[13:15:51] tricky proble: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Producent got disconnected from a Wikidata item. How do I find out which item that was? [13:17:16] multichill https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q12332406&action=history [13:17:55] i tried the easy way : typing "Producent" in the search box ^^' [13:18:03] Alphos: In this case I can find it by looking for producer, but how do we have any log ? [13:18:09] Same problem for https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push-upbeha [13:18:26] And looking at the history I can find the bot entry when it was first moved to Wikidata [13:18:46] But also ran into some other items which were vandalized and extremely difficult to locate [13:19:15] well, if it's not too old and the vandal did a lot of it, RollBot is here for you :p [13:19:32] (if it's too old, RollBot is here as well, but might not be as effective) [13:19:56] One of the reasons a wiki functions is because every change is very visible [13:20:11] Removing a sitelink isn't visible at all, that's *bad* [13:20:21] indeed [13:20:38] I would expect something in the recentchanges table [13:21:51] Hmm, indeed, it's in the recentchanges table [13:22:16] on wikipedia ? [13:22:20] Yup [13:22:29] 83271137 | 20160731162619 | | 0 | DimiTalen | 0 | Push-upbeha | Deze pagina is ontkoppeld van het item van Wikidata. De taalkoppelingen zijn verwijderd. | 1 | 0 | 0 | 288549 | 46954684 | 46954684 | 5 | wb [13:23:27] no reason why it shouldn't also be more closely related to the page history then :/ [13:23:45] How do I see that log entry on the article... [13:23:52] ikr [13:31:55] Ok. I think I figured it out [13:41:24] Alphos: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Multichill/Zandbak [13:42:37] multichill stop using serialize(), use json_encode() >_< [13:43:05] Alphos: Where did I use that? [13:43:43] a:1:{s:20:"wikibase-repo-change";a:13: <-- that's php's "serialize" format [13:43:59] I pulled this directly from the database [13:44:22] It seems to be fast enough to just do it live on the database so I might do that later [13:47:28] hey DanielK_WMDE [14:10:24] multichill: hi! [14:20:35] multichill http://alphos.fr/wikidata/multichill/rc.txt ;) [14:21:47] little under 9 seconds on labs [14:25:42] Alphos: Same query right? Probably still cached. Commandline was 0m17.467s [14:25:57] quite possible, yes [14:26:12] Did you try bigger wiki like frwiki? [14:26:12] though not exactly the same query [14:26:22] let me have a look [14:28:16] a minute and counting [14:29:13] What did you change in the query besides the layout? [14:29:29] You should probably put a limit on it Alphos [14:29:42] Dutch has less than 500 unconnected articles [14:30:02] durnit, putty hung >_< [14:30:22] I hope you have a screen running [14:30:49] nah, it's just it won't budge to Ctrl-C [14:31:08] other putty windows work just fine though :/ [14:31:29] let's try this again ^^' [14:32:07] oh, i see what happened [14:32:10] i'm just dumb [14:32:34] nano rc.php > frwikirc.txt # didn't work as expected, FOR SOME REASON [14:33:41] trying again with `time php rc.php > frwikirc.txt` :D [14:35:00] real 1m24.274s user 0m0.037s sys 0m0.047s [14:35:25] and 294 items [14:37:29] Hmm, that's a bit too long for a web based tool I guess Alphos [14:37:45] yah [14:38:14] 10 seconds i could bear with, 90 seconds is a bit too much [14:38:43] although you could technically produce a report every day at over the last 24 hours [14:38:50] (and just serve that) [14:39:53] pity that part of the data is serialized :-( [14:40:36] Can't you deserialize it and parse the json Alphos? That shouldn't be too hard [14:41:14] multichill my script does :) [14:41:24] (probably the reason it's taking so long, tbh) [14:41:46] i suspect the time passed in the db is much lower than that [14:42:12] I doubt that. Usually the db part takes up all the time, the local processing much much less [14:42:44] then again, for 294 deserializations, you're very possibly right [14:44:33] still, the idea of publishing a daily report kinda makes sense [14:44:56] That would be nice [14:45:09] Do you have a bot that you can use for that? [14:45:47] Could be published on Wikidata as subpages or on the wiki's itself [14:46:38] Alphos: Or see if it can be added as another job for PLbot? [14:47:18] i do have a bot in training, but its goal isn't exactly that one [14:47:37] RollBot deals with reverting vandalism ^^' [14:47:57] it MAY be construed as vandalism, but that's a little too unspecific for my taste [14:48:21] Most of the edits are valid or mistakes [14:48:31] indeed [14:48:31] Just a tiny bit of vandalism [14:48:42] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/without_claims_by_site <- something like this would be nice [14:48:43] hence my unwillingness to use rollbot for that [14:50:53] Alphos: Let's ask https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Pasleim ? [14:51:01] brb [14:51:17] please go ahead :) [15:48:12] Alphos: Enwp took 16 minutes [18:56:57] multichill which means it's doable every day for all wp if needed be [20:24:59] DanielK_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/304711 wow [20:25:13] That was so damn inefficient [20:39:04] hoo: tempted to give it a +2 right now. do we have a test that directly checks this?... [20:40:25] DanielK_WMDE: No, I can add one in a bit, though [20:46:20] Alphos: Exactly. If it works for enwp, it probably works for all the smaller ones [20:47:06] hoo: Did you see what we talked about earlier? (how to find disconnected items) [20:47:13] Any better ideas we haven't thought about? [20:47:37] multichill: No, didn't see it [20:47:39] in here? [20:47:52] hoo: would be nice. but then, this is quite obvious... 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[21:36:09] DanielK_WMDE: added tests now https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/304711 [21:39:42] addshore: This fun person seems to be coming in on a regular basis. [21:47:32] addshore: Still here? [21:47:38] ya [21:48:02] We want to track clicks on article placeholders on Special:Search [21:48:19] Shall we do that in JS? Or do you have a better idea? Is the referrer uniform enough? [21:50:49] is the stuff added to the search results in js? [21:50:55] no, server side [21:51:46] well, JS would be an option, or add something to the link like source=search and then track that in php [21:52:18] I'm a little afraid of ref parameters, these might "spread", wont they? [21:52:54] yeh, the annoying thing about the JS route is that it is then the client having to make a webrequest to send the data [21:53:03] going the referrer route could work too [21:53:19] I guess I would have to take a look at the webrequest tables and see what it looks like [21:54:07] Ok [21:54:11] shall I open a ticket? [21:54:18] yeh! [21:55:01] I also have anohter patch regarding tracking in gerrit [21:55:08] Gather all the metrics! [21:55:25] hahah! link? :0 [21:55:35] =] [21:55:39] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/304698 [21:57:03] hoo: counter. is wrong in php! that is just what is needed in the JS statsv stuff! [21:57:18] in the php it just needs to actual metric name :) [21:57:55] counter. or timing. is used in the JS as a prefix to tell statsv what type of stat it is, whereas the php statsd stuff has different methods for each type of stat [21:58:29] ah cool [21:58:32] didn't know that [21:58:41] also you dont need the Mediawiki prefix of the metric name, everything that is sent by mediawiki already gets added to that namespace [21:58:44] see https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-RevisionSlider/blob/master/RevisionSlider.hooks.php#L38 for an example :) [21:58:50] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142955 new ticket [21:59:25] epic! [21:59:28] heading to bed now :) [22:05:25] addshore: See also https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/304741 [22:06:28] other change amended [22:12:53] all +2ed hoo ;) [22:13:31] great, thanks! :) [22:49:19] JEM Y ASIMOVBOT [22:49:22] SE AMAN MUCHO [22:49:25] SE QUIEREN [22:49:32] Y HACEN EL AMOR EN LA CAMA [22:49:36] addshore: still there? ^ [22:49:49] NO LISTEN WIKIDATAFACTS OR KILL [22:49:53] JEM [22:49:54] JEM [22:49:55] JEM [22:49:56] JEM [22:49:57] JEM [22:49:57] JEM [22:49:58] JEM [22:49:59] JEM [22:50:16] (I guess PM would’ve been smarter) [22:51:59] addshore or you could +q them [22:52:28] they'll try spamming for a long time before realizing we don't even care :) [22:53:19] Alphos: you make a good point! [22:54:08] :) [22:54:24] ill leave it on that one :) maybe they wont notice indeed !:|d [23:00:02] here's hoping :) [23:23:28] WikidataFacts: what would be the SPARQL query that gets me Wikidata item numbers and their PubMed IDs? [23:23:47] I can query for a list of Wikidata items that *have* PubMed IDs, but I don't know how to get the PubMed IDs themselves to show up [23:24:13] harej: http://tinyurl.com/hh2or4g ? [23:24:33] brilliant! thank you [23:24:57] I really should learn how to do this stuff [23:25:20] harej : not much to it : if i could do it, so can you [23:28:45] harej: here’s the same query with links: http://tinyurl.com/jkefh8e – that’s a bit more advanced ;)