to have to argue against that being a good idea :) [14:20:21] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] New deployment build, fix issue with rollback [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf6) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135767 (owner: 10Aude) [14:23:09] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] "3rd attempt to merge, ..." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134348 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [14:23:19] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New deployment build, fix issue with rollback [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf6) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135767 (owner: 10Aude) [14:23:37] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove StoreFactory and related logic [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134348 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [14:23:58] yay! [14:28:01] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 04-1] "This doesn't actually test whether the wikitext gets parsed AFAIS." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135752 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:28:54] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "@Jeroen: not sure what you are referring to. Stuff like Entity::setLabel? It's going to be a bit painful to duplicate the test setup for I" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [14:32:16] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Introducing EntityContentDiff (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [14:33:58] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Unify and simplify inline documentation of all possible entry points [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/131952 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:34:26] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Unify and simplify inline documentation of all possible entry points [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/131952 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:35:09] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing EntityContentDiff (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135044 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [14:35:15] Thiemo_WMDE: --^ [14:35:43] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add test for static RepoHooks::onMakeGlobalVariablesScript (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135432 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:36:23] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 031] jQuery performance optimisation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135753 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:37:19] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Unify and simplify inline documentation of all possible entry points (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/131952 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:37:30] Thiemo_WMDE: REVERTTTTTT https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/131952/ [14:37:31] AHHHHHHHHHHHH [14:37:35] You only had 1 * [14:37:58] * JeroenDeDauw is sad he cannot edit file in web UI [14:38:12] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] jQuery performance optimisation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135753 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:38:33] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: jQuery performance optimisation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135753 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:42:12] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] "This change is consistent with what we have generally been doing. The test base class, be it the MW one or the PHPUnit one, is in the top " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135437 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:42:21] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Unify imports of namespace-less classes [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135437 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:42:25] Thiemo_WMDE: rebase https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/135437/ [14:44:07] JeroenDeDauw: i removed the star on purpose so this does not make it in any html doku. [14:45:48] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/25a0c5a : jenkins-bot The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/26220174 [14:45:52] Thiemo_WMDE: you made this decision on your own, whitout discussing it first? [14:46:09] Lydia_WMDE: can we please put this on the agenda for the Tuesday discussion next week? [14:46:46] DanielK_WMDE: wtf https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/jobs/26220175 [14:46:54] JeroenDeDauw: what's the discussion point exactly? I am missing context [14:46:55] didn't you test the tests? [14:47:10] also guys: more <3 please [14:47:10] Lydia_WMDE: nvm, Thiemo_WMDE already raged, which was all I was going for :D [14:47:11] ;-) [14:47:19] JeroenDeDauw: ok... [14:49:10] gah, not the lua tests again :( [14:49:21] This is like the billionth time the Lua tests are breaking because WikidataJenkins doesn't have Scribunto [14:49:26] Thiemo_WMDE: looks like I got some Lydia_WMDE panic as a bonus [14:49:37] why on earth can't we install that extension *rages* [14:49:38] lol [14:49:48] tobi!!! [14:49:56] hoo: i'll poke tobi about it [14:50:00] we have a bug for it, no? [14:50:06] (tobi is off until tuesday) [14:50:11] apparently we're still running https://github.com/wmde/puppet-jenkins/tree/eqiad [14:50:14] not master [14:50:21] oh? [14:50:27] https://github.com/wmde/puppet-jenkins/pull/22 [14:50:27] Lydia_WMDE: Don't think so... we had it fixed once almost... but then found out we used the wrong branches everywhere (and gave up) [14:50:37] mpfh [14:50:38] ok [14:50:45] https://github.com/wmde/puppet-jenkins/pull/22 should work [14:51:02] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Unify imports of namespace-less classes [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135437 [14:51:03] but someone has to manually pull it into the instances, right? [14:51:15] * instance (only one AFAIK) [14:51:19] * aude looks [14:52:29] Lydia_WMDE: Is DanielK_WMDE around to look at the broken tests? If not, I'll revert the change... I think that's how we should handle changes breaking tests, unless stuff is really urgent [14:52:53] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #102 14c22ef8c: Need an `assertContainsOnly` as well to be equivalent 02http://git.io/TeT_Aw [14:53:40] hoo: he is working from home [14:54:07] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #102 14c22ef8c: You need to drop the clone here now 02http://git.io/PylRPw [14:54:59] (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Revert "Remove StoreFactory and related logic" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135772 [14:55:03] Thiemo_WMDE: ^ [14:55:03] the issue with the puppet is that i don't know for sure if it will overwrite any non-puppetized stuff tobi has done [14:55:18] probably need to wait until he's back and check [14:55:41] aude: ^ [14:55:56] hoo: whats the error? [14:56:07] Thiemo_WMDE: It's breaking the Lua client tests [14:56:14] https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/jobs/26220175 [14:57:11] Lydia_WMDE: can you make a sprint item to sort out the jenkins and enable scribunto [14:57:14] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/2ca908c : jenkins-bot The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/26221339 [14:57:21] please :) [14:57:26] Getting food (and a break) :P [14:57:49] aude: hoo|away: will do [14:57:54] thanks [14:58:13] * aude gets ready for swat deploy [14:58:19] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-2] "I would like to understand why we need to revert *ALL* this. Can't we find the problem and fix it?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135772 (owner: 10Hoo man) [14:58:31] aude: for the rollback fix? [14:58:41] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135437 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:59:18] yes [14:59:28] sweet [14:59:34] JohnLewis: ^ [14:59:38] fyi [14:59:45] not a nice solution... hope for something nicer soon [14:59:54] *nod* [15:00:08] Lydia_WMDE: Noted :p [15:00:17] alright folks. need to head out. back online in an hour probably [15:00:22] k [15:00:23] I'd see it in -operations anyway :p [15:02:11] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135772 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:09:53] Thiemo_WMDE: If you find it, fix it [15:10:02] deployed [15:10:04] If you don't then we should revert [15:10:04] https://test.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q22&diff=6150&oldid=6148 [15:10:16] * aude revert that vandal ;) [15:10:41] i don't know if i have time to investigate the test failures today [15:10:56] if no one can look then agree revert, fix, resubmit [15:11:05] I think we should revert changes that break tests, if their not urgent and we can't fix the test immediately [15:11:12] Lydia_WMDE: ^ [15:12:02] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/54bdec9 : jenkins-bot The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/26221595 [15:12:27] i don't like to further merge stuff when master is broken [15:12:49] My fault... those were just minor things [15:13:46] those are fine [15:13:57] phpunit doesn't run on those anyway [15:14:08] not really [15:16:02] [13Time] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #18 147eceae2: If this does not need to be public, I'd go with `private $SECONDS_PER_GREGORIAN_YEAR` 02http://git.io/HW9_TA [15:16:45] [13Time] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #18 147eceae2: It is generally odd to stub about value objects 02http://git.io/Dkgcog [15:21:06] hoo|away: aude The test run fine on my machine. How is this possible? [15:21:24] Thiemo_WMDE: You don't have Scribunto installed, maybe? [15:21:46] just installed it. fails hard without. [15:22:32] wait, ... [15:22:49] wtf? the tests just succeed if scruibunto is not active? [15:22:52] Thiemo_WMDE: what fails hard? Client tests? [15:23:06] Thiemo_WMDE: They can't run w/o Scribunto [15:23:37] they run w/o scribunto. [15:23:44] No, they don't [15:23:49] now i had them run /w scribunto. no error. [15:23:57] on masteR? [15:24:00] OK, but incomplete or skipped tests! Tests: 59, Assertions: 122, Skipped: 2. [15:24:02] confusion! [15:24:25] Thiemo_WMDE: If you have repo and client on one Wiki they'll probably even pass [15:24:36] because then the non-mocked store might even work [15:27:59] Thiemo_WMDE: you evil person - y u no run the DataModel tests before submitting patch? ;p [15:28:04] Only takes a second [15:28:10] And you get a NyanCat! [15:28:27] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Aw, screw it." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135772 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:29:11] JeroenDeDauw: I don't get a nyan cat... do I need a special phpunit version? :P [15:29:29] data-model]$ git status [15:29:29] HEAD detached at 0.7.4 [15:29:38] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06claims-away: 02http://git.io/1n2a2g [15:29:38] 13WikibaseDataModel/06claims-away 142f60da1 15jeroendedauw: Remove not needed clone and add assert [15:29:38] hoo: master [15:29:42] hoo: don't use mw test runner [15:29:45] for data model [15:29:53] aude: I just use phpunit [15:29:56] The tests run w/o scribunto, but this depends on your definition of "run": "OK (14 tests, 32 assertions)". [15:29:59] aude: DM does not even register itself there any more [15:30:08] $ phpunit --version [15:30:08] PHPUnit 3.7.34 by Sebastian Bergmann. [15:30:08] hoo: master of DataModel, was not in 0.7.x yet [15:30:14] oh, I see [15:30:40] hoo: the new way to run the tests is as follows: [15:30:42] while true ; do phpunit ; done [15:31:23] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw 04deleted 06claims-away at 142f60da1: 02http://git.io/FLjNlQ [15:31:38] hoo: since you are eager to poke at it, reviiiiiiiieeeeeewwwwww https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/pull/98 [15:33:11] scribunto tests pass for me, though think it's an issue with settings [15:33:19] works if i have repo setup and conencted [15:33:25] travis / jenkins doeos not [15:33:29] does* [15:33:31] JeroenDeDauw: Nah, poking at the Lua mess atm [15:34:34] hoo: just saw the revert [15:35:06] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] "> Can't we find the problem and fix it?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135772 (owner: 10Hoo man) [15:36:16] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/claims-away/2f60da1 : jeroendedauw The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/26225946 [15:36:25] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Re-submit "Remove StoreFactory and related logic" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135776 [15:36:36] Thiemo_WMDE: hoo: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/135776/ [15:37:40] thanks, JeroenDeDauw [15:39:24] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "It seems this makes a test fail ..." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135776 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [15:42:07] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135776 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [15:44:04] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Unify imports of namespace-less classes [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135437 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [15:47:00] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/8fRdNQ [15:47:01] 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 14ed8398f 15jeroendedauw: protected -> private [15:48:01] hi :) [15:48:10] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 04-1] "This is what makes the test fail *sometimes* (run order dependent)" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135776 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [15:48:38] We even built in that reset functionality only for the Lua tests... [15:53:59] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/e94e94a : Jeroen De Dauw The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/26226501 [15:55:10] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/aSXA9Q [15:55:10] 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 1451131f3 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update .scrutinizer.yml [15:57:58] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/DWsEBw [15:57:58] 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 1443f6076 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update phpunit.xml.dist [16:00:18] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/f3bnjg [16:00:18] 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 14de3a2b9 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update .travis.yml [16:02:25] https://scrutinizer-ci.com/g/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/statistics/ \o/ [16:08:51] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/19202aa : Jeroen De Dauw The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/26227160 [16:12:16] Hi! Is anybody familiar with queries on Wikidata? I cannot understand how the numerical identifiers for the articles work. Please help [16:16:52] Hi torin8 [16:17:11] torin8, I'm very new to Wikidata itself, but I might be able to help [16:17:35] Krenair: hi! [16:17:54] torin8, each item in wikidata is given a unique number on creation. they have been assigned up from item 1 [16:18:10] Krenair: It's the first time i have seen it, and i have no idea how anything work. So help is greatly appreciated [16:18:34] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] "General question: I wonder what concept "EntityContentData" represents? The interface says nothing about EntityContent, Entity or EntityId" (0311 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [16:18:35] Krenair: where do i find these numbers? [16:18:46] there's a few places [16:19:05] For example, here is the UK's item: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q145 [16:19:35] -> 145 (in the URL, and text to the title at the top of the page) [16:19:40] and next* [16:21:25] torin8, so for the querying, you're at the AutoList tool or something right? Maybe wdq.wmflabs.org? [16:21:42] Krenair: the numbering seems somehow randon. Q140 is 'lion' q141 is a kind of a donut [16:22:29] Krenair: there's this tool http://wdq.wmflabs.org/wdq/ [16:22:37] They just counted up from one, incrementing for each item [16:22:46] The items were created in what seems to be a random order [16:23:52] Krenair: and how can one build queries on top of that? [16:24:21] Krenair: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=CLAIM[31%3A14827288]%20AND%20CLAIM[31%3A593744] looks nicer [16:24:22] It takes about 3x as long for the tests to start running via the MediaWiki runner as it takes for the data model tests to start running and complete running [16:24:24] uuuugh [16:25:14] torin8, Okay, so if I wanted to run a tree query to ... say, find all the items preceding the UK, I can run the query "tree[145][155]" where 145 is the item number and 155 is the property number to follow (in this case 155 is the 'preceded by' property) [16:25:18] Thiemo_WMDE: easy review is easy https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/pull/98 [16:25:50] torin8, try putting that in and clicking the Autolist link [16:27:30] Krenair: it's taking forever to run =) [16:28:04] Krenair: what does a 'tree query' works [16:28:15] Krenair: *mean? sorry [16:28:49] torin8, this is documented at http://wdq.wmflabs.org/api_documentation.html [16:29:03] "This returns all items on a tree of properties (can be separated by commas), following properties recursively from root items." [16:31:05] Krenair: it still says 'running query'. Is it ok that it's taking so long, or is it frozen? [16:31:24] torin8, what query did you give it? [16:31:40] Krenair: the one you gave me, "tree[145][155]" [16:31:53] That should be fast [16:32:50] Krenair: ok, it worked [16:34:16] Krenair: so can you explain to me how you got the number 155? [16:34:32] Krenair: and what this query output menas [16:34:59] Okay, so the point of this query was to follow back the 'preceded by' statements from a given item [16:35:04] (recursively) [16:35:37] 155 is the property number for 'preceded by'. If you went to look at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q145 you see the 'preceded by' text links to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P155 [16:35:38] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Fix risky tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135781 [16:38:03] Krenair: i see. so i need to find the page about the item first, and from there i will see the identifyer and all queries that are possble to run on it? [16:39:41] I believe so. This is of course only for the 'tree' query (I ran into this stuff a couple of days ago and worked out 'tree' myself, so I thought it would be an easy one to explain to you) [16:40:09] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Fix risky test [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135783 [16:40:33] Krenair: i want to do the following. There's a certain category of WP articles (let's say, aircrashes). i want to extract the full list of articles, and from them, the location and the time. Is it possible to query? [16:40:58] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 04-1] Fix risky tests (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135781 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:42:27] torin8, so we're dealing with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Aviation_accidents_and_incidents ? [16:43:05] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135781 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:43:06] Krenair: yes, for example [16:43:49] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Fix risky tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135784 [16:45:31] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Fix risky tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135781 [16:45:38] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Good catch" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135781 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:46:32] (03CR) 10Hoo man: Fix risky test (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135783 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:47:06] torin8, so the first annoying thing about this I found is that enwiki doesn't have each crash/etc. as a direct member of this category [16:48:06] Krenair: but you can still get the list of articles [16:48:22] Krenair: by using the category tree [16:48:22] I went and found an example famous one anyway, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_4590 which has wikidata item https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q406535 [16:48:52] Krenair: oh, so not all of them are even on wikidata? [16:48:53] unfortunately, it seems wikidata does not have a complete record of everything you want [16:49:18] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135783 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:49:22] additionally, wikidata does not appear to track wikipedia category membership directly.. [16:49:34] Krenair: if you wanted to get the list of all those that wikidata has, how would you do it automatically? Please don't tell me that the manual search is the only way =) [16:49:37] hoo: looking though the Wikibase.git code makes me depressed :( [16:50:18] Lydia_WMDE: Any idea why https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MostLinkedPages is disabled? Performance issues? [16:50:23] JeroenDeDauw: It's still so much better than all the other extensions [16:51:10] multichill: possible. if you want open a bug and i can investigate next week [16:51:13] torin8: https://wdq.wmflabs.org/ makes it possible to do queries. Is that what you're looking for? [16:51:55] multichill: yes, this is what i am looking at. Trying to understand how to make queries [16:51:58] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove silly skipped tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135786 [16:52:28] torin8: For example http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?lang=pt&props=569&q=CLAIM[31%3A916333]%20AND%20noclaim[359] [16:52:34] (I still had that one open) [16:52:45] hoo: I hope not... [16:52:54] multichill: i have a list of articles, and i want to see how many of them are on WP, and what i can query about them. Is there an automated way to do it? [16:52:59] torin8, well I would expect Q406535 (the one I linked just now) to be an instance of Q744913 (aviation accident) [16:53:19] JeroenDeDauw: I could prove you wrong here... but I guess we both don't want that :D [16:53:20] but it's not, so clearly this isn't complete, but still: you can try looking at claim[31:744913] [16:53:55] hoo: good guess [16:53:55] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "These "tests" have been like that for ages... heh" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135786 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:54:05] torin8: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?lang=pt&props=569&q=CLAIM[31%3A744913] might be more of interest to you [16:55:00] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove silly skipped tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135786 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:55:12] multichill, this is one of the report special pages disabled by miser mode on wikimedia wikis [16:55:39] Ah, did this one get hit by miser too? :-( [16:55:46] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135784 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:55:48] That's recent, because it was updated this month [16:56:07] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032 V: 032] Fix risky tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135784 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:56:16] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Update DM version [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135787 [16:56:51] multichill, IIRC, Nemo_bis did some work in this area? (poke) [16:57:03] JeroenDeDauw: Want to amend https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135783 or shall I just merge? [16:57:14] I don't care enough for a -1 [16:57:36] multichill, yeah, see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/84635/ [16:57:46] hoo: assertSame for arrays? [16:57:56] JeroenDeDauw: Empty array [16:58:10] because assertEquals( null, array() ) -> true [16:58:29] or false and emtpy array... or 0 and "0" and empty array [16:59:02] Well, whatever... [16:59:19] ok :D [16:59:34] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] " Well, whatever..." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135783 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:59:36] multichill: the last query looks great. So those are aviation accidents in Belgium? [16:59:38] :D [17:00:00] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix risky test [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135783 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:00:02] JeroenDeDauw: I just like people to be aware of these PHP pitfalls which can sometimes lead to funny heisenbugs and stuff like that [17:00:12] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Optimize Repo imports [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135790 [17:00:23] torin8, claim[31:744913]? yeah that's what I suggested to him as well [17:00:30] multichill* even ^ [17:01:12] Where is my gerrit-be-lazy script? [17:01:15] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Optimize Repo imports [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135790 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:01:58] aha https://github.com/JeroenDeDauw/gerrit-be-lazy [17:02:29] http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?props=31&cat_name=Accidents%20and%20incidents%20involving%20airliners&cat_lang=en&cat_project=wikipedia&cat_depth=3& ? [17:02:41] Krenair: multichill how do i claim ALL aviation accidents? [17:02:50] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135781 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:02:52] This tool confuses the hell out of me [17:03:05] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Fix risky tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135781 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:05:39] incomming reviews: 0 [17:05:41] \o/ [17:06:38] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135786 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:07:03] hahahaha [17:07:16] ok, if origin is set to a copy on my own box, pulling wont do much [17:07:18] multichill: would it be claim[744913:31,145,etc...] listing the identifyers of all countries? [17:08:12] (03Abandoned) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Optimize Repo imports [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135790 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:08:23] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Update DM version [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135787 [17:08:30] multichill: MostLinkedPages has been disabled forever [17:09:18] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Re-submit "Remove StoreFactory and related logic" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135776 [17:09:24] you could ask someone to look up the crontab logs to see how long it takes on wikidata and, based on that, decide whether to propose higher frequency [17:10:02] multichill: no it doesn't work this way [17:13:51] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Optimize Repo imports [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135796 [17:14:12] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135787 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:14:52] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032 V: 032] Optimize Repo imports [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135796 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:21:49] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135790 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:25:20] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135787 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:27:50] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove unused parameters and reduce visibility scope [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135802 [17:30:59] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135776 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:33:06] torin8, hi [17:33:07] What do you mean ALL? [17:33:10] torin8, You want to list ALL aviation accidents, not just the ones Wikidata has marked as such? [17:34:34] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135796 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:35:26] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "DataModel changes are non-breaking" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135787 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:36:28] (03CR) 10Hoo man: "I think these are there to stay compatible with core's Action classes?!" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135802 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:36:28] Krenair: i understood now that claim[31:744913] gives you all items marked as an aviation accident. Is it so? [17:36:39] enough for now [17:37:59] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135802 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:40:25] How do I find what property to use for a reference on wd? [17:42:36] torin8, should give you all items marked as instances of aviation accident [18:28:46] Lydia_WMDE: got a question about Wikidata [18:28:57] JeroenDeDauw: shoot [18:29:00] Here it is: is "DATA, UNLIMITED DATAAAA" an appropriate summarisation of what you guys do? [18:29:11] lol [18:29:12] no [18:31:22] Lydia_WMDE: is that he official reply you want me to foreward? "lol no"? [18:31:39] depends on who receives it :P [18:31:43] probably not [18:32:06] Lydia_WMDE: well, then better provide a more decent answer! [18:32:13] -.- [18:32:15] but but but [18:32:16] JeroenDeDauw: Who's asking? :p [18:32:16] tired [18:32:29] yeah that's a good start [18:33:26] but how about: we're collecting structured information about topics of general interest and link to external databases where appropriate [18:33:55] Lydia_WMDE: sure, I'll foreward that [18:33:55] I'd prefer to find out who is asking first Lydia_WMDE :p [18:34:26] JohnLewis: surely someone evil if he is proxied by JeroenDeDauw [18:34:28] :P [18:35:00] Lydia_WMDE: probably a Nyan cat :p [18:35:07] yes, a fellow member of The Evil Council. Not to be confused with the KDE ev board [18:35:14] :P [18:46:39] :D [18:47:31] (03PS1) 10Aaron Schulz: Fixed profiling call [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135824 [18:50:43] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "@Thiemo: the EntityContentDataCode does not include much logic specific to EntityContent yet, but follow up patches will add such logic. S" (039 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134373 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [18:53:22] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135824 (owner: 10Aaron Schulz) [19:17:35] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "generally works fine, though there's a problem with extension path for the images and see other comments" (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132606 (owner: 10Tpt) [19:18:07] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Fixed profiling call [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135824 (owner: 10Aaron Schulz) [19:18:35] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fixed profiling call [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135824 (owner: 10Aaron Schulz) [19:41:40] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135868 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [20:07:59] Lydia_WMDE: watchlist syncing [20:09:02] benestar: What about it :D [20:09:19] wanted to ask if she is still interested [20:09:21] ;) [20:11:27] JohnLewis: is Lydia_WMDE afk? [20:11:49] benestar: idk about whether she is afk but yes, she is still interested in that. [20:13:06] benestar: I'd say she is intereseted [20:30:49] Pine: Indeed :p (xchannel reference) [20:34:51] How should this: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15616774 be handled? [20:37:37] JohnLewis ^? (You and Lydia_WMDE are the ones I remember from this channel that has helped me, so I thought I should ping) [20:46:22] Josve05a: Sorry, was busy. I'll take a look now :) [20:47:39] JohnLewis Does "Empty item, not in use, previously had an interwikilink to a redirect on svwp" for a del.-request? [20:47:48] ....make sense? [20:48:30] Josve05a: I know what you mean. [20:48:57] Josve05a: Deleted :) [20:49:19] oh good. Since English is not my native language (even if I got an A is school), I didn't know if other people would understand... [20:49:37] if I wr...ote that. [20:50:02] oops... the 4...1 should had been in the beginning, dah mIRC. [20:51:02] Should a title like "Baron of Baltimore" or a music band be tagged as "is a: human"? Or is "is a: human" reserved for articles about a single person? [20:51:17] Josve05a: on Wikidata lots of people do not speak English natively ;) [20:51:56] so don't worry, every kind of English can be understood ;) [20:52:03] JeLuF: single person I think... [20:52:13] benestar thanks :D [20:53:21] Josve05: That was my assumption as well, but I'm playing the "gender game" at the moment and see lots of things tagged as human that are not single persons [20:53:22] JeLuF: The item has to be apart a human being to be tagged as P31:Q5 :) [20:53:26] Josve05a: just out of interest, what is your native language? [20:53:49] benestar: Swedish [20:54:01] JeLuF: Remove them and find out who did it so we can trout them :p [20:54:01] cool, mine is German :) [20:54:10] English here [20:55:47] benestar: Das du sprechen Deutsch? (my failed attement to speak German...only took 1 year of it in 6th grad (3y ago)). [20:55:54] grade* [20:56:27] Josve05a: Ja ;) [20:57:19] Unfortunately, I do not understand Swedish at all [20:57:28] nor can I speak it ^^ [20:57:50] benestar: Va? Så du förstår inte vad jag säger? [20:57:56] shame on you [20:59:35] :( [21:00:07] :) [21:01:56] Zolo (an admin on Wikidata) added Q5 to this: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1469431&diff=93027655&oldid=92762091 ... a company...I thought that was funny [21:04:09] Hm. [21:08:37] Stupid Dexbot ... 90% errors... [21:11:04] Can someone check https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mcabood [21:14:22] JohnLewis: If an item is about a sibling duo, it should not be tagged with "human", right? [21:14:54] Josve05a: Hm. I do not know actually. May be a question for Project chat. [21:15:20] We need a blacklist for the wikidatagame. :P [21:15:58] sjoerddebruin userblacklist? [21:16:16] Or a whitelist. :P [21:16:20] Or that you need a minimal amount of edits. [21:16:25] Just to avoid things like this. [21:16:38] Cant we just disablle their Aouth for Widar 1.2 (or what ever it is called on mediaWiki....or something... [21:16:49] disable* [21:21:25] Why is the Yoruba Main Page half in Greek? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Ojúewé_Àkọ́kọ́ [21:21:56] Mcabood has tagged a cemetary, a baseball team and a novel as human :-( [21:23:50] JohnLewis: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#instance_of_.28P31.29:_sibling_duo_.28Q14073567.29_or_human_.28Q5.29 [21:24:35] Josve05a: Saw :) [21:31:09] my first (I belive, might be 2nd) Project-chat discussion! [21:41:44] Gender game is no fun. Half of the objects shown are no P31:Q5 in the first place. [21:42:16] JohnLewis Should fictional character have gender? [21:42:17] JeLuF: Found a nice set at tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?lang=en&props=569&q=CLAIM[649] AND claim[31%3A5] [21:44:53] Josve05a: Probably. [21:45:52] multichill: Historic places? Uh... [21:49:28] Some people have houses named after them. All on the same Wikipedia page so it ends up in the same item :@ [21:52:14] fictional characters (e.g. Harry Potter): P31:Q5? I'd say no, right? [21:52:21] I want the merge-game back, even if it had som *minor* bugs! [21:52:44] I want a "Not a Person" button in the gender game [21:53:22] JeLuF Use Q95074 [21:53:44] JeLuF There is a "red flag" in the right top corner [21:54:25] what will it do? [21:54:55] I want the merge game to be fixed and then brought back! [21:55:20] JeLuF report the item ar "wierd" https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:The_Game/Flagged_items [21:55:23] though maybe we could get ~50 temporary admins to help delete the items if it does :P [21:58:21] ajr: looks like it's back [21:59:22] ajr: or we could just you know... use the adminbot we approved :p [22:02:56] Wait....what??? [22:03:24] [23:52] I wrote: 9 I want the merge-game back, even if it had som *minor* bugs! Now 00:00, it is back! MAGIC! [22:05:03] Why is the Yoruba Main Page half in Greek? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Ojúewé_Àkọ́kọ́ [22:06:18] oh god. Please no more colour [22:07:07] sorry [22:07:10] Why do we even have colour on in here? [22:07:14] 4W7h8y 3n12o13t1? [22:07:30] Oh wait... yeah.. Stupid greg-g. [22:07:44] * grrrit-wm not greg-g. You're awesome :) [22:09:21] huh: Why not? For that specific reason :p [22:09:36] huh I see a rainbow...or a Pride-flag, but I can't read it! [22:11:26] If one wiki has the "real name of a spiecies" and another uses a "synonym-name (listed on the 1st wiki) of the spiecies", is it still about the same topic? [22:11:34] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleutherodactylus_nasutus & https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ischnocnema_nasuta [22:13:21] JohnLewis: but you can do this with it - 5,5 0,0 5,5 0,0 5,5 0,0 3,3 0,0 3,3 0,0 12,12 0,0 12,12 0,0 12,12 0,0 3,3 0,0 3,3 0,0 [22:14:12] Josve05a: yes [22:14:17] huh: I'll let you off then :p [22:14:30] wow! [22:15:05] Wait, let's see, is there a Wikidata property for synonyms? [22:15:56] I recomend merging spiecies from svwp (over 1.000.000 bot-created) with spiecies on enwp. Most of the time they are using different items... [22:16:14] Josve05a: :P [22:16:16] er [22:16:21] JohnLewis: :P [22:17:09] greg-g: grrrit-wm is evil though, admit :D [22:17:42] huh: \o/ [22:18:05] we have to put this into our topic xD [22:18:20] JohnLewis: no comment ;) [22:20:33] I have just merged three items with eachoters...fu**ing pain in the a**... [22:23:05] XD [22:32:39] so....what does it take to be an admin on wikidata? Lol... [22:32:54] do rfd work [22:33:19] to "become" an admin. [22:33:56] Josve05a: To become on, RfD work. End of. To be a good one; do nothing yet still be useful [22:34:32] "do nothing"...sounds great! [22:34:32] Josve05a: why would you want to become an admin? Just to be able to say that you're an admin? [22:35:25] if you frequently request deletions on RfD, you could just nominate yourself [22:35:32] WD RfA standards are not very high [22:35:32] Yes! ...No of course not! I just know that with the Wiki-game there will be a lot of rfD comming in, and there *will* be a "demand" for more. [22:36:09] RfD's* [22:36:35] Chrome just crashed... [22:37:15] RfA at Wikidata is a very kind and wonderful place :) [22:37:23] (hint hint enwiki...) [22:37:45] * JohnLewis got adminship, did work for 3 months, never did stuff actively again [22:37:51] :D [22:38:18] I ran for admin for enwp once, got (0/8/3), then withdrow myself...all because of "a few" typos... [22:38:27] Yet if you ask me to do something, it's done faster than those who delete 1000 items a day. Logs are not what they seem. [22:40:53] I've predicted this, so I've already took action. :D [22:42:05] Large RfD? Just merge more stuff with the game. :P [22:54:31] JeroenDeDauw: https://www.facebook.com/IFeakingLoveScience/photos/a.456449604376056.98921.367116489976035/801225896565090/?type=1 [23:39:08] The game suggests that Amerikaner (en: Americans) and Black and white cookie should be merged...lol [23:40:31] obviously [23:41:16] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikaner_(Gebäck) [23:41:22] * Josve05a presses "Same topic" [23:42:04] huh: It was https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikaner