[03:45:07] (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Fix is a little ugly, but ok..." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155517 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69846) (owner: 10Aude) [03:45:27] where's wdjenkins [04:19:01] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06rmtd (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/G1pV0A [04:19:01] 13WikibaseDataModel/06rmtd 14685e94b 15jeroendedauw: Remove TODO... [04:21:25] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/rmtd/685e94b : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/33245934 [04:26:51] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #151: Make MapHasher package private (06master...06MapHasher) 02http://git.io/Tmp1Dg [04:30:19] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/MapHasher/6e2ad29 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/33246225 [04:36:10] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06rtds (+1 new commit): 02https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/commit/ff14ba990392 [04:36:10] 13WikibaseDataModel/06rtds 14ff14ba9 15jeroendedauw: Remove TODOs that are to narrow... [04:38:09] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06ref (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/r3S37Q [04:38:09] 13WikibaseDataModel/06ref 1433a3693 15jeroendedauw: Improve Reference::equals [04:39:54] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06statemnt (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/Snvjqg [04:39:54] 13WikibaseDataModel/06statemnt 14c9bf92e 15jeroendedauw: Make field access more efficient [04:40:09] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #155: Make field access more efficient (06master...06statemnt) 02http://git.io/SkXDrw [04:40:19] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/rtds/ff14ba9 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/33246577 [04:42:19] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/ref/33a3693 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/33246690 [04:42:37] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06entityidd (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/DdnPlg [04:42:37] 13WikibaseDataModel/06entityidd 140b5b664 15jeroendedauw: Improve EntityId::equals [04:43:55] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw 04force-pushed 06entityidd from 140b5b664 to 14de37a74: 02http://git.io/aWQVBg [04:43:55] 13WikibaseDataModel/06entityidd 14de37a74 15jeroendedauw: Improve EntityId::equals [04:45:23] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/statemnt/c9bf92e : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/33246830 [04:46:33] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/entityidd/0b5b664 : jeroendedauw The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/33246969 [04:49:42] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/entityidd/de37a74 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/33247061 [05:29:08] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/39mjSQ [05:29:08] 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 14fa508ef 15Jeroen De Dauw: Update README.md [05:47:34] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/PropertyDataValueTypeLookupException/f54a852 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/33249582 [05:52:00] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/rtd/54635e5 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/33249810 [05:55:13] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/6g5R_w [05:55:13] 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 144dfacaa 15jeroendedauw: This is not a change, since it only got introduced in 1.0 [05:55:22] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/rms/00ef41c : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/33249869 [05:57:09] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/rtodo/70725c9 : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/33249902 [06:40:25] (03PS26) 10Henning Snater: Revamped site links related JavaScript [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152875 [06:50:37] (03CR) 10Henning Snater: "The major bug should be fixed. It was a bug in the siteselector widget and not in this change's native code." (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152875 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [06:51:33] (03PS14) 10Henning Snater: Removed site link scraping from entityViewInit [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152953 [06:52:34] (03PS15) 10Henning Snater: Removed site link scraping from entityViewInit [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152953 [06:59:25] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw created 06statement (+5 new commits): 02http://git.io/ApkD1w [06:59:25] 13WikibaseDataModel/06statement 14debf0de 15jeroendedauw: Add StatementList [06:59:25] 13WikibaseDataModel/06statement 149528b8f 15jeroendedauw: Remove getBestClaimPerProperty from ClaimList... [06:59:25] 13WikibaseDataModel/06statement 1465e182a 15jeroendedauw: Move Statement from Claim to Statement sub NS [07:01:43] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152875 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [07:01:55] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModel/statement/28993cb : jeroendedauw The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/builds/33253406 [07:01:56] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw opened pull request #158: Add StatementList (06master...06statement) 02http://git.io/hsD6Vg [07:12:49] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152953 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [07:21:19] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152953 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:22:22] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Record usage of badges [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155276 (owner: 10Bene) [08:26:05] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde 04deleted 06rtds at 14ff14ba9: 02http://git.io/ACAx1A [08:27:26] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde 04deleted 06rmtd at 14685e94b: 02http://git.io/-vwrTA [08:27:47] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: Thiemo_WMDE is deleting all my branches! o_O [08:28:10] I'm just cleaning my inbox. Ctrl+A, delete. [08:29:06] JeroenDeDauw: Go and hold him!!! [08:29:34] After I finished dinner [08:29:40] ha! [08:30:02] <7YUAAGDFJ> [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde closed pull request #156: Improve EntityId::equals (06master...06entityidd) 02http://git.io/zH9auA [08:30:02] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/3saHZQ [08:30:02] 13WikibaseDataModel/06master 143dc0f07 15thiemowmde: Merge pull request #156 from wmde/entityidd... [08:30:02] <6JTAA8R5A> [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde 04deleted 06entityidd at 14de37a74: 02http://git.io/yWuR8g [08:30:30] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde closed pull request #154: Improve Reference::equals (06master...06ref) 02http://git.io/fypeKQ [08:31:58] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #151 146e2ad29: Isn't `MapValueHasher` removed now? 02http://git.io/WdGinQ [08:33:52] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #151 146e2ad29: This is not needed if it's in the same namespace, right? Just wondering, not a problem. 02http://git.io/c61ylA [08:34:59] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde closed pull request #151: Make MapHasher package private (06master...06MapHasher) 02http://git.io/Tmp1Dg [08:35:42] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/121329c : Thiemo Mättig (WMDE) The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33260489 [08:38:28] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde comment on pull request #155 14c9bf92e: Hm. This is what Daniel would call premature optimization. This is not "more efficient". If it is then you have found a bug in the compiler.... 02http://git.io/RFuXcw [08:38:38] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde closed pull request #155: Make field access more efficient (06master...06statemnt) 02http://git.io/SkXDrw [08:38:44] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15thiemowmde 04deleted 06statemnt at 14c9bf92e: 02http://git.io/gJTEMA [08:41:55] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #151 146e2ad29: Ah... I did not add this - PHPStorm did. And then it updated it when I moved the second thing. Guess it should do a check to see if it's still needed when it does that. 02http://git.io/bVK9Zw [08:42:53] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw comment on pull request #155 14c9bf92e: > the compiler... 02http://git.io/86GMmw [08:44:30] [13WikibaseDataModel] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06statement: 02http://git.io/EZm14Q [08:44:30] 13WikibaseDataModel/06statement 1459f1440 15jeroendedauw: Merge branch 'master' of github.com:wmde/WikibaseDataModel [09:03:41] Thiemo_WMDE: you forgot to merge https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/pull/158 ;p [09:04:34] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Drop 5.3 repo only travis build (in German) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155550 (owner: 10Aude) [09:05:01] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] protected -> private in JsonDumpGenerator [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155521 (owner: 10Aude) [09:05:24] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Handle MWContentSerializationException in JsonDumpGenerator [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155517 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69846) (owner: 10Aude) [09:05:31] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add method for generating json of individual entities in JsonDumpGenerator [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155520 (owner: 10Aude) [09:05:49] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Add method for generating json of individual entities in JsonDumpGenerator [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155520 (owner: 10Aude) [09:05:54] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: protected -> private in JsonDumpGenerator [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155521 (owner: 10Aude) [09:06:14] (03PS12) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add ApiConventionsTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/151659 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67407) (owner: 10Lucie Kaffee) [09:07:53] (03PS27) 10Henning Snater: Revamped site links related JavaScript [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152875 [09:15:05] (03PS16) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Removed site link scraping from entityViewInit [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152953 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:21:45] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/7062a0d : Jeroen De Dauw The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33263611 [09:22:05] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/Phpunit/d55b66d : Thiemo Mättig The build failed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/33264437 [09:32:39] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155517 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69846) (owner: 10Aude) [09:48:10] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/minindexes/3378aa5 : Thiemo Mättig The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/33266430 [09:50:53] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155520 (owner: 10Aude) [10:00:34] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 22/08/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155701 [10:08:19] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155521 (owner: 10Aude) [10:18:30] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 04-1] "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/151659 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67407) (owner: 10Lucie Kaffee) [10:21:32] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/this-math0/b4083b2 : Thiemo Mättig The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/33269154 [10:23:36] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155701 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:24:01] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] New Wikidata Build - 22/08/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155701 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:25:31] HURRAY! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/155643/1/resources/src/mediawiki/mediawiki.js [10:27:37] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152875 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [10:33:39] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: New Wikidata Build - 22/08/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155701 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:34:01] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [V: 032] "Browsertests are fine. Bug mentioned by Thiemo seems to be fixed. Please recheck." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152875 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [10:36:01] JeroenDeDauw: I guess we need to hit the submit button for a few patches [10:36:06] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152953 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [10:36:13] e.g. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/155517 [10:36:21] and dependencies [10:43:24] Thiemo_WMDE: are you re-checking https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/152875/? [10:56:02] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/669d410 : aude The build was broken. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33270937 [11:16:04] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Failed" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155701 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [11:54:29] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Wikinews_linking [11:55:31] someone who can parse this request (scroll down to explanation subsection, and then the next one)? I don't know what a property, an item, a topic category, a rule, etc are (and I would rather not learn as each new thing I learned so far hurts my head) [12:08:51] aude: benestar|cloud: what github repos were missing IRC notifications? I've just added the hook for WikimediaBadges. was there another one? [12:09:30] btw https://github.com/addshore/github-hook-controller does the work for you [12:10:39] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: don't have any permissions on github so doubt it [12:11:26] that was just a general info.. I did not mean you should do it [12:11:35] oh [12:11:43] https://github.com/wmde/Wikidata.org ? [12:11:53] oooh, that one i have settings [12:12:07] ok, I'll add it to the list and then run the script [12:12:09] https://github.com/wmde/WikimediaBadges no haz settings [12:13:19] aude: sure it haz: https://github.com/wmde/WikimediaBadges/settings/hooks [12:13:26] ah, you not haz? [12:13:28] :) [12:13:39] 404 [12:13:53] hm [12:13:58] ok [12:14:14] not that i ever need access to settings but never know, like adding the irc thing [12:14:27] and is odd to transfer things from my github to wmde and lose settings [12:14:53] aude: I'll see how to solve that [12:14:57] k [12:16:18] aude: can you try gain? [12:16:20] again [12:16:31] \o/ [12:17:38] aude: I need to restructure the teams on wmde github. need to do that together with abraham really soon [12:17:50] ok [12:18:23] * aude want settings for https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuildResources [12:18:38] since it came from my github, is used in vagrant, etc [12:21:56] aude: you should have now for all wikidata repos [12:22:02] \o/ thanks [12:22:09] can you check? [12:22:23] loosk good [12:22:26] ok [12:22:35] doubt i ever need them but never know [12:23:35] btw https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuildResources/pull/4 [12:25:37] also https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuilder/issues/25 [12:30:16] (03CR) 10Aude: "if this requires WikibaseSerializationJavaScript 1.1.2, do i have to do anything to my composer.json to get this? or need to manually chec" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152953 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [12:31:25] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/WY9A5Q [12:31:25] 13WikidataBuildResources/06master 1469b957c 15Tobi Gritschacher: Merge pull request #4 from wmde/badges... [12:31:30] yay [12:32:17] aude: WikibaseSerializationJavaScript 1.1.2 has already been released [12:32:25] so just composer update should do it [12:32:52] ok [12:33:40] aude: we do not need this anymore https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuildResources/pull/3 [12:33:45] no [12:33:51] it got forgotten :( [12:34:09] [13WikidataBuildResources] 15tobijat 04deleted 06suggester at 147368749: 02http://git.io/VIldVg [12:37:10] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 031] "If no objections by you Thiemo_WMDE, I'm going to merge this.." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152875 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [12:38:20] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: I dont want the class names to change, sorry. [12:39:16] Thiemo_WMDE: you think this is an issue big enough to block? [12:39:42] and i cant see the bugfix for the big issue. [12:40:30] and the css margin/padding issue (however, this can be fixed later). [12:41:19] how to proceed? [12:42:23] I was not able to reproduce the erroneous behaviour, did you check? [12:42:25] Thiemo_WMDE: [12:42:46] what's the bug? [12:43:03] aude: the one Thiemo_WMDE described in PS24 [12:43:14] patch? [12:43:17] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152875 [12:43:37] sorry, ps25 [12:43:40] aude: yes [12:44:12] trying [12:44:23] Thiemo_WMDE: this is the fix: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/152875/25..26/lib/resources/jquery.wikibase/jquery.wikibase.siteselector.js [12:44:30] * aude looking at later patches in the chain [12:44:35] so should have the bug [12:44:37] you just have to compare ps25 and ps26 [12:46:14] reproduced [12:46:18] i picked arwiki [12:46:22] tabbed [12:46:32] it's suggesting anwiki, including can see api calls [12:46:44] aude: can you check ps 27 of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152875 [12:47:37] i am on a later patch in the chain [12:47:49] so would include the patch in question [12:47:49] aude: did you rebae the chain? [12:47:56] otherwise the issue will still be there [12:48:22] aude: not if the chain issnt rebased and the dependencies are outdated [12:48:23] doing [12:48:38] i will checkout just https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/152875/ [12:49:03] aude: yes. let's do one thing after the other.. [12:49:08] :) [12:49:19] found a bug in later patch [12:49:35] aude: there are a lot, for sure.. :) [12:49:52] looks fixed [12:52:13] aude: what do you think about the css classes that changed its prefix from 'wb-' to 'wikibase-' ? [12:52:25] one sec [12:52:30] Thiemo_WMDE doesn't like it [12:52:33] let's see how much those are used [12:53:24] I think it improves readability and makes it easier to understand. the question is if it breaks lot's of stuff [12:53:30] external stuff [12:54:13] wb-sitelinks [12:54:25] http://dpaste.com/34W1KYY [12:55:46] (03CR) 10Aude: "wb-sitelinks is used in some gadgets:" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152875 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [12:55:56] aude: Thiemo_WMDE: on the other hand, as far as I can see, only new classes use the new prefix [12:56:15] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Could_we_link_topic_categories_to_articles.3F -- someone plz answer the last question [12:56:17] sorry, not correct. [12:56:30] we might want to check these gadgets [12:56:33] a lot of maintainence work involved into this and I am confused :-) [12:56:43] MediaWiki:Gadget-DraggableSitelinks.js is especially a nice one that people like afaik [12:57:01] [13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript] 15snaterlicious pushed 1 new commit to 06multilingualunserializer: 02http://git.io/CKk6Gw [12:57:01] 13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript/06multilingualunserializer 1469bcd5e 15snaterlicious: Added SnakListUnserializer [12:57:04] Thiemo_WMDE: link? [13:00:27] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "with this patch, it seems the translations for each site link group heading is lost. (they are there in non-js)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153564 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [13:14:33] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "* The big blocker issue is fixed." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152875 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [13:18:46] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Stop using the Wikibase\ByPropertyIdArray alias [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155510 [13:19:50] aude: what's the best way to let gadget developers know about braking changes in advance? [13:20:36] Lydia_WMDE: ^^ [13:20:57] contact them individually [13:21:08] since it's a small numbet [13:21:09] r [13:21:25] aude: via their talk-page? [13:21:29] yes [13:21:32] ok [13:21:40] some are bene* gadgets [13:21:48] maybe [13:22:49] and 2-3 other people [13:23:10] aude: we are not going to deploy a new build next week, right? [13:23:20] we just switch on the new serialization [13:23:23] only with wikimediabadges added [13:23:23] correct? [13:23:36] suppose i do that monday [13:23:56] and we enable the beta feature (config) [13:24:31] btw, new serialization is on test wikdiata now [13:24:33] wikidata* [13:27:20] [13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript] 15snaterlicious pushed 1 new commit to 06multilingualunserializer: 02http://git.io/HsHKJw [13:27:20] 13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript/06multilingualunserializer 14da6316b 15snaterlicious: Added ReferenceUnserializer [13:27:33] where is "#property parser function" deployed atm? (also asked at #wikimedia-tech but you might know here too) [13:27:38] dont see it working at ru.wn [13:27:50] gives script error, #property is undefined [13:28:30] Svetlana: wikinews only has sitelinks [13:28:48] when will that function be deployed? [13:28:57] we usually deploy in 2 steps [13:29:04] how long apart? [13:29:13] have to ask Lydia_WMDE but probably a month or two later [13:30:47] aude: ok, so we would then break gadges during the deployment on sept. 2nd [13:30:54] yes [13:31:21] [13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript] 15snaterlicious 04force-pushed 06multilingualunserializer from 14da6316b to 146a705a7: 02http://git.io/is_rIw [13:31:21] 13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript/06multilingualunserializer 146a705a7 15snaterlicious: Added ReferenceUnserializer [13:31:50] no opinion really if it's better to change the css class names + update gadgets, since it improves things [13:31:58] or not to do so [13:32:03] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155510 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:32:13] aude: we will break them in any case [13:32:17] ok [13:32:23] so it doesn't matter [13:32:40] aude: thanks. Lydia_WMDE, wikinews has sitelinks now, how long to wait until #property is also deployed? [13:32:52] and this is not surprising as we completely redesigned the ui [13:32:55] afaik, she's in a meeting [13:33:00] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: sure [13:34:18] Svetlana: i would say a month we could enable it, what do you think Tobi_WMDE_SWE ? [13:34:42] Svetlana: would also include lua, btw [13:35:24] aude: I guess so. unless Lydia_WMDE has strong objections [13:35:29] * aude nods [13:37:44] [13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript] 15snaterlicious 04force-pushed 06multilingualunserializer from 146a705a7 to 147d83714: 02http://git.io/is_rIw [13:37:44] 13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript/06multilingualunserializer 147d83714 15snaterlicious: Added ReferenceUnserializer [13:40:22] [13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript] 15snaterlicious 04force-pushed 06multilingualunserializer from 147d83714 to 14e7b38b8: 02http://git.io/is_rIw [13:40:22] 13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript/06multilingualunserializer 14e7b38b8 15snaterlicious: Added ReferenceUnserializer [13:40:33] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: check, this is cool https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/pull/512 [13:41:22] (03PS3) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Drop/replace some pointless assert() [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155247 [13:42:06] Svetlana: at least anothr month probably longer [13:48:16] [13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript] 15snaterlicious pushed 1 new commit to 06multilingualunserializer: 02http://git.io/_yfUVQ [13:48:16] 13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript/06multilingualunserializer 14d60bffa 15snaterlicious: Added EntityIdUnserializer [13:55:43] Lydia_WMDE: thanks. I did say "a month or two" to them at a local village pump. [13:55:54] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155247 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:56:02] k :) [13:56:11] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] "* Created a bug for the style issue with the tooltip icon: bug 69901" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152875 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [13:56:19] boom [13:57:33] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "The 1.1.2 version of the component has already been released. No need to adjust composer.json as the version is already included." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152953 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [13:58:36] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/65f373a : Tobias Gritschacher The build has errored. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33284611 [13:58:59] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "I rechecked all assert() I removed and I'm now 100% sure they can be removed. Some of them are very obvious (at least to me, see my inline" (037 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155247 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:59:25] (03PS17) 10Henning Snater: Removed site link scraping from entityViewInit [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152953 [14:02:51] (03PS11) 10Henning Snater: Optimized jQuery.wikibase.sitelinkview.isInitialValue [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152956 [14:03:30] (03PS8) 10Henning Snater: Propagating editable state in SiteLinksView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153394 [14:04:36] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 031] "still need to check browsertests" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152956 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [14:21:56] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152953 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [14:26:25] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Stop using EntityDiff and ItemDiff aliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155515 [14:32:17] (03PS4) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Stop using the Wikibase\References and ReferenceList aliases [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155519 [14:34:23] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Stop using the Wikibase\Reference alias [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155523 [14:39:13] hey :) [14:39:20] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Replace assert() with actual PHPUnit assertions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155248 [14:39:24] Lydia_WMDE: check your *sent* email [14:40:03] lazowik: bah :P [14:40:33] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152956 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [14:40:39] [Wikidata-l] [Wikidata] weekly summary [14:40:41] two lists [14:40:51] or just fake tags [14:40:56] too much eh? [14:41:08] Nemo_bis: indeed [14:41:32] Nemo_bis: yeah, I just reciewed info from NSA that Lydia_WMDE send a mail with that topic to [Wikidata] [14:41:38] haha [14:41:38] *received [14:42:34] * lazowik looks for anything embarassing in the doc [14:42:47] lol [14:43:03] Lydia_WMDE: so people already pointed the email out to you? :p [14:43:13] JohnLewis: -.- [14:43:16] :P [14:43:42] and now we can see Lydia_WMDE joined to delete any embarassing things :D [14:44:09] lazowik: I already deleted the embarassing stuff I added :p [14:44:21] haha [14:44:26] JohnLewis: but it's still in my head [14:44:28] and JeroenDeDauw's [14:44:29] there's nothing embarrasing in there [14:44:31] just boring stuff [14:44:35] and a few cat pictures [14:44:52] JohnLewis: also there is that screenshot somewhere on the interwebs [14:45:53] lazowik: where I said JeroenDeDauw did PHP not drugs as well :D [14:46:25] SO MANY PEOPLE [14:46:30] JohnLewis: catch me if you can :D [14:46:40] Lydia_WMDE: how could you expose the secret place where people go to aruge among themselves :( [14:46:55] *sob* [14:47:10] I don't even know the permissions that doc has anyway xD [14:47:17] anyone can view [14:47:23] special people can edit [14:47:24] ;-) [14:47:38] :( [14:47:40] I'm special :D [14:47:52] * Lydia_WMDE hands sjoerddebruin a cookie [14:47:52] Some say I'm special... :/ [14:47:55] Lydia_WMDE leaked THE document!!! PANIC!! [14:48:03] hah! [14:48:21] Lydia_WMDE: oh so that's what Wikidata is :p [14:48:43] this will follow me for the next 10 years... :D [14:48:46] I keep trying to use -l's password on that list. Knowing you it would probably work anyway :p [14:49:06] lol [14:49:06] [Are these CC images?] [14:49:06] >> Seriously? Who puts a license on a lolcat? They are licensed “interwebs, no one cares” [14:49:06] >>>> Of course we can just get an office cat and fix this lack of cc lolcats ourselves [14:49:09] that's not my list [14:49:23] Lydia_WMDE: 'Authorization failed.' :'( [14:49:27] * Stryn heard someone saying leaked [14:49:28] i no! [14:49:28] change the password pls :D [14:49:42] But, you want a summary? :O [14:49:43] lazowik: obviously a big problem [14:49:56] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Stop using the Wikibase\EntityId alias [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155728 [14:51:37] Tssssssks [14:54:08] i'll go home now and be back in like 45 mins. don't do anything bad in the meantime :D [14:54:16] like editing that item [14:54:18] :P [14:54:21] Lydia_WMDE: You must love this. No one says anything when you do good; but that one time you forward a non-urgent-secret document to a public mailing list - you're killed on IRC :D [14:54:37] yes yes :P [14:54:44] well it at least shows people are reading my emails [14:54:46] \o/ [14:55:06] like the 40 people viewing the document right now or so :p [14:55:26] :P [14:55:28] laters [14:58:02] JohnLewis: that 40 is actually 2 [14:58:05] you and me… [14:58:19] and I'm sorry if I killed Lydia_WMDE :( [14:58:23] didn't want to :(( [15:00:22] lazowik: 40 is the new 2 ofc [15:01:13] JohnLewis: ur saying that Austria is haz control all the world?? [15:01:17] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q40 [15:01:28] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2 [15:01:30] oO [15:01:40] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "I don't think I'm allowed to +2 this now that I added some changes. Hoo?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/151854 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [15:01:57] lazowik: yes! [15:02:47] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153394 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [15:05:40] (03PS11) 10Henning Snater: Implemented jQuery.wikibase.sitelinkgroupview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153564 [15:06:00] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implemented jQuery.wikibase.sitelinkgroupview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153564 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [15:06:05] (03PS12) 10Henning Snater: Implemented jQuery.wikibase.sitelinkgroupview [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153564 [15:06:25] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "Since this is introducing a new base class I would like to have a second team member have a look at this. It's fine for me, so feel free t" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155060 (owner: 10Bene) [15:06:50] (03PS1) 10Aude: Purge interwiki memcached entries in populateInterwiki script [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155734 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69903) [15:11:54] [13WikibaseDataModelJavascript] 15thiemowmde closed pull request #9: Name module "init" instead of "__namespace" (06master...06InitNamespace) 02http://git.io/p0vIlQ [15:11:56] (03Abandoned) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Name module "init" instead of "__namespace" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146185 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [15:12:24] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 031 V: 032] "Browsertests ok." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152953 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [15:14:35] lazowik: it should of course! [15:14:51] heh [15:26:23] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032 V: 032] "Browsertests passed." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152956 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [15:27:02] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155515 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [15:35:09] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 04-1] "Ouch. Items don't have Claims any more. Turn off JavaScript to see that." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154322 (owner: 10Bene) [15:35:10] [13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript] 15snaterlicious pushed 1 new commit to 06multilingualunserializer: 02http://git.io/kGNxvg [15:35:10] 13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript/06multilingualunserializer 141ca59fd 15snaterlicious: Added SnakUnserializer [15:37:19] [13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript] 15snaterlicious 04force-pushed 06multilingualunserializer from 141ca59fd to 1443d7add: 02http://git.io/is_rIw [15:37:19] 13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript/06multilingualunserializer 1443d7add 15snaterlicious: Added SnakUnserializer [15:38:28] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155519 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [15:40:57] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Refactor duplicate code in EntityView and related [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155737 [15:41:04] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Refactor duplicate code in EntityView and related [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155737 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [15:43:53] Thiemo_WMDE: ??? [15:44:03] what will I see when I turn off javascript? [15:44:09] no claims? [15:44:19] that items dont show their statements any more. ;) [15:46:45] Thiemo_WMDE: argh, so the claims' HTML gets created by JavaScript? [15:46:56] both, yes. [15:47:01] because I saw statements on my local wiki ;) [15:47:09] does your follow up fix that [15:47:10] javascript recreates it. this may change in the future. [15:47:11] ? [15:47:24] yes, followup fixes it. [15:48:00] and more important we want a nojs veryion, right? [15:48:21] indeed ;) [15:48:32] also, I hope it will change in future... [15:48:51] the loading times are still very long and my computer dies when loading big items [15:49:35] or the js can stop recreating things someday [15:49:41] * aude hopes [15:50:10] * benestar too [15:51:19] rageeeee [15:51:26] beta broken again [15:52:26] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155523 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [15:52:49] why is git pull so slow for me? [16:00:06] benestar: share your information about it on bugzilla please, it's a recurring topic [16:00:27] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56034 [16:00:43] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155248 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [16:02:26] Nemo_bis: I rather think it's my local machine but maybe also the servers [16:02:44] * benestar urgently needs a new laptop [16:03:20] benestar: well, even just top should tell you :) [16:03:39] sometimes it is gerrit [16:05:47] aude: can you recommend apple notebooks for development stuff? [16:06:31] !seen Amir1 [16:09:20] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155728 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [16:10:37] benestar: Apple for everything. <3 [16:10:49] * benestar not convinced :P [16:14:09] benestar: nooooooooooooooooooo! :D [16:14:16] don't go to the dark and nonfree side [16:14:39] * Lydia_WMDE hugs her sony vaio [16:14:57] * benestar has no idea which notebook to take really... [16:15:33] perhaps much RAM and a good processor [16:17:13] (03PS12) 10Bene: Refactor claims code out of EntityView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154322 [16:17:44] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153564 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [16:17:45] [13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript] 15snaterlicious 04force-pushed 06multilingualunserializer from 1443d7add to 14012fa2d: 02http://git.io/is_rIw [16:17:45] 13WikibaseSerializationJavaScript/06multilingualunserializer 14012fa2d 15snaterlicious: Added SnakUnserializer [16:19:37] (03PS2) 10Bene: Refactor duplicate code in EntityView and related [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155737 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [16:23:55] benestar: you did not fixed the bug, ikts just a rebase, right? [16:24:58] Thiemo_WMDE: yes, you fixed the bug in the follow up ;) [16:25:15] but, but, but, ... i have to merge a buggy change set then... ;))) [16:25:18] so I will merge yours when as soon as mine get merged [16:25:35] Thiemo_WMDE: I'm not sure, maybe we can merge your patch into my one [16:25:35] your +2 first. [16:25:39] ok [16:25:51] no, its ok. [16:26:14] Thiemo_WMDE: so if I +2 and submit your patch, does it get merged automatically when you submit my patch? [16:26:34] +2 never automatically merges since a few days. [16:27:05] Thiemo_WMDE: and submitting a patch which depends on something else? [16:27:10] what happens then? [16:27:49] im not exactly sure. [16:28:26] seems you can freely +2 whatever you like. nothing happens. there will be a merge button, but only in the right order as far as i understood. [16:35:33] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153564 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [16:43:34] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155734 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69903) (owner: 10Aude) [16:51:19] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155737 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [16:55:11] stupid question: [16:55:22] the dumps will switch to the new version on aug 26, right? [16:55:43] will that include new dumps of old revisions made before aug 26? [16:56:01] dennyvrandecic: the xml dumps, yes. and also for old revisions yes [16:56:08] oh sweet [16:56:41] so if i can throw away any code reading the old revision format? the only place it should appear is in old dumps [16:57:09] just curious, how the heck are you doing that? you have a transformer in between? or do you change the oldrev table? [16:57:24] special:export transforms [16:57:32] ah ok [16:57:41] cool, thanks! [16:57:43] np [16:59:29] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154322 (owner: 10Bene) [17:07:53] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155737 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [17:15:17] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Refactor nested loop in entityViewInit [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155757 [17:15:27] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Removed site link scraping from entityViewInit [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/152953 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [17:15:34] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Refactor nested loop in entityViewInit [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155757 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [17:26:40] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Propagating editable state in SiteLinksView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153394 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [17:27:04] (03PS2) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Refactor nested loop in entityViewInit [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155757 [17:29:50] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Please note that the no-JS bug I mentioned above is not fixed here. My following patch fixes it. If somebody can hit +2 on my follow-up we" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154322 (owner: 10Bene) [17:30:20] Thiemo_WMDE: I'm currently reviewing your patch... [17:31:02] benestar: ok. but i have to leave now. hunger. [17:31:31] Thiemo_WMDE: but you can merge after that ;) [17:33:12] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155757 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [17:41:59] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155757 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [18:05:33] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/5f75a76 : Henning Snater The build failed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33303627 [18:16:30] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/ff2c458 : Henning Snater The build failed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/33303789 [19:37:04] hoi ... I am around for a few hours [20:16:31] (03CR) 10Bene: [C: 032] "tested locally" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155737 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [20:34:30] Lydia_WMDE: did some more people complain about the multiselect field? [20:35:07] no [20:37:30] Lydia_WMDE: and did Erik respond to your mail? [20:38:40] not yet no [20:38:50] :D [20:42:13] benestar: I use macs [20:42:27] to have unix & not to have to worry too much [20:42:41] linux didn't appear enough stable for me [20:42:56] lazowik: so basically mac is linux for the lazy ones? :P [20:42:57] and I also do some audio/video stuff [20:43:14] maybe that's because I use gentoo :D [20:43:24] and maybe times have changed a bit [20:43:34] I remember using first releases of KDE 4.x [20:43:57] with notifications floating all around (i.e. popping in the wrong place) [20:44:36] benestar: if we take all the open source and free software things aside [20:44:49] phabricator docs put it quite nice [20:45:06] "os x is an acceptable flavour of linux" [20:45:24] (ofc. it's not linux, they're joking around) [20:45:34] there is one thing though [20:45:45] if you want good specs, macs are pricey [20:45:57] benestar: my advice is as follows [20:46:36] if you want to not worry too much about updates breaking something and can gather come cash [20:46:39] get a mac [20:46:57] otherwise get high-end thinkpad [20:47:26] they're great for intense usage [20:47:45] yeah, that's what I also concluded with [20:47:51] either lenovo or apple [20:48:52] I see redirects. :O [20:49:35] Lydia_WMDE: btw, is this also part of the ui redesign? http://snag.gy/c7ab5.jpg :P [20:50:13] sjoerddebruin: does merge.js already create redirects automatically? [20:51:51] benestar: ofc, making weird buttons is top of the list! [20:55:09] The Wikidata-game does I think. [21:04:55] JohnFLewis: sjoerddebruin: just added a cool button to RdfHelper :) [21:05:00] :O [21:05:15] benestar: My favourite bit of the new design. :-) [21:05:17] now fixing my bot to also mark redirected items as done [21:10:13] benestar: It's a new feature [21:10:19] you can now edit background [21:10:35] xD [21:11:32] JeroenDeDauw: we've got to get unite and fight to defend cats in the role of interwebs masterz! [21:11:42] forgs are attacking! [21:11:42] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBkWhkAZ9ds [21:54:54] Lydia_WMDE: I've found a new tool for you [21:55:03] you can now bribe your devs all the time! [21:55:04] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RuPjqBkD2g