[02:02:16] <yurik>	 SMalyshev, the problem is that in OSM, everything is treated as a string, which means population COULD be (likely) a number, but might as well be "banana"
[02:02:31] <yurik>	 same goes for languages, and any other data
[02:03:47] <yurik>	 for example, i saw name:ro, name:ro_1, name:ro_2, and 3
[02:04:02] <yurik>	 or name:ru:loc:1
[02:04:13] <yurik>	 name:ru:word_stress
[02:04:17] <yurik>	 and many other fun ones
[02:04:32] <yurik>	 the name:ru:word_stress is actually relatively popular - almost 1200
[02:04:53] <yurik>	 so having them as unprocessed allows the community that knows these tags to process them one by one
[02:05:56] <yurik>	 for the wikipedia link - i was hoping to store it in a way that makes cross-referencing wikidata easy.
[02:07:04] <yurik>	 If OSM has wikipedia and wikidata tag, i want to be able to say "give me those osm objects, whose wikipedia tag points to something that does not match wikidata"
[02:07:50] <yurik>	 (wikidata=Q(moscow), wikipedia !== ru:Moscow or en:Moscow ...
[07:31:35] <grill_>	 /6/1
[15:37:32] <revi>	 multichill: got it, I logged it in my todo
[15:37:37] <revi>	 (too lazy to press edit)
[15:41:33] <multichill>	 revi: :-) I have no clue how many actually are paintings
[15:41:46] <revi>	 quick skimming told me most of them seem to be 
[15:41:57] <multichill>	 Sometimes a misplaced categorization makes all sorts things pop up
[15:42:45] <multichill>	 A lot of duplicates I guess revi?
[15:42:53] <revi>	 hmm
[15:43:13] <revi>	 I doubt it
[15:43:23] <multichill>	 https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%88%9C%EC%B2%9C_%EC%84%A0%EC%95%94%EC%82%AC_%EC%84%9C%EB%B6%80%EB%8F%84%EC%95%94_%EA%B0%90%EB%A1%9C%EC%99%95%EB%8F%84 is a person I guess?
[15:43:39] <revi>	 most of them are portraits (guess from the name) so they' re at least paintings
[15:43:47] <revi>	 paintings
[15:44:04] <revi>	 the image in the wikipage is boilterplate "there is no image"
[15:44:12] <revi>	 I dunno why it's  handled such way
[15:45:09] <revi>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12594724 *is* a person though
[15:46:25] <multichill>	 But fun to see some Korean art works come in. We don't have a lot of those I think!
[15:46:41] <revi>	 those aren't properly tagged on Wikidata
[15:46:54] <revi>	 I think we have some old arts, basically for South Korean heritages
[15:47:35] <multichill>	 I did see all sorts of Asian art come in from collections in the US and Australia, but I'm not sure if it contains works from Korea
[15:47:59] <revi>	 National Museum of Korea has released the collection to the public
[15:48:22] <revi>	 but Korea Open Government License sucks and it's doubtful if they are compatible with Commons
[15:48:56] <revi>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:KOGL and kowiki discussions but you don't read 'em
[15:50:17] <multichill>	 revi: Just a bit of clicking around and I found https://www.mmca.go.kr/collections/AjaxCollectionsList.do?&searchFieldGb=%27WFDKO%27,%27WFDPA%27&langCd=2&searchText=&searchProd=&searchCollectDt=&menuId=2010000000&pageIndex=2
[15:50:52] <multichill>	 Throws certificate error for me in FF. Looks like the root is unknown
[15:51:00] <revi>	 yㄷㄴ
[15:51:00] <revi>	 yes
[15:51:02] <revi>	 that must bwe
[15:51:09] <revi>	 because it's signed by KISA Root
[15:51:25] <revi>	 Firefox doesn't trust KISA RootCA, so it's natural it errors on FF
[15:53:08] <revi>	 here it is https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/pGpI2WfX/contents_of_that_link.txt
[15:56:02] <multichill>	 revi: I just added a temp exception
[15:56:33] <revi>	 I once distrusted them from my Windows root store, and I couldn't log in to my univ SSO
[15:56:37] * revi facepalm
[15:57:31] <multichill>	 oops!
[15:57:52] <multichill>	 FF doesn't use the Windows root store, quite anoying sometimes
[15:57:53] <revi>	 and national tax services
[15:57:58] <revi>	 yep
[15:58:59] <revi>	 how often is the entry updated?\
[15:59:02] <multichill>	 I run an internal CA and distributing it to clients with IE is just done by the domain, but FF is a pain to get it imported for every user
[15:59:42] <multichill>	 What entry? The list at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings/Possible_paintings ? Once a day or more often when I give it a nudge
[15:59:46] <revi>	 yep
[15:59:47] <revi>	 oh ok
[15:59:58] <revi>	 just wanted to know how often it's updated
[16:00:53] <multichill>	 Cron runs at 5 UTC
[17:14:21] <sjoerddebruin>	 *sigh* https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q918162&type=revision&diff=483748296&oldid=483748105
[20:01:25] <Ovetganna>	 Happy Victory Day!!!
[20:01:48] <andre__>	 Did Wikidata win?
[20:03:57] <Ovetganna>	 No, the mankind won, 72 years ago. Despite the grief, suffering and colossal sacrifices, the peoples survived and won. Today in my country, thousands and thousands of descendants of people who have committed a great feat, bow their heads in memory of the high price given for our future.
[20:19:22] <multichill>	 Ovetganna: Great, so you're Russian so you can help out with the Russian entries at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings/Possible_paintings ? :-)
[20:26:41] <Ovetganna>	 I am a Belarusian and fluent in Belarusian and Russian. Maybe first help with the Belarusian?
[20:29:02] <Ovetganna>	 The problem is that I do not know the English language very well, so you need to tell me exactly what I should do.
[20:35:00] <Ovetganna>	 multichill: ?
[20:36:10] <Ovetganna>	 This is a list of pictures as I looked. What is there to do?
[20:37:15] <Ovetganna>	 eg, Q13028669 be Беларус, карціна
[20:39:49] <Ovetganna>	 multichill seems to have disappeared somewhere :-(
[20:51:40] <pintoch1>	 Ovetganna: this page suggests to add "instance of" statements on the listed items
[20:52:45] <pintoch1>	 for each item, if it is a painting, it would be useful to have "instance of: painting" (otherwise, instance of something else)
[21:00:57] <Ovetganna>	 Em…
[21:03:50] <Ovetganna>	 Here I am opening Q13028669 be Беларус, карціна, what's next?
[21:07:17] <multichill>	 multichill: Sorry, was helping Pharos with https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles?limit=50&user=Pharos
[21:07:23] <multichill>	 Ovetganna: ^
[21:08:29] <multichill>	 Is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q13028669 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3305213 Ovetganna?
[21:09:21] <Ovetganna>	 This is a picture
[21:11:05] <multichill>	 As in painting?
[21:12:33] <Ovetganna>	 No, this is a portrait
[21:13:24] <multichill>	 A portrait is a genre of painting: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1400853
[21:14:36] <Ovetganna>	 Oh, I feel so stupid :-( But I want to help you.
[21:31:08] <multichill>	 Maybe tomorrow....
[21:35:58] <Ovetganna>	 Good
[21:36:11] <Ovetganna>	 Good night
[22:01:26] <abian>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q29 needs to be semiprotected :S