[00:04:35] <hoo>	 jzerebecki: Lcuie added me to the tool now... but I can't add you, because I can find you in the drop down
[00:04:41] <hoo>	 (assuming you want to be member)
[00:04:57] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: still no patch? :<0
[00:06:13] <hoo>	 JeroenDeDauw: No... I have doing a lot of other things in the past hours
[00:06:17] <hoo>	 * have done
[00:06:30] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: bad bad hoo
[00:06:34] <hoo>	 * have been doing, rather
[00:32:02] <jzerebecki>	 hoo: i think i first need to request a tool account... done, but outstanding
[00:32:21] <hoo>	 Oh, yes
[00:32:28] <hoo>	 thought you had that already
[00:33:29] <jzerebecki>	 how the frell did that manage to need a restart
[00:33:52] <jzerebecki>	 i mean it is a db and php script
[00:34:01] <jzerebecki>	 and the db is on the labs cluster
[00:34:05] <hoo>	 the web service simply wasn't running
[00:34:22] <hoo>	 Guess that was when they rebooted the virt hosts to update glibc
[00:34:32] <hoo>	 Think I did that for my tools as well, not sure
[00:34:52] <hoo>	 s/was/broke/
[00:35:10] <jzerebecki>	 so there is nothing that does this automatically
[00:35:32] <jzerebecki>	 and why is not done by labsproxy or am i missing something?
[00:36:03] <jzerebecki>	 clarificiation: why is the webserver part not done by labsproxy?
[00:36:13] <hoo>	 No idea why it's not automatized... guess you could do that with a very simple cron
[00:36:28] <hoo>	 Well, the webserver runs as a sge job under you project's user
[00:36:41] <hoo>	 an nginx
[00:37:07] <hoo>	 And labsproxy connects to that
[00:37:34] <jzerebecki>	 ah yes i remember, thx
[00:38:33] <jzerebecki>	 is there other stuff the gridengine forgets about after a restart?
[00:38:33] <hoo>	 Ok, it's lighttpd
[00:38:53] <hoo>	 I think it remembers these even
[00:38:57] <hoo>	 but it's not supposed to restart them
[00:39:23] <hoo>	 there's some command to get a job history of an account, it should show that the job ran and at some point got killed by an outside signal
[00:39:40] <hoo>	 Might be to long ago by now
[00:55:01] <jzerebecki>	 seems not to be a recipe for reliability
[00:55:43] <JeroenDeDauw>	 !nyan | jzerebecki hoo 
[00:55:44] <wm-bot>	 jzerebecki hoo: ~=[,,_,,]:3
[00:55:58] <jzerebecki>	 but i don't have enough detail knowledge to file specific tickets against that
[00:56:04] <jzerebecki>	 !evil JeroenDeDauw 
[00:56:04] <wm-bot>	 JeroenDeDauw is eeeeeevil >:(
[00:56:23] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Well thank you good sir
[00:57:13] * jzerebecki hears maniacal laughter next door
[00:57:49] <jzerebecki>	 poor cats
[00:59:03] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: we're totally not both still at the office
[00:59:45] <hoo>	 Of course... who stays late at the office anyway? :D
[01:05:05] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Crazy people
[01:47:40] <jzerebecki>	 hoo: account obtained! *ding*
[01:48:19] <hoo>	 \o/
[01:49:36] <Yuvi|Vacation>	 jzerebecki: hoo it needs to be more reliable definitely. I'll spend more time working on it soon
[01:50:19] <hoo>	 jzerebecki: Ok, added you to the tool
[01:50:23] <hoo>	 Yuvi|Vacation: Yay :)
[01:50:32] <hoo>	 Now: Go back to vacation :D
[01:50:36] <Yuvi|Vacation>	 Haha
[01:50:37] <Yuvi|Vacation>	 Ok
[01:50:52] <jzerebecki>	 :)
[01:51:01] <Yuvi|Vacation>	 I like working from beach 
[01:51:49] <hoo>	 Fair point :D
[02:02:15] <jzerebecki>	 Yuvi|Vacation: the union demands that you call it work not vacation!
[02:02:40] <Yuvi|Vacation>	 MAKE ME! :)
[02:37:05] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Interfaces] 15JeroenDeDauw pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/NVpL
[02:37:05] <gh-datavalues>	 13Interfaces/06master 144f0165a 15jeroendedauw: 1.0.5 rel
[02:37:40] <gh-datavalues>	 [13Interfaces] 15JeroenDeDauw tagged 060.1.5 at 14f563e6a: 02http://git.io/NVp3
[02:37:40] <gh-datavalues>	 13Interfaces/060.1.5 14f563e6a 15jeroendedauw: 1.0.5 rel
[03:01:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Fix broken @see and @return tags in ApiWikibase modules [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189924 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[03:03:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Fix broken @see and @return tags in ApiWikibase modules [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189924 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[03:06:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Remove Utils, introduce LanguageNameLookup [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190631 
[03:06:39] <hoo>	 JeroenDeDauw: ^
[03:06:44] <hoo>	 In case you're still online
[03:08:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Remove Utils, introduce LanguageNameLookup [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190631 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[03:11:18] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: Jenkins says no
[03:11:25] <JeroenDeDauw>	 And I'm off now :)
[03:11:27] <JeroenDeDauw>	 ttyl
[03:11:34] <hoo>	 Jenkins is broken
[03:11:37] <hoo>	 ok ;)
[03:24:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Fix RepoHooks test [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190633 
[03:24:34] <hoo>	 that will fix travis
[03:24:44] <hoo>	 but I guess by now really no one else is still around :(
[03:25:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Fix RepoHooks test [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190633 
[03:27:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [V: 032] "Documentation only change, jenkins failures are unrelated, see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190633" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189924 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[03:29:28] <hoo>	 legoktm: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190633 You merged the commit that broke that :P
[03:31:54] <travis-ci>	 wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/4078b2f : Hoo man The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/50720793
[03:44:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Remove Utils, introduce LanguageNameLookup [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190631 
[03:48:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] Rework deprecated code in TestChanges [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189739 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE))
[03:48:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Fix RepoHooks test [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190633 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[03:50:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Remove Utils, introduce LanguageNameLookup [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190631 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[03:50:35] <hoo>	 \o/
[03:50:36] <JeroenDeDauw>	 hoo: im back!
[03:50:52] <JeroenDeDauw>	 and gone again...
[03:51:02] <hoo>	 :)
[03:51:41] <travis-ci>	 wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/d340dc9 : Hoo man The build is still failing. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/50721623
[03:52:04] <hoo>	 that's the change I just force-merged, ignore
[03:58:29] <travis-ci>	 wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/69e65bc : Jeroen De Dauw The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/50721651
[03:59:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Hoo man: Allow getting the user's language and splitting the ParserCache from Lua [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189324 
[04:01:25] <travis-ci>	 wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/master/3cc6369 : Jeroen De Dauw The build was fixed. http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/50721724
[04:08:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: Allow getting the user's language and splitting the ParserCache from Lua (033 comments) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189324 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[04:09:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Hoo man: Allow getting the user's language and splitting the ParserCache from Lua [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189324 
[04:10:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Addressed comments from PS2" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189324 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[04:52:46] <hoo_>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Akolovstoms Special:Contributions: Go home, you're drunk :D
[10:16:08] <Lydia_WMDE>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/Next <- anything to add peeps?
[11:01:29] <jayaround>	 Ash_Crow, did you see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/190137/
[11:02:11] <Ash_Crow>	 jayaround, no I didn't... Thanks!
[12:21:43] <multichill>	 manybubbles: Camping out in Berlin? ;-)
[12:52:42] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Allow creating items or properties without a label - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89440#1039055 (10Bugreporter) However this doesn't always work.  See https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P1667&action=history
[12:54:36] <manybubbles>	 multichill: I will be tomorrow morning!
[12:59:46] <multichill>	 Nice, how is the work on the graph database going?
[13:04:45] <multichill>	 manybubbles: ^
[13:26:07] <multichill>	 Lydia_WMDE: Ping about the glamwiki conference
[13:39:35] <sjoerddebruin>	 :O
[13:45:57] <multichill>	 hi sjoerddebruin
[13:46:07] <sjoerddebruin>	 Hi multichill
[13:46:20] <multichill>	 I'm just going to my email backlog ;-)
[13:46:38] * sjoerddebruin sees "376" on his Mail.app.
[13:51:59] <multichill>	 That isn't too bad!
[14:20:15] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yeah..
[14:20:22] * sjoerddebruin remembers seeing four numbers.
[14:52:31] <wikibugs>	 3Wikidata: Migrate all relevant Lua modules from mw.wikibase.getEntity to mw.wikibase.getEntityObject - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88950#1039122 (10hoo)
[15:13:37] <manybubbles>	 multichill: impressively badly!  the database that we started with evaporated - its primary committers were all hired and _kind of_ told to stop working on it.  They are in the process of leaving it "the community" which doesn't have anyone willing to take it over, so far as I can tell.  So we reopened the investigation to find a new one.  Lately I've been thinking about the triplestore called BlazeGraph - we might be able to smooth many of 
[15:13:37] <manybubbles>	 the rough edges around transforming wikidata into rdf with it.  it'd be a few custom rdf extensions, but it'd be neat
[15:14:05] <multichill>	 That sucks man
[15:15:47] <multichill>	 manybubbles: It looked so promising :-(
[15:16:04] <manybubbles>	 depressed me for a whole week.
[15:16:26] <multichill>	 Can imagine that. On the other hand, better now than in say, 6 months
[15:16:29] <manybubbles>	 I'm getting excited again, but its hard when you actually care about what you work on.  Things like that are a real blow.
[15:16:33] <manybubbles>	 damn right!
[15:40:19] <hoo>	 aude: Here?
[16:26:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Fix EditEntity::isNew for new entities with an Id set [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190657 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85454) 
[16:26:55] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Connecting the sitelinks via Wikipedia doesn't add the created item to your watchlist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85454#1039233 (10hoo)
[21:46:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Make SpecialGoToLinkedPage support entity redirects [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190680 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78526) 
[21:50:40] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: Special:GoToLinkedPage should support redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78526#1039462 (10hoo)
[22:17:45] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: Wikidata's JS tool at Wikipedia doesn't recognize Template:category redirect - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75254#1039510 (10hoo) 5Open>3declined a:3hoo I'm sorry, but we're not going to support this.  The widget already supports "real" category redirec...
[22:23:24] <multichill>	 hoo: Die soft redirects, die!!!!  ^ ;-)
[22:24:40] <hoo>	 multichill: +1
[22:25:03] <multichill>	 Wasn't there a probablem with #REDIRECT on categories?
[22:25:15] <hoo>	 None that I'm aware of
[22:27:10] <multichill>	 hoo: Found it at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion#Redirecting_categories
[22:27:31] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata: Track multi-lingual label usage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89002#1039530 (10hoo) Could we make the meaning of 'L' depend on the setting I'll introduce here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189324 ? If so, I'd go for that.
[22:27:31] <multichill>	 And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect#category
[22:28:28] <hoo>	 multichill: Yeah... but still not gonna support that
[23:00:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hoo man: Enable the CLDR extension for Wikibase Repo unit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190684 
[23:00:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Hoo man: Enable the CLDR extension for Wikibase unit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190684 
[23:03:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Enable the CLDR extension for Wikibase unit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190684 (owner: 10Hoo man)
[23:03:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Hoo man: Enable the CLDR extension for Wikibase unit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87242) 
[23:04:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Enable the CLDR extension for Wikibase unit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87242) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[23:23:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Requires https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190690" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/190684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87242) (owner: 10Hoo man)
[23:31:09] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata: monolingual text input missing translation of string "Language (mandatory)" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86488#1039600 (10hoo) In theory that string is translatable... but the repo with it is on github, thus the sync with translatewiki doesn't work. I t...