[00:17:05] Hello [00:18:07] What is the database that wikidata uses to implement SPARQL? [00:30:37] sec^nd: Blazegraph [02:47:49] SMalyshev, around? [03:57:14] Can I programatically add data to wikidata? For example Books with titles and ISBN numbers from library MARC records and other datasets. [04:01:49] sec^nd: it depends... there are tools that let you do this but it's generally recommended that you have a plan for using and maintaining the data [04:02:18] What we want to avoid are large, unmaintained datasets [10:15:10] "Until Wikidata can give me a list of all movies shot in the 60s in Spain, in which a black female horse is stolen by a left-handed actor playing a Portuguese orphan, directed by a colorblind German who liked sailing, and written by a dog-owning women from Helsinki, we have more work to do." — Tobias1984 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Fnielsen [11:03:09] DanielK_WMDE: another thing I just thought of, the json dumps and special:entitydata don't include en-gb data unless you explicitly add terms in en-gb, so that's another thing which encourages people to add identical data for variants [11:03:42] (yeah, they could reimplement a fallback themselves, but it makes it look like a gap which we expect someone to fill) [11:04:20] I know the mediawiki api can do a fallback thing (like https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&ids=Q129003&languages=en-gb&languagefallback=), I think it'd make sense to do that automatically for things where we only expect terms when they're different [11:06:13] is there a preferred Phabricator issue to use, when reporting suggestions for the language fallback? [11:12:04] I imagine you should just make a new one for each separate problem [11:12:10] I don't think there's any tracking ticket or anything [12:04:21] nikki: the problem is: if we do this per default always, we generate a TON of bloat that nearly nobody uses. [12:04:32] If we make it optional, it's not discovered, and doesn't solve the problem [12:04:55] (automatic descriptions would have the same problem) [12:08:09] that bloat will get there sooner or later, either the software does it automatically or users will run bots/tools to add it... at least if it's done automatically it will update automatically too [12:08:22] and won't require tons of bots editing constantly [12:08:57] * nikki thinks of the time there was a single character mistake in a million descriptions [16:33:09] multichill: Thanks, for some reason I was close to the answer but I had found something that suggested "xsd:nonNegativeInteger" was the thing to cast to. [17:01:03] hawke: int() works I think [17:12:39] PROBLEM - puppet last run on wdqs2002 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [17:12:39] PROBLEM - puppet last run on wdqs2001 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [17:12:49] PROBLEM - puppet last run on wdqs2003 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [17:18:39] RECOVERY - puppet last run on wdqs2002 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 52 seconds ago with 0 failures [17:18:39] RECOVERY - puppet last run on wdqs2001 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 53 seconds ago with 0 failures [17:18:49] RECOVERY - puppet last run on wdqs2003 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures [17:21:24] multichill: for now I'm using xsd:integer(?something) [17:27:06] Are there any guidelines/suggestions/etc. for when an item should be split into two items? [17:27:33] e.g. a steam locomotive turned into a stationary steam engine. [17:29:31] or when one company is succeeded by another with a similar name [17:57:55] Jonas_WMDE, hi, do you know if anyone is actually using IE11 when accessing WDQS? It would be great to look at the logs - otherwise we would end up supporting something that noone actually use [17:59:16] Lucas_WMDE, i think i fixed both of your concerns [18:02:32] yurik yes we have people complaining if IE11 is not working [18:03:35] sigh... oh well. I would still run the log check to know the userbase better, but its a good feedback. Do you want to add Babel to grunt? [18:10:54] Jonas_WMDE, ^? [18:11:09] or should i do it? [18:12:23] i haven't really looked at your build system yet [18:12:33] yurik we even have IE5 in the logs :) [18:12:53] I am on holiday :) [18:13:05] hehe, what are you doing in IRC then :)