[08:26:53] Hallo [08:27:32] Does anybody happen to know how does the English Wikipedia hide the "Edit links" element on the main page? [14:03:50] SMalyshev: Any idea why http://tinyurl.com/zdmxas8 is returning https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q24055387 ? [14:05:04] It suddenly appeared in https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AMultichill%2FZandbak&type=revision&diff=337245796&oldid=337240326 [15:07:50] multichill: it's still occasionally returning deleted items, so I think it's probably still missing edits occasionally (and in this case, presumably missed the edit which added the creator) [15:08:45] That's what I would think too, but that means we have data corruption [15:08:50] yeah :( [15:14:45] as far as I know, updating the item again will update everything the sparql thing knows about the item, which would make it annoying but not too terrible [15:15:27] (would be much worse if missed updates were just lost forever until a full reload is done, 'cause how would you even know if you missed something D: ) [15:16:23] Yeah, doing a change to the item means all triples related to it are re-loaded [15:26:46] I know the work around, but having data corruption is a scary thing. We just started, barely any load compaired with what should come. Where is it getting lost? [15:26:54] hoo: Are triples timestamped? [15:27:29] multichill: Sadly not, but I would love that (for various reasons) [15:27:59] That combined with recent changes would be a good way to track corruption and fix it [15:28:05] I don't think we loose them due to load, there are probably just little issues with the (home made) syncing left [15:28:54] I got to go... cu o/ [15:52:59] Hard question: how would you describe Wikidata, its use cases, and its value, to a non-technical audience? [15:57:55] harej: A place where your stuff gets deleted if you don't comment soon, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions#Q23924325 ;-) [15:59:56] It's probably not notable : [16:03:15] An interesting question is, how did a front-matter end up with its own DOI? One wonders. [16:22:24] Hello! I'm trying to import wikidata RDF dumps into virtuoso, the import seems to be successfull, but the example queries from the wiki return no data. [16:22:33] Any idea what the problem might be? [16:43:46] Lydia_WMDE: The new MathML rendering is online on wikidata now https://twitter.com/physikerwelt/status/732247594232057856 [16:49:02] harej: wikidata is where an object is defined by a relation to other particular objects . for example object A could be a type object B, instance of object B, and/or defined by object C. hence objects are called items in wikidata [16:51:00] harej: now why that's may be useful: simply when the computer is aware of the relation between objects/items, you could ask him to compare objects to each other or ask him about specific type/kind of objects where some circumstances are met [19:05:46] harej: I imagine it depends how non-technical you want it to be. I would say the basic thing is that it's a lot of information stored in a way a computer can understand [19:06:05] the use/value then is that we can take advantage of the speed/power of computers to do things, e.g. you can answer questions which would take too long to research (like the largest cities with a female mayor example) and you can use a small amount of translation to provide people with a much larger amount of information in their language (like you can tell it what a particular concept is called in a language and it can describe all the things which [19:06:06] are that concept much faster than anyone could possibly translate articles) [21:49:34] * aude wonders if today is another german holiday? [21:49:50] it's so quiet [22:04:30] the chance are high, May is the month with the most holidays in de [22:05:06] aude: it is > Pfingsten [22:05:08] http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/germany/pentecost-monday [22:13:10] aude: how did you learn arabic [22:18:28] mutante: ok :) [22:18:54] GhassanMas_: just studying and lived in egypt :) [22:22:33] aude: that's interesting I stumbled upon your meta-wiki profile and for a moment i thought you are a native [22:23:32] by the way are in a connection somehow with Arabs editors [22:27:26] GhassanMas_: i was at WikiArabia and know some of the Egyptian wikipedians [22:33:38] aude: I've been lately trying to get Arabic editor attention about ORES so we can generate more labeled revisions but I haven't got any chances. Do you think the Egyptians wikipeidians that you know would help about that? [23:21:20] GhassanMas: are you in the arabic wikipedia facebook group? (if you are on facebook) [23:21:38] understand if you are not, but i'd suggest asking there [23:35:36] yeah audo, actually I don't really use it, but I have a fake account whenever I had to (: . I will give it a shot there. Thanks! [23:37:12] aude* [23:46:49] GhassanMas: ok [23:46:54] fake account is ok