[04:27:46] I wonder if it would make more sense to have separate subpages for each property proposal instead of copying and pasting them between pages to move them to a different category or archive them... would also mean people could add a specific proposal to their watchlist [05:46:18] (serious) for a person who was "manner of death" = suicide, is it appropriate to add the person/Q itself for propery "killed by"? [06:06:28] looking at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P157, it seems it was asked a while back and the responses then were to only use it for killing other people [06:15:07] nikki: ok. thank you! [06:17:38] it's especially tricky for cases where there is controversy over "suicide vs. murder" for celebrities etc [11:14:20] multichill: about? [11:14:32] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikimania_2016 <-------(~15 days left for comments)--------- [11:14:48] sDrewth: I am [11:15:47] multichill: my question from the other day was how does one retrieve the language-sensitive descriptive from a WD item [11:16:04] As a user or using the api? [11:16:11] I couldn't see how from within module:wikibase [11:16:27] Ah, LUA, fun. What wiki are you trying this from? [11:16:29] as an enWS template [11:16:52] I think that should get everything in English or whatever language the user has set, but I'm not sure [11:17:17] I couldn't work out the parameter to use [11:17:25] it is not a standard statement [11:17:39] property statement [11:43:13] I'm not sure who can help you out here sDrewth. Maybe hoo or aude [13:55:12] sDrewth: do have a more concrete example? [13:58:49] nikki: I really would like the separate subpage for each property proposal. [14:03:09] jzerebecki: of which end? enWS or WD? [14:03:46] thanks for trying multichill [14:04:09] sDrewth: in wd terms what information do you want on enwp in which language? [14:04:30] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21403225 "Scottish writer" [14:05:24] we pull some data into enWS for our [[Template:Author]], eg. image, the interlanguage links [14:05:25] 10[1] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Author [14:05:42] [[s:en:Template:Author]] [14:05:43] 10[2] 10https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Template:Author [14:07:47] the other properties have Pnnn: so can be inhaled [14:17:15] sDrewth: for site / interwiki you need to use lua instead of the {{#property parser function. use this specifically: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_Client/Lua#mw.wikibase.entity:getSitelink . (in general it probably makes your template easier if you convert most of it to one lua function that is invoked) [14:18:02] we do use lua, mpdule:wikibase [14:18:11] however, still need to know the property [14:20:36] sDrewth: does the function I listed above help you? [14:22:23] maybe https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_Client/Lua#mw.wikibase.description [14:23:44] look like I need mw.wikibase.description [14:40:20] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikimania_2016 <-------(~15 days left for comments)--------- [14:45:25] nothing seems set within the modules to grab .description, I will have to hunt down Hoo [14:51:22] sDrewth: can you explain your problem with mw.wikibase.description? [14:52:53] ah, you greatly overjudge my ability to use anything unless it is already coded [15:01:08] sDrewth: would something like https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Label work (substitute 'label' with 'description') ? [15:01:24] if possible, use the first example there, and it will be in the wiki's language [15:01:51] but if you are already using the whole item (e.g. to get birth date), then the second example is not so bad (since the item is loaded already) [15:03:22] Aude: thanks, I will play after sleeping, 2am is not the time for me to make sense play templates [15:03:28] ok [15:03:43] we are not up to pulling year converted dates, though I would like to be there [15:03:54] hope that helps or if not then please poke us again [15:04:03] :-) [16:16:59] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikimania_2016 <-------(~15 days left for comments)--------- [17:02:27] ugh... probably someone tried to change a Statement on mobile https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/181.92.48.134 [18:57:15] I'm trying to fix label/descriptions of a single character, in all languages. Is there a way for me to opt-in to editing all languages? According to the docs, it seems I would need to add 280+ babelbox statements on my userpage, but perhaps there's a script/gadget to do this? [18:57:54] quiddity: There is [18:58:12] " labelLister: Show and edit labels, descriptions and aliases from other languages." [18:58:58] I think there are other tools for mass changing labels, but I'm not sure [19:00:37] Aha, it adds a new tab! I was initially confused. Thanks. :) [19:02:20] Welcome :) [21:53:11] Is there a way to go from a category to its subcatory in wikidata [21:54:08] for example enwiki says that Q7139268 (Category:Linear algebra ) is in the catory Q8234869 (Category:Algebra) [21:57:57] physikerwelt___, I don't think that is stored on Wikidata. You have to click on the value given for "category's main topic". In that item click on "part of" -> "algebra". And in the item for algebra click on value given in "topic's main category". [21:57:57] I'm looking for something like that http://downloads.dbpedia.org/2015-04/core-i18n/en/skos-categories_en.ttl.bz2 directly implemented in wikidata without to use dbpedia [22:00:07] I also don't think Wikidata will every built an tree for the category-items because it would just be the exact mirror of the tree we built for normal-namespace-items. [22:02:33] tobias47n9e_ yes I see the partof seems to be the right thing [22:02:40] physikerwelt___, The dataset looks like something SPARQL could do. [22:03:14] using the categories was more a workaround [22:04:06] physikerwelt___, I can't really help with SPARQL, but there is a tutorial here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_query_service/queries [22:04:16] And the page has people which you can ping :) [22:05:25] physikerwelt___, For simpler things there is https://wdq.wmflabs.org/ - but you probably know that? [22:07:00] no I did not knew that... thank you. But using SPARQL seems to be the right thing