[13:16:22] <multichill>	 Lydia_WMDE: I'm looking at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:SpecialPages . Looks like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewItem is not on it?
[13:17:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 multichill: indeed. i guess at some point we decided not to have them there. same for newproperty
[13:17:54] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i am not sure why
[13:18:24] <multichill>	 New property is on it
[13:19:25] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ?
[13:19:30] <Lydia_WMDE>	 can't find it searching for property
[13:19:34] <sjoerddebruin>	 It's even in bold.
[13:19:46] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ah
[13:19:47] <multichill>	 "Create a new property"
[13:19:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	 because i don't have the rights with that account
[13:19:56] <sjoerddebruin>	 :P
[13:20:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it is only shown in my other account
[13:20:02] <multichill>	 Yes
[13:20:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 guess that is why it is bold
[13:20:35] <Lydia_WMDE>	 multichill: so yeah i guess we should show it
[13:23:11] <multichill>	 sjoerddebruin: I added paintings that don't have an item yet at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings/Possible_paintings . Any suggestion where I should link for search?
[13:24:32] <sjoerddebruin>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports?
[13:24:41] <multichill>	 Lydia_WMDE: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169456
[13:24:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thx
[13:35:28] <sjoerddebruin>	 Isn't it just weird that you can't put a Q-id in the connect page widget...
[13:36:54] <nikki>	 multichill: I ended up at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2270028 while trying to work out whether we already have an item I can merge https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30933670 into (one of the ones listed on that page you just linked :P) and it seems like some of the sitelinks talk about a series rather than an individual painting but the wikidata item seems to be about one particular painting... maybe you could figure out what to do there?
[13:38:53] <multichill>	 nikki: I'll have a look. That happens all the time....
[13:39:07] <multichill>	 Take for example https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q724377
[13:39:36] <multichill>	 I'll untangle it
[13:40:07] <multichill>	 I usually tag them like https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2270028&type=revision&diff=511748975&oldid=488860573 to figure out later
[13:40:51] <multichill>	 So it's 12 paintings according to the French article. Fun!
[13:49:38] <nikki>	 thanks :)
[14:09:04] <multichill>	 Someone pointed out http://www.mappingpaintings.org/maps/europa . We could probably do this with the query engine too
[14:18:56] <Platonides>	 copies of the same painting?
[14:20:51] <Platonides>	 hmm, the places this has been at different times
[14:21:26] <Platonides>	 some arrows would help
[18:49:58] <sjoerddebruin>	 Loving that references spike though https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-datamodel-references?refresh=30m&panelId=7&fullscreen&orgId=1&from=now-1y&to=now
[18:51:44] <WikidataFacts>	 apparently that snak consists of “stated in” + “retrieved” references – are those usually used together?
[18:51:51] <WikidataFacts>	 s/that snak/those references
[18:52:08] <sjoerddebruin>	 Mostly yeah
[18:52:26] <WikidataFacts>	 I thought “retrieved” was for “reference URL” which you typically wouldn’t use with “stated in”
[18:52:58] <sjoerddebruin>	 You can also point to a item about a book for example.
[18:54:13] <WikidataFacts>	 I don’t understand what you mean – “retrieved” doesn’t make sense for books
[18:55:13] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh, seems like it's only talking about online sources indeed.
[18:55:39] <sjoerddebruin>	 On the Dutch Wikipedia, we mostly use the same sentence for when you have used the source...
[18:56:23] <WikidataFacts>	 oh, okay
[19:39:24] <nikki>	 WikidataFacts: I've used "stated in" along with an id property a bunch of times for online dbs
[19:39:35] <nikki>	 I like it more than reference url because people have a habit of changing url schemes and breaking the old urls even if the db itself hasn't changed >_<
[19:40:05] <nikki>	 and it's more readable
[19:45:00] <sjoerddebruin>	 I do the same.