[02:24:08] is there a way to get only lastrevid or timestamp of specific ID with wikibase api? [02:26:03] O I did it, with mediawiki API [02:26:21] good job! [02:26:42] :) [06:53:01] Heya… anyone awake? [06:55:01] Sourcing… when using a web database that ‘doesn’t’ have the ‘autolinking’ of ID’s set up, you use the url, but when it is (like ULAN) you use the actual ID instead, right? [06:55:42] i.e. ‘stated in’ = ‘ULAN’, ‘ULAN’ = ‘500084293’ [07:06:18] (and, as a related note, ‘imported from’ wikipedia sources can/should go away once a statement has a real source, right?) [11:10:32] aude: around? :P [11:11:22] or can anyone else remember that cool russian article using alll of the arbitarary access for links at the bottom of an article? [11:27:52] addshore: Heya? No clue, but… mind scrolling up and replying to what I said earlier? [11:28:28] Just want to check I’m grokking it right. [11:41:46] addshore: obviously its a template [11:41:58] like the authority control ones on enwiki [11:42:33] why do you ask? [11:42:45] e.g. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0,_%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA :) [11:43:19] or do you mean hungarian wikipedia? [11:59:51] aude: that looks like an anrgy URL... [12:35:57] aude: im at WMUK and just slipped a speedy presentation into the middle of the event ;) [12:41:57] addshore: ok [12:42:26] * aude finds https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boh%C3%A1%C5%88ka and related articles more interesting :) [12:42:36] or https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmental :) [12:43:10] =] [12:46:36] and my audience was most interested in the arbitrary kitten :D [12:46:43] https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Aude [12:55:32] hah [13:17:32] Revent: yes, "imported from wikipedia" can be removed once there's a better source [13:17:42] I don't know the answer to the other question [13:17:58] nikki: Thanks. [13:18:46] It’s what I had seen done for other such things, including an example linked on one of the examples… it still links, so I assume it’s right. [13:19:18] er, and example linked on one of the ‘property talk’ pages, I mean. [14:33:37] I found something strange and need some help [14:34:20] Stanley Baldwin has an article on ENWP as well as a Category. He also has a category on Commons [14:35:21] On Wikidata, the Category for commons is linked to Category:Stanley Baldwin rather than the Article link for Stanley Baldwin [14:36:50] So it won't let me link the Stanley Baldwin article with Commons Category. Normally I would just reasociate the link to commons to the article rather than the category, but since there are multiple projects with [14:37:04] both the article and the category I am not sure exactly what needs to be done [14:40:19] Does anyone know the sparql for LINK[dewiki] AND NOLINK[enwiki] ? :> [14:40:24] aude: ^^? [14:40:55] I cant find any examples of link queries :P [14:41:11] SMalyshev ^^ [14:42:20] ooohh, just found https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_query_service/queries#Working_with_sitelinks [14:44:13] Catnip: Now, what exactly? There is not a ‘gallery’ (a mainspace page) for him on Commons… things are normally linked to commons categories. [14:45:39] Catnip: If you want the Common category to show up under ‘other projects’ on wikipedia, then on wikidata edit the ‘other sites’ way down at the bottom, site being ‘commonswiki’ and “Category:Stephen Baldwin” as the value. [14:48:02] Catnip: Oh, nevermind, I get it now… yeah, wikipedia articles are supposed to be linked to Commons categories.. the ‘other sites’ on Q15100157 is wrong. [14:48:33] It should be on Q166635 [14:53:50] (fixes it) [14:54:10] benestar|cloud: ? :P [14:54:28] Commons ‘mainspace’ (galleries) is pretty much useless. [14:58:02] Thanks [14:58:30] Thats what I thought but I wasn't sure so I didn't want to mess anything up [15:11:19] it would be more accurate to say that there's no consensus on where commons categories should be linked. there are people who would say commons category sitelinks are supposed to be on category items and putting a commons category sitelink on a non-category item is wrong (they would add a p373 statement instead) [15:25:56] nikki, the problem with the p373 is that it does not link to the Commons category. So any interwiki links wouldn't be associated. [15:26:42] This is another reason, at least to me, that Commons should have its own little box and shouldnt be religated to the "other wiki" category [15:27:17] that wouldn't change anything, even if it had its own box, we would still have to decide whether commons categories are linked to categories or articles [15:27:56] If it had its own box would it not be easier then to link to both concurrently? [15:32:56] no, the boxes are just for display [15:33:49] so the software would still refuse to allow more than one sitelink for a single wiki and would still refuse to allow linking to something already linked to another item :/ [15:41:06] Ah ok [15:42:02] But I don't thnkn the boxes are just for display. Because in order for the Commons category to be linked and the interwiki links to be associated, it has to be in the box, not in the list of properties [15:49:21] I mean the grouping of the sitelinks into separate boxes (like wikipedia, wikibooks, other wikis) is just for display, p373 is a statement not a sitelink, which is why it doesn't behave the same as the sitelinks [16:00:47] also, I'm not arguing that p373 is a good idea, it has other issues too, I just wanted to point out that it's not something that everyone agrees on, so there's no right or wrong, some people will do it that way, some will do it the opposite way and there are some advantages, some disadvantages [16:14:32] Oh yeah I know, no worries [16:32:24] nikki: I think it’s a matter of what is… let’s say, ‘semantically correct’ (linking like to like) and what is actually useful. Commons galleries are almost all very poorly maintained and out of date, if they even exist, and so linking to them is not really helpful. Also, not having outward sitelinks from categories (where most Commons traffic is) without having interwikis on the page is a pain in the ass. [16:55:58] Hi - I'm interested in how the BlazeGraph adoption has gone - any feedback to share? [17:32:46] Lydia_WMDE: Can an office meeting be created or something and get a 'move on' regarding Authority control data on Commons vs Wikidata and arbitrary access for Commons etc. as well as if we should link to (stupid galleries) or categories etc.... seems like a logical step for Wikidata [17:46:53] Josve05a: it'll be in the radar but I believe it's out of scope until next years development plan is announced [17:50:04] ok :) [18:22:47] rattas [18:22:49] oops [18:23:24] any way to stop someone whose tool is making erroneous edits? [18:23:55] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Oravrattas (scroll to bottom) [18:24:28] tried to find him/her on IRC, no dice. Apparently they work for/with EveryPolitician.org, a Poplus initiative [18:30:05] I blocked it [18:31:01] thanks :) [18:31:44] I'll work at fixing some of it after eating some food. [18:31:54] unless someone thinks it's acceptable to do a big revert [18:33:52] a bit over 500 edits that should be reverted [18:35:44] http://www.gender-balance.org/ Let's make this a Wikidata game! [19:22:46] Stryn, did you revert all of them, indiscriminately? [19:22:58] (haven't found any that actually *are* humans, in my random clicking :P) [19:24:45] I reverted all errors [19:24:52] there are few humans also [19:25:16] ah, okay [19:25:22] and still left some erroneous edits [19:25:29] if you want to revert them [19:36:09] legoktm: did you ever make that script to remove the badly named babel categories from last month? just noticed a load on specieswiki and mediawiki.org [21:25:10] hi [21:25:42] I want add data to a currency template from a json, how I could do that? [21:27:06] I need add values from http://api.bitcoinvenezuela.com/DolarToday.php?json=yes [21:27:12] to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_bol%C3%ADvar [21:27:22] However I dont know how do that [21:29:32] You can't load data from arbitary sites [21:31:11] Reedy: what is a arbitary sites? [21:31:21] What are [21:31:24] http://api.bitcoinvenezuela.com/DolarToday.php?json=yes would be an arbitary site [21:32:06] Black Market have a arbitary site, of course, however, how cite a Black Market? [21:32:49] btw, its [[wp:DolarToday]] [21:32:50] 10[1] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/wp:DolarToday [21:33:11] [[en:DolarToday]] [21:33:12] 10[2] 10https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DolarToday [21:34:15] Reedy: the arbitary site is cited by Reuters and AP [21:34:20] It doesn't matter [21:34:33] You can't pull in data from them into Wikipedia templates automatically [21:35:03] Reedy: some idea? [21:36:05] I need create a bot for that? [21:36:23] I could create a bot to add exchange rate to wikidata? [21:38:44] Does wikidata store exchange rates? [21:39:19] Well, Where is the right place for that? [21:39:43] I don't know [21:39:43] there's a proposal at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Economics#Currency_exchange_rate [21:41:14] thanks [21:45:15] interesting [22:45:56] * jeblad wonder if there is anyone alive in the channel.. [22:46:08] * eurodyne is here [22:46:38] The property parser function has started to give english dates in nowiki [22:46:48] Anyone knows why and how to fix it? [22:55:02] Strange, this does not happen in all articles