[00:00:12] do you see any read messages there? [00:00:35] with status 404 [00:00:38] or 500 [00:01:18] Nope. Just 304s and 200s. [00:01:29] hmm [00:01:43] MJ94: append ?debug=true to the address [00:01:56] and see if the error is still there [00:02:22] lazowik: like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q122917?debug=true ? [00:02:25] yep [00:02:59] well, when I click edit, nothing happens – same as before. [00:03:14] same error, too [00:03:20] MJ94: could you paste the whole error line? [00:03:30] it should mention in which file and line it happened [00:04:40] http://pastebin.com/f2qYaphJ [00:05:33] lazowik: bah, I keep forgetting to highlight you [00:05:40] heh [00:06:14] MJ94: do you have any gadgets enabled? [00:06:29] MJ94: lazowik doesn't like you highlighting his problems :p [00:06:54] JohnLewis: quiet! [00:06:57] I kill you! [00:07:22] lazowik: Yes. [00:07:32] try disabling them [00:08:30] All of them? Or 1 by 1 to isolate it? [00:08:52] maybe first all of them [00:09:01] not to waste time if it isn't that [00:10:32] nope. still erroring [00:10:48] http://puu.sh/aiJNV/f543bc3d37.png [00:11:09] mh [00:11:13] that looks a bit terrible [00:11:27] I broke Wikidata :o [00:12:30] MJ94: any browser extensions that you have on both browsers? [00:12:57] None on Firefox. [00:13:20] http://puu.sh/aiJYk/e4e01d0ce2.png [00:15:44] hmm [00:17:28] JohnLewis: And you said I was being insane. [00:18:09] lazowik: sigh. thanks for the help. [00:18:44] one strange thing [00:18:51] there is no User:AzaToth/morebits.js on wikidata [00:18:58] twinkle. [00:19:10] twinkle is azatoth/morebits.js [00:19:19] MJ94: any custom js? [00:19:22] I noticed twinkle was enabled in diffs. [00:19:27] Not that I know of. [00:20:21] lazowik: notice the Twinkle. http://puu.sh/aiKqc/d019178427.png [00:20:28] not sure why it's enabled [00:20:40] I don't remember enabling it on Wikidata [00:22:02] meh [00:22:09] I'm running out of ideas [00:22:13] *ideas [00:22:26] * lazowik has done null edit on irc [00:25:33] siiiigh [00:25:57] lazowik: I am curious how Twinkle became activated on my account. Is it a default for everyone? [00:26:58] I don't think so [00:29:20] hmmm [00:39:13] lazowik: what next? :p [00:39:30] JohnLewis: is Twinkle enabled by default? if not, why is it enabled for me? [00:39:49] Twinkle should not be on Wikidata [00:40:03] JohnLewis: MJ94 I don't even have an option to enable it [00:40:10] MJ94: your wikidata username? [00:40:27] * MJ94 [00:40:33] Exactly. Twinkle does not exist as a gadget [00:40:43] MJ94: also I'll now go with stupid ideas [00:40:48] try through http://www.vpnbook.com/webproxy [00:41:16] urm [00:41:20] MJ94: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:MJ94/global.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript%27 [00:41:32] yeah [00:41:53] Oh [00:41:58] would ya look at that [00:42:07] * lazowik not [00:42:09] MJ94: Should be resolved not [00:42:11] *now [00:42:25] 00:41, 20 July 2014 John F. Lewis (A) (talk | contribs | block) deleted page User:MJ94/common.js (Delete common.js due to Twinkle interfering with the interface) (view/restore) [00:46:25] YAY [00:46:28] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q122969&diff=146012604&oldid=145040954 [00:52:46] MJ94: :) [00:53:21] thanks, lazowik JohnLewis, etc [00:53:30] welcome [00:53:30] np :) [00:53:38] now if no one needs me; may I go? :p [00:53:52] JohnLewis: NO [00:53:57] :p [00:53:58] :( [00:54:05] 2am though :'( [00:55:07] 2bad4u [00:55:39] JohnLewis: I miss you. [00:56:32] tough [00:58:07] Wikidata is going to get addictive, fast. [00:59:47] hehe [01:25:38] Help. I can't stop. [01:26:05] I find data entry fun, so this is a good time waste for me. [01:30:29] MJ94: Been doing that also... [01:30:33] o/ [01:59:49] wb revent [01:59:53] o/ [02:00:01] So... no linking to a redirect? [02:00:18] revent: hmmmm? [02:00:53] i.e. [[en:Laurier (name)]] is a set index, covering the 'surname' and the 'given name' in different sections... [02:02:06] revent: You have 885 edits o.o [02:02:36] There are redirects Laurier (surname) and Laurier (given name)...that I made, to try to give 'targets' for seperate items in Wikidata, since having a item that is both a first name and a last name seems odd... [02:02:47] MJ94> Ye... [02:35:14] So, are we now 'supposed' to have sitelinks t hard redirects, or is this 'missing functionality? [03:42:14] http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=Q7191 <-- from related items [03:43:23] Seems to me like it should be 'instance of' [03:48:13] * MJ94 waves [03:49:38] Yeah, 'instance of' was added by an admin, others by random people... [03:50:48] revent: eh? I've been away [03:51:44] Relationships between the individual Nobel Prizes and the 'class' Nobel prize were dorked... [03:54:28] MJ94> Ping? [03:55:26] Hello, revent. [03:55:41] Dunno if you heard me... [03:57:03] Lol, the Nobel Peace Prize has a 'coordinate location'... [03:57:08] revent: Sorry, I guess I didn't realize that instance of comment was directed towards me. [03:57:26] revent: Why? o,o [03:57:51] MJ94> Because Persian Wikipedia says so, apparently... [03:58:29] It's also 'named after' both 'Alfred Nobel' and 'peace' [03:58:56] Which is all dorked... [03:59:31] The "Nobel Prizes" are named after Nobel, as a set, the individual prizes are instances of that class. [03:59:41] revent: would anyone fight me if I removed the coordinates? [03:59:42] o.o [03:59:55] I'm sure not, if you beat me to it. :P [04:00:46] revent: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q35637&diff=146031244&oldid=146031235 [04:00:47] :P [04:01:16] The individual prizes were all mixed up between 'instance of', 'part of', 'subclass of', and in some cases all three [04:01:33] Ohhhh [04:02:14] It def made reasonator look odd.. [04:03:12] lol [04:05:11] uh [04:05:24] If something has no label, what do we do? [04:06:03] label it.. :P [04:06:25] If we have no idea what to label it? [04:06:28] Look at the linked articles [04:06:47] Linked article is from zh. [04:06:48] lol [04:06:57] What itam? [04:07:00] *item [04:08:01] *points at translate.google.com [04:45:41] Seems like the best way to learn what properties to use would be to fix constraint violations... [04:45:58] Explain? [04:46:25] MJ94> Like 'field of work' isn't supposed to be a property of a person. [04:46:39] occupation, perhaps? [04:46:48] Yeah [04:47:10] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P101#Target_required_claim_P279 [05:18:11] Jasper_Deng: I think I got the hang of it. [05:18:24] it doesn't take that long [05:18:26] even [05:18:46] Jasper_Deng: Nope. [05:21:21] Jasper_Deng> Is there a way to test a specific item for constraint violations? [05:21:45] not that I know of, since constraints aren't technically enforced [05:56:05] [13Geo] 15adrianlang reopened pull request #8: Pass rawValue and expectedFormat arguments to ParseExceptions (06master...06augmentParseException) 02http://git.io/Ix68hQ [06:08:30] (03CR) 10Adrian Lang: "And entityStore, if you're at it." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145279 (owner: 10Adrian Lang) [06:59:13] revent: you can look at "what links here" and look for links from constraint violation reports [06:59:26] Lydia_WMDE: Nice! [07:01:28] Lydia_WMDE: That’s lagged though, right? Like run once a day? [07:01:36] yeah [10:02:10] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 20/07/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/147895 [10:10:01] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 20/07/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/147895 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:13:12] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 20/07/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/147895 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:14:46] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/147895 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:37:16] hey :) [10:41:07] o/ [10:43:26] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/147895 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [11:10:04] aude: around? :) [11:33:09] [13Time] 15addshore pushed 1 new commit to 06addParseAndFormat: 02http://git.io/hrV89Q [11:33:09] 13Time/06addParseAndFormat 14a7ed38f 15addshore: Move classes into DataValue\Time namespace [11:37:30] [13Time] 15addshore pushed 1 new commit to 06addParseAndFormat: 02http://git.io/ThEwYA [11:37:30] 13Time/06addParseAndFormat 146c73847 15addshore: Add alias for DataValues\TimeValue [11:53:08] [13Time] 15addshore 04force-pushed 06addParseAndFormat from 146c73847 to 1458bceb8: 02http://git.io/35Gxmw [11:53:08] 13Time/06addParseAndFormat 1498b700c 15addshore: Add alias for DataValues\TimeValue [11:53:08] 13Time/06addParseAndFormat 1458bceb8 15addshore: Add NumberUnlocalizer interface and basic implementation [11:59:34] !bug 68284 [12:00:29] hmm, we dont have that command. well... JohnLewis i have left a note there [12:00:39] and I replid [12:00:42] *replied [12:01:44] stupid mobile IRC. So slow to connect...then I have to apologise to bug you again! [12:01:57] It's alright [12:05:05] hi hoo [12:48:06] aude: When will the testwikidata as client deploy be tomorrow? [12:48:54] I was thinking... I could leave early tomorrow and be in the office at 1 or 2pm or leave late and be in the office on Tuesday :P [12:52:05] didn't schedule yet [12:52:11] would tuesday be better? [12:52:21] no, I was just thinking :P [12:52:34] I would ask Lydia, but she's probably celebrating her birthday right now [12:52:44] tuesday might be better because i didn't tell greg yet :p [12:53:50] as that is more of a risky deploy than a usual branch update, that might be a better idea [12:54:43] not that risky but like him to know more than him show up monday morning and we ask to do it now* [12:56:45] Ok... do we also want to move the branch update to the same window? [12:56:52] (the JS fix and maybe valueview update) [12:57:20] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deployments&diff=120406&oldid=120393 [12:57:35] sure [12:57:58] Feel free to add me to the window, I'll be around for sure [12:58:04] in the office, even [12:58:47] done [12:59:26] in other news... i'm poking at tests for hhvm [12:59:31] https://travis-ci.org/filbertkm/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/jobs/30390545 [13:00:21] if you spot any obvious reason why they still fail [13:00:48] ah [13:00:59] I poke Lydia about this yesterday [13:01:01] * poked [13:01:10] it's a combination (and/or) class aliases + interface usage/declaration being inconsistent [13:01:22] I didn't yet test it myself... first step is probably to have a VM with it compiled from github master [13:01:25] it => hhvm [13:01:29] some use Wikibase\EntityId some use Wikibase\DataModel\Entity\EntityId [13:01:36] yep [13:02:05] class_alias is one of the few things that I don't think anyone around wmf uses except of us [13:02:41] googling around https://github.com/doctrine/dbal/pull/373 and https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/issues/2740 [13:02:46] similar issues possibly [13:06:39] yeah... travis might not have the latest hhvm also [13:06:54] if Lydia wants, I guess I can fiddle around that soon [13:10:04] aude: "phpenv global hhvm-nightly" [13:10:14] that's what core does to get a more recent HHVM version on travis [13:10:16] did you try that? [13:12:41] ah [13:13:03] * aude tries [13:17:14] hello :) [13:17:42] There is a bad merge between a song and a person, https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1287647&action=history [13:17:49] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Should%27ve_Known_Better_%28Soluna_Samay_song%29 and https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%80%A7%E5%86%86%E6%B3%95%E8%A6%AA%E7%8E%8B [13:19:38] Okki: Wow, that’s screwed. [13:20:15] aude: Which version of Wikibase is that? [13:20:15] Fatal error: Cannot use Wikibase\DataModel\Entity\EntityId as EntityId because the name is already in use in /home/travis/build/filbertkm/phase3/extensions/Wikibase/repo/includes/content/EntityContentFactory.php on line 12 [13:20:27] that's not there on master AFAIS [13:25:25] hoo: my version [13:25:37] i don't get it though locally [13:25:51] that's very weird [13:26:05] i'm trying to make it so we don't use the alias [13:26:37] mh... we could change the aliases towards unsing fake inheritance [13:26:44] replaced the usage everywhere, searched and can't see where it's wong [13:26:46] wrong* [13:26:50] ah [13:27:04] we should also do something like that on master and phase out the old garbage aliases [13:27:11] they have been around for like forever now [13:28:01] if my changes work, i'll submit them to master [13:28:09] I'd love to do something like this, but my programming skills are almost nil. => http://www.robscanlon.com/encom-boardroom [13:28:13] already, hhvm is getting farther now [13:28:15] ok, but don't do one giantic commit :P [13:28:23] yes, one alias at a time [13:28:49] I'd favor to have all aliases changed at one but only in a few files each [13:28:58] that's easiest to review, i guess [13:29:02] but whatever [13:29:15] it's a problem having mixed [13:29:19] in Wikibase namespace [13:29:26] in other namespaces, fine [19:21:19] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/147976 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [19:25:12] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/Kk6djQ [19:25:12] 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06master 14d037965 15jeroendedauw: Fix invalid snaks-order exception [19:25:31] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/j6JWWA [19:25:31] 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06master 14910dbfb 15jeroendedauw: Do not run tests with PHPUnit strict mode [19:53:15] Jasper_Deng: Tamawashi is a train wreck in the making I'm afraid.... [19:53:31] you only noticed now? [19:53:47] I'm personally not optimistic for when his block expires in four hours [19:54:18] No, he's been on my radar since he messed up the Dutch provinces [19:55:18] out of all likelihood, he will immediately get blocked again when the block expires [19:55:34] because his entire attitude towards content disputes is unacceptable [19:55:45] That's what I think too yes [19:55:58] if he refuses to communicate with a user again; I'll not pause on blocking again really. [19:56:00] For some reason I think it is a new account of an old user [19:56:19] ofc if you have a socking accusation you must give evidence [19:56:23] CU isn't for fishing [19:56:46] Not saying he's doing that. For that he would have to have multiple accounts [19:57:00] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/j59KYA [19:57:00] 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 146fe8ef3 15jeroendedauw: Added extra test for Reference::getHash [19:57:01] More like someone who stopped contributing and is back again [19:57:59] I've seen that happen several times and sometimes it can be really good as a fresh start [19:58:57] well, he seems to have this habit of wiki hopping [19:59:19] after finding he doesn't fit with one wiki he moves on to another [19:59:26] although that seems to have happened only twice [19:59:56] at this point we can't really do anything. If he comes back to being disruptive after the block expires, he can be blocked again - if no admin at first notices, just ping one of us at AN. [20:00:01] or do it yourself [20:00:05] * Jasper_Deng remembers multichill is an admin here [20:00:57] Heading in early tonight and work tomorrow so by the time I come online again it will be tomorrow evening ;-) [20:01:55] Jasper_Deng: I'm watching him when he gets unblocked tbh [20:02:15] His tp is on my watchlist as is so if he reverts a user with no explaination - I'll get an email :) [20:37:43] is it possible to get an item by its GND Identifier? [20:37:54] * lbenedix is talking about persons [20:38:19] not from within Wikidata [20:38:37] there might be a tool that can do that somewhere, but I'm not aware of anything [20:44:23] will it be possible in the future? [20:44:58] and how long to wait for this future ;) [20:45:10] if GND identifier is a property, yes [20:45:22] it is [20:45:36] uh... not this long, but can't really give you a time line, as I'm not Lydia :P [20:45:46] ok [20:46:14] next question: what about the new dumps? when will a dump with history with the new json-format be available? [20:46:32] new Json dump: Hopefully tomorrow [20:46:39] json dump with history: not planned [20:47:08] but I heard, that the line in all dumps will be holding the new format [20:47:32] That's true, but that's still for the old xml dumps [20:47:36] you said json dumps [20:47:48] oh no, you didn't [20:47:55] Sorry :P [20:47:59] I said json-format and meant the representation of a wd-item in an xml dump ;) [20:48:03] no problem [20:48:27] Ok, then I also can't tell you when the next dump will be there [20:48:40] tomorrow we'll hopefully have a json dump at http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/wikidata/ [20:48:41] but it will be in the next dump/ [20:48:41] ? [20:48:47] but that will only include the current version [20:48:49] \o/ yay [20:49:00] I'll need this too [20:49:06] more dumps, more good [20:49:07] also not sure about that, I wasn't involved into that enough [20:49:14] aude will know [20:49:35] two exams tomorrow, than diving into the new wd-dumps... yay! [20:50:05] :) [22:14:01] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde closed pull request #128: protected -> private (06master...06private) 02http://git.io/dcIpRA [22:22:42] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/rxsIFg [22:22:42] 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06master 14fe91641 15jeroendedauw: Do not run composer update in test bootstrap [22:23:49] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/l6Ec5Q [22:23:49] 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06master 14f993c18 15jeroendedauw: Remove superfluous code that makes deserialization fail for no good reason [22:27:30] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/SOTiGw [22:27:30] 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06master 14bf23828 15jeroendedauw: Update dev dependency ranged for data-values components [22:31:57] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 2 new commits to 06master: 02http://git.io/FwXrCQ [22:31:57] 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06master 14cd39fe4 15jeroendedauw: Improve notation of data-model version range [22:31:57] 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06master 146ebed52 15jeroendedauw: 1.0.2 rel [22:33:25] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/master/6ebed52 : jeroendedauw The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/builds/30416837 [22:34:29] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/1.0.2/6ebed52 : jeroendedauw The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/builds/30416843 [22:36:44] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/CDH_mg [22:36:44] 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06master 14b0f3e47 15jeroendedauw: Do not allow dev versions of DM for now [22:38:19] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/master/b0f3e47 : jeroendedauw The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/builds/30417026 [23:08:12] [13WikibaseQuery] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06importcli: 02http://git.io/aCkSmw [23:08:12] 13WikibaseQuery/06importcli 146cd0850 15jeroendedauw: Use the latest version of the entity store [23:09:57] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQuery/importcli/6cd0850 : jeroendedauw The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQuery/builds/30418299 [23:13:47] [13WikibaseQuery] 15JeroenDeDauw 04force-pushed 06importcli from 146cd0850 to 143b5c881: 02http://git.io/pTiQzA [23:13:47] 13WikibaseQuery/06importcli 143b5c881 15jeroendedauw: Use the latest version of the entity store [23:15:43] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQuery/importcli/3b5c881 : jeroendedauw The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQuery/builds/30418455 [23:29:28] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQuery/importcli/3b5c881 : jeroendedauw The build failed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQuery/builds/30418455 [23:31:19] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQuery/importcli/3b5c881 : jeroendedauw The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQuery/builds/30418455