[00:01:12] Found it: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Data_type#Calculated_property [00:54:24] I am having trouble editing the choices for site links on a 3rd party wiki. Can someone tell me where to look? [01:07:18] I would like to add Wiktionary and remove wikivoyage etc. [01:08:36] I hope it's not rude to use !admin (yikes) [01:17:00] Sorry about that [01:17:39] !admin [01:21:28] Can someone help with editing site links on a third party wiki? [01:28:22] aquatiki: you can not add wiktionary to wikidata items yet [01:31:07] I just meant, as a link at the bottom of the item, one of the groups [01:31:39] like wikibase-sitelinks-wikisource [01:32:07] [[:wikt:en:Wiktionary:Wikidata]] [01:32:07] 10[1] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/:wikt:en:Wiktionary:Wikidata [01:33:40] you are referring to sitelinks aren't you? [01:33:55] links to wikipedia, commons, wikinews ... [01:34:32] yes. On a third party wiki (my own) [01:35:53] ok now i got it [01:35:59] which wiki? [01:36:13] http://danayo.conlang.org/tw/index.php?title=Item:Q4 [01:37:13] the formal way to do this is to propose a new property: [[Wikidata:Property proposal]] [01:37:13] 10[2] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal [01:38:10] but i think your request will be denied, sry [01:38:47] There must be a way to edit the groups at the bottom. Wikidata's groups are different than mine (out of the box) [01:39:05] what do you mean with "groups"? [01:39:11] do you mean properties? [01:39:20] [[Wikidata:Property]] [01:39:20] 10[3] 1010https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Properties - Redirección desde 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property?redirect=no [01:39:32] Scroll all the way down on mine vs theirs https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10000 [01:40:00] Their groups have names. They have Wikibooks, Wikiversity, etc. [01:40:41] ok, yes you mean labels [01:40:54] sry [01:40:57] sitelinks [01:41:35] sitelinks on wikdata are those of sisterprojects [01:41:41] [[Category:Sister_projects]] [01:41:42] 10[4] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Category:Sister_projects [01:41:56] and they are limited to wikimedia projects [01:42:15] OK. Wiktionary is a wikimedia project [01:42:24] right [01:42:31] [[Wikidata:Sister_projects]] [01:42:31] 10[5] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Sister_projects [01:42:39] this gives you an overview [01:43:41] How can I change what are the listed sister projects on my wiki? [01:44:26] sry i'm not such familiar with mediawiki, I'm running the old wikiwikiweb on my server [01:45:56] i'm sure there will be someone at #mediawiki who knows [01:46:26] OK. Next question: Importing items? [01:46:32] is it possible? [01:50:12] from wikidata to your wiki? [01:50:50] yes [01:51:27] dunnow ask at #mediawiki [01:52:38] OK. Last question. Do I have to learn Lua to be able to run queries against my own data, own my own wiki [01:52:39] ? [01:53:01] for queries use sparql [01:53:33] Isn't that from a wholly external source? What I just want to know all my pages that have property:P=x? [01:54:04] you'ld need lua for modules in order to visualize data, e.g. creating tables with items an their property values [01:55:17] Thanks a bunch! Time to go learn a programming language [01:55:59] start with assembler :) [01:56:31] this could be usefule for you: https://tools.wmflabs.org/hay/directory/#/search/wikidata [01:57:13] i got go bye [01:57:15] I used MASM back in the day... [01:58:21] thanks [10:34:21] I have a query with layers. Can I specify the colors used for each layer? [10:35:03] Her is the query I am working with http://tinyurl.com/y7ftld9h [10:36:11] I woul like to use red, orange yellow and green instead of the automatic ones.. [11:10:14] AFAIK not yet. [11:11:02] Oh, it is. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139244 [11:13:25] Need coffee, it isn't. :/ [11:36:45] sjoerddebruin: Yeah, I think that is the fix for not showing everything in the same color [12:39:13] hi Chat - I have an issue using pybotwiki, more specifically with "claim.addSources". Anyone around who could help? [12:39:28] *pywikibot [13:15:29] hello, what's the policy on people adding themself in Wikidata but in a kind of transparent manner? https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q41544473&action=history [14:50:22] maxlath: this one is not notable [14:53:56] Tozibb: Still need a hand? [14:54:04] sjoerddebruin: What a mess with the Freaky guy.... [14:54:24] multichill: indeed, quickstatements 2 is a lot harder to revert [15:02:22] multichill: working on beer now, input on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Talk:Q131734 is nice. Just something to reach consensus. [15:14:10] sjoerddebruin: Sounds like the monastery problem, just a bit less horrible [15:14:27] The same situation applies for video game developer. [15:14:35] Museum too [15:14:37] Church [15:14:53] Basically everything where two concepts are combined [15:15:02] Sportclubs [15:15:26] Be pragmatic or you'll go insane ;-) [15:15:29] :P [15:15:41] Rijksmuseum was split up at some point [15:15:50] Into the organization part and the different buildings [15:35:41] @multichill: yes, that would be nice [15:38:25] multichill: I am trying to add claim sources to my bot, following the examples found here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Creating_a_bot#Example_9:_Add_a_source [15:39:24] however I get the error: nostatement: The "statement" parameter must be set. [help:See https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php for API usage. Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes.] [15:40:12] multichill: adding the claim without sources works fine i.e. my bot does have the necessary permissions [15:45:00] multichill: using the latest version of pywikibot [15:47:38] Tozibb: No, that should be fine [15:47:45] Are you adding the source to the claim you just added? [15:49:06] multichill: no, first I add the sources to the claim, then I add the claim to the item - wrong order? [15:50:20] Yeah, add the claim to the item first and in the second edit add the sources [15:50:30] ok, thanks - will try [15:50:45] See for example https://github.com/multichill/toollabs/blob/master/bot/wikidata/rkdartists_importer.py#L555 [16:00:56] multichill: it works! Thanks a lot! [16:01:56] multichill: Do you also know thow to set a claim as "preferred"? [17:08:18] Tozibb: can I ask you first, why? :) [18:02:08] sjoerddebruin: sure - I am writing a bot (see discussion/permission request here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/Alexabot#Alexabot) that will generate claims [18:02:44] Ah, and you want to prefer the most updated value? [18:02:44] sjoerddebruin: sure - I am writing a bot (see discussion/permission request here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/Alexabot#Alexabot) that will generate claims [18:03:50] sjoerddebruin: over time there will be many claims, however the most recent one should be marked as preferred...only if it makes sense, of course [18:04:04] Yeah, that's a good use case of prefered. [18:05:21] sjoerddebruin: do you know how to add the prefered marker using pywikibot? [18:06:22] No, but I was just curious about the use case :| [18:06:42] sjoerddebruin: :D [18:06:58] sjoerddebruin: but good to know that it makes sense :)