[00:05:39] Hmm. Is there a good tool for finding items without labels/descriptions in your language so you can fill them in? [00:23:46] James_F: "Mr. Forrester is a product manager at the Wikimedia Foundation, focused on improving Wikipedia's editing experience, and has also been a very active participant on Wikidata from the beginning." [00:23:48] Is that correct? [00:25:04] harej: Sure. [00:25:18] (Is there a better description?) [06:33:02] James_F|Away: https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-terminator/ [07:18:10] aude: install path issue with the build tests should be fixed [07:33:45] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] (mw1.24-wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159056 (owner: 10Aude) [07:44:58] yay [07:55:43] (03PS3) 10Aude: Use DataValueFactory::tryNewFromArray in legacy SnakSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159047 [07:55:51] (03PS3) 10Aude: Use invalid UnDeserializableValue in DataModelSerializationRoundtripTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159029 [08:05:43] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use invalid UnDeserializableValue in DataModelSerializationRoundtripTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159029 (owner: 10Aude) [08:11:56] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "I think wikibase.client.css is only used by the "add links" widget and thus this change has no effect on recent changes and watchlist." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159070 (owner: 10Amire80) [08:18:41] hi aude [08:18:43] thanks for the review [08:18:54] I wonder what made me think that that css file is the right one.... [08:19:16] I do admit that I didn't really test the file - I just tested it in the dev tools :) [08:19:26] we have too many [08:19:31] confusing [08:23:53] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032 V: 031] Don't allow link IDs to jumble RTL RecentChanges [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159185 (owner: 10Amire80) [08:26:40] (03PS6) 10Henning Snater: Eliminated global events [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157794 [08:29:12] (03PS2) 10Amire80: Don't let entity links jumble RTL watchlists [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159070 [08:29:40] (03PS2) 10Amire80: Don't allow link IDs to jumble RTL RecentChanges [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159185 [08:34:01] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Don't let entity links jumble RTL watchlists [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159070 (owner: 10Amire80) [08:34:53] (03PS10) 10Aude: Add tests for api xml format [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158994 [08:40:42] aude: Thanks for the review again! [08:41:54] thanks for the patches! [08:41:59] didn't realize the problem [08:47:04] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Don't let entity links jumble RTL watchlists [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159070 (owner: 10Amire80) [08:47:48] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Don't allow link IDs to jumble RTL RecentChanges [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159185 (owner: 10Amire80) [08:48:36] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add tests for api xml format [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158994 (owner: 10Aude) [08:59:25] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/835d2df : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/34792016 [09:08:27] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/c4e92bb : jenkins-bot The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/34792071 [10:00:30] (03PS1) 10WikidataBuilder: New Wikidata Build - 09/09/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159268 [10:04:23] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: no daily? [10:04:44] reeeeeeeeview! https://github.com/DataValues/Serialization/pull/6 [10:04:45] aude: :) [10:05:05] or else master is broken [10:05:20] [13WikibaseDataModelJavascript] 15snaterlicious created 06fingerprint (+7 new commits): 02http://git.io/GJ4AOA [10:05:20] 13WikibaseDataModelJavascript/06fingerprint 1415c247c 15snaterlicious: Prevent using init.mw.php as entry point [10:05:20] 13WikibaseDataModelJavascript/06fingerprint 149f52b51 15snaterlicious: Renamed namespace.js to __namespace.js [10:05:20] 13WikibaseDataModelJavascript/06fingerprint 1418651e5 15snaterlicious: Added Term [10:05:20] and without tests for broken parts [10:09:48] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] New Wikidata Build - 09/09/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159268 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:16:28] (03CR) 10WikidataJenkins: [V: 032] "Build Successful" [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159268 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:23:05] [13WikibaseDataModelJavascript] 15snaterlicious pushed 1 new commit to 06fingerprint: 02http://git.io/WPA8QQ [10:23:05] 13WikibaseDataModelJavascript/06fingerprint 14f5c3401 15snaterlicious: Updated @since tags [10:36:30] (03Abandoned) 10Aude: New Wikidata Build - 09/09/2014 10:00 [extensions/Wikidata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159268 (owner: 10WikidataBuilder) [10:36:30] DanielK_WMDE: reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeview! https://github.com/DataValues/Serialization/pull/6 [10:36:42] and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/159029/ [10:39:08] aude: can you send me the bug for the in other projects caching issue? [10:41:34] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70482 [10:41:47] * aude make patch now that can go into master [10:44:34] [13Serialization] 15brightbyte closed pull request #6: Handle IllegalValueException in DataValueDeserializer (06master...06illegalvalue) 02http://git.io/IF21yQ [10:44:42] [13Serialization] 15brightbyte 04deleted 06illegalvalue at 14ceefaf1: 02http://git.io/_cKpLg [10:45:01] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: can you make tags [10:45:12] https://github.com/DataValues/Serialization [10:45:12] of what? [10:45:23] and https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization [10:45:46] aude: did you update the release notes? I can't find anything? [10:45:50] then no [10:45:52] no [10:46:50] aude: can you please add it to the release notes? [10:46:59] and specify the version it should be [10:47:06] should be minor, right? [10:47:10] not a breaking change [10:48:06] i think minor [10:49:01] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "What worries me is that the way the key for the parser cache is constructed is really complicated. If we are not providing the exact right" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158879 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70482) (owner: 10Aude) [11:01:16] hey guys, Can i read data of wikipedia through wikidata in my application ? [11:02:12] what is "data of wikipedia"? [11:02:43] Data in use on Wikipedia? Sometimes. Data coming from Wikipedia? Yes, if Amir1_ or some other bot hero has imported it. [11:03:05] Nemo_bis: hey! [11:03:22] Amir1_: hey dude, are you Iranian by any chance ? [11:03:30] what's up? What kind of data needs to be imported? [11:03:38] lxsameer: Yes [11:04:13] Amir1_: Is it ok to continue in persian [11:04:15] Amir1_: I don't know, lxsameer expressed interest in "read[in] data of wikipedia through wikidata in my application" [11:04:17] *Persian [11:04:32] lxsameer: sure [11:04:54] Amir1_: khubi dust e aziz [11:04:54] it's always ok to use non-English languages on Wikimedia channels :) /me observes [11:05:11] mamnun :) [11:05:30] Amir1_: man darke dorosti az wikidata nadaram, ta unjai ke midunam backend e data e wikipedia e, doroste ta inja ? [11:05:47] bale [11:06:39] wikidata dar asl yek bakhshi az dataye wikipedia ast ke mishe roosh amaliat anjam dad [11:06:55] lxsameer: machine-processable data [11:07:10] vali hame data haye wikipedia nist [11:07:45] Amir1_: ow, khob hala sakhtaresh chejurie ? yani masalan man ba ye bakhshe khasi az data e wikipedia niaz daram, az koja mitunam befahmam ke aya in data tu wikidata hast ya na [11:08:14] ba check kardan iteme vesl shode behesh [11:08:23] maslan USA ==> Q30 [11:08:46] ke albate America toye wiki farsi ham be Q30 vasl mishe [11:10:24] Amir1_: sorry , vali man kolan wikipedia baz nistam, agar maghalei mishnasi ke fekr mikoni komakam mikone mishe lotf koni ke bekhunam [11:10:38] hmm [11:10:47] bezar check konam [11:10:52] Amir1_: mamnunam [11:12:09] :) khahesh [11:12:47] lxsameer: ta man begardam peyda konam shoma in mesalo bebin: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30 [11:12:58] Amir1_: mersi [11:18:00] lxsameer: yek chizi: miduni infobox chie? yek jabe koochik baghale kheili az maghale ha ke masalan in rood chand kilometere, etc. [11:18:58] Amir1_: are didamesh , ama khob faghat didam [11:19:25] khob hadafe nahaye wikidata ine ke in infobox ha bara hame zaboon ha khodkar tolid beshan [11:19:40] oon dast az etelata ro bara wikipedia faraham mikone [11:20:06] masalan dar more yek adam inke zanesh kie, bache hash kian, koja be donya oomade, che tarikhi [11:20:12] inha toye wikidata store mishe [11:20:27] va bara wikipedia ghabele estefadast [11:20:32] lxsameer: ^ [11:21:26] Amir1_: aha pas dar vaghe wikidata ye cross reference az etelaate wikipedia e, doroste ? [11:22:08] are vali ba in tafavot ke data machine processable ast yani mishe (khahad shod) ke az data query begiri [11:22:17] ke kia che tarikhi be donya oomadan [11:22:30] ya shahrhaye balay yek milion jamiat list shan [11:22:31] Amir1_: kheyli alie, [11:22:34] are :) [11:22:48] Amir1_: hala ye soal e dige, sharmande ke daram por chunegi mikonam [11:23:02] in che harfie khoshal misham [11:23:24] Amir1_: man ye seri data ro az wiki pedia niaz daram , masalan un bakhshe (On this day) tu home page, behtarin rah vase inke un data ro begiram chie ? [11:23:57] dump reading baladi? [11:24:04] chon alan query nemishe gereft [11:27:13] Amir1_: na , dump reading ? [11:27:39] kole wikipedia ya wikidata toye yek file txt zip shode [11:28:05] oono ba code bekhuni engar ke kole wikipedia ro mikhuni [11:28:41] yek joor query gereftan mishe [11:31:40] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/_NH7UQ [11:31:40] 13WikibaseDataModelSerialization/06master 1497f0ea9 15Tobi Gritschacher: version 1.1.1 [11:33:07] Amir1_: dump ina ro midunam, manzuram in bud ke nemidunam az wikipedia chejuri dump begiram [11:33:21] lxsameer: niazi nist [11:33:37] http://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/20140823 [11:33:51] [13Serialization] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/onNlcw [11:33:51] 13Serialization/06master 148d85624 15Tobi Gritschacher: added release notes for 1.0.1 [11:35:28] Amir1_: mersi , agha eshgal nadare age badan soal dashtam mozahemet besham ? [11:35:34] [13ValueView] 15tobijat closed pull request #115: Action handling (06master...06actionhandling) 02http://git.io/fh73pA [11:35:53] lxsameer: hatman e-mailam ladsgroup dar gmail ast [11:37:05] Amir1_: mersi, alan ye email mizanam ke shoma ham mail e mano dashte bashin ( bishtar vase inke mailetun tu contactam zakhire she :P) [11:37:25] :) [13:16:38] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: Henning_WMDE can you tell me if "fingerprint" view is supposed to look like http://snag.gy/kCWXQ.jpg ? [13:16:45] i purged the page, added debug=true [13:16:57] what am i doing wrong? [13:18:06] supposed to have aliases in there? [13:18:14] I am sorry, in fact, it does not get any better currently. [13:18:22] hmmmm [13:18:39] Using the same widget like in the header. [13:18:48] i seee [13:18:51] see* [13:29:15] (03PS3) 10Daniel Kinzler: Extract handlers for ParserOutput hooks [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159078 [13:29:16] (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Extract skin hook handlers into ParserOutputHooks [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159295 [13:37:36] aude: can you link to the RFC in the bug and then close it? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68028 [13:38:18] JeroenDeDauw: could you look at https://github.com/wmde/AskWikitextSerialization/pull/1 again? [13:39:05] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Extract skin hook handlers into ParserOutputHooks [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159295 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [13:40:54] [13WikibaseDataModelJavascript] 15snaterlicious pushed 1 new commit to 06fingerprint: 02http://git.io/nNa7Dg [13:40:54] 13WikibaseDataModelJavascript/06fingerprint 146bdb65d 15snaterlicious: Added SiteLinkList [13:41:58] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: done [13:43:29] aude: thx! [13:44:20] aude: yes, the fingerprintview is supposed to look like that, the related bugs were/are https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70033 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69841 [13:45:00] it just combines the three widges we have in the header section: label, description and aliases view [13:48:29] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: probably folks will think there is a bug [13:48:39] a lot more scrolling to get to the statements [13:48:52] nice that it's all editable together though [13:49:23] would it be ok if i poked at the css? [13:49:28] aude: folks requested to have aliases in the term boxes, so folks should be happy. :D [13:49:36] I love it. ;) [13:49:43] ok [13:50:01] And if there are complaints, make a gadget to hide it. [13:51:14] aude: not sure if it's worth to poke the css. probably if it is a few-minutes task you can give it a try. but it will be changed anyhow to the new layout. not sure when though. [13:51:31] you can use the TOC to scroll to statements [13:51:40] :/ [13:52:19] The TOC with three lines here. [13:52:33] why does it show me 4 language? [13:52:34] s [13:52:56] aude: don't see this on the screenshot.. [13:53:01] my babel boxes [13:53:12] aude: that's a good reason [13:53:14] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: that's because you have to scroll [13:53:24] you can't scroll in screenshot [13:53:32] if you have 100 languages enabled in babel, it shows you all of them.. ;) [13:53:38] omg [13:53:45] !omg [13:53:50] hah [13:53:52] >_> [13:54:18] aude: because if you speak 100 languages, you should add labels descriptions and aliases in all of them [13:54:20] :D [13:54:37] !omg is http://jeroendedauw.github.io/slides/craftmanship/static/img/omg-cat.gif [13:54:37] Key was added [13:55:04] i think it should show me 3 and then have "more" [13:55:21] and then show me more, give me a widget, take me to a special page to edit them all [13:55:21] !omg | Tobi_WMDE_SWE [13:55:21] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: http://jeroendedauw.github.io/slides/craftmanship/static/img/omg-cat.gif [13:55:27] :D [13:55:27] aude: feature request. ;) [13:55:44] ok [13:56:19] aude: agree with having them collapsible in some way [13:56:30] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: also, i get js error when not in debug mode [13:56:33] is that just me? [13:56:35] but we should have a look at the mockups for the new UI [13:56:43] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: ok [13:56:49] But make it easy adjustable for users. [13:57:00] sjoerddebruin: +1 [13:57:09] aude: what does the error say.. maybe Henning_WMDE can help [13:57:20] TypeError: Cannot read property 'name' of undefined TypeError [13:57:35] Some like this way, some like the other way... [13:57:37] it's in non-debug mode so difficult to tell exactly where [13:57:40] it comes from and why [13:59:02] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: the ui mockup shows 2 other languages [13:59:07] and "show all languages" [13:59:24] aude: perfect then. [13:59:28] :) [13:59:59] aude: btw don't see an error locally on master. [14:00:09] when loading the page [14:01:27] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: hmmm [14:01:33] did you purge? [14:01:41] aude: several times. [14:01:50] tried it logget out and logged in. [14:01:59] with ULS enabled [14:02:10] ok [14:02:28] it seems ok now [14:02:35] must be evil caching [14:02:44] possible [14:03:17] aude: can you give an estimation on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70482 [14:03:26] on the "easy" fix [14:03:35] 2 ? [14:03:53] aude: ok [14:04:17] aude: we cannot estimate the "sane" fix yet, as we need to wait for feedback, right? [14:04:52] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/issues/53 [14:04:53] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: correct [14:05:31] jzerebecki: sure [14:05:37] JeroenDeDauw: why me?!! \o/ [14:05:59] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: this is an FYI [14:06:05] Relevenat to earlier meeting [14:06:38] how? [14:06:55] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: not to this spring [14:06:56] t [14:07:05] but when we switch the api to use the new serializers [14:07:11] the issues is a blocker [14:07:23] DanielK_WMDE: do we have a bug for the badges-caching-issue yet? [14:07:25] aude: these all are https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/milestones/WikibaseLib%20feature%20parity [14:07:33] JeroenDeDauw: thanks [14:08:56] aude: JeroenDeDauw: ok, so these are basically blockers for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62188? [14:09:10] if so, I'll add this as a comment for completness [14:09:14] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: yes [14:11:00] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "Generally looks fine, mainly moving code and adding tests. (yay!)" (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159078 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [14:14:18] (03PS2) 10Daniel Kinzler: Extract skin hook handlers into ParserOutputHooks [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159295 [14:16:31] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: https://github.com/DataValues/Serialization/tags ? [14:16:58] aude: one moment [14:17:02] ok [14:18:59] JeroenDeDauw: what version would be the best for https://github.com/DataValues/Serialization ? [14:19:04] 1.0.1? [14:19:14] 1.1? [14:19:24] 1.0.1 I guess [14:19:33] 1.0.1 sounds ok to me [14:19:38] (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Rename ParserOutputHooks to SidebarHookHandlers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159301 [14:19:48] one sec [14:20:21] that seems like a bugfix rather than a feature, so 1.0.1 [14:20:29] ok [14:20:40] same here I guess then: https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization [14:20:57] i think we have a tag for data model serializaiton [14:21:01] you made one? [14:21:12] composer update pulled it in [14:21:16] aude: not yet [14:21:20] oh [14:21:23] maybe i have old code [14:22:06] aude: done: https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/releases/tag/1.1.1 [14:22:12] yay [14:22:17] [13WikibaseDataModelSerialization] 15tobijat tagged 061.1.1 at 06master: 02http://git.io/NK6IVQ [14:22:57] [13Serialization] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/f1roxw [14:22:57] 13Serialization/06master 149a624bb 15Tobi Gritschacher: Update README.md [14:23:07] aude: and https://github.com/DataValues/Serialization/releases/tag/1.0.1 [14:23:12] [13Serialization] 15tobijat tagged 061.0.1 at 06master: 02http://git.io/M7P_NA [14:24:04] DanielK_WMDE: ping [14:24:32] [travis-ci] wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/1.1.1/97f0ea9 : Tobi Gritschacher The build passed. http://travis-ci.org/wmde/WikibaseDataModelSerialization/builds/34818401 [14:46:15] jzerebecki: return ( $object instanceof ValueDescription ); [14:46:20] jzerebecki: those brackets are not needed [14:46:47] jzerebecki: generally looks fine [14:46:55] jzerebecki: anything in particular you wanted me to look at>? [14:47:13] JeroenDeDauw: Are we bikeshedding about brackets and instanceof again? [14:47:18] * hoo grabs pop corn [14:47:58] brackets is probably more clear in this case, imho [14:48:00] :P [14:48:11] even if not technically needed [14:48:39] aude: http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/popcorn_the_it_crowd.gif [14:48:54] yum [14:49:54] aude: hoo: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7313450/entropy/bait/low-quality.jpg [14:51:01] JeroenDeDauw: I just wanted to save you some bandwith [14:52:38] [13WikibaseDataModelJavascript] 15snaterlicious pushed 1 new commit to 06fingerprint: 02http://git.io/nHejuQ [14:52:38] 13WikibaseDataModelJavascript/06fingerprint 14e0e8338 15snaterlicious: Added StatementList [15:10:10] JeroenDeDauw: wanted to know if the Factory is fine that way and adresses your previous comments. [15:13:39] jzerebecki: it looks fine [15:13:50] jzerebecki: odd you are using the FQNs though [15:13:50] thx [15:15:05] hi, if i use a wikidata datatype, and it is displayed as 2 March 1859 (Julian), this means 2 March 1859 according to the Julian calendar, right? [15:15:28] dennyvrandecic_: Yep [15:15:32] hi, btw :) [15:15:37] good, i was confused for a moment [15:15:38] jzerebecki: So please do continue with further implementation. If you want us to look at stuff together, let me know [15:15:47] * aude confused also [15:15:55] aude always confused! [15:15:59] :D [15:16:26] JeroenDeDauw: was more on a whim, because I only use them once. ok. [15:16:31] so what Vysergy says here https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Can.27t_switch_between_julian_and_gregorian_date is incorrect? [15:16:51] *Visergey [15:16:59] * Vl [15:17:12] aw [15:17:19] hi hoo [15:17:23] if he says so, he's probably right [15:17:49] (03PS7) 10Henning Snater: Eliminated global events [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157794 [15:18:09] but that's exactly the opposite of what i was just asking :) [15:20:39] meh, I added my two cents [15:22:06] dennyvrandecic_: hoo: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70395 [15:22:43] and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70398 [15:24:00] ah, ok, so it recently broke [15:24:10] i hope it's in the sprint *ducks and covers* [15:24:35] dennyvrandecic_: not so recently - but when we moved the logic to the backend we did not implement the conversion logic there [15:24:44] :-/ [15:25:37] that bug can be painful if it stays too long [15:27:59] dennyvrandecic_: it is there since some months already unfortunately. Henning_WMDE pointed out some possible solutions (see c#1 on the bug), not decided yet what would be the best [15:28:38] make it at least work as it used to work? [15:29:08] dennyvrandecic_: not so easy. [15:29:27] but yes, I agree that it needs to be fixed rather soon [15:29:37] btw. time is painful in general [15:29:40] :) [15:29:47] !no [15:29:47] https://bit.ly/dennyno [15:29:49] L) [15:29:51] :) [15:29:54] option 1 sounds good, just do magic in the parser. that is what we did before :) [15:29:58] hey! [15:30:04] you can't use that on me :D [15:30:12] time is very painful indeed [15:30:16] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: does https://github.com/DataValues/Serialization have packagist web hook setup? [15:30:18] !no | dennyvrandecic_ [15:30:18] dennyvrandecic_: https://bit.ly/dennyno [15:30:22] dennyvrandecic_: apparently I can [15:30:27] :D [15:30:38] seems to be taking extra long for new tag to appear [15:32:38] aude: there now [15:32:42] ok [15:32:44] thanks [15:33:45] (03CR) 10JanZerebecki: [C: 04-1] "Yay, tests! Though I didn't review those." (031 comment) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159078 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [15:46:24] (03PS1) 10Anomie: Update FormatAutocomments hook for I36c3a9e5 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159327 [15:49:25] (03PS4) 10Aude: Use invalid UnDeserializableValue in DataModelSerializationRoundtripTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159029 [15:49:27] (03PS4) 10Aude: Use DataValueFactory::tryNewFromArray in legacy SnakSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159047 [16:02:03] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Update FormatAutocomments hook for I36c3a9e5 [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159327 (owner: 10Anomie) [16:17:08] jzerebecki: I'm ordering food - you want anything? [16:17:17] DanielK_WMDE: ^ [16:17:42] (03PS8) 10Henning Snater: Eliminated global events [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157794 [16:19:02] no, thanks [16:27:00] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70613 [16:32:21] aude: eek. is that happening on production also? [16:32:25] not yet [16:32:31] master? [16:32:34] yes [16:32:46] ok. estimation? [16:32:49] probably should run though my old dump with current data model [16:32:57] 3 ? [16:33:00] assume it's easy? [16:33:04] maybe 5 with tests [16:33:11] we need to fix it before branching I guess? [16:33:21] think so [16:33:21] so I'll add it to the sprint [16:33:27] k [16:36:36] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06reference_tests: 02http://git.io/bCLHyA [16:36:36] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06reference_tests 14e64f86d 15Tobias Gritschacher: Reference Browser tests [17:13:40] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: Extract handlers for ParserOutput hooks (032 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159078 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:18:26] Tobi_WMDE_SWE: i still occasionally get "Cannot read property 'name' of undefined TypeError" [17:18:27] $aude->goMadd( 'https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/blob/master/WikibaseDataModel.php#L23-62' ); [17:18:35] hah [17:18:50] i wonder if some resource loader dependency is missing [17:19:20] JeroenDeDauw: yes, we need to get rid of usage of those in wikibase [17:19:25] e.g. move stuff into namespaces [17:19:45] i guess fine if they are in data model as class_aliases and not used, then no conflict [17:21:16] aude: oh right. If it's just cases where the alias actually needs to work, then indeed only Wikibase.git [17:35:07] aude: can you check php phpunit.php --filter ResourcesTest [17:35:14] should find missing dependencies [17:35:36] would be great if we could reproduce it [17:35:48] need to leave now though [17:36:24] [13WikidataBrowserTests] 15tobijat pushed 1 new commit to 06reference_tests: 02http://git.io/X6M8wQ [17:36:24] 13WikidataBrowserTests/06reference_tests 148e20b91 15Tobias Gritschacher: Reference Browser tests [WIP] [17:48:32] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Abandon?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55607 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:48:51] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Abandon?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95832 (owner: 10Lbenedix) [17:49:23] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Abandon?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133715 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62778) (owner: 10Christopher Johnson (WMDE)) [17:49:30] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Abandon?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/122404 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62778) (owner: 10Christopher Johnson (WMDE)) [17:49:55] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Needs rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148664 (owner: 10Aude) [17:50:46] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Bene, still working on this?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145560 (owner: 10Bene) [17:52:25] Well, Markus is having fun on the list... [19:17:15] any admin around? need help with merging [19:18:04] * matanya pokes Steinsplitter [19:18:47] * Steinsplitter is not wikidata admin [19:20:33] matanya: yes? [19:20:45] JohnLewis: please delete https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17523680 [19:20:53] in order to merge with https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q228868 [19:21:26] matanya: done [19:22:45] thank you JohnLewis [19:31:26] (03CR) 10Bene: "actually no because I think Thiemo is working on the same thing" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/145560 (owner: 10Bene) [19:31:39] (03CR) 10Bene: "Thiemo: Still working on this?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/140189 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [19:32:14] benestar: Thiemo is away for a month or so [19:32:23] hoo o.O [19:32:30] well, but you're back? :D [19:32:49] I'm back... but didn't yet start to do work again [19:32:52] maybe tomorrow ;) [19:33:03] :) [19:33:20] Btw, I'm not so happy with the database update of the entity suggester. [19:33:33] sjoerddebruin: mh? [19:33:48] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P373 doesn't show up anymore on items where it used to show up. [19:33:58] same for https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P18 [19:34:05] aude: ^ [19:35:32] It's on geographical items, I think. [19:38:49] Example: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18011075 A lot less properties then before. [19:38:50] Freebase didn't even show up before. [19:39:24] P373 is used 938,582 times, it should show up. [19:40:54] (03CR) 10Bene: [C: 04-1] "Yeah, anagram code :D" (034 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159078 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [19:44:19] aude, please take a look at that because it's really annoying. [19:45:27] (03CR) 10Bene: [C: 031] "Naming makes sense and describes the functionality much better." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159301 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [19:51:27] sjoerddebruin: Ik begin die Wikinews figuren wel een beetje zat te worden [19:52:30] (03PS3) 10Bene: Use checkboxes instead of multiselect to edit badges [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159103 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70333) [19:52:44] aude jekins works again? [20:21:36] Hi, why is not possible to add a description to this item? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2124046 [20:24:34] jorgechp: works for me [20:26:07] jorgechp: i saved "bug species" as en description, no issues there [20:26:38] hmm [20:26:50] maybe is a problem in my browser, Save link never activates when I write in the field. [20:29:52] Do I have to activate my account before editing? when I logout I can edit, but when I login I can't :S [20:32:40] Oh great, search is also broken. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ldlfy9vdxbulj44/Schermafdruk%202014-09-09%2022.32.33.png?dl=0 [23:16:53] anyone know what the proper API input to add coordinates is? I'm trying { "latitude" = 12.345, "longitude" = 12.345 }�but it's not working [23:17:28] i get this error, if it helps any: [23:17:29] RuntimeError: API query error: {u'servedby': u'mw1123', u'error': {u'info': u'Invalid snak (Can only construct LatLongValue with a numeric latitude)', u'code': u'invalid-snak', u'messages': [{u'html': {u'*': u'Invalid snak'}, u'name': u'wikibase-api-invalid-snak', u'parameters': []}]}} [23:22:38] Jhs: mh [23:25:26] from what I see that should actually work... [23:26:23] assuming the python(?) you gave above is getting transferred as valid json { "latitude": 12.345, ... [23:26:36] yeah, sorry, it's : and not = [23:26:47] & python, yes [23:27:40] aah i think i figured it out [23:28:00] What was the problem? [23:28:01] i need to convert strings to floats first... [23:28:19] when i've fetched them from the template they are still strings [23:28:35] mh... passing strings might or might not work [23:28:48] guessing I'd say it should work because PHP... but I'm not sure [23:29:00] they weren't strings on the inside. they were waiting to be, but they forgot. [23:29:21] now they see the error, and they remember what they are [23:43:51] hoo, disappointed that you didn't get the Firefly reference ;-P [23:45:08] Oh... is that a movie, TV series or book? :P [23:45:27] TV series [23:45:39] aren't you supposed to be a geek (just like the rest of us)? :P [23:46:31] * hoo hides [23:46:34] geeks nowadays point out how they never watch TV anymore :) [23:46:36] * mutante hides too [23:46:54] lol [23:47:14] well, the show did only air one season in 2002, so "anymore" doesn't really apply :P [23:47:28] ah, hehe [23:47:58] that thing aired 2009 in Germany :P [23:49:08] anyways, hoo, the float issue is figured out. but now i'm getting an error that i need to set "precision" and "altitude", which can be null, but i'm not sure how to pass null on unless as a string (which i tried, it doesn't work). any idea? [23:49:42] tried python's None [23:51:33] now trying 0, though i would expect that not to be interpreted as null [23:52:07] you could probably eitehr use a literal foo: NULL [23:52:15] or 0 should also work [23:52:32] Is it bad that what Jhs said made perfect sense to me? [23:52:49] Ash_Crow, :D :D [23:53:28] hoo, 0 was interpreted as null for the altitude, and as 0 for the precision... /me scratches head [23:54:03] you should really be able to set altitude to 0.0 [23:54:12] although you might need to pass a float for that [23:54:24] yeah, exactly. if anything i would expect it to be the other way around [23:55:51] did you try negative values for altitude yet for parts of .nl and Dead Sea ?:p [23:56:46] oh, that sounds exciting [23:56:53] Taht surely works [23:57:03] but passing 0 is bad as PHP sucks a lot [23:57:07] hoo: just making sure someone over here saw this: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:S1wmelsrabjrr7zk&workflow=s1wmelsrabjrr7zk [23:57:08] but nah, i just want to import coordinates from nowiki, and our templates don't include altitude [23:57:33] hoo: do what you want with that info, I'm going to close the tab in my browser now :) [23:58:01] greg-g: Going to have a look... thanks for the notice [23:58:08] np